Re: closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-03 Thread Nils Faerber
Dave Neary schrieb: > Hi, > > Faheem Pervez wrote: >> You sure you have a choice in the matter? Considering how you're >> already violating the GPL. > > I don't know the details of the situation. I just want to remind you > that the GPL is a distribution licence. That's why we don't get all > Goo

Re: closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-03 Thread Mohammed Hassan
Oops. Forgot to CC him. On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 14:33 +0200, ext e...@okerson.com wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Faheem Pervez wrote: > >> You sure you have a choice in the matter? Considering how you're > >> already violating the GPL. > > > Dave Neary wrote: > > I don't know the details of the situation.

Re: closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-03 Thread Mohammed Hassan
On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 14:33 +0200, ext e...@okerson.com wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Faheem Pervez wrote: > >> You sure you have a choice in the matter? Considering how you're > >> already violating the GPL. > > > Dave Neary wrote: > > I don't know the details of the situation. I just want to remind you

RE: closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-02 Thread Jarmo.Tikka
Hi, >-Original Message- >From: ext Frantisek Dufka [mailto:duf...@seznam.cz] >Sent: 02 July, 2009 15:54 >To: Dave Neary >Cc: Faheem Pervez; maemo-developers@maemo.org; Tikka Jarmo >(Nokia-D/Helsinki) >Subject: Re: closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for

Re: closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-02 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Dave Neary wrote: > I've seen people say that Nokia doesn't even distribute the initfs > tools. If that's the case, there wouldn't be any GPL violation. Let's move detailed discussion back to the bug report. Quick and hopefully correct summary is that Nokia is distributing modified uclibc (EABI

Re: closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-02 Thread ed
> Hi, > > Faheem Pervez wrote: >> You sure you have a choice in the matter? Considering how you're >> already violating the GPL. > Dave Neary wrote: > I don't know the details of the situation. I just want to remind you > that the GPL is a distribution licence. That's why we don't get all > Google

Re: closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-02 Thread Faheem Pervez
Hi, I'm certainly far from being a licensing expert. But there is a paragraph on a page at the busybox site which does make it clear wrt busybox and releasing source: http://www.busybox.net/license.html I see a /mnt/initfs/bin/busybox but I don't see the source available for the busybox 1.00 used

Re: closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-02 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Faheem Pervez wrote: > You sure you have a choice in the matter? Considering how you're > already violating the GPL. I don't know the details of the situation. I just want to remind you that the GPL is a distribution licence. That's why we don't get all Google's changes to the Linux kernel an

Re: closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-02 Thread Faheem Pervez
(Well, s/you/Nokia/) On 7/2/09, Faheem Pervez wrote: > You sure you have a choice in the matter? Considering how you're > already violating the GPL. > > On 7/2/09, jarmo.ti...@nokia.com wrote: >> And I do not >> belive we have any plans to release toolchain for initfs development for >> Diablo a

Re: closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-02 Thread Faheem Pervez
You sure you have a choice in the matter? Considering how you're already violating the GPL. On 7/2/09, jarmo.ti...@nokia.com wrote: > And I do not > belive we have any plans to release toolchain for initfs development for > Diablo anymore. > > Cheers, > //Jarmo > _

RE: closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-02 Thread Jarmo.Tikka
Hi, >-Original Message- >From: ext Frantisek Dufka [mailto:duf...@seznam.cz] >Sent: 02 July, 2009 09:46 >Fremantle and Diablo released > >jarmo.ti...@nokia.com wrote: > >> BTW I think flasher is the only closed source tool we have >in maemo development environment. Or at least I do not

closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-01 Thread Frantisek Dufka
jarmo.ti...@nokia.com wrote: > BTW I think flasher is the only closed source tool we have in maemo > development environment. Or at least I do not know any other binary only tool > :). > I think gcc/uclibc toolchain for initfs development would qualify but it is much worse here, we even don't

Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-01 Thread Kees Jongenburger
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Ryan Abel wrote: > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Kees > Jongenburger wrote: >>> There's absolutely no reason why not. Really, though, why don't we just open >>> source it so we don't have to deal with ANY of this insanity? >> >> There are other project the 0x f

RE: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-01 Thread Jarmo.Tikka
re.net] >Sent: 01 July, 2009 20:06 >Subject: Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and >Diablo released > >On 06/30/2009 08:41 AM, jarmo.ti...@nokia.com wrote: >> The Maemo Eclipse Integration 2nd Edition project has >released installation packages for Maemo Flasher-3.

Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-01 Thread Ryan Abel
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Kees Jongenburger wrote: >> There's absolutely no reason why not. Really, though, why don't we just open >> source it so we don't have to deal with ANY of this insanity? > > There are other project the 0x flasher out there and not enough people > tried and used i

Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-01 Thread Kees Jongenburger
Hi Ryan On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Ryan Abel wrote: > (Sorry for the terrible quoting. You all knoe exactly how useless an > application Modest is. :)) Still not acceptable > > There's absolutely no reason why not. Really, though, why don't we just open > source it so we don't have to deal

Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-01 Thread Faheem Pervez
*If* Nokia have no intention of open-sourcing this version of the flasher (because it can flash the new "tablet" and Nokia may not like the idea of releasing code relating to the internals of the new "tablet"), then I'd sincerely hope that they would at release the code to 3.0 as Nokia (yes, I mea

Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-01 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Mittwoch, den 01.07.2009, 13:06 -0400 schrieb Hubert Figuiere: > Any plan to release the source code of the Flasher? Also see a thread from November/December 2008: http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2008-November/001367.html http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2008-De

Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-01 Thread Hubert Figuiere
On 06/30/2009 08:41 AM, jarmo.ti...@nokia.com wrote: > The Maemo Eclipse Integration 2nd Edition project has released installation > packages for Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Linuxes, Mac OS X and Windows. > Maemo Flasher-3.5 tool supports flashing of N8x0 Diablo devices and coming > Fremantl

RE: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-01 Thread Jarmo.Tikka
Hi, [jot] some answers below... From: ext gary liquid [mailto:liq...@gmail.com] Sent: 01 July, 2009 15:58 To: Ryan Abel Cc: Tikka Jarmo (Nokia-D/Helsinki); maemo-us...@maemo.org; maemo-developers@maemo.org Subject: Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle

RE: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-01 Thread Jarmo.Tikka
t;Sent: 01 July, 2009 15:37 >To: Tikka Jarmo (Nokia-D/Helsinki) >Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org; maemo-us...@maemo.org >Subject: Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and >Diablo released > >On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:43 AM, wrote: > >>>One step forward and two

Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-01 Thread Ryan Abel
(Sorry for the terrible quoting. You all knoe exactly how useless an application Modest is. :)) There's absolutely no reason why not. Really, though, why don't we just open source it so we don't have to deal with ANY of this insanity? - Original message - is it possible to do tablet->ta

Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-01 Thread gary liquid
is it possible to do tablet->tablet flashing? (serious question) most of us now have more than one device and since not all of us have linux or windows available (hiya GA), having a native solution would be a possible quicker workaround gary On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Ryan Abel wrote: >

Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-01 Thread Ryan Abel
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:43 AM, wrote: >>One step forward and two steps back. > > Happy to see that you considered this Beta release to be at least one step > forward (before ending up being one step backward :) > It's hardly every anything else with Nokia. :( >> >>No PPC binary, and the insta

RE: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-06-30 Thread Jarmo.Tikka
Hi, >-Original Message- >From: ext Ryan Abel [mailto:rabe...@gmail.com] >Sent: 01 July, 2009 03:05 >Diablo released > >On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:41 AM, wrote: >> The Maemo Eclipse Integration 2nd Edition project has >released installation packages for Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta >for

Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-06-30 Thread Ryan Abel
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:41 AM, wrote: > The Maemo Eclipse Integration 2nd Edition project has released installation > packages for Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Linuxes, Mac OS X and Windows. > Maemo Flasher-3.5 tool supports flashing of N8x0 Diablo devices and coming > Fremantle devices. >

Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-06-30 Thread Jarmo.Tikka
The Maemo Eclipse Integration 2nd Edition project has released installation packages for Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Linuxes, Mac OS X and Windows. Maemo Flasher-3.5 tool supports flashing of N8x0 Diablo devices and coming Fremantle devices. Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool details - Version: 2.4.

Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-06-30 Thread Jarmo.Tikka
The Maemo Eclipse Integration 2nd Edition project has released installation packages for Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Linuxes, Mac OS X and Windows. Maemo Flasher-3.5 tool supports flashing of N8x0 Diablo devices and coming Fremantle devices. Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool details - Version: 2.4.