Re: stability of the mac

2014-04-03 Thread David Chittenden
The fact is, learning any computer operating system environment is difficult and takes time. Windows only seems easy because it has already been learnt. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 3 Apr 2014, at 5:38, Jean Parker wr

Re: Stability of the Mac

2014-04-03 Thread mario navarro
oh man, you have absolutely right. is why apple gives more emphasis on accessibility for ios system. I myself have understood this a long time. best for everyone is buying an ios device and have the future in their hands. I'm selling my iMac to buy an iphone 5 S. exactly because I can do everyt

Re: Stability of the Mac

2014-04-02 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
The Stream 2 records in MP3 format now. Those play fine on the Mac. On Apr 1, 2014, at 11:40 PM, Kerri wrote: > the only thing I wish the mac would do--and this is no fault of the mac--is > have the ability to convert the notes from a victor reader stream so I don't > have to use humanWare comp

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2014-04-02 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I don't have a tablet as of yet. I am mainly an iPhone and an iMac user. > On 2 Apr 2014, at 07:15 pm, erik burggraaf wrote: > > I do this all the time with PDF MP3, Docx, and zip among other files. It's > very possible and highlyfunctional on both android and IOS. If you're having > trouble

Re: Stability of the Mac

2014-04-02 Thread Devin Prater
April 02, 2014 1:54 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Stability of the Mac > > I don't use muds, so that's not an issue for me, though I know this is > important to some people. I think someone was developing a mac client called > imud, but not sure wha

RE: Stability of the Mac

2014-04-02 Thread Myrna Votta
Subject: Re: Stability of the Mac Humanware should have developed a tool for the mac, or, better yet, it should have used mp3 in the first place instead of a nonstandard format. On Apr 1, 2014, at 11:40 PM, Kerri wrote: > the only thing I wish the mac would do--and this is no fault of the mac-

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2014-04-02 Thread Chris Apple boy
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 1:54 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Stability of the Mac I don't use muds, so that's not an issue for me, though I know this is important to some people. I think someone was developing a mac client called imud, but not sure what happened

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2014-04-02 Thread BBS
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 1:54 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Stability of the Mac I don't use muds, so that's not an issue for me, though I know this is important to some people. I think s

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2014-04-02 Thread Mike Arrigo
I don't use muds, so that's not an issue for me, though I know this is important to some people. I think someone was developing a mac client called imud, but not sure what happened to it. Original message: Hmm, everything? Have you found a MUD client of the likes of Mush-z, that is free? Also,

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2014-04-02 Thread erik burggraaf
I do this all the time with PDF MP3, Docx, and zip among other files. It's very possible and highlyfunctional on both android and IOS. If you're having trouble with this, post in a separate thread with the tablet device you're using and I will help you out. Best, Erik Burggraaf Ebony Consul

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2014-04-02 Thread erik burggraaf
If you have the feature pack for the stream you can record your notes in wave or mp3 and simply copy and paste them. Erik Burggraaf Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2014-04-02, at 12:40 AM, Kerri wrote: > the only thing I wish the mac

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2014-04-02 Thread erik burggraaf
I Gree. WHy not spend 30-50 bucks for a nice voice and give them NVDA? Best, Erik Burggraaf Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2014-04-01, at 11:28 PM, Devin Prater wrote: > That's horrible. Why in the world, Window-eyes? I'd put that

stability of the mac

2014-04-02 Thread Jean Parker
Hello to the person who is thinking of making the switch to mac: I did this about a year ago and here are my thoughts. First of all, the reason I switched was similar to that of other people, my PC became inoperable one to many times and it was at a time when I was to have begun an online teachi

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2014-04-02 Thread josh gregory
The one thing I will say mac has going for it among its many advantages, is the ability to walk up to any mac and it just works. Amazing as long as it has 10.4 or above which most do nowadays. A little different with the iMac as I've just experienced (from the laptop prospective) but definitely doa

Re: Stability of the Mac

2014-04-02 Thread Phil Halton
That's my opinion as well, I still make extensive use of spreadsheet and word processing applications beyond the basic uses and that's just not possible with numbers or pages on the IOS platforms. On Apr 2, 2014, at 1:35 AM, Maria and Joe Chapman wrote: > Hi. I find that an iPhone or iPad d

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2014-04-02 Thread Josh Gregory
Do not believe that it is up to par with desktop solutions as far as office things go, you probably won't be doing any fancy graphics or tables or transitions on a smart phone. At least not any of the high-end stuff. And that isn't even considering accessibility as of yet Sent from my iPhone >

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2014-04-02 Thread erik burggraaf
Agreed, High end audio, video and gravhic editing still require a desktop solution. Although, the average consumer can do work that looks farely pro on a smartphone. Data storage still requires a desktop solution although I am waiting for tonido to be released for raspbian. Then I can use a

Re: Stability of the Mac

2014-04-02 Thread Josh Gregory
The point I was going to make, which I guess doesn't make any sense now… Is that if it were a standard format you could use something like music converter Pro to convert it. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 2, 2014, at 12:50 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > Humanware should have developed a tool for t

Re: Stability of the Mac

2014-04-02 Thread Josh Gregory
That's true, I can definitely see your point there, and something I admit I didn't really think of. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:53 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > > Yes, but there are some folks who could get by with an IOS device only. If > you do wanted BARD, email, and the abili

Re: Stability of the Mac

2014-04-02 Thread Devin Prater
Hmm, everything? Have you found a MUD client of the likes of Mush-z, that is free? Also, there are very few games for the blind on mac, although I must honestly say I don't play many games on Windows anyway, lol. Sent from my iPod > On Apr 1, 2014, at 23:31, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > Yes, you c

Re: Stability of the Mac

2014-04-01 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
You all forget that you can't download files using a tablet, i.e. some software from a website that some one has sent you a link. Kawal. On 2 Apr 2014, at 06:35, Maria and Joe Chapman wrote: > Hi. I find that an iPhone or iPad doesn't quite meet my needs. I still use > a macbook primarily wh

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2014-04-01 Thread Maria and Joe Chapman
HI. hack run also works on the mac. also the inquisitor and blind side these are also available as iPhone apps. hope this helps Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 2 Apr 2014, at 8:17 am, Chris Apple boy wrote: > Actually there are a few audio games now for Mac Os X, namely a c

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2014-04-01 Thread Maria and Joe Chapman
Hi. I find that an iPhone or iPad doesn't quite meet my needs. I still use a macbook primarily when I am at home. There are still things like advanced word processing that are kind of difficult on a tablet or smart phone. that's just my opinion though. Blessings! maria and Joe chapman Email, i

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2014-04-01 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Erik, I have to say I absolutely agree with you there. I've been considering leaving the desktop computer behind as well. I'll run my ancient 2009 Mac Mini into the ground and then consider getting an iPad or even using my iPod until I have the money to buy another device. Teresa Teresa C

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2014-04-01 Thread Mike Arrigo
Humanware should have developed a tool for the mac, or, better yet, it should have used mp3 in the first place instead of a nonstandard format. On Apr 1, 2014, at 11:40 PM, Kerri wrote: > the only thing I wish the mac would do--and this is no fault of the mac--is > have the ability to convert t

Re: Stability of the Mac

2014-04-01 Thread Kerri
the only thing I wish the mac would do--and this is no fault of the mac--is have the ability to convert the notes from a victor reader stream so I don't have to use humanWare companion. On Apr 1, 2014, at 9:31 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Yes, you can even reinstall your operating system complet

Re: Stability of the Mac

2014-04-01 Thread Mike Arrigo
Yes, you can even reinstall your operating system completely without sighted help, this is something windows does not provide. If someone offered me a windows PC for free, I would say, thanks, but no thanks. the mac does everything I need, and does it better than windows. On Apr 1, 2014, at 4:23

Re: Stability of the Mac

2014-04-01 Thread Devin Prater
That's horrible. Why in the world, Window-eyes? I'd put that below System Access even, although Wineyes does work with, Thurderbird at least. But still, giving us computers without training is like giving us cars. Sent from my iPod > On Apr 1, 2014, at 21:53, Eugenia Firth wrote: > > Yes, bu

Re: Stability of the Mac

2014-04-01 Thread Eugenia Firth
Yes, but there are some folks who could get by with an IOS device only. If you do wanted BARD, email, and the ability to write text files, you could very easily just use your iPhone, maybe with a keyboard. I know a blind gal right now that, if she got a computer, would be better off with an iPho

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2014-04-01 Thread Josh Gregory
Hi, If I may, and no disrespect, but a computer is still needed for some things that a tablet or smart phone cannot currently do. Having said that, I will give you that these devices can do a heck of a lot more than they could several years ago. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 1, 2014, at 9:12 PM

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2014-04-01 Thread erik burggraaf
I find my mac more stable than pc's although I so seldome use a pc these days and the ones I do use are tweaked down so they perform really well. I've been using a mack for 6 years now and have no reason to prefer a PC these days. Having said that, this will be my last ever mac. When it is rea

Re: Stability of the Mac

2014-04-01 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi guys I switched from Windows because of the reasons mentioned already, and now I know who did it, whether it's good or bad. There's a lot to be said for that. The other thing is, we have no guarantees that any company will be around forever for us. Look at what's going on these days. We have

Re: Stability of the Mac

2014-04-01 Thread Kerri
me either but I trust no one at this juncture! *** "Thousands of years ago, cats were worshiped as gods. They have never forgotten this." On Apr 1, 2014, at 4:22 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > I think and hope that Apple remains more committed to accessibility. I > haven't se

Re: Stability of the Mac

2014-04-01 Thread Kristeen Hughes
I think and hope that Apple remains more committed to accessibility. I haven't seen any indication that they are not. Kristeen On Apr 1, 2014, at 6:54 PM, Kerri wrote: > Hi, Kristeen: > I must agree other than the fact that I didn't work for microsoft. the > only issue I see is that if

Re: Stability of the Mac

2014-04-01 Thread Kerri
Hi, Kristeen: I must agree other than the fact that I didn't work for microsoft. the only issue I see is that if apple ever decides to no longer support voice over, we're sunk! On Apr 1, 2014, at 12:21 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > Jenine, I can basically echo what you say. I was a win

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2014-04-01 Thread Matt Dierckens
The mac is very stable. One of the nice things about it is you can set up your mac and have it speak. When installing windows in a virtual machine the other day, it took an hour and a half to almost 2 hours to install, and with no speech or sighted help around, I just had to hope and pray that i

Re: Stability of the Mac

2014-04-01 Thread Kerri
Hello. I still have a windows 7 pc (I mainly use it to convert my victor reader stream notes) and can honestly say the Mac isn't nearly as problematic though like someone else posted, I do have to unload and reload Voice over sometimes. However, it's faster to unload voice over than it was to un

Re: Stability of the Mac

2014-04-01 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hello. I at work have to use windows where as at home I use my I Mac. At work, although I have a new PC, it crashes throughout the day leaving me with no JAWS. I have never experienced crashes of that nature on my Mac but it doesn't help that I have to use Windows at work as I can't just concen

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2014-04-01 Thread Josh Gregory
That's true, didn't think of that. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 1, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Chris Apple boy wrote: > > Actually there are a few audio games now for Mac Os X, namely a couple by the > good old Draconis Entertainment, others may exist as well which I do not know > about. > > Regards C

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2014-04-01 Thread Mike Arrigo
I find the mac to be very stable, certainly far less problems than with windows. It's not perfect, no platform is, but I have 3 macs and have no desire to switch back to a PC. Original message: Hi Everyone, As I said previously, I am thinking about getting a Mac and the main reason is that

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2014-04-01 Thread Andrew Lamanche
All I have to say is that Mac is much much more stable than Windows with a screen reader. If things go wrong, I rarely feel I'm out of control. I am very rarely left in the middle of doing something without speech whereas on Windows it was and still is a frequent occurrence. I feel much more in

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2014-04-01 Thread Chris Apple boy
Actually there are a few audio games now for Mac Os X, namely a couple by the good old Draconis Entertainment, others may exist as well which I do not know about. Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! On 01/04/2014 16:59, Josh Gregory wrote: Yes, the Mac seems to b

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2014-04-01 Thread Chris Apple boy
I like how VoiceOver says busy when an app is truly busy. This allows me to wait patiently and calmly dare I say unlike the Windows platform where I can either lose speech or the whole OS altogether. Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! On 01/04/2014 17:29, Alex Ha

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2014-04-01 Thread Chris Apple boy
I forgot to mention this and it is amazing. No other platform other than some flavours of Linux provides a talking installer out of the box, and even then you must ensure sound is properly working. Not the case with Mac Os as it just works. Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room wit

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2014-04-01 Thread matthew Dyer
Hi Scott, I have been using a mac for several years now and I find it to be much more stable then windows. I can tello you that mac osx is a different animal when it comes to interacting with it, but works and being that you can reinstall the os without sited help makes it all worth while. M

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2014-04-01 Thread Kristeen Hughes
Jenine, I can basically echo what you say. I was a windows user from the windows 95 os. In fact, I worked for Microsoft for three years and so had to believe in something that provided me with my bread and butter, and of course, chocolate. (grin) However, I could crash any windows system with gr

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2014-04-01 Thread Jenine Stanley
This is an interesting question. From just an average user point of view, I have been using my MacBook Pro since early February and use a Windows laptop for work. They literally sit side by side on my desk. I had used the iPhone since 2011 so was sort of familiar with how VoiceOver works and l

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2014-04-01 Thread Teresa Cochran
I play a game that requires me to disable Voiceover and then reload it when I'm finished. Most of the time, everything works as planned. Sometimes, there are odd malfunctions, and I just reload Voiceover. I restart my computer about twice a month. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On

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2014-04-01 Thread Scott Rumery
Hello Scott, You will probably get a lot of varying opinions on this topic so you will have to decide which ones you will take seriously or not. Having said this let me first tell you that ever since I switched to using a Mac more than 3 years ago I have become probably one of the biggest Apple

Re: Stability of the Mac

2014-04-01 Thread Kerri
Hi, I too have found mac extremely stable but have had the od crash or two, On Apr 1, 2014, at 8:51 AM, alberto wrote: > Hi, I personally find the mac platform extremely stable. I haven't had a > single app crash on me to the point where it crashed the whole system all > crash's were contain

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2014-04-01 Thread Rich Ring
Just to show you how stable the Mack is, the last time I restarted my Mack was two weeks ago, I do find that I have to unload VoiceOver sometimes, but not often! You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Apr

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2014-04-01 Thread isaac
Yes the mac is very stable. On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Scott Duck wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > As I said previously, I am thinking about getting a Mac and the main reason > is that I am tired of the increasing instability of the PC environment. My > first question is, is this really different

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2014-04-01 Thread Alex Hall
I usually go one to three weeks between restarts on my Mac. Apps that are doing something or stop working don't affect the system, and Voiceover will kindly inform you that the app is 'busy" instead of locking up. Other apps work fine even when one goes nuts, so you can force quit it or wait for

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2014-04-01 Thread Chris Apple boy
Hi I think you'll find the mac more stable than Windows in several ways. First VoiceOver is integrated into the operating system known as Os X. Second Os X is unix-based so never mind more stable but more secure too and certainly less prone to viruses etc etc. Stability overall is about the sa

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2014-04-01 Thread Josh Gregory
Yes, the Mac seems to be a lot more stable. I don't know if it was the laptop I had or what, but every time you would have to reboot it, you weren't sure if it would come back. Not going to really go into that but let's just say it didn't work a lot of the time. And as long as you're not into au

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2014-04-01 Thread Kaare Dehard
Hi, Scott. My personal experience with the mac has definitely been more positive than recent windows/jaws experiences. Having said that, for my work, I am still a windows user, and it has specifically to do with the work environment and it's requirements. I did get malware on my mac so that can

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2014-04-01 Thread alberto
Hi, I personally find the mac platform extremely stable. I haven't had a single app crash on me to the point where it crashed the whole system all crash's were contained within the app itself. As for an added bonus in my opinion you don't have to pay those jaws fees with voice over since it a

Stability of the Mac

2014-04-01 Thread Scott Duck
Hi Everyone, As I said previously, I am thinking about getting a Mac and the main reason is that I am tired of the increasing instability of the PC environment. My first question is, is this really different on a Mac? I am using JAWS 15 with Windows 8. Both are not all that stable. I hav