Re: wanting to do something regarding an mp3 cookbook, putting it on an iPod

2013-07-20 Thread meadowlark77
How do you turn a text into an epub book? Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 10:10 PM Subject: Re: wanting to do something regarding an

Re: Where have all my voices gone?

2013-07-20 Thread Chris H
Chris the compact version of Daniel already comes with Os X, however the high quality voice is available free to download. On 20/07/2013 06:03, Chris Gilland wrote: Hmm, since when did the mac come with Daniel? I was under the impression that had to be installed/downloaded separetly?

State of Apple Accessibility (was: Re: Logic Pro X accessibility: the view from Cupertino)

2013-07-20 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
Chris, Dealing with both your mails in one here. I wholeheartedly agree. I've been convinced for almost 2 years that Apple sees their job in terms of accessibility for the blind, specifically on OSX but to a lesser extent on IOS, as done. They can walk into any courtroom and claim, with

Re: State of Apple Accessibility (was: Re: Logic Pro X accessibility: the view from Cupertino)

2013-07-20 Thread Chris Moore
I agree, Mac OS X accessibility sucks. iOS is far superior and the Mac is half baked and very buggy. I could never recommend the Mac as a productive tool for the blind. I don't think we should give up though, we need to keep up the pressure. We also need to shame Apple by bringing it to the

Re: Where have all my voices gone?

2013-07-20 Thread Andy Collins
I can't tell you when Macs began shipping with a compact version of Daniel installed, but this one did, it's the latest MacBook Air, only released about 4 weeks ago - Andy On 20 Jul 2013, at 06:03, Chris Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: Hmm, since when did the mac come with Daniel? I

Re: State of Apple Accessibility (was: Re: Logic Pro X accessibility: the view from Cupertino)

2013-07-20 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
Chris, Just to be clear I think they've done a stellar job on IOS. Sure there are things I'd like to see, things I'd have done differently; but that applies to my own development work (in retrospect) as well. The reality is that four and a half years after iWork 09 was released, it is still

Re: Mail busy message

2013-07-20 Thread Carol Pearson
No. I don't think it's that. If I can recall correctly, I was hearing the word blank spoken. Carol P Sent from my iPhone using BrailleTouch On 20 Jul 2013, at 06:00 AM, Chris Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: OK, let me ask you something: the times when you have had to use the right

Re: Mail busy message

2013-07-20 Thread Carol Pearson
You're right, I probably don't. I often say one thing that mean another. I was mean what I mean though! Smiley Carol P Sent from my iPhone using BrailleTouch On 20 Jul 2013, at 06:01 AM, Chris Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: OK, be careful here. You probably didn't mean what you

Re: Where have all my voices gone?

2013-07-20 Thread Carol Pearson
That's why I think I really did have Alex and Fred at one stage. Carol P Sent from my iPhone using BrailleTouch On 20 Jul 2013, at 06:03 AM, Chris Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: Hmm, since when did the mac come with Daniel? I was under the impression that had to be

Re: Where have all my voices gone?

2013-07-20 Thread Andy Collins
Carol - Holding down VO command, and using the right arrow key, I can get to the voices available to me on this Mac. These are Daniel, Alex, Fred, Agnes and Tom. I only downloaded the better quality voice of Daniel, the others came pre-installed. Remember, once you get to the voice, to then use

Re: Where have all my voices gone?

2013-07-20 Thread Carol Pearson
Yes, tried it, doesn't work! They were there once…. Still, never mind! Carol P Sent from my iPhone using BrailleTouch On 20 Jul 2013, at 01:43 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Carol - Holding down VO command, and using the right arrow key, I can get to the voices available to

Re: Where have all my voices gone?

2013-07-20 Thread Gordon Keen
Hi When you go in to the voice over utility and select speech then tab along to voices have you tried selecting customise? Once there arrow down, , on my mac book air I get a shed load of voices in dozens of languages or special effects, which you can try by pressing the play button. If

Re: Where have all my voices gone?

2013-07-20 Thread Carol Pearson
Ha ha! I'm now very happy, almost! Thanks Gordon, I managed to find what I wanted. That customise option was well hidden. I didn't find it when I looked earlier so thanks for alerting me to that one. Anyway, I selected a voice as I want and they seem to be downloading, but I'm not sure quite

Re: State of Apple Accessibility (was: Re: Logic Pro X accessibility: the view from Cupertino)

2013-07-20 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey All, Funny as the message you got from Apple on Logic is the same exact response I have gotten for years from Apple about the awful accessibility of Numbers which I now no longer use. I got blasted on this list for listing several issues with mountain lion and voiceover when it came out.

Re: State of Apple Accessibility (was: Re: Logic Pro X accessibility: the view from Cupertino)

2013-07-20 Thread Josh Gregory
Definitely agree, and I would hate to see them go the way of humanware, not saying that they or Apple are bad companies, but both companies responses could definitely be improved a bit. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey All,

Re: State of Apple Accessibility (was: Re: Logic Pro X accessibility: the view from Cupertino)

2013-07-20 Thread John Panarese
OK, maybe I am missing something here, but I am reading some of the most ridiculous and assumption ridden posts in this thread. How in the world can you say the Mac is half-baked? The Mac is just as accessible as Windows at this point, and for whatever weaknesses you can point out in OS X,

Re: State of Apple Accessibility (was: Re: Logic Pro X accessibility: the view from Cupertino)

2013-07-20 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I agree with John there. I think he mac is far superior to windows. In fact I can attest to that in my sales of the tutorials I have made starting out for a friend who recommended to me I sell them and get a job as a mac trainer, later maybe though. I can say that mac is very mud h accessible

question from a new member about settings on the mac.

2013-07-20 Thread Linda C. Knight
Hi all, I discovered this list while researching vo keyboard shortcut commands through the internet. I am a new mac user and I am very excited. I have set up my email program and doing ok there. So I haven't scratched the surface. LOL! My husband also has a mac-he has the Macbook

Re: question from a new member about settings on the mac.

2013-07-20 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Ah. A fellow ham. Cool! i've been a mac user for 3 years and there's always stuff to learn. That's what i love about it. 1. Go to settings and then key board and the first tab there called i believe key board. I don't have it open, but if you go in there there is a setting that says to use

Re: question from a new member about settings on the mac.

2013-07-20 Thread Matthew Carello
Hello Linda. The macs are wonderful things aren't they? I would strongly suggest that you check out www.applevis.com for podcast and tutorials on working with any apple product. There are a lot of good things there even ways to set up a mac so that it is more accessible. There are also many

MAIL HAS NO WINDOWS

2013-07-20 Thread Carol
Hi Andy and all, I think we discussed this a little while back and were both feeling a bit confused when we found ourselves in this situation (which I always think of as being in a maze, - and that isn't my favourite place to be! Well, I wandered there again today - and knew I would - so just

Re: State of Apple Accessibility (was: Re: Logic Pro X accessibility: the view from Cupertino)

2013-07-20 Thread Daniela Rubio
Hello: Totally agree with you. Accessibility is one thing, and trying to compare ways of doing tasks in one or other OS is different. I am one of those who use my mac productively every day for my job, and I hand in professional documents of all kinds, edit videos, Handdle audios, and all at

Re: MAIL HAS NO WINDOWS

2013-07-20 Thread John Panarese
Next time, try command-1 and that will take you back to the inbox in Mail. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and

Re: Where have all my voices gone?

2013-07-20 Thread Sarah k Alawami
After the voices download they will be in your voice over voices list. You then need to just choose them and you will be fine and dandy. Take care. On Jul 20, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Carol Pearson carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote: Ha ha! I'm now very happy, almost! Thanks Gordon, I

Re: MAIL HAS NO WINDOWS

2013-07-20 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Actually there's a quicker way. If you want to get to the inbox from the mail has no windows just hit cmd 1. You can set up favorites for other folders up to cmd 0. Hth. On Jul 20, 2013, at 12:19 PM, Carol carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Andy and all, I think we discussed this

Re: MAIL HAS NO WINDOWS

2013-07-20 Thread Andy Collins
Hi John, and Carol - I am now using command 1 to get back to my inbox, but the problem I have is that when I press enter to read a message, and then do command 1, I'm not always back where I expect to be, sometimes I'm on a headers list, sometimes on the message group. Over all, I am coping

Re: MAIL HAS NO WINDOWS

2013-07-20 Thread John Panarese
After you open the message, have you tried doing a command-w to close it? That should put you right back in your inbox with that same message selected. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website,

Still need help with saving links

2013-07-20 Thread Andy Collins
Hi all - Still need instruction on how to save favourite links on a Mac. I can't seem to select a link from a Webpage and cut it, and when I type a Web address in a Text Edit document, can't turn it in to a live link. Anybody tell me how to do this please? - Andy --- Mac Access At Mac Access

Re: MAIL HAS NO WINDOWS

2013-07-20 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey Carol, I believe you might accidentally be closing all of mail when trying to close an email. I occasionally do this as I leave my mail open all the time on my desktop. A quick way to relaunch mail is having a keyboard commander for mail. I use the z key with the modifier key I think option

Re: MAIL HAS NO WINDOWS

2013-07-20 Thread Andy Collins
Thank you John - I hadn't thought about using the close window option in those circumstances - Andy On 20 Jul 2013, at 20:50, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote: After you open the message, have you tried doing a command-w to close it? That should put you right back in your

Re: State of Apple Accessibility (was: Re: Logic Pro X accessibility: the view from Cupertino)

2013-07-20 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey John, Relax. It is great to read everyone's opinions on the topic. Do some people go to far saying that Apple isn't committed to accessibility. Sure, but hey that is their opinion. In my posting, I am just saying, I don't know how something so simple as web spots can be reversed as it is

Re: Still need help with saving links

2013-07-20 Thread Daniela Rubio
Hello! I think that one possibility you have is: Go to your link and hit Vo+u. You will here the Address spoken. Then, Copy the last to clipboard with Vo+Shift+F3. You can then go to your text document in Textedit and write something that represent that link. For example: Super marquet page.

Re: Still need help with saving links

2013-07-20 Thread Daniela Rubio
Just a comment on this. When you want to copy the address of the page you ar in, just hit CMD+l, make a copy command and the rest is the same. Cheers! Daniela Rubio T  Distinguished Educator iPhone: +34662328507 El 20/07/2013, a las 21:50, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com escribió: Hi

Re: State of Apple Accessibility (was: Re: Logic Pro X accessibility: the view from Cupertino)

2013-07-20 Thread John Panarese
There is nothing wrong with opinions and I think I had tried to make that clear in my post. However, there is a difference between personal opinion and making blanket statements that you feel reflect what everyone should think. If you think Mac accessibility is half baked, well, as I

Re: MAIL HAS NO WINDOWS

2013-07-20 Thread Matthew Carello
It has been a while since I have used this but isn't there a default for opening mail already? I thought it was option key plus m? At least I think i remember it being that way. On 7/20/2013 2:51 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: Hey Carol, I believe you might accidentally be closing all of mail when

Re: Still need help with saving links

2013-07-20 Thread Andy Collins
Daniela - More than one thing didn't work here. Firstly, doing VO u on the link, just opened the roter, it doesn't give the address. However, I used the roater to get to the link, but when I used the key combination of VO shift f3, this just turned cursor tracking off! - Andy On 20 Jul 2013,

Re: State of Apple Accessibility (was: Re: Logic Pro X accessibility: the view from Cupertino)

2013-07-20 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey John, Yes, I agree who ever made the half baked comment seems to be going a little far. As for me and numbers, I am not sure what my issue is as the final straw with using it was the constant VO crashing when using it. I am not sure if crashing is the appropriate term, what would happen

Re: State of Apple Accessibility (was: Re: Logic Pro X accessibility: the view from Cupertino)

2013-07-20 Thread Mike Arrigo
I don't even have a pc at home anymore. I only use windows for one thing and that's because there is no mac version of it. Other than, it's the mac all the way for me, this is for web browsing, email, music, documents, and other things I can't think of. Anyone who says that accessibility only

Saving favourite links

2013-07-20 Thread Andy Collins
Hi all - Not getting anywhere with this one. I don't know if this Mac is set up a bit differently to others, but certain things suggested [if I am understanding correctly] do not work for me. For example, somebody suggested doing command l to get a web page address, but for me, this key

RE: Saving favourite links

2013-07-20 Thread David Griffith
I do not understand the distinction you are drawing between a link and address. If you go to your Amazon page and open the link you want to save all you then have to do is press command L and then command C to save the link address to the clipboard. You can now paste this link into a document

Re: MAIL HAS NO WINDOWS

2013-07-20 Thread Carol Pearson
Andy, I'm a bit brain-dead, so this may not be worth saying, but do you use VO J? This cycles between Message header messages and/or mailbox, I think. Now I'm off the phone also. Enough for today! May do better tomorrow! Carol P Sent from my iPhone using BrailleTouch On 20 Jul 2013, at

Re: MAIL HAS NO WINDOWS

2013-07-20 Thread Brian Fischler
Yes it was option and m, but I changed my to Z as hitting option and z is so much easier On Jul 20, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Matthew Carello mcarell...@comcast.net wrote: It has been a while since I have used this but isn't there a default for opening mail already? I thought it was option key plus

Re: Saving favourite links

2013-07-20 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi! OK does the VO+shift+m not work for you! Whilst sitting on that link open that command and one of the options should be copy link! HTH Colin On 20 Jul 2013, at 22:07, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi all - Not getting anywhere with this one. I don't know if this Mac is

Re: State of Apple Accessibility (was: Re: Logic Pro X accessibility: the view from Cupertino)

2013-07-20 Thread John Panarese
Hi Brian, One of these days, I'd like to sit down with you and hear this happen. It's easier to actually hear things happening to get an idea of what is going on. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website,

Re: Saving favourite links

2013-07-20 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Sometimes that will not for some reason work. You will know this as you will bet instead of copy link and such, you will get back, and inspect element. I have this problem on googles lot because of the way they coded the site so I have to open the page and copy the link to the clip board. Tc.

Re: MAIL HAS NO WINDOWS

2013-07-20 Thread Sarah k Alawami
It is unless you like me disabled it. I turned that in to option numrow 3 instead. Tc. On Jul 20, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Matthew Carello mcarell...@comcast.net wrote: It has been a while since I have used this but isn't there a default for opening mail already? I thought it was option key plus

Re: Saving favourite links

2013-07-20 Thread Andy Collins
Thanks Red Falcon - This was exactly what I was looking for. I'd forgotten about the context menu and that it might be the place to look for this kind of thing. All sorted now - Andy On 20 Jul 2013, at 22:37, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com wrote: Hi! OK does the VO+shift+m not

Re: Saving favourite links

2013-07-20 Thread Andy Collins
David - sorry if I was causing confusion, I can do that to myself, so know I can do it to others also smile I tried your method, and got as far as pasting the link, but couldn't actually get it to activate - Andy On 20 Jul 2013, at 22:13, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: I do

Re: MAIL HAS NO WINDOWS

2013-07-20 Thread Andy Collins
Carol - Yes, but it doesn't always do the same thing consistantly - Andy On 20 Jul 2013, at 22:15, Carol Pearson carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote: Andy, I'm a bit brain-dead, so this may not be worth saying, but do you use VO J? This cycles between Message header messages and/or

Re: State of Apple Accessibility (was: Re: Logic Pro X accessibility: the view from Cupertino)

2013-07-20 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey John, sounds like a plan. I'll give you a shout and we can discuss it off list. On Jul 20, 2013, at 5:54 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Brian, One of these days, I'd like to sit down with you and hear this happen. It's easier to actually hear things happening to

Re: Saving favourite links

2013-07-20 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Andy, The Copy link option in the contextual menu doesn't always work. It all depends on how the page was coded. However, when on a link, VO-Shift-u will read the actual link and VO-Shift-c will copy it to the clipboard. It was the Copy link command that failed when I tried to give you

Re: Saving favourite links

2013-07-20 Thread Daniela Rubio
Hello: When you do command l, you get the address bar, so you can copy the content to make it a link. And to get a ling, not the address, just do vo+u and then copy the last to clipboard and you have the link where it is addressed. hope it helps Daniela Rubio T  Distinguished Educator iPhone:

Re: MAIL HAS NO WINDOWS

2013-07-20 Thread Sarah k Alawami
You can use vo j but that according to the key board help cycles between linked items so you can use it to jump between the mail box and mail table for example. I don't use it to jump between headers as i have those turned off. I use cmd shift h then vo left to get to the headers section then

Re: Saving favourite links

2013-07-20 Thread Sarah k Alawami
vo plus u brings up the rotor not the address thing. according to key board help. I just looked and that's what it does, not reads the address. You are thinking vo shift u. According to key board help it reads the current address of the link you are on. Take care. On Jul 20, 2013, at 4:01

sarah on mail headers

2013-07-20 Thread Linda C. Knight
Sarah, What are the mail headers? Is that like the to: from: and all the stuff in the email? How do I turn off the mail headers? Or, would that be a benefit. (remember, I'm a novice. LOL! Hugs and 73 Linda C. Knight shirley CallSign: kk4hrg Please note email:

Re: sarah on mail headers

2013-07-20 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Mail headers are the 2, cc, subject and so forth. There are more then that, but I don't know how to read them and i've been using computers for about 20 or so years starting wihtt the apple 2e in 1987. Ok Im showing my age here but ah well. You might not need them unless you want to write

RE: sarah on mail headers

2013-07-20 Thread Linda C. Knight
I am using Microsoft windows right now. I will send a note from my mac in a bit to see how it looks. smile. Thank you so much for the method and I would love to hear your tutorial. Hugs and 73 Linda C. Knight shirley CallSign: kk4hrg Please note email: l...@tampabay.rr.com --- Mac Access