Command to Read Entire Document

2019-09-24 Thread Dave Carlson
Okay, I admit I was once told how to read from the current cursor position to the end of a document, but forgot. Can anyone toss me a keystroke combo? Dave Carlson Musician, Engineer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer -- The following information is important for all members of the

RE: iPad OS 13.1 release

2019-09-24 Thread Simon A Fogarty
No automatic updates was on, But I thought you still had to say yes to the update starting. Hell I could have done it and fallen asleep 2 seconds later. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Jürgen Fleger Sent: Wednesday, 25 September 2019 5:53 PM To: Visionaries Mac Visionaries

Re: iPad OS 13.1 release

2019-09-24 Thread Jürgen Fleger
Hmm. If automatic updates had been turned off I have no idea why that happened to your iPad. > Am 25.09.2019 um 07:50 schrieb Simon A Fogarty : > > Not on the ipad, > > At least not that I can remember, > > I’m positive it was running 12.4.1 before > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.

RE: iPad OS 13.1 release

2019-09-24 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Not on the ipad, At least not that I can remember, I’m positive it was running 12.4.1 before From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Jürgen Fleger Sent: Wednesday, 25 September 2019 4:30 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPad OS 13.1 release Same happened on my iP

RE: Text based resource for iOS 13 from a blindness perspective

2019-09-24 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi petrus, That’s really weird, I’ll have a play with it here and see what I find, Does it change at all if you turn your phone in to landscape mode rather than portrait From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings Sent: Wednesday, 25 September 2019 1:32 PM To: macvisi

Re: iPad OS 13.1 release

2019-09-24 Thread Jürgen Fleger
Same happened on my iPad. But I was a beta tester and so it might be because of this. Have you been a beta tester as well? Von meinem iPad Pro gesendet > Am 25.09.2019 um 01:37 schrieb Simon A Fogarty : > >  > Not sure but it turns out that when I opened my ipad smart keyboard this > mornin

Re: Text based resource for iOS 13 from a blindness perspective and voice dream

2019-09-24 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Okay, I had the reading now tab selected and the first book in the list was the IOS 13 one. I swiped across until I found the button labeled “more Actions” and double tapped on that. There was a share option in there and I swiped past the options to use air drop or email, or text and so on and f

Re: Text based resource for iOS 13 from a blindness perspective

2019-09-24 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Hi Simon, Nope, nothing I tried worked. Not sure why I always have so much trouble with the native books app on the iPhone. I know all of the navigation gestures like the two finger swipe and they all work fine when I’m reading emails, texts and Safari or any other application where one is read

Re: Text based resource for iOS 13 from a blindness perspective and voice dream

2019-09-24 Thread 'Candie Stiles' via MacVisionaries
I would like to know how you saved the book invoice dream as well. I tried doing that myself and couldn’t figure it out. Please let us know. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 24, 2019, at 7:23 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > >  > I have had decent luck with the Books app on my phone, although I don’t use

Re: Text based resource for iOS 13 from a blindness perspective and voice dream

2019-09-24 Thread Mary Otten
I have had decent luck with the Books app on my phone, although I don’t use it much, since these days, kindle books tend to be cheaper. But I do want to know how you saved that book to read an invoice dream. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 24, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote: > > Well

RE: Text based resource for iOS 13 from a blindness perspective

2019-09-24 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Petrus, You should need to change anything, I never have and it seems to work for me. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings Sent: Wednesday, 25 September 2019 9:23 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Text based resource for iOS 13 from a blindness

RE: Text based resource for iOS 13 from a blindness perspective

2019-09-24 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Petrus, What if you go back to the previous chapter or even page and then start reading forward again? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings Sent: Wednesday, 25 September 2019 8:08 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Text based resource for iOS 13

Re: Turning Off Quick Nav in Safari Form Fields

2019-09-24 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Very much like quicknav in JAWS / NVDA. H for headers G for graphics, f for text input fields, j for controls. Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn > On Sep 24, 2019, at 3:36 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote: > > how does single key navigation work? > >> On Sep 24, 2019, at 7:56 AM, John Pana

RE: Text based resource for iOS 13 from a blindness perspective

2019-09-24 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi petrus, There is a lets say tab for book marking the page your on, The page or book is in the next tab to the right if you swipe right. It should be headed at the title as what is new in ios 13. If you use your Table of contents to find the page wanting, and select that, Then go back to the

Re: For thos who don't wish to update to iOS 13 yet

2019-09-24 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Uh huh. (smiles) I just installed it and spend tomorrow with it. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/24/2019 4:38 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote: I haven’t had a chance to play with iPad OS yet but it c

RE: For thos who don't wish to update to iOS 13 yet

2019-09-24 Thread Simon A Fogarty
I haven’t had a chance to play with iPad OS yet but it can’t be to muchj difference to what it was surely, Someone would have leaked it if it was a major change. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg Sent: Wednesday, 25 September 2019 12:29 AM To: 'Tim Kilburn' via

RE: iPad OS 13.1 release

2019-09-24 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Not sure but it turns out that when I opened my ipad smart keyboard this morning it said it had done the install, I don’t remember telling it to do it, But that was after 10 am my time which is Wednesday 25th here. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Jürgen Fleger Sent: Wedne

Using voice control to enter a passcode

2019-09-24 Thread Mary Otten
I understand that voice control does not have the blind and visually impaired as its primary audience. However, a friend of mine has upgraded his phone and was playing around with voice control and rather likes it. This raised the question of whether it is possible to enter a passcode to open yo

Re: Text based resource for iOS 13 from a blindness perspective and voice dream

2019-09-24 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Well that is a bit sad. I managed to save the user guide for IOS 13 to voice dream reader. When one finds it easier to read a book published by Apple on a third party app as apposed to their own app it is a bit sad. But at least I can read it now. However I should feed the cat first before she

Re: Text based resource for iOS 13 from a blindness perspective

2019-09-24 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Well that wasn’t very successful either. I did the three finger swipe from right to left and it just carried on reading the same text that I know of by heart now as I’ve heard it so many times already. It made the correct noise for turning the page but it didn’t really work. I’m about to give up

Re: Text based resource for iOS 13 from a blindness perspective

2019-09-24 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Thanks I’ll try that next. I did look in the phone settings and found the books app. I opened that and under the reading heading it had a button labeled “full justification” and it was off. Should this be on?Auto hyphenation was on, and “both margins advance” was off. Do I need to change any o

Re: Text based resource for iOS 13 from a blindness perspective

2019-09-24 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, When focus is on the textual area, do a three-finger swipe from right to left like you were turning a page in a book. This will take you to the next page, and it will start reading that next page. Not a continuous thing, but at least should get you further along than you've been getting.

Re: Text based resource for iOS 13 from a blindness perspective

2019-09-24 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Sorry, done that too. The books app is totally hopeless fore reading text based books. It keeps freezing up and I just can not get it to read past the first page of whatever section I’m trying to read. I’ve even lost the button where I can check all the sections and choose one. Hopefully it’ll w

Re: Text based resource for iOS 13 from a blindness perspective

2019-09-24 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Try the two-finger swipe up then. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Jamf Certified Associate Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Sep 24, 2019, at 14:07, Petrus Tuerlings wrote: Yes, that is what I’m doing and it is only reading the first page of that sectio

Re: Text based resource for iOS 13 from a blindness perspective

2019-09-24 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Yes, that is what I’m doing and it is only reading the first page of that section and not reading any more. The books app is the only place I’ve ever had this problem. > On 25/09/2019, at 07:49, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > Once you're in the section where the actual

Re: Text based resource for iOS 13 from a blindness perspective

2019-09-24 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Once you're in the section where the actual text is, swipe down with two fingers. It should read that page, flip to the next and continue on. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Jamf Certified Associate Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Sep 24, 2019, at 13:4

Re: Text based resource for iOS 13 from a blindness perspective

2019-09-24 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Hi, This is going to sound silly as I must be doing something wrong. I like to think of myself as pretty good as far as using IOS and voice over on the iPhone. But I’ve always had trouble reading text based books in the books App. I downloaded the iPhone user guide for IOS 13 and found the parag

Re: Turning Off Quick Nav in Safari Form Fields

2019-09-24 Thread Lorie McCloud
how does single key navigation work? > On Sep 24, 2019, at 7:56 AM, John Panarese wrote: > > It’s probably that you turn the single key Quick Nav on or off as well. > VO-q will toggle the single key navigation. > > > Take Care > > John D. Panarese > Director > Mac for the Blind > Tel, (631

Re: Turning Off Quick Nav in Safari Form Fields

2019-09-24 Thread Dave Carlson
Jonathan, Yes, it’s very likely that my having single letter navigation turned on that is messing things up for me. Dave Carlson Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have

Re: IOS 13.1

2019-09-24 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Mine took about 30 to 40 minutes total from request to restart and use. Got lucky I guess. Later,.. Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Jamf Certified Associate Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Sep 24, 2019, at 13:22, Jonathan Cohn wrote: I just requested a downlo

IOS 13.1

2019-09-24 Thread Jonathan Cohn
I just requested a download of the new version. The phone says it will take two hours to download. So, probably worth waiting. Jonathan -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, o

VMWareFusion and USB issues.

2019-09-24 Thread Jonathan Cohn
I remember issues with the early Mohave came out where a terminal command was used to reset all permissions in the database for either all applications or a specific application. Perhaps we need to do this for 11.5 also? The command is tccutil reset followed by either an application name or “

Re: Turning Off Quick Nav in Safari Form Fields

2019-09-24 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Actually, in text fields if you interact with them, Quick Nav will turn off and then turn back on when you stop interacting. Give it a try! Jonathan > On Sep 24, 2019, at 12:01 AM, Lorie McCloud wrote: > > I do the very same thing all the time and it would be really nice if there > was a set

Re: VMWareFusion now ready for 10.15

2019-09-24 Thread maurice.mines
Hello so I try to install this and it’s not even running. What I did is downloaded the installer to the applications folder. Then I deleted the downloaded desk image from my drive. Should I have done this? Or should I read download this disk image copy the executable but leave the disk image o

Re: VMWareFusion now ready for 10.15

2019-09-24 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Let us know, Anders. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/24/2019 9:49 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! I don’t think so. Think it will be the same problem. /A 24 sep. 2019 kl. 16:45 skrev Pete De

Re: Text based resource for iOS 13 from a blindness perspective

2019-09-24 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Have you looked in the Apple Book Store. Apple has an iPhone user Guide for iOS 13. It would have all the VoiceOver stuff under the Accessibility section. These books are automatically updated as the iOS is updated. It is in the store now. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swi

Re: VMWareFusion now ready for 10.15

2019-09-24 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! I don’t think so. Think it will be the same problem. /A > 24 sep. 2019 kl. 16:45 skrev Pete De Vasto : > > I still had the DMG for VMWare 11.0.3, so I uninstalled 11.5 and went back to > the older version, and all is well again. I’m wondering if maybe you actually > have to have upgraded to

RE: Text based resource for iOS 13 from a blindness perspective

2019-09-24 Thread hemakarah
Hi Mary, I am also eagerly waiting for a written instruction material on IOS 13. Hope it comes soon! Take care, Hem. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: 24 September 2019 21:17 To: viph...@googlegroups.com; macvisionaries@googlegrou

Re: VMWareFusion now ready for 10.15

2019-09-24 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Oh Dear is this still an issue? I installed Vmware Fusion 11.1 a month ago and had a hell to get things up and running. I can’t remember how i did that but it worked until the evaluation period went out. Have you searched through all the vmware knowledgebase? /A > 24 sep. 2019 kl. 00:50 sk

Text based resource for iOS 13 from a blindness perspective

2019-09-24 Thread Mary Otten
I am one of those folks who vastly prefers text based resources for learning rather than Podcasts. I find that much more efficient, especially when it comes to needing to refer to something that you’ve already read and forgotten. So, I am wondering if there is going to be a text based resource t

Re: VMWareFusion now ready for 10.15

2019-09-24 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
I may also revert back to 11.1.1. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/24/2019 7:45 AM, Pete De Vasto wrote: I still had the DMG for VMWare 11.0.3, so I uninstalled 11.5 and went back to the older

Re: Turning Off Quick Nav in Safari Form Fields

2019-09-24 Thread John Panarese
OK. So single key navigation is part of Quick Nav. It can be adjusted independently.Quick Nav works specifically with the arrow keys and, with that Sid, rotor settings will effect the way the arrow keys work overall. Single key navigation is where you can use, for example, the letter h,

Re: Turning Off Quick Nav in Safari Form Fields

2019-09-24 Thread Dave Carlson
John, To make sure I understand, I should have either single key nav on, or quick nav on, but not both? Dave Carlson Musician, Engineer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer On Sep 24, 2019, at 05:56, John Panarese wrote: It’s probably that you turn the single key Quick Nav on or o

Re: VMWareFusion now ready for 10.15

2019-09-24 Thread Pete De Vasto
I still had the DMG for VMWare 11.0.3, so I uninstalled 11.5 and went back to the older version, and all is well again. I’m wondering if maybe you actually have to have upgraded to Catalina before the new VMWare will work. Pete De Vasto > On Sep 23, 2019, at 7:26 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote: >

Re: Turning Off Quick Nav in Safari Form Fields

2019-09-24 Thread Sandra Finley
John, ? I am Not sure how "single key navigation" relates to the issue at hand, which clearly indicates I don't know what it does. Can you explain? Thanks. > On Sep 24, 2019, at 8:56 AM, John Panarese wrote: > > It’s probably that you turn the single key Quick Nav on or off as well. >

Re: Turning Off Quick Nav in Safari Form Fields

2019-09-24 Thread John Panarese
It’s probably that you turn the single key Quick Nav on or off as well. VO-q will toggle the single key navigation. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESS

Re: For thos who don't wish to update to iOS 13 yet

2019-09-24 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! To be honest i don’t see the reason not to Update. But if people ar willing to take the security risks not to update then its their choice. /A > 22 sep. 2019 kl. 11:02 skrev 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > : > > Hi, > > Just seen this post on another group posted for those of us who

Re: iPad OS 13.1 release

2019-09-24 Thread Jürgen Fleger
Wasn’t it normally at 10 am east Pacific time like the Keynotes as wel? > Am 24.09.2019 um 14:01 schrieb Simon A Fogarty : > > Hi Lists, > > At what point on the 24th is the release of iPadOS 13.1 and I thought the IOS > 13.1 update to be released? > > I know there is a number of time zones

iPad OS 13.1 release

2019-09-24 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Lists, At what point on the 24th is the release of iPadOS 13.1 and I thought the IOS 13.1 update to be released? I know there is a number of time zones in the USA but all of them now should be in the 24th September Has anyone seen these production releases as yet? -- The following informat