Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-06-01 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 05/31/2018 06:14 PM, Andrew Parsloe wrote: > On 16/05/2018 3:33 p.m., Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: >> I have finally managed to build Windows installers for 2.3.0. They can >> be found here: >> >> http://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/ >> >> Let me emphasize again that >> >> THESE

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-31 Thread Andrew Parsloe
On 16/05/2018 3:33 p.m., Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: I have finally managed to build Windows installers for 2.3.0. They can be found here:     http://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/ Let me emphasize again that     THESE ARE FOR TESTING ONLY I have tested them a little bit myself,

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-22 Thread Jean-Pierre
Le 21 mai 2018 10:38:45 PM Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit : Le 21/05/2018 à 22:36, Jean-Pierre a écrit : All the docs seem to compile all right, but displays of the pdfs fail by lack of a pdf reader :-( Incredible! I use this win10 seldomly, I have a dual boot with a

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-21 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 05/21/2018 04:38 PM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Le 21/05/2018 à 22:36, Jean-Pierre a écrit : >> All the docs seem to compile all right, but displays of the pdfs fail >> by lack of a pdf reader :-( Incredible! >> I use this win10 seldomly, I have a dual boot with a Debian on this >> machine,

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-21 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 21/05/2018 à 22:36, Jean-Pierre a écrit : All the docs seem to compile all right, but displays of the pdfs fail by lack of a pdf reader :-( Incredible! I use this win10 seldomly, I have a dual boot with a Debian on this machine, that's why it is quite raw. I guess I would have installed a

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-21 Thread Jean-Pierre
Le 19 mai 2018 10:59:21 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit There is also ProTeXt (https://www.tug.org/protext/), which seems to be a complete MikTeX distribution, weighing 2.6G. I used Protext 12 years ago as a tool to install MiKTeX (it's distributed by TUG, but it contains

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-19 Thread Andrew Parsloe
On 19/05/2018 8:59 p.m., Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Le 16/05/2018 à 19:48, Richard Kimberly Heck a écrit : It seems to me that there are two kinds of issues. One is what (if anything) we install, and the other is what happens after that. I think the "auto-install packages" feature of MiKTeX is

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-19 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 16/05/2018 à 19:48, Richard Kimberly Heck a écrit : It seems to me that there are two kinds of issues. One is what (if anything) we install, and the other is what happens after that. I think the "auto-install packages" feature of MiKTeX is great for people who don't want to get their hands

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-18 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Donnerstag, den 17.05.2018, 19:14 -0400 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck: > Is there a concrete proposal to be made here? I.e., that the 'bundle' > installer should install TeXLive? And default to 'medium' (if we can > make it do that)? I can't make a fair judgment, since I really don't know

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-18 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 16/05/2018 à 05:33, Richard Kimberly Heck a écrit : PS Certainly one thing I've learned is that installing LyX with MikTeX takes *forever*, and I've got a fast internet connection. It would be nice to know what packages we need to install to compile the User Guide, etc, and just install

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-18 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 05/18/2018 07:56 AM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: >> Another possibility is to abandon the bundle installer and tell people >> they need to install a TeX distribution (and here are some links) >> before installing LyX. > Maybe the best option initially is it to keep it

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-18 Thread Pavel Sanda
Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: > Another possibility is to abandon the bundle installer and tell people > they need to install a TeX distribution (and here are some links) > before installing LyX. Maybe the best option initially is it to keep it as simple as possible. I am not sure how much

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-17 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 05/17/2018 12:49 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Le 16 mai 2018 23:33:45 GMT+02:00, Richard Kimberly Heck a > écrit : >> Yes, well, now there will be no console messages again, since people >> won't see the console at all. It would be nice if this were something >> one

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-17 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 05/17/2018 03:30 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 16.05.2018, 13:48 -0400 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck: >> It seems to me that there are two kinds of issues. One is what (if >> anything) we install, and the other is what happens after that. I >> think the "auto-install

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-17 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mittwoch, den 16.05.2018, 13:48 -0400 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck: > It seems to me that there are two kinds of issues. One is what (if > anything) we install, and the other is what happens after that. I > think > the "auto-install packages" feature of MiKTeX is great for people who > don't

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-17 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mittwoch, den 16.05.2018, 18:54 +0200 schrieb Pavel Sanda: > Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, den 16.05.2018, 10:09 -0400 schrieb Richard Kimberly > > Heck: > > > The issue is that the basic MiKTeX install gives one very little. > > > Not > > > enough even to compile the Introduction,

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-17 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mittwoch, den 16.05.2018, 20:01 +0200 schrieb Kornel Benko: > > It looks like it's due to my using -DLYX_CONSOLE=FORCE, which was > in the > > xmingw file. > > > > Riki > > > > That's from me I suppose. We had reports about no console-messages > for Windows-lyx. > This was a try...

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-16 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 16 mai 2018 23:33:45 GMT+02:00, Richard Kimberly Heck a écrit : >Yes, well, now there will be no console messages again, since people >won't see the console at all. It would be nice if this were something >one could set at runtime, rather than at compile time. I mentioned

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-16 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 05/16/2018 02:01 PM, Kornel Benko wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, 16. Mai 2018 13:23:52 CEST schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck > : > > > On 05/16/2018 12:30 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > > > > Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: > > > >>> 1. When starting LyX, a command window is presented and

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-16 Thread Pavel Sanda
Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: > It seems to me that there are two kinds of issues. One is what (if > anything) we install, and the other is what happens after that. I think > the "auto-install packages" feature of MiKTeX is great for people who > don't want to get their hands too dirty, and Uwe was

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-16 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Mittwoch, 16. Mai 2018 13:23:52 CEST schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck : > On 05/16/2018 12:30 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > > Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: > >>> 1. When starting LyX, a command window is presented and retained. > >>> Closing the command window closes LyX. > >> I saw

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-16 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 05/16/2018 12:54 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: >> Am Mittwoch, den 16.05.2018, 10:09 -0400 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck: >>> The issue is that the basic MiKTeX install gives one very little. Not >>> enough even to compile the Introduction, largely due to font metric >>>

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-16 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 05/16/2018 12:33 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 15.05.2018, 23:33 -0400 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck: >> I have finally managed to build Windows installers for 2.3.0. > Just for the records, your efforts to get this back on track are highly > appreciated. I hope we can sort

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-16 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 05/16/2018 12:30 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: >>> 1. When starting LyX, a command window is presented and retained. >>> Closing the command window closes LyX. >> I saw this, too, on Windows 10, but did not know it was unusual. I did >> not change anything in the

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-16 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 16.05.2018, 10:09 -0400 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck: > > The issue is that the basic MiKTeX install gives one very little. Not > > enough even to compile the Introduction, largely due to font metric > > files. > > > > > What install choices we have

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-16 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mittwoch, den 16.05.2018, 10:09 -0400 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck: > The issue is that the basic MiKTeX install gives one very little. Not > enough even to compile the Introduction, largely due to font metric > files. > > > What install choices we have with TeXLive? Bundling 4gb of data is >

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-16 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Dienstag, den 15.05.2018, 23:33 -0400 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck: > I have finally managed to build Windows installers for 2.3.0. Just for the records, your efforts to get this back on track are highly appreciated. I hope we can sort out the remaining problems. Jürgen signature.asc

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-16 Thread Pavel Sanda
Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: > > 1. When starting LyX, a command window is presented and retained. > > Closing the command window closes LyX. > > I saw this, too, on Windows 10, but did not know it was unusual. I did > not change anything in the installer that should have affected this. IIRC

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-16 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 05/16/2018 12:58 AM, Andrew Parsloe wrote: > On 16/05/2018 3:33 p.m., Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: >> I have finally managed to build Windows installers for 2.3.0. They can >> be found here: >> >> http://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/ >> >> Let me emphasize again that >> >> THESE

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-16 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 05/16/2018 08:22 AM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > Andrew Parsloe wrote: >> PS Re your PS and *forever*, that's one more reason for treating MiKTeX and >> LyX as distinct programs and not bundling them together. > Or we might consider using TeXLive as default instead of MikTeX if it works > better, now

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-16 Thread Pavel Sanda
Andrew Parsloe wrote: > PS Re your PS and *forever*, that's one more reason for treating MiKTeX and > LyX as distinct programs and not bundling them together. Or we might consider using TeXLive as default instead of MikTeX if it works better, now would be actually proper time to do it... Bundle

Re: Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-15 Thread Andrew Parsloe
On 16/05/2018 3:33 p.m., Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: I have finally managed to build Windows installers for 2.3.0. They can be found here:     http://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/ Let me emphasize again that     THESE ARE FOR TESTING ONLY I have tested them a little bit myself,

Windows Installers: TESTING ONLY

2018-05-15 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
I have finally managed to build Windows installers for 2.3.0. They can be found here:     http://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/ Let me emphasize again that     THESE ARE FOR TESTING ONLY I have tested them a little bit myself, but not a whole lot. They seem to work, basically---I