RE: [maemo-developers] Re: N800 Developer Programme Application

2007-01-14 Thread Russ Nelson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Announcing it "so late" (was it the same/next day after the product > launch?) should not be a problem. Active community members and > developers do not need to be "created" overnight, they existed before > the developer program was launched. If I understand the prog

RE: [maemo-developers] Re: N800 Developer Programme Application

2007-01-12 Thread Dave Cridland
On Fri Jan 12 08:37:08 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, You are right about this. One fact is, that release schedule has been a trade secret - hence no "end user roadmap with release dates". Yes, but I think you (or rather Nokia) is falling into the trap of closely coupling software and h

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: N800 Developer Programme Application

2007-01-12 Thread Frantisek Dufka
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another thing is the developer program. I'm not too happy with it myself and I agree we should have at least posted the deadline after which the notifications are sent. I still hope we will at least announce that the selection is over. With the way it is done it may be

RE: [maemo-developers] Re: N800 Developer Programme Application

2007-01-12 Thread Jakub.Pavelek
Hi, You are right about this. One fact is, that release schedule has been a trade secret - hence no "end user roadmap with release dates". What we could do with this limitation was e.g. Herring. Everyone in the open have had Herring available for month(s). It was (clearly?) communicated that this

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: N800 Developer Programme Application

2007-01-11 Thread Igor Tkach
I think it is kinda late not because of the need to create community (great community already exists). By the time the device becomes availble to all you probably want to have most important existing apps ported and tested. My impression is that this is not the case right now. Some work can be don

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: N800 Developer Programme Application

2007-01-11 Thread Kai Schindelka
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the point to announce such a program so late and with so little details? To irritate people? I would like to have my discount right now, if I'm eligible, so that I could buy the device right away, or to know that I'm not eligible so that I could plan $399 into m

RE: [maemo-developers] Re: N800 Developer Programme Application

2007-01-10 Thread Jakub.Pavelek
>What's the point to announce such a program so late and with >so little details? To irritate people? I would like to have my >discount right now, if I'm eligible, so that I could buy the >device right away, or to know that I'm not eligible so that I >could plan $399 into my budget for gadgets.

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: N800 Developer Programme Application

2007-01-10 Thread Igor Tkach
What's the point to announce such a program so late and with so little details? To irritate people? I would like to have my discount right now, if I'm eligible, so that I could buy the device right away, or to know that I'm not eligible so that I could plan $399 into my budget for gadgets. At the

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: N800 Developer Programme Application

2007-01-10 Thread Kai Schindelka
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Correct. But since the selection criteria are quite unclear it looks like everybody fears that he might not be detected. Since I'm interested in participating, too, I would be happy to at least have some private Nokia email adress where I can write a short summery what

[maemo-developers] Re: N800 Developer Programme Application

2007-01-10 Thread rael
Hello! Mmmmh... Perhaps somebody should edit the developer program announce at http://maemo.org/#date_07012007a , or add another entry to explain that this time the developers will be chosen and there is no need to apply as with the 770 developer program. Otherwise, we will have a very crowded