Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

Hi Prannoy, On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Prannoy Pilligundla prannoy.b...@gmail.com wrote: I had a look at some recent posts on the Stack exchange and in LuaTex there is no package for LaTex to directly produce a XML.This is what we had expected but i still had some hope. So,the only

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

Hi Prannoy, On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Prannoy Pilligundla wrote: > I had a look at some recent posts on the Stack exchange and in LuaTex > there is no package for LaTex to directly produce a XML.This is what we had > expected but i still had some hope. So,the

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

Rob Oakes lyx-de...@oak-tree.us writes: Dear Developers, I've been following this conversation from the shadows, but I had one thought that they be relevant. I think everyone agrees that we want to avoid reimplementing the internal logic of a LyX document. While thinking about what might

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On 02/27/2014 03:53 PM, stefano franchi wrote: BTW, I guess this project assumes we start from Lyx 2.1? Am I right? Yes. It will surely be out by the time GSOC starts. rh

Re: About XML LyX file format [was: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats]

On 02/27/2014 03:58 PM, Georg Baum wrote: Richard Heck wrote: On 02/27/2014 11:27 AM, Alex Vergara Gil wrote: I´m a LyX enthusiast and I can see how great this software is because I have used it for 5 years by now. I´ve always asked in this list for a static target lyx format that should be

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On 02/27/2014 04:03 PM, Georg Baum wrote: Richard Heck wrote: Some of this stuff will have to be exported as comments that we can reparse on import. I believe that is already done with some math stuff in TeX export. Really? Do you have an example? I always thought LyX math is 100% equivalent

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On 02/28/2014 02:43 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Am Donnerstag 27 Februar 2014, 12:29:36 schrieb stefano franchi: - Bibliography support with suitable styles is a must. This feature is as crucial to someone working in the Humanities, as math support is for someone working in the sciences.

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On 02/28/2014 05:35 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote: Rob Oakes lyx-de...@oak-tree.us writes: Dear Developers, I've been following this conversation from the shadows, but I had one thought that they be relevant. I think everyone agrees that we want to avoid reimplementing the internal logic of a LyX

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org writes: On 02/28/2014 05:35 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote: Rob Oakes lyx-de...@oak-tree.us writes: Dear Developers, I've been following this conversation from the shadows, but I had one thought that they be relevant. I think everyone agrees that we want to avoid

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

Richard Heck wrote: Here, I think it's especially helpful to distinguish round trip conversion, which would be used during collaboration, from final export for publication. I take it that in the former case we just need to make sure not to lose bibliographic information. Only in the latter

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote: Richard Heck wrote: Here, I think it's especially helpful to distinguish round trip conversion, which would be used during collaboration, from final export for publication. I take it that in the former case we just need

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On 02/28/2014 10:56 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Richard Heck wrote: Here, I think it's especially helpful to distinguish round trip conversion, which would be used during collaboration, from final export for publication. I take it that in the former case we just need to make sure not to lose

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On 02/28/2014 11:07 AM, stefano franchi wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote: Richard Heck wrote: Here, I think it's especially helpful to distinguish round trip conversion, which would be used during collaboration, from final export for publication. I

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

PS For import, what about modfying writer2latex? Richard

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

stefano franchi wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de wrote: I assume that in LyX, there is an API which could be used to convert *independent* from the file format? I don't assume they are exposed outside LyX so that they can be accessed from e.g.

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

Richard Heck wrote: I don't have experience with biblatex. Isn't there some intermediate file we could parse? No. The bbl file consists of rather complex LaTeX code, which is then interpreted by LaTeX on the output route based on the bibliography, citation format and language style files. I

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org writes: On 02/28/2014 02:43 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Am Donnerstag 27 Februar 2014, 12:29:36 schrieb stefano franchi: - Bibliography support with suitable styles is a must. This feature is as crucial to someone working in the Humanities, as math support is

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de wrote: Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org writes: On 02/28/2014 02:43 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Am Donnerstag 27 Februar 2014, 12:29:36 schrieb stefano franchi: - Bibliography support with suitable styles is a must. This feature is

Re: About XML LyX file format [was: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats]

Alex Vergara Gil wrote: Do you mean a native LyX file format which would be the primary format, or an auxiliary format for interfacing with external tools? I mean xml as primary format. Well, I wanted to know what Richard meant, but your opinion is welcome as well;-) If you have xml as

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

Rob Oakes writes: > Dear Developers, > > I've been following this conversation from the shadows, but I had one > thought that they be relevant. > > I think everyone agrees that we want to avoid reimplementing the > internal logic of a LyX document. While thinking about

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On 02/27/2014 03:53 PM, stefano franchi wrote: BTW, I guess this project assumes we start from Lyx 2.1? Am I right? Yes. It will surely be out by the time GSOC starts. rh

Re: About XML LyX file format [was: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats]

On 02/27/2014 03:58 PM, Georg Baum wrote: Richard Heck wrote: On 02/27/2014 11:27 AM, Alex Vergara Gil wrote: I´m a LyX enthusiast and I can see how great this software is because I have used it for 5 years by now. I´ve always asked in this list for a static target lyx format that should be

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On 02/27/2014 04:03 PM, Georg Baum wrote: Richard Heck wrote: Some of this stuff will have to be exported as comments that we can reparse on import. I believe that is already done with some math stuff in TeX export. Really? Do you have an example? I always thought LyX math is 100% equivalent

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On 02/28/2014 02:43 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Am Donnerstag 27 Februar 2014, 12:29:36 schrieb stefano franchi: - Bibliography support with suitable styles is a must. This feature is as crucial to someone working in the Humanities, as math support is for someone working in the sciences.

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On 02/28/2014 05:35 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote: Rob Oakes writes: Dear Developers, I've been following this conversation from the shadows, but I had one thought that they be relevant. I think everyone agrees that we want to avoid reimplementing the internal logic of a

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

Richard Heck writes: > On 02/28/2014 05:35 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote: >> Rob Oakes writes: >> >>> Dear Developers, >>> >>> I've been following this conversation from the shadows, but I had one >>> thought that they be relevant. >>> >>> I think everyone

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

Richard Heck wrote: > Here, I think it's especially helpful to distinguish "round trip" > conversion, which would be used during collaboration, from final export > for publication. I take it that in the former case we just need to make > sure not to lose bibliographic information. Only in the

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Richard Heck wrote: >> Here, I think it's especially helpful to distinguish "round trip" >> conversion, which would be used during collaboration, from final export >> for publication. I take it that in the former case we

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On 02/28/2014 10:56 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Richard Heck wrote: Here, I think it's especially helpful to distinguish "round trip" conversion, which would be used during collaboration, from final export for publication. I take it that in the former case we just need to make sure not to

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On 02/28/2014 11:07 AM, stefano franchi wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Richard Heck wrote: Here, I think it's especially helpful to distinguish "round trip" conversion, which would be used during collaboration, from final export for

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

PS For import, what about modfying writer2latex? Richard

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

stefano franchi wrote: > On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote: > > I assume that in LyX, there is an API which could be used to convert > > *independent* from > > the file format? I don't assume they are exposed outside LyX so that > > they can be accessed from

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

Richard Heck wrote: > I don't have experience with biblatex. Isn't there some intermediate > file we could parse? No. The bbl file consists of rather complex LaTeX code, which is then interpreted by LaTeX on the output route based on the bibliography, citation format and language style files.

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

Richard Heck writes: > On 02/28/2014 02:43 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: >> Am Donnerstag 27 Februar 2014, 12:29:36 schrieb stefano franchi: >>> - Bibliography support with suitable styles is a must. This feature >>> is as crucial to someone working in the Humanities, as math

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote: > Richard Heck writes: > >> On 02/28/2014 02:43 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: >>> Am Donnerstag 27 Februar 2014, 12:29:36 schrieb stefano franchi: - Bibliography support with suitable styles is a must.

Re: About XML LyX file format [was: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats]

Alex Vergara Gil wrote: >> Do you mean a native LyX file format which would be the primary format, >> or an auxiliary format for interfacing with external tools? > > I mean xml as primary format. Well, I wanted to know what Richard meant, but your opinion is welcome as well;-) > If you have

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

I have been following the discussion going on in this thread and have been exploring Lyx at the same time.I understood how to integrate python scripts into the editor and all but i have a some queries regarding the round trip conversion Since we have something like eLyxer which parses the Lyx

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

Prannoy Pilligundla prannoy.b...@gmail.com writes: I have been following the discussion going on in this thread and have been exploring Lyx at the same time.I understood how to integrate python scripts into the editor and all but i have a some queries regarding the round trip conversion

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

Georg Baum wrote: stefano franchi wrote: Also, I had a quick look at the equation editor for LibreOffice (the LO's Math component accessible from InsertObjectFormula). It seems incredibly primitive. But perhaps it's just the interface that gives that impression. Before I spend some

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

Wilfried wrote: Georg Baum wrote: stefano franchi wrote: Also, I had a quick look at the equation editor for LibreOffice (the LO's Math component accessible from InsertObjectFormula). It seems incredibly primitive. But perhaps it's just the interface that gives that

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On 02/27/2014 03:44 AM, Prannoy Pilligundla wrote: I also had a look at pandoc and tex4ht but as they are converters from Latex,i feel we should only consider them as secondary options. I believe pandoc is pretty modular. One would only need to add LyX to the list of formats that it handles

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org writes: On 02/27/2014 03:44 AM, Prannoy Pilligundla wrote: I also had a look at pandoc and tex4ht but as they are converters from Latex,i feel we should only consider them as secondary options. I believe pandoc is pretty modular. One would only need to add LyX to

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Wilfried wh...@gmx.de wrote: Wilfried wrote: Georg Baum wrote: stefano franchi wrote: AOO and LO help contain a comprehensive list of the formula sytax: in Help - Formulas - General Information - Math Features there is a hyperlink pointing to the

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: On 02/27/2014 03:44 AM, Prannoy Pilligundla wrote: I also had a look at pandoc and tex4ht but as they are converters from Latex,i feel we should only consider them as secondary options. I believe pandoc is pretty modular.

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de wrote: I assume that in LyX, there is an API which could be used to convert *independent* from the file format? I don't assume they are exposed outside LyX so that they can be accessed from e.g. python? I don't thinks that's

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: On 02/27/2014 03:44 AM, Prannoy Pilligundla wrote: I also had a look at pandoc and tex4ht but as they are converters from Latex,i feel we should only consider them as secondary options. I believe pandoc is pretty modular.

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: The downside to any python-based approach, though, is that the LyX format is a moving target. The script would need to be updated with every syntax change. Or could just rely on lyx2lyx. Scott

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:23 AM, stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: On 02/27/2014 03:44 AM, Prannoy Pilligundla wrote: I also had a look at pandoc and tex4ht but as they are converters from Latex,i feel we

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:39 AM, stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote: Correction after morning coffee: The needed modules would be: 1. a docx|odt reader module 2. (possibly) a LyX reader module No writer module would be needed, as pandoc has an extensive collection already

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:39 AM, stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:23 AM, stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: On 02/27/2014 03:44 AM, Prannoy Pilligundla wrote: I also

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:39 AM, stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote: Correction after morning coffee: The needed modules would be: 1. a docx|odt reader module 2. (possibly) a LyX reader module No

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

ᐧ stefano franchi wrote: Well, pandoc handles LaTex already (although not very successfully in my tests. Management of citation, for instance leaves a lot to be desired), so all it's missing is a docx reader to make the back-conversion possible. That is, I understand pandoc to work

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

stefano franchi wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Georg Baum georg.b...@post.rwth-aachen.de wrote: I'd use the AMS math test document testmath.tex, this one does not contain too much fancy text stuff. I just fixed some obvious bugs in the LyX math parser. testmath.tex looks very

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Prannoy Pilligundla prannoy.b...@gmail.com wrote: ᐧ stefano franchi wrote: Well, pandoc handles LaTex already (although not very successfully in my tests. Management of citation, for instance leaves a lot to be desired), so all it's missing is a docx

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

Rainer M Krug wrote: Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org writes: The downside to any python-based approach, though, is that the LyX format is a moving target. The script would need to be updated with every syntax change. Not necessarily - one could use lyx2lyx to convert to a fixed format.

About XML LyX file format [was: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats]

The downside to any python-based approach, though, is that the LyX format is a moving target. The script would need to be updated with every syntax change. I assume this problem would persist with a pandoc approach, isn't it? The Lyx reader module would still be format-dependent, unless we

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

Dear Developers, I've been following this conversation from the shadows, but I had one thought that they be relevant. I think everyone agrees that we want to avoid reimplementing the internal logic of a LyX document. While thinking about what might be the best way to implement a converter, it

Re: About XML LyX file format [was: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats]

On 02/27/2014 11:27 AM, Alex Vergara Gil wrote: The downside to any python-based approach, though, is that the LyX format is a moving target. The script would need to be updated with every syntax change. I assume this problem would persist with a pandoc approach, isn't it? The Lyx reader

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On 02/27/2014 11:38 AM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: The downside to any python-based approach, though, is that the LyX format is a moving target. The script would need to be updated with every syntax change. Or could just rely on

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On 02/27/2014 01:47 PM, Georg Baum wrote: Rainer M Krug wrote: I assume that in LyX, there is an API which could be used to convert *independent* from the file format? The closest to this are probably the different writing methods of each individual inset, e.g. Inset::latex(), Inset::xhtml()

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On 02/27/2014 11:08 AM, stefano franchi wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: On 02/27/2014 03:44 AM, Prannoy Pilligundla wrote: I also had a look at pandoc and tex4ht but as they are converters from Latex,i feel we should only consider them as secondary

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On 02/27/2014 11:23 AM, stefano franchi wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: On 02/27/2014 03:44 AM, Prannoy Pilligundla wrote: I also had a look at pandoc and tex4ht but as they are converters from Latex,i feel we should only consider them as secondary

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On 02/27/2014 01:29 PM, stefano franchi wrote: I'd like to hear other people's opinions on this. Here is what I think: - Bibliography support with suitable styles is a must. This feature is as crucial to someone working in the Humanities, as math support is for someone working in the

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: On 02/27/2014 01:29 PM, stefano franchi wrote: I'd like to hear other people's opinions on this. Here is what I think: - Bibliography support with suitable styles is a must. This feature is as crucial to someone working in

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

Georg Baum wrote: We still need to decide what part of math should be supported for the round trip, but for this decision you can assume that all amsmath commands work in LyX (if not I'll fix them), and only concentrate on what is problematic in docx/odt and what is needed. Proof: With my

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Georg Baum georg.b...@post.rwth-aachen.de wrote: Georg Baum wrote: We still need to decide what part of math should be supported for the round trip, but for this decision you can assume that all amsmath commands work in LyX (if not I'll fix them), and only

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On 02/27/2014 03:47 PM, stefano franchi wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: On 02/27/2014 01:29 PM, stefano franchi wrote: I'd like to hear other people's opinions on this. Here is what I think: - Bibliography support with suitable styles is a must. This

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: On 02/27/2014 03:47 PM, stefano franchi wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: On 02/27/2014 01:29 PM, stefano franchi wrote: I'd like to hear other people's opinions on this. Here is

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:53 PM, stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: On 02/27/2014 03:47 PM, stefano franchi wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: On 02/27/2014 01:29 PM,

Re: About XML LyX file format [was: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats]

Richard Heck wrote: On 02/27/2014 11:27 AM, Alex Vergara Gil wrote: I´m a LyX enthusiast and I can see how great this software is because I have used it for 5 years by now. I´ve always asked in this list for a static target lyx format that should be an intrinsic xml format, which can evolve

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Rob Oakes lyx-de...@oak-tree.us wrote: As I've followed the pandoc conversation, I've been concerned about the introduction of another dependency. If the import/export tools can be kept to LyX and some processing script, that seems easier to maintain than a

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

stefano franchi wrote: The mentioned fixes are fixes to tex2lyx? No, the math parser in LyX (2.1 of course). tex2lyx did not need any fixes regarding the math. Georg

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

Richard Heck wrote: Some of this stuff will have to be exported as comments that we can reparse on import. I believe that is already done with some math stuff in TeX export. Really? Do you have an example? I always thought LyX math is 100% equivalent to LaTeX math (with the exception of

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: On 02/27/2014 01:29 PM, stefano franchi wrote: I'd like to hear other people's opinions on this. Here is what I think: - Bibliography support with suitable styles is a must. This feature is as crucial to someone working

Re: About XML LyX file format [was: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats]

Do you mean a native LyX file format which would be the primary format, or an auxiliary format for interfacing with external tools? I mean xml as primary format. The native file format would need to be non-static and would need format changes as LyX develops (so would face similar problems to

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

Am Donnerstag 27 Februar 2014, 12:29:36 schrieb stefano franchi: - Bibliography support with suitable styles is a must. This feature is as crucial to someone working in the Humanities, as math support is for someone working in the sciences. With the difference that scientists can often avoid

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

I have been following the discussion going on in this thread and have been exploring Lyx at the same time.I understood how to integrate python scripts into the editor and all but i have a some queries regarding the round trip conversion Since we have something like eLyxer which parses the Lyx

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

Prannoy Pilligundla writes: > I have been following the discussion going on in this thread and have been > exploring Lyx at the same time.I understood how to integrate python scripts > into the editor and all but i have a some queries regarding the round trip > conversion

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

Georg Baum wrote: > stefano franchi wrote: > > > Also, I had a quick look at the equation editor for LibreOffice (the > > LO's Math component accessible from Insert>>Object>>Formula). It seems > > incredibly primitive. But perhaps it's just the interface that gives > > that impression. Before I

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

Wilfried wrote: > Georg Baum wrote: > > > stefano franchi wrote: > > > > > Also, I had a quick look at the equation editor for LibreOffice (the > > > LO's Math component accessible from Insert>>Object>>Formula). It seems > > > incredibly primitive. But perhaps it's just the interface that gives

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On 02/27/2014 03:44 AM, Prannoy Pilligundla wrote: I also had a look at pandoc and tex4ht but as they are converters from Latex,i feel we should only consider them as secondary options. I believe pandoc is pretty modular. One would only need to add LyX to the list of formats that it handles

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

Richard Heck writes: > On 02/27/2014 03:44 AM, Prannoy Pilligundla wrote: >> >> I also had a look at pandoc and tex4ht but as they are converters >> from Latex,i feel we should only consider them as secondary options. > > I believe pandoc is pretty modular. One would only need to

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Wilfried wrote: > Wilfried wrote: > >> Georg Baum wrote: >> >> > stefano franchi wrote: >> > >> AOO and LO help contain a comprehensive list of the formula sytax: >> in Help - Formulas - General Information - Math Features >> there is a hyperlink

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Richard Heck wrote: > On 02/27/2014 03:44 AM, Prannoy Pilligundla wrote: >> >> >> I also had a look at pandoc and tex4ht but as they are converters from >> Latex,i feel we should only consider them as secondary options. > > > I believe pandoc is

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote: > I assume that in LyX, there is an API which could be used to convert > *independent* from > the file format? I don't assume they are exposed outside LyX so that > they can be accessed from e.g. python? I don't thinks

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Richard Heck wrote: > On 02/27/2014 03:44 AM, Prannoy Pilligundla wrote: >> >> >> I also had a look at pandoc and tex4ht but as they are converters from >> Latex,i feel we should only consider them as secondary options. > > > I believe pandoc is

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Richard Heck wrote: > The downside to any python-based approach, though, is that the LyX format is > a moving target. The script would need to be updated with every syntax > change. Or could just rely on lyx2lyx. Scott

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:23 AM, stefano franchi wrote: > On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Richard Heck wrote: >> On 02/27/2014 03:44 AM, Prannoy Pilligundla wrote: >>> >>> >>> I also had a look at pandoc and tex4ht but as they are converters from >>>

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:39 AM, stefano franchi wrote: > Correction after morning coffee: > > The needed modules would be: > > 1. a docx|odt reader module > 2. (possibly) a LyX reader module > > No writer module would be needed, as pandoc has an extensive collection

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:39 AM, stefano franchi wrote: > On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:23 AM, stefano franchi > wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Richard Heck wrote: >>> On 02/27/2014 03:44 AM, Prannoy Pilligundla

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: > On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:39 AM, stefano franchi > wrote: > >> Correction after morning coffee: >> >> The needed modules would be: >> >> 1. a docx|odt reader module >> 2. (possibly) a LyX

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

ᐧ stefano franchi wrote: > > > Well, pandoc handles LaTex already (although not very successfully in > > my tests. Management of citation, for instance leaves a lot to be > > desired), so all it's missing is a docx "reader" to make the > > back-conversion possible. > > > > That is, I understand

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

stefano franchi wrote: > On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Georg Baum > wrote: >> >> I'd use the AMS math test document testmath.tex, this one does not >> contain too much fancy text stuff. I just fixed some obvious bugs in the >> LyX math parser. > > testmath.tex

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Prannoy Pilligundla < prannoy.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > ᐧ > > stefano franchi wrote: >> >> > Well, pandoc handles LaTex already (although not very successfully in >> > my tests. Management of citation, for instance leaves a lot to be >> > desired), so all it's

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

Rainer M Krug wrote: > Richard Heck writes: > >> The downside to any python-based approach, though, is that the LyX >> format is a moving target. The script would need to be updated with >> every syntax change. Not necessarily - one could use lyx2lyx to convert to a fixed

About XML LyX file format [was: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats]

The downside to any python-based approach, though, is that the LyX format is a moving target. The script would need to be updated with every syntax change. I assume this problem would persist with a pandoc approach, isn't it? The Lyx reader module would still be format-dependent, unless we

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

Dear Developers, I've been following this conversation from the shadows, but I had one thought that they be relevant. I think everyone agrees that we want to avoid reimplementing the internal logic of a LyX document. While thinking about what might be the best way to implement a converter, it

Re: About XML LyX file format [was: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats]

On 02/27/2014 11:27 AM, Alex Vergara Gil wrote: The downside to any python-based approach, though, is that the LyX format is a moving target. The script would need to be updated with every syntax change. I assume this problem would persist with a pandoc approach, isn't it? The Lyx reader

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On 02/27/2014 11:38 AM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Richard Heck wrote: The downside to any python-based approach, though, is that the LyX format is a moving target. The script would need to be updated with every syntax change. Or could just rely

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

On 02/27/2014 01:47 PM, Georg Baum wrote: Rainer M Krug wrote: I assume that in LyX, there is an API which could be used to convert *independent* from the file format? The closest to this are probably the different writing methods of each individual inset, e.g. Inset::latex(), Inset::xhtml()

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