Re: [rework docs] a new round of asking and proposing - part two: proposals 1-5

2005-03-29 Thread John Levon
On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 11:48:33PM +0200, Uwe St?hr wrote: 1. The last months I teached LyX to some colleagues and they all complained that there is no button in the toolbar for view/update dvi. Therefore I designed a new toolbar with new buttons. It looks like in the attached file

Re: [rework docs] a new round of asking and proposing - part two: proposals 1-5

2005-03-29 Thread John Levon
On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 11:48:33PM +0200, Uwe St?hr wrote: > 1. The last months I teached LyX to some colleagues and they all > complained that there is no button in the toolbar for "view/update dvi". > Therefore I designed a new toolbar with new buttons. It looks like in > the attached file

Re: [rework docs] reasons, plans, questions

2005-01-09 Thread John Levon
On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 08:35:11PM +0100, Uwe St?hr wrote: The UserGuide will also have a short section about needed programs and install issues for the platforms Linux/Unix, Mac and Win. IMO, whilst such docs would be great, the User Guide is the wrong place for it. I'd prefer such stuff

Re: [rework docs] reasons, plans, questions

2005-01-09 Thread John Levon
On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 08:35:11PM +0100, Uwe St?hr wrote: > The UserGuide will also have a short section about needed programs > and install issues for the platforms Linux/Unix, Mac and Win. IMO, whilst such docs would be great, the User Guide is the wrong place for it. I'd prefer such stuff

Re: LyX: questions and comments from a new LyX user

2004-05-16 Thread John Levon
On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 06:48:11PM -0400, Demaree, Loren wrote: encountered during reading and learning by practice in the Introduction, Tutorial, and User's Guide: reference to the Document-Settings apparently intending or not yet reflecting the interface revision to Layout-Document You

Re: LyX: questions and comments from a new LyX user

2004-05-16 Thread John Levon
On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 06:48:11PM -0400, Demaree, Loren wrote: > encountered during reading and learning by practice in the Introduction, > Tutorial, and User's Guide: > > reference to the "Document->Settings" apparently intending or not yet > reflecting the interface revision to

Re: patch for UserGuide.lyx / bug 996

2003-07-20 Thread John Levon
On Sun, Jul 20, 2003 at 11:00:48PM +0200, Christian Ridderstr?m wrote: Ok, since the last mail didn't seem to make it, I'm sending the patch again. Applied in my tree. I can't yet commit until the lyx machines are back up and running. I guess this is one spot I missed the old menu :) thanks

Re: patch for UserGuide.lyx / bug 996

2003-07-20 Thread John Levon
On Sun, Jul 20, 2003 at 11:00:48PM +0200, Christian Ridderstr?m wrote: > Ok, since the last mail didn't seem to make it, I'm sending the patch > again. Applied in my tree. I can't yet commit until the lyx machines are back up and running. I guess this is one spot I missed the old menu :)

Re: FW: LyX 1.2.0, german documentation

2002-09-05 Thread John Levon
On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 02:24:11PM +0200, Lasgouttes, J.M. wrote: I forward to this list a mail from Hartmut Haase who reviewed the UserGuide. Most of his remarks are certainly valid and it would be nice if somebody could update the UserGuide accordingly. I've dealt with most of these (by

Re: FW: LyX 1.2.0, german documentation

2002-09-05 Thread John Levon
On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 02:24:11PM +0200, Lasgouttes, J.M. wrote: > I forward to this list a mail from Hartmut Haase who > reviewed the UserGuide. Most of his remarks are certainly > valid and it would be nice if somebody could update the UserGuide > accordingly. I've dealt with most of these

Re: LyX and figure/table floats

2002-06-05 Thread John Levon
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 02:19:42PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Did you try to set the layout of the (empty) paragraph to 'Caption'? This is the fifth or so user now. Perhaps we should make this change ? regards john -- Do you mean to tell me that The Prince is not the set textbook

Re: LyX and figure/table floats

2002-06-05 Thread John Levon
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 02:19:42PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Did you try to set the layout of the (empty) paragraph to 'Caption'? This is the fifth or so user now. Perhaps we should make this change ? regards john -- "Do you mean to tell me that "The Prince" is not the set

Re: hebrew introduction

2002-05-31 Thread John Levon
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 05:13:23PM +0300, Gady Kozma wrote: Since there were no objections to my Hebrew translation of the introduction, could somebody put it in the CVS? Done, sorry for the delay. We'll need to udpate it to 1.2 format at some point ... john -- Do you mean to tell me

Re: hebrew introduction

2002-05-31 Thread John Levon
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 05:13:23PM +0300, Gady Kozma wrote: > Since there were no objections to my Hebrew translation of the > introduction, could somebody put it in the CVS? Done, sorry for the delay. We'll need to udpate it to 1.2 format at some point ... john -- "Do you mean to tell me

Re: fonts

2002-05-19 Thread John Levon
On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 02:01:11AM +0300, Robin wrote: Is there any reason why my fonts HOWTO isn't the documentation for LyX 1.2pre5? Does it suck or what? It is merely lack of time. I have a bug open on it. Perhaps Mike could have a look at it for general style issues, if there are any, and

Re: fonts

2002-05-19 Thread John Levon
On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 02:01:11AM +0300, Robin wrote: > Is there any reason why my fonts HOWTO isn't the documentation for LyX > 1.2pre5? Does it suck or what? It is merely lack of time. I have a bug open on it. Perhaps Mike could have a look at it for general style issues, if there are any,

Re: Dates for TeX and LaTeX

2002-03-10 Thread John Levon
On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 12:03:38AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nicolas tells me that TeX has been first published in 1978, and LaTeX in 1982, and I agree that there is a big difference with the values in the manuals (1984 and 1985). I've fixed the Knuth date (can I get commit for lyxdocs

Re: Dates for TeX and LaTeX

2002-03-10 Thread John Levon
On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 12:03:38AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Nicolas tells me that TeX has been first published in 1978, and LaTeX in 1982, > and I agree that there is a big difference with the values in the manuals > (1984 and 1985). I've fixed the Knuth date (can I get commit for

Re: forms.h problem fixed!

2002-02-02 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 11:26:07PM -0700, Reed Loefgren wrote: The Missing forms.h issue is a known failure (I missed it when I flew through the source docs.) It appears when one does not have, at least, the kernel header files installed. I had the full kernel source installed but had

Re: forms.h problem fixed!

2002-02-02 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 11:26:07PM -0700, Reed Loefgren wrote: > The "Missing forms.h" issue is a known failure (I missed it when I flew > through the source docs.) It appears when one does not have, at least, > the kernel header files installed. I had the full kernel source > installed but had

Re: Current Status?

2001-11-05 Thread John Levon
On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 10:59:31AM -0500, George De Bruin wrote: You chopped off a major part that I was responding to: oops ;) If, under other toolkits, this dialog is layed out differently, groupings change, or some of the features work differently (say, the margin boxes use spin boxes

Re: Current Status?

2001-11-05 Thread John Levon
On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 10:59:31AM -0500, George De Bruin wrote: > You chopped off a major part that I was responding to: oops ;) > If, under other toolkits, this dialog is layed out differently, groupings > change, or some of the features work differently (say, the margin boxes use > spin

Re: Current Status?

2001-11-02 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 12:34:00PM -0500, George De Bruin wrote: Oooh, is that dependent on different toolkits? (ie QT / GTK+?) Or is it true for the standard xforms interface too? xforms has the option. Qt2 frontend is always modeless unless specifically asked for. I think the vague rule

Re: Current Status?

2001-11-02 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 02:08:03PM -0500, Amir Karger wrote: manual? Hm, I guess so, if the basic way a dialog works is going to be different in the different systems. the problem is the manual whilst describing e.g. bibtex, is going to want to describe how to add to the bibtex databases.

Re: Current Status?

2001-11-02 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 02:18:35PM -0800, Mike Ressler wrote: Aiighh! I smell disaster in the air! Are the xforms/qt2 differences just because qt2 hasn't caught up to the xforms style yet, or are the differences truly permanent? Mostly permanent. The reasoning is simple: it's far easier to

Re: Current Status?

2001-11-02 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 12:34:00PM -0500, George De Bruin wrote: > Oooh, is that dependent on different toolkits? (ie QT / GTK+?) Or is it true > for the standard xforms interface too? xforms has the option. Qt2 frontend is always modeless unless specifically asked for. I think the vague rule

Re: Current Status?

2001-11-02 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 02:08:03PM -0500, Amir Karger wrote: > manual? Hm, I guess so, if the basic way a dialog works is going to be > different in the different systems. the problem is the manual whilst describing e.g. bibtex, is going to want to describe how to add to the bibtex databases.

Re: Current Status?

2001-11-02 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 02:18:35PM -0800, Mike Ressler wrote: > Aiighh! I smell disaster in the air! Are the xforms/qt2 differences just > because qt2 hasn't "caught up" to the xforms style yet, or are the > differences truly permanent? Mostly permanent. The reasoning is simple: it's far

Re: Killing of a BUGS.lyx - The Revenge

2001-10-29 Thread John Levon
On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 05:03:20PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: It is amusing that your new and improved Intro.lyx mentions the defunct BUGS.lyx file. eek - missed that. Fixed - is it OK otherwise ? john -- If the software that a company produces isn't reliable, adding a bunch of

Re: Killing of a BUGS.lyx - The Revenge

2001-10-29 Thread John Levon
On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 05:03:20PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > It is amusing that your new and improved Intro.lyx mentions the > defunct BUGS.lyx file. eek - missed that. Fixed - is it OK otherwise ? john -- "If the software that a company produces isn't reliable, adding a bunch of

Re: I'm still here too + revised docs

2001-09-13 Thread John Levon
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 01:21:24PM -0700, Mike Ressler wrote: and would like people to tear them apart and offer suggestions/ corrections. If they look okay, then the translators should begin The sentence : To create a table, you figured out beforehand how big each column was to be and set

Re: I'm still here too + revised docs

2001-09-13 Thread John Levon
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 01:21:24PM -0700, Mike Ressler wrote: > and would like people to tear them apart and offer suggestions/ > corrections. If they look okay, then the translators should begin The sentence : To create a table, you figured out beforehand how big each column was to be and set

Re: Fonts

2001-09-10 Thread John Levon
On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 06:27:41PM +0300, Robin Turner wrote: Would the doc team be interested in a section on using different fonts to go in Extended features? I have a piece which might be suitable, covering changing the default font (to use fonts not available in the popup), using

Re: Fonts

2001-09-10 Thread John Levon
On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 06:27:41PM +0300, Robin Turner wrote: > Would the doc team be interested in a section on using different fonts to go > in "Extended features"? I have a piece which might be suitable, covering > changing the default font (to use fonts not available in the popup), using

Re: A couple of comments on the new docs

2001-09-04 Thread John Levon
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 10:27:25PM -0400, John Weiss wrote: during kindergarten.) So, DocStyle tends towards the shrill, because the volunteers wouldn't bother to listen to my polite requests. Sad but true. I don't doubt that was true then, but I don't think we should a priori assume new

Re: A couple of comments on the new docs

2001-09-04 Thread John Levon
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 10:27:25PM -0400, John Weiss wrote: > during kindergarten.) So, "DocStyle" tends towards the shrill, > because the volunteers wouldn't bother to listen to my polite > requests. Sad but true. I don't doubt that was true then, but I don't think we should a priori assume

Re: A couple of comments on the new docs

2001-08-26 Thread John Levon
On Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 10:27:38PM -0400, Larry Kollar wrote: That's good to hear. Will it be dialog box or simply dialog, or has that been resolved yet? just dialog I think. Brvty s good ;) I'm not particular though. The CVS from Thursday evening. ok regards john -- Premature

Re: A couple of comments on the new docs

2001-08-26 Thread John Levon
On Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 10:27:38PM -0400, Larry Kollar wrote: > That's good to hear. Will it be "dialog box" or simply "dialog," or has > that been resolved yet? just "dialog" I think. Brvty s good ;) I'm not particular though. > The CVS from Thursday evening. ok regards john --

Re: A couple of comments on the new docs

2001-08-24 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 10:33:36PM -0400, Larry Kollar wrote: - The comment about 'dialog' is a programmer term is a bit dated. Even st00p1d Mac users[1] know what a dialog box is. To me, popup is a menu or tooltip. (Not that I think it will get changed, but actually, this will get

Re: A couple of comments on the new docs

2001-08-24 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 10:33:36PM -0400, Larry Kollar wrote: > - The comment about "'dialog' is a programmer term" is a bit dated. >Even st00p1d Mac users[1] know what a dialog box is. To me, "popup" >is a menu or tooltip. (Not that I think it will get changed, but actually, this will

Re: Proposed reorg

2001-08-03 Thread John Levon
On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 10:50:30AM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote: given a piece of wood that in cross-section is 2 inches by 4 inches. Applying a long length of wood of said cross section might cause considerable damage if you held one end and swung the other. This is generally called a

Re: Proposed reorg

2001-08-03 Thread John Levon
On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 10:50:30AM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote: > given a piece of wood that in cross-section is 2 inches by 4 inches. > > Applying a long length of wood of said cross section might cause considerable > damage if you held one end and swung the other. This is generally called a

Re: Proposed reorg

2001-07-30 Thread John Levon
On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 09:28:02PM -0400, John Weiss wrote: how about mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] or see the lyx.org website ? more accessible If you're going to move stuff out of Intro.lyx and into DocStyle.lyx, then DocStyle.lyx needs to live in a more prominent location. How about

Re: Proposed reorg

2001-07-30 Thread John Levon
On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 09:22:10PM -0400, John Weiss wrote: On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 09:28:34AM -0700, Mike Ressler wrote: Also ditch the DANGER DANGER thing. It is NOT a good thing to have as the grumble Humorless lot /grumble Ducking behind sofa... bah, I'm not against humour,

Re: Proposed reorg

2001-07-30 Thread John Levon
On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 09:28:02PM -0400, John Weiss wrote: > > > how about "mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] or see the lyx.org website" ? > > > more accessible > > If you're going to move stuff out of Intro.lyx and into DocStyle.lyx, > then "DocStyle.lyx" needs to live in a more prominent location.

Re: Proposed reorg

2001-07-30 Thread John Levon
On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 09:22:10PM -0400, John Weiss wrote: > On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 09:28:34AM -0700, Mike Ressler wrote: > > > > > Also ditch the "DANGER DANGER" thing. It is NOT a good thing to have as the > > > Humorless lot > > > Ducking behind sofa... > bah, I'm not against humour,

Re: Proposed reorg

2001-07-25 Thread John Levon
On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 09:28:34AM -0700, Mike Ressler wrote: Excellent suggestion - I had forgotten about DocStyle :-) However, DocStyle is not typically installed, so I'd like to keep one line about it somewhere in the normal docs. (If you would like to contribute, please see DocStyle.lyx

Re: Proposed reorg

2001-07-25 Thread John Levon
On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 10:36:36AM -0700, Mike Ressler wrote: a) not in the gui support b) useful for the user c) internal only or whatever This still sounds like a developers-only doc, not something for the general user. Getting rid of it is probably too harsh - moving

bibtex refs

2001-07-25 Thread John Levon
extended tells me to not use the .bib extension, but in fact entering whatever.bib in the bibtex ref dialog works. john -- I have been a soreheaded occupant of a file drawer labeled 'Science Fiction' ... and I would like out, particularly since so many serious critics regularly mistake

Re: Proposed reorg

2001-07-25 Thread John Levon
On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 09:28:34AM -0700, Mike Ressler wrote: > Excellent suggestion - I had forgotten about DocStyle :-) However, > DocStyle is not typically installed, so I'd like to keep one line about it > somewhere in the normal docs. ("If you would like to contribute, please > see

Re: Proposed reorg

2001-07-25 Thread John Levon
On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 10:36:36AM -0700, Mike Ressler wrote: > > > > a) not in the gui support > > b) useful for the user > > c) internal only > > > > or whatever > > This still sounds like a developers-only doc, not something for the > general user. "Getting rid of it" is probably too harsh -

bibtex refs

2001-07-25 Thread John Levon
extended tells me to not use the .bib extension, but in fact entering whatever.bib in the bibtex ref dialog works. john -- "I have been a soreheaded occupant of a file drawer labeled 'Science Fiction' ... and I would like out, particularly since so many serious critics regularly mistake

Re: Proposed reorg

2001-07-24 Thread John Levon
On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 03:11:06PM -0700, Mike Ressler wrote: Philosophy: the Intro should be an intro: it is assumed to be chapter 1 for all other docs. Place less emphasis on doc team by changing that section to an appendix. I would rather move all the stuff about contributing (other than

Re: Proposed reorg

2001-07-24 Thread John Levon
On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 03:11:06PM -0700, Mike Ressler wrote: > Philosophy: the Intro should be an intro: it is assumed to be chapter 1 > for all other docs. Place less emphasis on doc team by changing that > section to an appendix. I would rather move all the stuff about contributing (other

Re: Unreviewed dvi docs patch

2001-07-23 Thread John Levon
On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 09:38:04AM -0700, Mike Ressler wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2001, John Levon wrote: Mike, I haven't had an OK from you on this patch. Is it ok for 1.2.0 ? Arg, I didn't help myself by updating Customization - I have many rejected chunks when trying to apply your patch

Re: Unreviewed dvi docs patch

2001-07-23 Thread John Levon
On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 09:38:04AM -0700, Mike Ressler wrote: > On Sun, 22 Jul 2001, John Levon wrote: > > Mike, I haven't had an "OK" from you on this patch. Is it ok for 1.2.0 ? > > Arg, I didn't help myself by updating Customization - I have many rejected > chun

Unreviewed dvi docs patch

2001-07-21 Thread John Levon
Mike, I haven't had an OK from you on this patch. Is it ok for 1.2.0 ? thanks john -- Voodoo Programming: Things programmers do that they know shouldn't work but they try anyway, and which sometimes actually work, such as recompiling everything. - Karl Lehenbauer

Unreviewed dvi docs patch

2001-07-21 Thread John Levon
Mike, I haven't had an "OK" from you on this patch. Is it ok for 1.2.0 ? thanks john -- "Voodoo Programming: Things programmers do that they know shouldn't work but they try anyway, and which sometimes actually work, such as recompiling everything." - Karl Lehenbauer

Re: Documentation work this week

2001-07-16 Thread John Levon
On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 04:46:48PM -0700, Mike Ressler wrote: declare them set in stone for any possible 1.1.6fix3. The rearranging will then occur in the 1.2 docs, even though I will be using 1.1.6 to rearrange/edit them at first. How much work do you estimate this will take ? Specifically,

Re: Documentation work this week

2001-07-16 Thread John Levon
On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 04:46:48PM -0700, Mike Ressler wrote: > declare them set in stone for any possible 1.1.6fix3. The rearranging will > then occur in the 1.2 docs, even though I will be using 1.1.6 to > rearrange/edit them at first. How much work do you estimate this will take ?

Re: [PATCH] Tiny fixes to Intro.lyx

2001-06-09 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 04:23:33PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 8 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2 Jun 2001, John Levon wrote: I've also added a changelog (cvs add ChangeLog) as I think this would be useful. John, did you actually commit this? I don't see your

Re: [PATCH] Tiny fixes to Intro.lyx

2001-06-09 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 04:23:33PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, 8 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Sat, 2 Jun 2001, John Levon wrote: > > > I've also added a changelog (cvs add ChangeLog) as I think this > > > would be useful. > > J

Re: Popups

2001-06-08 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 09:53:51AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2 Jun 2001, John Levon wrote: Are the doc team still insistent on this term ? It seems both unfamiliar to users, and a bad description (the dialogs do /not/ pop up). IIRC, this was chosen as a compromise - we

Re: "Popups"

2001-06-08 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 09:53:51AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sat, 2 Jun 2001, John Levon wrote: > > Are the doc team still insistent on this term ? It seems both unfamiliar > > to users, and a bad description (the dialogs do /not/ pop up). > > IIRC, this was c

Popups

2001-06-02 Thread John Levon
Are the doc team still insistent on this term ? It seems both unfamiliar to users, and a bad description (the dialogs do /not/ pop up). thanks john -- Please crack down on the Chinaman's friends and Hitler's commander. Mother is the best bet and don't let Satan draw you too fast. A boy has

"Popups"

2001-06-02 Thread John Levon
Are the doc team still insistent on this term ? It seems both unfamiliar to users, and a bad description (the dialogs do /not/ pop up). thanks john -- "Please crack down on the Chinaman's friends and Hitler's commander. Mother is the best bet and don't let Satan draw you too fast. A boy has

Re: Trivial typo.

2000-12-24 Thread John Levon
On Sat, 23 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: since I don't have CVS access to that particular file. The "view dvi" instruction recently moved from the "file" menu to the new "view" menu, so splash.lyx should, in fact, be updated. Just one of the many things to drive me nuts while trying to

Re: Trivial typo.

2000-12-24 Thread John Levon
On Sat, 23 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > since I don't have CVS access to that particular file. The "view > dvi" instruction recently moved from the "file" menu to the new > "view" menu, so splash.lyx should, in fact, be updated. Just one of the > many things to drive me nuts while trying