Re: Carbon apps on unix disk

2001-04-02 Thread Scott Anguish
On Monday, April 2, 2001, at 03:34 AM, John W Baxter wrote: > At 1:28 -0400 4/2/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I haven't yet seen any official recommendations on which >> type of partition to use, though. >> > > I have the distinct impression (whose source I don't remember...perhaps > Apple's J

Re: Re: Carbon apps on unix disk

2001-04-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, John W Baxter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > The case-sensitive file system would be one obvious point of conflict. That's an excellent point, and one which could very well be the cause of all the compatibility problems. I hadn't realized that with my mac-extended startu

Re: Carbon apps on unix disk

2001-04-02 Thread John W Baxter
At 1:28 -0400 4/2/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I haven't yet seen any official recommendations on which >type of partition to use, though. > I have the distinct impression (whose source I don't remember...perhaps Apple's John Cambra in his Mac OS X dog and pony show March 14 at (Seattle) dBUG, p

Re: Carbon apps on unix disk

2001-04-01 Thread Forest Dean Feighner
On Monday, April 2, 2001, at 01:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Just to put in my experience: > <...> > I haven't yet seen any official recommendations on which > type of partition to use, though. > > I believe that the recommendation is to use HFS+. I've just had better luck w/ UFS. Fore

Re: Carbon apps on unix disk

2001-04-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Just to put in my experience: (Using a G3 266 PB 128MB/4GB): I installed OSX twice using a Unix formatted partion, and OSX was extremely sluggish and practically useless. Attempting to run Classic mode (from another partition) resulted in a "can't mount this startup disk" error. I almost thr

Re: Carbon apps on unix disk

2001-04-01 Thread Ian Ragsdale
On 4/1/01 11:21 PM, "Bill Stephenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I thought maybe the problem is that they were "Carbonized Classic Mac OS" > applications and not truly Mac OS X "Native" apps and somehow depended on > the HFS file structure. As I said before, I thought it might be a stupid >

Re: Carbon apps on unix disk

2001-04-01 Thread Bill Stephenson
on 4/1/01 10:23 PM, Ian Ragsdale at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Pepper is definitely carbon - it runs on OS 9 as well. That's cool, I never tried to install it on OS 9. The Appleworks and Fetch installers worked fine when I did a standard OS X install with OS 9 preinstalled. When I reinstalled O

Re: Carbon apps on unix disk

2001-04-01 Thread Ian Ragsdale
Your definitions are correct, but carbon apps can come in two forms. If you are careful in writing your carbon app, and compile it in PEF format, it can run in OS 9 as well as OS X. If you compile into Mach-O, you can use some native services that you can't with PEF, and it will only run in OS X,

Re: Carbon apps on unix disk

2001-04-01 Thread Ken Williams
Apparently I need some clarification of terms. I thought these were the definitions: carbon: will run on OS X without needing the classic environment cocoa: uses a specific OS X application framework classic: will run under OS < 9, but not OS X So checking whether something is "carbon" shoul

Re: Carbon apps on unix disk

2001-04-01 Thread Ian Ragsdale
Pepper is definitely carbon - it runs on OS 9 as well. Ian On 4/1/01 8:48 PM, "Bill Stephenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > PhotoLine and Pepper both work well on either format, but they're not really > "Carbon" apps are they?

Re: Carbon apps on unix disk

2001-04-01 Thread Forest Dean Feighner
On Sunday, April 1, 2001, at 09:48 PM, Bill Stephenson wrote: > This is probably a stupid question but, do "Carbon" apps NOT run on OS > X if > the disk has been formatted for unix when OS X was installed? > NO, they should work just fine. Classic apps will need to on a HFS+ partition tho. >

Carbon apps on unix disk

2001-04-01 Thread Bill Stephenson
This is probably a stupid question but, do "Carbon" apps NOT run on OS X if the disk has been formatted for unix when OS X was installed? So far I have not abeen able to get either Appleworks or fetch to install since I reinstalled OS X with a unix disk format. Fetch complains that it can't inst