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2019-03-26 Thread 'Dan' via MacVisionaries
Hello List, Between ExpressVpn and NordVpn, which offers the most complete VO accessibility for both OS X and iOS TIA. Dan -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you

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2017-04-12 Thread wayne
hello, have you tried tunnel bear i hear it is cheap and very good On 4/11/2017 11:47 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: that might work. However, I need an inexpensive source for that device. I have a couple of source companies I can go to, but they aren't at all cheap and my budget being wha

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2017-04-12 Thread Donna Goodin
Lol! Sorry, yes. Still working on first cup of coffee. > On Apr 12, 2017, at 8:44 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > > I think you mean gigabit. > > But yes that’s right. At that point I’d look at something higher end because > that’s a very fast connection and you need a nice healthy forwarding

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2017-04-12 Thread Scott Granados
I think you mean gigabit. But yes that’s right. At that point I’d look at something higher end because that’s a very fast connection and you need a nice healthy forwarding rate to handle that and get your money’s worth. > On Apr 12, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Thanks, Scott, th

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2017-04-12 Thread Donna Goodin
Thanks, Scott, that's good to know. With our new ISP we have a fiber connection, and thus the option of upgrading to 1 terabyte, so it sounds like if we decide to go for that, we'll want a new router. Cheers, Donna > On Apr 12, 2017, at 8:39 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > > It tops out at forwar

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2017-04-12 Thread Scott Granados
It tops out at forwarding around 200 megabits so if you have a 500 megabit connection for example like I do then you can only use 40% of what’s available roughly. I also notice it has a hard time when you go over 30 WiFi devices. Not that it falls over but that’s a lot to share with the way th

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2017-04-12 Thread Donna Goodin
This brings another question to mind. What is the fastest speed supported by the Extreme? Cheers, Donna > On Apr 12, 2017, at 8:10 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > > I don’t think the airport extreme represents a security problem. It’s pretty > well built and for that matter a pretty simple device

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2017-04-12 Thread Scott Granados
I don’t think the airport extreme represents a security problem. It’s pretty well built and for that matter a pretty simple device. The cryptography on the wireless side is as good as anyone else from what I understand. I wouldn’t look at it like a security concern. What’s going to make you

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2017-04-12 Thread Scott Granados
t; -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Berwick > Sent: Wednesday, 12 April 2017 2:07 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: VPN questions > > This thread is very fascinating

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2017-04-12 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! How long will it still be possible to use the airport extreme as a router before things become unsecure? I know this can be a little complicated to answer but since i’m not planning to give away this beast for a while i ask anyway. /A > 11 apr. 2017 kl. 16:45 skrev Scott Granados : > > Donna

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2017-04-12 Thread Simon Fogarty
, 12 April 2017 3:46 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VPN questions actually, if you just add the frequency range numbers as part of the SSID name (in my case: FUBAR-2.4 or FUBAR-5.0) it will allow you to differentiate the two very easily. -eric On Apr 11, 2017, at 7:06 AM

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2017-04-12 Thread Simon Fogarty
if someone really wants to. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Berwick Sent: Wednesday, 12 April 2017 2:07 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VPN questions This thread is very fascinating

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2017-04-11 Thread E.T.
Ahhh, yes, guess my fingers were not tuned in today. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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2017-04-11 Thread Scott Granados
Ah good pointer to use the trackpad I’ll try this myself, thanks for updating the thread with this, good idea. > On Apr 11, 2017, at 3:27 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote: > > Okay, I went to Wifi with my Voiceover curser and then used VO + command + > [f5] and then held option while I pressed my Track

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2017-04-11 Thread Scott Granados
Open the WiFi menu first then move over to Bluetooth with it open, if the menus are open I think your regular keys work, they do here. I’ll do the move again to make sure I didn’t miss any commands. Just tested again, works as advertised. Insure the menu is open. > On Apr 11, 2017, at 1:46 P

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2017-04-11 Thread Scott Granados
I thought that worked all the way back through the various cats.:) You might not get as much data that’s a long way back for me to remember. > On Apr 11, 2017, at 1:10 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > > well, > I tried the direction you gave here, unfortunately, I didn't get the expected > results. It w

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2017-04-11 Thread Scott Granados
But that defeats band steering or automatic band selection and optimization. You can do that if you want manual control but it’s not advisable if you want the full feature set. > On Apr 11, 2017, at 11:46 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: > > actually, if you just add the frequency range numbers as part of

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2017-04-11 Thread Jeff Berwick
Okay, I went to Wifi with my Voiceover curser and then used VO + command + [f5] and then held option while I pressed my Track pad….This worked. Thx, Jeff > On Apr 11, 2017, at 3:04 PM, E.T. wrote: > > Hmmm, it must have been a fluke for I cannot do it now. Do you have a > mouse? If so you c

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2017-04-11 Thread E.T.
Hmmm, it must have been a fluke for I cannot do it now. Do you have a mouse? If so you can option click on Wifi. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say

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2017-04-11 Thread Jeff Berwick
When I hold it a bit longer, I hear “Cancel WIFI” when I release the keys. Jeff > On Apr 11, 2017, at 2:44 PM, E.T. wrote: > > Jeff, > Activate Wifi as usual with VO-Space but hold it a bit longer than usual. > You will get the extended information. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . > "God for

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2017-04-11 Thread E.T.
Jeff, Activate Wifi as usual with VO-Space but hold it a bit longer than usual. You will get the extended information. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off

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2017-04-11 Thread Jeff Berwick
Is there another way to get this information? It seems I need to use my VO curser to move across the extras menu—although I remember it didn’t always used to be this way. At any rate, I can’t make your keystroke work. :-( Jeff > On Apr 11, 2017, at 10:22 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > > Grea

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2017-04-11 Thread Eric Oyen
well, I tried the direction you gave here, unfortunately, I didn't get the expected results. It would do this in bluetooth, but not in WiFi. It could be that I am also on OS X Lion (its old, I know, but its the only mac I have). -eric On Apr 11, 2017, at 7:22 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > Great

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2017-04-11 Thread Eric Oyen
that might work. However, I need an inexpensive source for that device. I have a couple of source companies I can go to, but they aren't at all cheap and my budget being what it is won't allow for expensive toys. -eric On Apr 11, 2017, at 7:15 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > So when I did this I w

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2017-04-11 Thread Eric Oyen
actually, if you just add the frequency range numbers as part of the SSID name (in my case: FUBAR-2.4 or FUBAR-5.0) it will allow you to differentiate the two very easily. -eric On Apr 11, 2017, at 7:06 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote: > This thread is very fascinating and mostly over my head, but I ha

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2017-04-11 Thread Donna Goodin
It does. Not sure when we're going to replace our Extreme, but when we do, I'll take a look at both these. Cheers, Donna > On Apr 11, 2017, at 9:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > > Donna, depends on a lot of factors like size of the area you want to cover, > features you want, dollars you want to

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2017-04-11 Thread Scott Granados
Donna, depends on a lot of factors like size of the area you want to cover, features you want, dollars you want to spend etc. But here’s a rough idea. If you want for general use over a fixed area Netgear has some good products. I use a higher end R8500 that’s very fast, has 8 antennas and doe

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2017-04-11 Thread Donna Goodin
So, a follow-up question. We're still using our Airport Extreme, but since Apple has gotten out of that biz, it seems unlikely that these newer features will be supported. Any recommendations for a replacement router? Donna > On Apr 11, 2017, at 9:28 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > > Glad to be

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2017-04-11 Thread Scott Granados
Glad to be of help. There’s a lot of features on these modern routers and it’s important to set them right not only for performance but so you don’t impact your neighbors and of course so you’re secure. Home use is pretty simple but a lot of this comes in to play on more complex networks with

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2017-04-11 Thread Scott Granados
Great question, on your Mac if you’re using a Mac press vo m twice and highlight your WiFi settings, then arrow once left to the object left of WiFi and hold down the option key (one left of command) and arrow right to WiFi. Holding down option while opening WiFi yields a lot more information

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2017-04-11 Thread Donna Goodin
Hey Scott, Thanks so much for taking the time to write this. I've always found this stuff to be a bit over my head, and this is the best explanation I've ever seen. Cheers, Donna > On Apr 11, 2017, at 8:12 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > > OK a few things that are incorrect here but it might just

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2017-04-11 Thread Scott Granados
So when I did this I went with the first configuration. I ran Power over Ethernet up to the access points and ran the hardware inside enclosures. I was operating on a commercial tower though so had more of a budget to work with. What about a hybrid approach. Put your routers and the front end

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2017-04-11 Thread Jeff Berwick
This thread is very fascinating and mostly over my head, but I have done as you suggested and changed the name of my 5GHZ band to be the same as my 2.4GHZ. Now, if you don’t mind answering what may be a dumb question, how do I now know whether I’m connecting to the 5 or the 2.4 band? Is there

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2017-04-11 Thread Eric Oyen
s see, but my networks always at the top of my >>> list. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados >>> Sent: Monday, 10 April 2017 12:25

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2017-04-11 Thread Eric Oyen
yep, I will have to take a closer look at some of the settings then. the current router is capable of 5 Ghz operation, however, getting an external antenna setup for that band is problematic at best (any length of coax is going to be very lossy and also extremely expensive. At this point, such a

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2017-04-11 Thread Scott Granados
rom: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. >> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 7:56 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: VPN questions >> >> Ok, good. Another David said that PIA did not g

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2017-04-11 Thread Eric Oyen
us. > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 7:56 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: VPN questions > >Ok, good. Another Dav

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2017-04-11 Thread Scott Granados
7 4:23 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: VPN questions > > Put the antenna on your roof on a mast like a television antenna mast. > > I don’t know about there but here in the states laws protect your right to do > this. If you’re a ham radio operator you have e

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2017-04-11 Thread Scott Granados
00M down the street, >> >> Can't say what the neighbours see, but my networks always at the top of my >> list. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados >&

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2017-04-11 Thread Scott Granados
OK a few things that are incorrect here but it might just be a difference in terminology. So Incorrect may be a bit strong. It’s probably the guy on this side of the keyboard.:) PSK or pre shared key s plenty secure assuming you have a good key. Your only option is to use a radius server and

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2017-04-11 Thread David Chittenden
> Sent: Tuesday, 11 April 2017 8:56 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: VPN questions > > I use BetterNet and VPN Unlimited. BetterNet has better accessibility with > iOS VoiceOver. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >

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2017-04-11 Thread David Chittenden
I only use it on iOS. Kind regards, David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +61 488 988 936 Sent from my iPhone > On 11/04/2017, at 15:40, Eric Oyen wrote: > > well, > there are other access points around the neighborhood, although none of them > are within close ran

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2017-04-10 Thread David Diamond
line. However, PIA works fine with my IPhone 6S plus. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 7:56 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VPN questions Ok, good

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2017-04-10 Thread Simon Fogarty
What's the cost with Better net please David? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden Sent: Tuesday, 11 April 2017 8:56 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VPN questions

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2017-04-10 Thread Simon Fogarty
aries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Tuesday, 11 April 2017 4:23 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VPN questions Put the antenna on your roof on a mast like a television antenna mast. I don’t know about there but here in the states laws protect your right

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2017-04-10 Thread Eric Oyen
10 April 2017 12:25 PM > To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via > Subject: Re: VPN questions > > So if you hide from your neighbors then your router can’t avoid your networks > around you’s interference nearly as effectively. > > If everybody is broadcasting then there are s

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2017-04-10 Thread Eric Oyen
well, there are other access points around the neighborhood, although none of them are within close range (signal strengths less than 30%) and mine is only a single device in the house. Also, most ordinary users are appliance users, which means their knowledge will not be sufficient enough to d

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2017-04-10 Thread E.T.
ooglegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, 10 April 2017 10:00 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VPN questions Simon, I’ve gotten 50 miles point to point with Ubiquiti gear.;) Here’s another pointer though, I found a place to get 25 watt 2.4 and 5 GHZ bidirectional

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2017-04-10 Thread David Chittenden
; without upsetting the neighbours or council by laws, >>>>>> >>>>>> I do wonder if the houses and multistory buildings between my place and >>>>>> the office might be the signal issue, >>>>>> >>>>>> Problem is

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2017-04-10 Thread David Diamond
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VPN questions I use BetterNet and VPN Unlimited. BetterNet has better accessibility with iOS VoiceOver. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 11/04/2017, at 04:33, E.T. wr

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2017-04-10 Thread E.T.
roups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, 10 April 2017 10:00 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VPN questions Simon, I’ve gotten 50 miles point to point with Ubiquiti gear.;) Here’s another pointer though, I found a place to get 25

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2017-04-10 Thread David Chittenden
k them over so that >>>> leaves putting the antenna on the neighbours end of the property by the >>>> street, >>>> >>>> >>>> Guess I'll keep trying, >>>> >>>> They told me this gear woul

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2017-04-10 Thread E.T.
Scott Granados Sent: Monday, 10 April 2017 10:00 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VPN questions Simon, I’ve gotten 50 miles point to point with Ubiquiti gear.;) Here’s another pointer though, I found a place to get 25 watt 2.4 and 5 GHZ bidirectional amplifiers / preamps. I’m t

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2017-04-10 Thread Scott Granados
t; >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados >> Sent: Monday, 10 April 2017 10:00 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: VPN questions >> >&

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2017-04-10 Thread Scott Granados
lf Of Scott Granados > Sent: Monday, 10 April 2017 10:00 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: VPN questions > > Simon, I’ve gotten 50 miles point to point with Ubiquiti gear.;) > > Here’s another pointer though, I found a place to get 25 watt 2.4 and 5 GHZ

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2017-04-10 Thread E.T.
iginal Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, 10 April 2017 10:00 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VPN questions Simon, I’ve gotten 50 miles point to point with Ubiquiti gear.;) Here’s

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2017-04-10 Thread Simon Fogarty
Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, 10 April 2017 10:00 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VPN questions Simon, I’ve gotten 50 miles point to point with Ubiquiti gear.;) Here’s another pointer though, I found a place to get 25 watt 2.4 and 5 GHZ bidirectional amplifiers / p

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2017-04-10 Thread Scott Granados
ent: Monday, 10 April 2017 12:25 PM > To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via > Subject: Re: VPN questions > > So if you hide from your neighbors then your router can’t avoid your networks > around you’s interference nearly as effectively. > > If everybody is broadcastin

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2017-04-10 Thread Simon Fogarty
27;Chris Blouch' via Subject: Re: VPN questions So if you hide from your neighbors then your router can’t avoid your networks around you’s interference nearly as effectively. If everybody is broadcasting then there are scheduling systems that kick in that avoid collisions. If every body isn

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2017-04-09 Thread Scott Granados
That’s not my point though. My point is even with out putting in your particulars I can still pull that information out of the air with out having to enter anything. The SSID is also used for avoiding interference. The networks are really indicated with their MAC addresses so your access poin

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2017-04-09 Thread Eric Oyen
well, when I turned off SSID broadcast, it was a little harder to get new devices to connect. basically, it takes inputting the SSID and other particulars manually. once connected, there is no trouble. -eric On Apr 9, 2017, at 3:54 PM, E.T. wrote: > Interesting discussion. Much food for thou

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2017-04-09 Thread Scott Granados
Ok, so you don’t have to go that nuts to secure your WiFi but you’ve found something that’s very important to point out. Dollars to Donuts I’m betting you had WPS (WiFi Protected Setup) enabled. What this does is provides a mechanism for machines to join your network either by each end simulta

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2017-04-09 Thread Scott Granados
So if you hide from your neighbors then your router can’t avoid your networks around you’s interference nearly as effectively. If everybody is broadcasting then there are scheduling systems that kick in that avoid collisions. If every body isn’t then you’ll slam in to their network traffic and

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2017-04-09 Thread E.T.
Interesting discussion. Much food for thought. I will study the VPN site you suggested. One thing you mentioned to Jonathan was that you disabled SSID in your router. How does that affect your Wifi network. Can your devices still see the network? I certainly would not mind hiding from th

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2017-04-09 Thread Eric Oyen
not a problem. there are other reasons to use a VPN. However, 2 things I do when using google: 1. I am not signed in 2. I always use a VPN when searching. Also, of late, I have been having some trust issues with my current ISP. It seems that they sent me a notice of copyright infringement about

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2017-04-09 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Eric, I just want to correct one thing. The elimination of the ISP can't collect traffic rule here in the US essentially does not change anything. Congress can not actually shutdown entire rules without Agency changes unless they are brand new rules. The privacy rules were I believe supposed to

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2017-04-09 Thread Eric Oyen
well, depending on whether you use a free or paid service will make a difference in both service quality and setup. I use a paid service myself. It's $7 a month and is fairly reliable. I have tried some free services, but they are mostly hit and miss and are not always as secure. the service I u

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2017-04-09 Thread E.T.
The recent discussion about VPN got me interested but I was not ready to look into it at the time. I know the setup is done in Network prefs but where does one get information on VPN servers etc.? Thanks. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteri