Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-02 Thread Joost Verburg
William R. Buckley wrote: I noticed that when trying to browse for the graphic file of a figure inserted into a document via the LyX user interface, and upon trying to utilise a shortcut (as the means to more efficiently select the proper directory that is to be browsed), it happens that LyX copi

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread Michael Wojcik
William R. Buckley wrote: What really surprises me is the effort various members have expended to encourage me not to help your project. I quite think your efforts are misguided. Well, I suspect this particular issue (the treatment of Windows "shortcuts" in some of the LyX file-open dialogs,

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread Joost Verburg
G. Milde wrote: There was a suggestion to report the bug to "where it belongs", i.e. the QT library. QT is actively supported, tries to do the "operating system universality" in a clean and sensible way. Maybe this bug is even fixed in a current version of QT (or labelled as wontfix even there if

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 05:53:57AM -0700, William R. Buckley wrote: > There was an assumption then, that I know what Qt is, > and therefore should have understood the mention. Well, that's an assumption e.g. I rarely make. However, I usually assume that literate people using the internet for emai

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread Joost Verburg
William R. Buckley wrote: I noticed that when trying to browse for the graphic file of a figure inserted into a document via the LyX user interface, and upon trying to utilise a shortcut (as the means to more efficiently select the proper directory that is to be browsed), it happens that LyX copi

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread Joost Verburg
Paul A. Rubin wrote: On my XP Home box, every program I've tested that uses the Windows file open dialog can follow a shortcut (.lnk) to a directory. So either something is amiss with your system, or maybe you have some registry setting mucking things up. If I remember correctly, there is in

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Joost Verburg wrote: William R. Buckley wrote: Well, the open source tool Maxima has no problem following a Windows shortcut in its browsing function. So, your position is therefore that LyX should be less than it might be, when other open source tools have no problem with a simple if arcane fu

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread William R. Buckley
d complete information. That is what you expect to obtain from those who seek assistance with your product. Give the same as you expect. wrb > -Original Message- > From: G. Milde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 12:18 AM > To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread G. Milde
On 31.03.08, William R. Buckley wrote: > Well, the open source tool Maxima has no problem following a Windows > shortcut in its browsing function. So, your position is therefore that > LyX should be less than it might be, when other open source tools have > no problem with a simple if arcane func

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread William R. Buckley
using? > -Original Message- > From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joost Verburg > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 8:37 PM > To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > Subject: Re: WRB - Observations > > William R. Buckley wrote: > > Well, the open source tool Maxi

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread Joost Verburg
William R. Buckley wrote: Well, the open source tool Maxima has no problem following a Windows shortcut in its browsing function. So, your position is therefore that LyX should be less than it might be, when other open source tools have no problem with a simple if arcane function. On my system

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread William R. Buckley
itt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 7:57 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: WRB - Observations > > On Monday 31 March 2008 19:19, William R. Buckley wrote: > > > Please, it is not about how I would like things. Rather, it is not > > what

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread William R. Buckley
> -Original Message- > From: Michael Wojcik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 2:46 PM > To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > Subject: Re: WRB - Observations > > rgheck wrote: > > Michael Wojcik wrote: > >> > >> I don't

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 05:45:30PM -0400, Michael Wojcik wrote: > rgheck wrote: >> Michael Wojcik wrote: >>> >>> I don't think this is a bug in Qt, though arguably it's a missing >>> feature. Shortcuts are not first-class filesystem objects in Windows. >>> They're files that are treated in a spec

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread Michael Wojcik
rgheck wrote: Michael Wojcik wrote: I don't think this is a bug in Qt, though arguably it's a missing feature. Shortcuts are not first-class filesystem objects in Windows. They're files that are treated in a special manner by Windows Explorer. LyX uses Qt for its file dialogs, etc, so if th

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 01:18:00PM -0700, William R. Buckley wrote: > > > LyX supports Windows, Linux/Unix and Mac OS X and it should work > > > fine on all these platforms. There is no reason why one of these > > > platform should get more support than others. > > > > There surely is. There is no

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread William R. Buckley
> > Rich Shepard wrote: > >> However, if you want to use open source applications built to open > >> standards, then understand that almost all of these were > >> originally > >> build for linux or one of the *BSDs, those are the platforms the > >> developers use, and making them available to t

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 11:57:47PM +0200, Joost Verburg wrote: > Rich Shepard wrote: >> However, if you want to use open source applications built >> to open standards, then understand that almost all of these were >> originally >> build for linux or one of the *BSDs, those are the platforms the

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Joost Verburg wrote: Paul A. Rubin wrote: I don't think so. Contrast the behavior of the Insert -> Graphics dialog with the File -> Open dialog. With both dialogs I get exactly the same behavior (the .lnk file is opened). File -> Open hides shortcuts by default because it's looking for .ly

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread Typhoon
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:04:58 -0700 "William R. Buckley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am reminded of the biblical warning, of not casting pearls. I think that LyX is a pearl of great beauty. Alan > > wrb

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread William R. Buckley
ation). I am reminded of the biblical warning, of not casting pearls. wrb > -Original Message- > From: Rich Shepard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 2:35 PM > To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > Subject: RE: WRB - Observations > > On Sun, 30 Mar

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread rgheck
rgheck wrote: Michael Wojcik wrote: rgheck wrote: William R. Buckley wrote: I noticed that when trying to browse for the graphic file of a figure inserted into a document via the LyX user interface, and upon trying to utilise a shortcut (as the means to more efficiently select the proper dire

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread rgheck
Michael Wojcik wrote: rgheck wrote: William R. Buckley wrote: I noticed that when trying to browse for the graphic file of a figure inserted into a document via the LyX user interface, and upon trying to utilise a shortcut (as the means to more efficiently select the proper directory that is t

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread Joost Verburg
Paul A. Rubin wrote: I don't think so. Contrast the behavior of the Insert -> Graphics dialog with the File -> Open dialog. With both dialogs I get exactly the same behavior (the .lnk file is opened). File -> Open hides shortcuts by default because it's looking for .lyx files while Insert -

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread Paul A. Rubin
William R. Buckley wrote: It is unreasonable to expect the entire Windows using community to avoid a mechanism that is part of the Windows operating system. The proper solution, distasteful as it may be, is to implement code which facilitates this *hack* (I always think of a hack as a desirable g

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Joost Verburg wrote: Rich Shepard wrote: However, if you want to use open source applications built to open standards, then understand that almost all of these were originally build for linux or one of the *BSDs, those are the platforms the developers use, and making them available to the Win

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread Joost Verburg
Rich Shepard wrote: However, if you want to use open source applications built to open standards, then understand that almost all of these were originally build for linux or one of the *BSDs, those are the platforms the developers use, and making them available to the Windows world is a courtesy,

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008, William R. Buckley wrote: It is unreasonable to expect the entire Windows using community to avoid a mechanism that is part of the Windows operating system. However, William, I think it's reasonable to expect the entire Windows using community to defenestrate to linux, *

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread William R. Buckley
, but I digress). Otherwise, you have a product that does not really work in the Windows world. wrb > -Original Message- > From: Michael Wojcik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 11:24 AM > To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > Subject: Re: WRB - Observati

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread Michael Wojcik
rgheck wrote: William R. Buckley wrote: I noticed that when trying to browse for the graphic file of a figure inserted into a document via the LyX user interface, and upon trying to utilise a shortcut (as the means to more efficiently select the proper directory that is to be browsed), it happe

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-26 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Todd Denniston wrote: Minipages? Sure: Insert->Box (a frameless Box is a minipage). However, as Richard said, LaTeX isn't designed for grid layout. It's not a DTP application. Box isn't very descriptive. I'd never have guessed this. Would there by objections to making it Minipage? or Tex

Re: Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-26 Thread Todd Denniston
rgheck wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM: Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Minipages? Sure: Insert->Box (a frameless Box is a minipage). However, as Richard said, LaTeX isn't designed for grid layout. It's not a DTP application. Box isn't very descriptive. I'd never have guessed this. Would there

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-26 Thread rgheck
Rich Shepard wrote: On Wed, 26 Mar 2008, Uwe Stöhr wrote: The placement of figures is now accomplished, though I do have some complaint about the *compliance* of LyX, vis-à-vis following directions in the placement of graphics. I do use the Float:Figure mechanism, and note that the options for

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-26 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008, Uwe Stöhr wrote: The placement of figures is now accomplished, though I do have some complaint about the *compliance* of LyX, vis-à-vis following directions in the placement of graphics. I do use the Float:Figure mechanism, and note that the options for placement are general

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-26 Thread Uwe Stöhr
rgheck schrieb: LyX isn't that kind of program. It's not FrameMaker or Adobe Publisher or whatever. But LaTeX does have so-called minipages that can be used for this kind of purpose. As far as I know, LyX doesn't have any support for this, but of course you can do it manually via LaTeX in ERT.

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-26 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
rgheck wrote: > Box isn't very descriptive. I'd never have guessed this. Would there by > objections to making it Minipage? or Text Box? or ??? Minipage is a LaTeXism. And it can contain more than just text. Jürgen

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-26 Thread rgheck
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Minipages? Sure: Insert->Box (a frameless Box is a minipage). However, as Richard said, LaTeX isn't designed for grid layout. It's not a DTP application. Box isn't very descriptive. I'd never have guessed this. Would there by objections to making it Minipage? or

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-26 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
rgheck wrote: > > Another difficulty is with the inclusion of a citation (\cite[]{}) > > in a caption of a figure placed with the Float:Figure insert > > function of the LyX user interface.  I can easily hardcode > > the citation, and it may be that I just don't understand how > > to package the ci

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-26 Thread rgheck
William R. Buckley wrote: Reminder - WindowsXP installation of LyX1.5.4/MikTeX2.7 I noticed that when trying to browse for the graphic file of a figure inserted into a document via the LyX user interface, and upon trying to utilise a shortcut (as the means to more efficiently select the proper d