I just bought it. I will let you know how it works.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
> wrote:
>
> Apparently the app is $100.
>
> CB
>
> Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the
> Blind, the nation’s leadin
Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina?
Chris
Mystic Access
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Phone: (716) 743-8244
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$100? Ouch.
On 9/19/14, Chris G wrote:
> Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina?
> Chris
>
> Mystic Access
> Where the magic is in learning.
> 733 Delaware Rd 341
> Buffalo, NY 14223
> Phone: (716) 743-8244
> web: www.mysticaccess.com
>
> Accessible Gadgets mailing list: > >
> http://l
Yep, I know.
Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration?
Gary
On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife wrote:
> $100? Ouch.
>
>
>
>
> On 9/19/14, Chris G wrote:
>> Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina?
>> Chris
>>
>> Mystic Access
>> Where the magic is in lear
It just works. I'm glad I bought it.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary wrote:
>
> Yep, I know.
>
> Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration?
>
> Gary
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife
>> wrote:
>>
>> $100? Ouch.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 9/
Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to
purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or
Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the
positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier?
Thank
Hi,
Here is a well done podcast on the KNFB Reader.
http://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/AppleVisPodcast600.mp3
Chris
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
733 Delaware Rd 341
Buffalo, NY 14223
Phone: (716) 743-8244
web: www.mysticaccess.com
Accessible Gadgets mailing l
I've only tried to read a couple of things. I'd let it read a guitar strings
package and it read just about everything on there that I could ever want it
too. I had it read a check and it read the check label, the description of the
pattern based on the fact that it was a check with kiss on it.
Donna,
I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per
cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of
numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up
and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never
Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days are through: or
just about anyhow. I never got such good results with the other OCR apps. Not
even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay. The KNFB
reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and
The interesting thing about all this is that according to the app itself, it
uses Abbyy Finereaders OCR engine and Textgrabber is actually very fast when it
comes to recognizing the text, but it's much harder to get a good result.
It makes me wonder how the IPhone app compares to the old Nokia ap
.
Best,
Eileen
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisette Wesseling
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 12:28 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
Donna,
I'm not Kevi
September 19, 2014 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
The interesting thing about all this is that according to the app itself, it
uses Abbyy Finereaders OCR engine and Textgrabber is actually very fast when
it comes to recognizing the text, but it's much harder to get a good resu
thanks for sharing this, Chris, it was quite informative. It's definitely
pricy, but a very slick app. I'm thinking I might go ahead an pick it up.
Cheers,
Donna
On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Chris G wrote:
> Hi,
> Here is a well done podcast on the KNFB Reader.
> http://www.applevis.com/sites/
Hi Lisette,
Wow, that's impressive. I think the podcast pretty much sold me, but your
report was the last straw. It's great to finally have an app that can give us
reliable OCR wherever we are. thanks for sharing your experience.
Best,
Donna
On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling
wr
That was amazing!!! I just downloaded it, and on the second try, I got a
nearly perfect scan of a page from a novel. Looking forward to trying it on
more complex documents, but right now I'd say it's well worth the money. For
us, especially, it's an incredibly useful thing to be able to do--a
@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
Hi Lisette,
Wow, that's impressive. I think the podcast pretty much sold me, but your
report was the last straw. It's great to finally have an app that can give
us reliable OCR wherever we are. thanks for sharing your experience.
Best,
Donna
Hi,
I just purchased it for use on my iPad mini with retna.
>From what I have done with it, it works great. However the main screen
seems to be slow at responding when swiping through. Note: not blaming
the KNFB Reader as I know it is an iPhone product running on my iPad
mini with retna.
Note, I
Best app I've ever purchased! I to believe that this works better then desktop
scanning programs. First day with it was today. First try at a restaurant
scored the entire menu perfectly
Pete
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>
> Frankly, I could not agree
Hi Pete
You may have answered this already, but I once tried the KNFB reader that a
friend had on his Windows phone. I couldn't get the thing to line up and I got
the worst text you ever saw. Obviously, you got it to line up with the
restaurant menu, and I'm really impressed about that. I have
; Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 8:55 PM
> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
>
>
> The interesting thing about all this is that according to the app itself, it
> uses Abbyy Finereaders OCR engine and Textgrabber is actually very fast when
> it comes to recognizing the text, b
; [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisette Wesseling
> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 12:28 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
>
> Donna,
> I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture
t; -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisette Wesseling
>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 12:28 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPh
HI!
ONE THING I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS HOW WOULD ONE KNOW WHERE AND HOW TO HOLD THE
CAMERA OVER a paper.
Anyone?
/A
19 sep 2014 kl. 16:28 skrev 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
:
> Apparently the app is $100.
>
> CB
>
> Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the
> B
Gigi,
I never used the old one, but I can tell you they have features built in to
help you line up the camera. First there's this feature called Field of View.
It essentially takes a test picture, and then tells you what edges of your
document it can see, left right, top bottom. You want to
bility. Will have to go look, but all the
>> other helpp may well yet be worth the cost.
>>
>> Rh.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Krister Ekstrom"
>> To:
>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 8:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: KN
See my last post. Basically, the app comes with features that give you very
good feedback while your positioning the camera.
Best,
Donna
On Sep 20, 2014, at 7:44 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
> HI!
> ONE THING I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS HOW WOULD ONE KNOW WHERE AND HOW TO HOLD THE
> CAMERA OVER a paper
I also bought the app after hearing the Applevis podcast and reading about the
results from others on the list. I had the opportunity to borrow a Nokia phone
with the old KNFB app 4 or 5 years ago and was only ever able to get a few
words from a page. I was able to sit at the kitchen table and
I've been using it on a variety of things and have found the app to be much
more reliable in terms of getting good pictures initially, than my attempts
with other OCR apps.
I'd like to pride myself on being able to take fairly good pictures for OCR
purposes but for some reason, I never had go
Hi
Have any iPhone 5 users experienced the phone shutting off when you have the
KNFB reader opened and on battery power? Mine has shut off at least three times
since I bought the app.
Matt Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670 ext. 3
Work ema
All right. Yes, it's all very wonderful
The question is: why? Why have all the other apps failed? What's the magic
sauce? You know me--well, you do now, anyway--that I'm not going to be happy
unless I've established that £69 was worth paying. I'm still not quite
convinced that it is, yet.
To my mind, there are several magic thingies.
First, field of view report. Pretty handy as you learn the right distance and
alignment for your pictures. Add the tilt sensor, so you can learn when your
phone is flat relative to your document.
Second, the KNFB people know that we're pretty lousy
Hi!
You all tempt me to buy it *lol*.
I atempt not to be tempted*lol*.
/A
19 sep 2014 kl. 22:21 skrev Donna Goodin :
> Hi Lisette,
>
> Wow, that's impressive. I think the podcast pretty much sold me, but your
> report was the last straw. It's great to finally have an app that can give
> us r
I'd agree with Buddy here.
I don't recall what resolution this is set to use but I know that I get vastly
better results on my flatbed scanner using a higher resolution and the time it
takes is imho negligible.
I have found things it won't read, very stylized labels, T-shirts and work
shirt
Hi Sabahattin,
I can only speak for myself on this. I think the secret sauce, as you
put it, is the laziness of the user. I have no doubt that, with a good
deal of effort, as well as with the possible assistance of sighted
friends/family, I could have learned to use Prizmo/text
grabber/whatever we
Well, I can certainly agree that assistive isn't always equal to overpriced,
and indeed I have owned the flatbed and now own the camera edition Sara, both
of which have worked quite well, and with mainstream OCR software and flatbed
scanners, really quite excellently. Anything to lower the cost
ptember 20, 2014 8:17 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
Hi
Have any iPhone 5 users experienced the phone shutting off when you have the
KNFB reader opened and on battery power? Mine has shut off at least three times
since I bought the app.
Matt Dierckens
I can tell you, as can other folks here, from personal experience, that the app
is bloody well worth it mate. I can't decide for you, that's something you
have to do for yourself. IF you get the app, and you feel like it isn't worth
it, Apple will refund the purchase price. Very easy and tota
Well, I am going to pile on big time. Buy it mate. You will not regret the
purchase. Best app I ever ever ever put on my iPhone 5!!! My flat bed
scanning days are through!!!
Sincerely,
the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
Sent from my Mac, the only computer
Not yet, but I only got the app yesterday.
Donna
On Sep 20, 2014, at 10:17 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote:
> Hi
> Have any iPhone 5 users experienced the phone shutting off when you have the
> KNFB reader opened and on battery power? Mine has shut off at least three
> times since I bought the app.
>
7 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
>
> Hi
> Have any iPhone 5 users experienced the phone shutting off when you have the
> KNFB reader opened and on battery power? Mine has shut off at least three
> times since I bought the ap
OS8 and have noticed
>> that my voiceover will turn off randomly. I restored my phone 2 hours ago.
>> Hopefully that problem doesn't persist.
>>
>> Regards, Feliciano
>> www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
>>
>> From: Matt Dierckens
>> Sent: Satu
They do more then just take a picture. They have algorithms that take
into account the user can't see the page, other OCR apps assume you can
see the page.
Also they can compensate for lighting as again, they assume the user
doesn't really know the kind of light that is around.
There was an applev
Hi there
Well lazy me did something else. I put my Mac on my lap and shut it, and then
sorted my Mail sitting in my recliner. I wasn't sure that was going to work but
it did work quite fine. I am finding the level indicator to be a lot more
helpful than the review function. Maybe it's just me si
GiGi, that’s the beauty of the tilt function. I’m usually fairly good at
balancing the phone but if I do more than one scan of something in the same
spot, such as just moving another piece of mail under it, I tend to tip the
phone.
The thing that confuses me at times is the clock face orientat
ne 2 hours ago.
>>> Hopefully that problem doesn't persist.
>>>
>>> Regards, Feliciano
>>> www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
>>>
>>> From: Matt Dierckens
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 8:17 AM
>>> To: macvisionarie
Hi!
So you have to have the phone or paper in the right clock direction.
It can't turn the page virtually in the app.
/A
20 sep 2014 kl. 23:03 skrev Jenine Stanley :
> GiGi, that’s the beauty of the tilt function. I’m usually fairly good at
> balancing the phone but if I do more than one scan of
ours ago.
>>>> Hopefully that problem doesn't persist.
>>>>
>>>> Regards, Feliciano
>>>> www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
>>>>
>>>> From: Matt Dierckens
>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 8:17 AM
&g
It can, but if you want best resultsuse the tools given.
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
733 Delaware Rd 341
Buffalo, NY 14223
Phone: (716) 743-8244
web: www.mysticaccess.com
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This is incorrect. It can of course flip the page right side up if it’s upside
down and so on, but of course it works best when you’re aligned the same way as
your document.
—
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: 814-860-3194
Mobile: 814-431-0962
Email: bu...@brannan.name
> On Sep 20, 20
I’ve had the phone turned up to 18 degrees off center and it’s worked just fine
so I think it really depends on the clarity of text.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com
On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
> Hi!
> So you have to have the phone or paper in the right clock d
Oh, it will definitely realign things in terms of recognition of direction.
One thing I’ve just tried is to export a file to DropBox for opening and it
simply goes back to the export menu.
I tried opening in different apps and it just goes back to the export menu.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke..
persist.
>>
>> Regards, Feliciano
>> www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
>>
>> From: Matt Dierckens
>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 8:17 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
>>
>> Hi
>>
Not to worry. Here's how you solve that. Bear in mind that this is a one'time
process and after that your export will work.
Assuming you already have a document you want to export, you need, at least,
for the first save, to select the KNFB file option. After that, you can export
to other for
>
>>> I don't have that app;but I do have the iphone5 with IOS8 and have noticed
>>> that my voiceover will turn off randomly. I restored my phone 2 hours ago.
>>> Hopefully that problem doesn't persist.
>>>
>>> Regards, Feliciano
>&
hat my voiceover will turn off randomly. I restored my phone 2 hours ago.
>>>> Hopefully that problem doesn't persist.
>>>>
>>>> Regards, Feliciano
>>>> www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
>>>>
>>>> From: Matt Dierckens
I'm trying to decide if I want to spend $100 for an app. That is kind of pricy.
On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> I can tell you, as can other folks here, from personal experience, that the
> app is bloody well worth it mate. I can't decide for you, that's something
> you have
Well, not to pile on, but, this is one case where free doesn't do much good for
many of us. However, it is, of course, your decision. Me, I reckon it's worth
it.
Sincerely,
the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full acc
Hi,
What they have done is that they have put the tilt guidance and the field view
report in the app so that we are supposed to better align our cameras with the
document and maybe they have done something with skewing and page correction so
that the app is more forgiving than the others that's
How do you folks do to take a picture of a vertical object for scanning? I
assume you can't use the tilt guidance very successfully and how will the field
view report work? As i understand it you shouldn't be supposed to be able to
take pictures of other things than those that lye on a desk top,
Well, Prizmo has some kind of guidance similar to the KNFB reader but it seems
to be unreliable at times and i don't think it has the tilt sensor. What if
that was built in? And another question on the same topic: The way we all, me
included skeptical as i am, rave about the KNFB reader, how muc
I’ve never found out what to turn and how, i lose edges when i turn and get
muscle ache from holding my hand in strange angles.:-) No, the clock
orientation thingy isn’t something i understand, but then i am a bear with a
very, very, vary little brain.
/Krister
> 21 sep 2014 kl. 00:07 skrev Jen
Hi Krister,
I'm not a developer, so make no evaluation whatsoever of how much work they had
to do to add the tilt guidance, field of view, and the anti-skewing stuff. I
still think the price was too high, but as Kevin wrote on Friday, it just
works. I know some people put a lot of time into l
Hi Krister,
If you hold the phone 8-10 inches (20-25 CM) above the document, making
sure the camera is centered above it, then you should get fairly
accurate results. This is where the field of view report, and the tilt
guidance come in extremely handy!
You don't need to turn your arm at awkwa
No problem. Your question makes perfect sense. You do not need to be perfect to
get great results! I have not used the guidance at the program offers but
holding the phone elbow length away from the paper gave great results
unfortunately I cannot compare it to the old app.
Pete
Sent from my
Hi!
Thanks.
I think i will give it a go.
/A
20 sep 2014 kl. 23:44 skrev Buddy Brannan :
> This is incorrect. It can of course flip the page right side up if it’s
> upside down and so on, but of course it works best when you’re aligned the
> same way as your document.
>
> —
> Buddy Brannan, KB5
Hi!
Don't worry.
My body is big but my brain is quite small.
/A
21 sep 2014 kl. 11:07 skrev Krister Ekstrom :
> I’ve never found out what to turn and how, i lose edges when i turn and get
> muscle ache from holding my hand in strange angles.:-) No, the clock
> orientation thingy isn’t something
Thanks for the answer, but it’s the orientation bit i don’t understand and
that’s why i twist my arm in awkward directions, I’m not sure of what the app
means by so and so many degrees in either direction, should i turn the phone or
only move it to the side? Sometimes it feels like whatever i do
I read the quick start manual. You should hold the phone in the same
orientation as the document you are scanning. I went into the
settings and landscape was off. I scanned a page of a book and held
my phone camera down with the phone in portrait position. It also
suggests that instead of the d
Is split finger tap the same as placing two fingers on the screen and only lift
one of the fingers while the other one is still on the screen and tap with the
one you lift?
Take care
21. sep. 2014 kl. 23:05 skrev Marianne Denning :
I read the quick start manual. You should hold the phone in
Oh wow, had no idea there finally was one available; how much do they want for
it?
On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Kevin Mattingly wrote:
> I just bought it. I will let you know how it works.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
> wrote:
>
Ok, sorry about my last message; still getting caught up on 2 days worth of
e-mail, and this one turned into a 72 message thread.
On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
wrote:
> Apparently the app is $100.
>
> CB
>
> Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The Natio
Yeah, I'd say that's a little steep, I think the least they could do if they're
going to charge that much, is offer a trial/lite version to test it out, that
way if we want to do more with it, we'll have to buy the full version of it,
instead of paying the $100 for it, only to find out it's not
They won't. Back in the summer, on Twitter, they said that Apple would not
allow trials of apps. While that's true, Apple does offer several mechanisms
for doing this. As soon as I and several others pointed these methods out to
them, they said doing a trial would be "confusing to our customers"
Text detective is crap. I made the mistake of buying it about 2 years ago, and
even with sighted help aiming the camera, it still didn't always read stuff
properly, and I didn't want something I was going to have to rely on someone to
help me possission the camera to read everything I needed to
Just out of curiosity, when it comes to reading things like food labels,
compared to both the omni and all these various apps we use to scan packages,
cans, etc how much of the info will the knfb reader app read, or does it depend
mostly on where you point the camera. I love how the omni reads
I agree with you about Text Detective. But, trust me, you can't go wrong with
the KNFB reader. Believe you me. I have tried to use the other apps and
gotten crap as a result. With the KNFB Reader, beautiful perfect accuracy. I
aint liiing.
Sincerely,
the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still
nks.
>
> Best,
> Eileen
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisette Wesseling
> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 12:28 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re
In 1990 Vocational Rehab and an associated State organization for unemployment
purchased the Kurzweil personal reader for me. That purchase and the
technology opened a door to employment for me. Since that experience, I would
recommend anything developed by Kurzweil. It worked then and it work
Hello everyone,
I'm just wondering if anyone has tried using the KNFB reader with a battery
something like the mophy juice pack attached? Is there a difference in using
it?
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 21, 2014, at 8:55 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote:
>
> In 1990 Vocational Rehab and an associat
Hi Doug,
I'm using the Mophie Juice Pack and KNFB Reader works fine with it. I don't
think this is related to the Pack at all, but I have noticed one performance
difference based on the podcast I heard. I am using a 5S with IOS7, latest
version. There is a two or three second delay when I do
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