Re: [M100] mystery ROM

2022-03-08 Thread Stephen Adolph
nice job all! great detective work! On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 12:02 PM Brian K. White wrote: > On 3/7/22 21:21, Brian K. White wrote: > > On 3/7/22 17:05, Stephen Adolph wrote: > >> > >> > >> > https://www.ebay.ca/itm/255421613953?hash=item3b78508781:g:dAYAAOSwfbFiJS8J > >> < > https://www.ebay.ca

Re: [M100] mystery ROM

2022-03-07 Thread Mike Stein
You're probably right; note that the HHC ROMS only had 24 pins. On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 9:21 PM Brian K. White wrote: > On 3/7/22 17:05, Stephen Adolph wrote: > > > > > > > https://www.ebay.ca/itm/255421613953?hash=item3b78508781:g:dAYAAOSwfbFiJS8J > > < > https://www.ebay.ca/itm/255421613953?

Re: [M100] mystery ROM

2022-03-07 Thread Brian K. White
On 3/7/22 21:21, Brian K. White wrote: On 3/7/22 17:05, Stephen Adolph wrote: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/255421613953?hash=item3b78508781:g:dAYAAOSwfbFiJS8J Never seen this before.  Does anyone recall a product cal

Re: [M100] mystery ROM

2022-03-07 Thread Brian K. White
M *To:* M100 Mailing List *Subject:* Re: [M100] mystery ROM I know I'm curious, but not $50 curious. Tom Wilson wilso...@gmail.com <mailto:wilso...@gmail.com> (619)940-6311 On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 2:05 PM Stephen Adolph <mailto:twospru...@gmail.com>> wrote: h

Re: [M100] mystery ROM

2022-03-07 Thread Brian K. White
On 3/7/22 17:05, Stephen Adolph wrote: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/255421613953?hash=item3b78508781:g:dAYAAOSwfbFiJS8J Never seen this before.  Does anyone recall a product called "ROM POWER" for either M100 or T200?

Re: [M100] mystery ROM

2022-03-07 Thread you got me
I don't recall ever seeing an option ROM for the m100 that didn't have the flex circuit wrap around over the chip. From: M100 on behalf of Tom Wilson Sent: Monday, March 7, 2022 10:57 PM To: M100 Mailing List Subject: Re: [M100] mystery ROM I know I

Re: [M100] mystery ROM

2022-03-07 Thread Tom Wilson
I know I'm curious, but not $50 curious. Tom Wilson wilso...@gmail.com (619)940-6311 On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 2:05 PM Stephen Adolph wrote: > > > https://www.ebay.ca/itm/255421613953?hash=item3b78508781:g:dAYAAOSwfbFiJS8J > > Never seen this before. Does anyone recall a product called "ROM POW

Re: [M100] mystery ROM

2022-03-07 Thread Ben Wiley Sittler
Possible it's one of their HP-41C ROM modules, see for instance https://vintagecalc.com/hp-41c-custom-software-modules/ On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, 14:24 Ben Wiley Sittler wrote: > Old trademark info suggests it's software related to insurance and > financial planning, but no idea beyond that (platform

Re: [M100] mystery ROM

2022-03-07 Thread Ben Wiley Sittler
Old trademark info suggests it's software related to insurance and financial planning, but no idea beyond that (platform? Who knows!) Basis for my belief: https://trademarks.justia.com/734/44/rompower-73444378.html On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, 14:05 Stephen Adolph wrote: > > > https://www.ebay.ca/itm/2

[M100] mystery ROM

2022-03-07 Thread Stephen Adolph
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/255421613953?hash=item3b78508781:g:dAYAAOSwfbFiJS8J Never seen this before. Does anyone recall a product called "ROM POWER" for either M100 or T200? I don't actually think this is for M100... steve

Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot

2017-03-15 Thread Daryl Tester
Resent from correct email address - pre-coffee here. On Wed, 15 Mar 2017 10:31:56 -0700, John R. Hogerhuis wrote: But they eventually got it all decoded and the Python code is around on the internet somewhere. Yeah, I was vaguely aware of this, and got the impression hers was a greenfields

Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot

2017-03-15 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:37 AM, Daryl Tester < dt-m...@handcraftedcomputers.com.au> wrote: > > At Linux conf last year there was someone who was using a Raspberry Pi and > the TPDD protocol to interface to her > Brother (no double entendre intended). *[thank goodness] * I didn't get a chance to

Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot

2017-03-15 Thread Daryl Tester
On 15/03/17 17:54, John R. Hogerhuis wrote: On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 12:14 AM hargarg trurthsr mailto:fungus...@outlook.com>> wrote: So the TPDD was used with Brother sewing machines as well ? You learn something new everyday... Knitting machines. A device that prints 2 dimensional patte

Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot

2017-03-15 Thread Brian White
The little rectangle connector is easy too. A standard 2x4 idc female will plug right in, complete with polarity key. On Mar 15, 2017 3:14 AM, "hargarg trurthsr" wrote: > So the TPDD was used with Brother sewing machines as well ? You learn > something new everyday... > > I always thought the

Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot

2017-03-15 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 12:14 AM hargarg trurthsr wrote: > So the TPDD was used with Brother sewing machines as well ? You learn > something new everyday... > Knitting machines. A device that prints 2 dimensional patterns in multiple colors of yarn. -- John.

Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot

2017-03-15 Thread hargarg trurthsr
So the TPDD was used with Brother sewing machines as well ? You learn something new everyday... I always thought the cable was just a cable. Didn't know it had parts in it. Someone sold three of them last year on ebay for $35...I guess I could wait and see if anyone else sells them or tr

Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot

2017-03-14 Thread Brian White
There is documentation how to build the cable, somewhere on club100 or bitchin100 or in the M100SIG archive. Unfortunately it's an active cable with electronics in it. It converts from rs232 to ttl, and does a peculiar dirty trick to rob power from the rs232 port. http://ratthing.com/club100/tpdd.

Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot

2017-03-14 Thread hargarg trurthsr
Just found the portable drive. It's the second version. I can't find the power cable or the rs-232 cable, though On 3/13/2017 5:28 PM, Brian White wrote: The dos that comes with the disk drive is loaded from the disk drive from a file on disk (the first time), and you have to kick the process of

Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot

2017-03-14 Thread hargarg trurthsr
I've managed to find the utility disk for the portable drive(I don't know which drive I had). Still haven't found the drive, yet, though, if I still have it. I don't know much about electronics, so I don't know if I could build a Rex myself. I think Rex is interesting because it opens the Model

Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot

2017-03-13 Thread Brian White
The dos that comes with the disk drive is loaded from the disk drive from a file on disk (the first time), and you have to kick the process off by typing in a tiny bit of BASIC manually first, which does listen on the com port. You need the Utility Disk that came with the drive, or a copy. If you h

Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot

2017-03-13 Thread hargarg trurthsr
Monoprice 479 -- good to know for future reference. Thanks. The DOS I used was pre all of that. I'm talking ancient. I think it's the one I got from Radio Shack with the Floppy when I bought it. It was fairly basic, I think with a simple menu to load, save, delete on floppy, and I think I do r

Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot

2017-03-13 Thread Brian White
Too late now I guess, but just get a Monoprice 479 for $2 and it's the perfect cable for M100/102/200/600 to a pc all pre-made molded in one piece. No null-modem adapters or gender changers needed. If you need a usb-serial adapter on the pc side, anything works. They all have the right 9pin, male,

Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot

2017-03-13 Thread Kurt McCullum
The EME logo might indicate that underneath is a standard 27c256 eprom. At one time, EME made a flexible PCB that wrapped around a normal eprom and re-mapped the pins to match the optrom socket. I have been able to re-use these so even if the ROM isn't useful any more, the EME PCB may be. Kurt

Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot

2017-03-13 Thread hargarg trurthsr
I'm fairly sure it's probably the DOS for the floppy drive now. When I do call 63012 it prints a line feed and just waits there like it's looking for the floppy drive. I've ordered some parts to try to make a null modem cable to connect to the PC. I could probably write a program to send the

Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot

2017-03-13 Thread Brian White
The rombo is a generic device that can have any rom you wanted loaded on it, like a thumb drive. Doesn't have to be written by or even licensed by EME. And there are a few different roms that had disk support in them. After re-seating, call 63012 still didn't work any better? If you're really cur

Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot

2017-03-13 Thread hargarg trurthsr
The only thing that I can think of is, it might be the DOS for the portable floppy drive which I had at one point(I still might somewhere). I don't know if EME systems was ever involved with that or whether the portable floppy drive required an option ROM to operate. On 3/13/2017 12:54 AM, Mike

Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot

2017-03-13 Thread hargarg trurthsr
I pulled the option ROM out and plugged it back in and tried printing chr$ of $ to $8000 again. I'm getting something different now -- no alternating patterns, just a bunch of random chr$, so something is there. I didn't see any recognizable English words, though which is odd if there was so

Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot

2017-03-13 Thread hargarg trurthsr
laxy-smartphone. Originalmeddelande Från: "John R. Hogerhuis" <mailto:jho...@pobox.com> Datum: 2017-03-13 07:04 (GMT+01:00) Till: Model 100 Discussion <mailto:m100@lists.bitchin100.com> Rubrik: Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot The low bytes in an option

Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot

2017-03-13 Thread Stephen Adolph
It might be worth re seating the chip to make sure the contacts are working. On Monday, March 13, 2017, Mike Nugent wrote: > EME Systems (Dr. Tracy Allen) offered several products for the "Model T” > notebooks. Take a look at a back issue of Portable 100 for the ads. For > example, go to http://

Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot

2017-03-13 Thread Mike Nugent
EME Systems (Dr. Tracy Allen) offered several products for the "Model T” notebooks. Take a look at a back issue of Portable 100 for the ads. For example, go to http://www.club100.org/library/libp100.html and near the bottom right side of the page, select "Vol. 9 No. 9 Sep/Nov 1992” to download o

Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot

2017-03-12 Thread roger
Is this a US machine or an international one? Roger Skickat från min Samsung Galaxy-smartphone. Originalmeddelande Från: "John R. Hogerhuis" Datum: 2017-03-13 07:04 (GMT+01:00) Till: Model 100 Discussion Rubrik: Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot The lo

Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot

2017-03-12 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
The low bytes in an option rom are the reset and other interrupt entry points. -- John. On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 10:27 PM hargarg trurthsr wrote: > Thank you for that program. I tried print chr$ the option rom address > $ to $8000 and there are some stuff at the very beginning, but nothing >

Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot

2017-03-12 Thread hargarg trurthsr
Thank you for that program. I tried print chr$ the option rom address $ to $8000 and there are some stuff at the very beginning, but nothing identifiable and then it's just pages and pages of mostly ";" + 0 (59, and 0). Weird... The first bytes starting from $ are 56, 191, 239, 255, 19

Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot

2017-03-12 Thread Willard Goosey
om Samsung tablet Original message From "John R. Hogerhuis" Date: 03/12/2017 9:13 PM (GMT-07:00) To Model 100 Discussion Subject Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 7:49 PM, hargarg trurthsr wrote: Thanks for your suggestion. I tried

Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot

2017-03-12 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 7:49 PM, hargarg trurthsr wrote: > Thanks for your suggestion. I tried print(chr$(i)) from i - 0 to 65535 > and all I see is the usual microsoft stuff and BASIC commands in > standard ROM and the screen menu items. Doesn't the option ROM reside > at the same memory addres

Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot

2017-03-12 Thread hargarg trurthsr
Thanks for your suggestion. I tried print(chr$(i)) from i - 0 to 65535 and all I see is the usual microsoft stuff and BASIC commands in standard ROM and the screen menu items. Doesn't the option ROM reside at the same memory address as the standard ROM and can only be accessed by memory switch

Re: [M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot

2017-03-12 Thread Douglas Quagliana
You could try writing a little FOR loop in basic to PEEK the memory and print the contents. Perhaps something like FOR I=62000 TO 65535: PRINT CHR( PEEK(I)); : NEXT then look for something readable like "Option ROM (C) 1986 Club100" ... or whatever. You might need to change the starting and

[M100] Mystery Rom in Option Rom slot

2017-03-12 Thread hargarg trurthsr
I have a model 102 with 32k ram expansion which I got in the 80's. I just recently rediscovered it in closet and found some rom installed in the option rom slot. It has an eme systems logo on it, but I have no idea what it is. I've already tried calling 63012 and 63013 and the computer just fre