hi,
On 11/11/28 17:28 -0500, andre999 wrote:
so i there some kind of meta-package which is responsible for obsoleting
packages that should be uninstalled?
Why not do what boklm suggested on Mageia-dev (2011-11-20 18:01) :
There is a directory to move old packages that are no longer
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 12:21:04AM +0100, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
B. We drop mysql completely and submit mariadb
Don't mind a somewhat opinionated distribution. Also think about
support. Do you want to provide twice the support for almost the same
thing, or just one time.
--
Regards,
Olav
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 21:10 +0100, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
Op maandag 28 november 2011 14:40:34 schreef Michael Scherer:
[...]
There is several pragmatic reasons for that and, there is also some long
term harm by shipping more and more proprietary software like :
[...]
Personally, I aim
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 09:06:03AM +0100, Jerome Quelin wrote:
the question is: how? which package is to obsolete the list of unwanted
softs?
I suggest a task-obsolete meta package. Similar to task-gnome and so on.
Then ensure task-obsolete is required by something in the base system.
--
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011, Michel Catudal wrote:
Le 28/11/2011 08:40, Michael Scherer a écrit :
Le lundi 28 novembre 2011 à 12:09 +0100, Kamil Rytarowski a écrit :
I wouldn't like to follow the OpenBSD way...
Why ?
They managed to be a highly recognized system, seen as one of the best
in his
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 10:14 +0100, Oliver Burger wrote:
Am Dienstag, 29. November 2011, 10:07:16 schrieb Robert Fox:
We are not proposing that such packages be included in the ISOs - just
available in a repository which we can trust and know that it works . .
And that's the problem. As misc
Since last week, multimedia keys seems to be ignored under gnome: no
more OSD display, and no more effect on mixer. The same is true for
other keyboard shortcut: ctrl+alt+l, which is supposed to lock screen,
doesn't work either.
Everything works fine under XFCE.
I have no clue about which
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Robert Fox wrote:
If you watch what the other major distros are doing related to this
topic - it may give a hint. I am NOT advocating that we have to be like
them, I believe we need to offer the ability and the choice.
Yes, it can give a hint :
- fedora does not
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:08, Robert Fox l...@foxconsult.net wrote:
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 11:05 +0100, nicolas vigier wrote:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Robert Fox wrote:
If you watch what the other major distros are doing related to this
topic - it may give a hint. I am NOT advocating that we
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Robert Fox wrote:
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 11:05 +0100, nicolas vigier wrote:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Robert Fox wrote:
If you watch what the other major distros are doing related to this
topic - it may give a hint. I am NOT advocating that we have to be like
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 12:20 +0100, nicolas vigier wrote:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Robert Fox wrote:
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 11:05 +0100, nicolas vigier wrote:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Robert Fox wrote:
If you watch what the other major distros are doing related to this
topic - it
'Twas brillig, and Kira at 28/11/11 18:46 did gyre and gimble:
在 Tue, 29 Nov 2011 02:38:29 +0800, Colin Guthrie
mag...@colin.guthr.ie寫道:
Cool, then it should be easy enough to support this in dracut, but I'll
need to investigate it a bit more to see exactly how.
Will try and do that over
'Twas brillig, and Dick Gevers at 28/11/11 19:12 did gyre and gimble:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 21:17:34 +0100 (CET), Mageia Team wrote about
[changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kernel-3.1.3-1.mga2:
Name: kernel Relocations: (not relocatable)
Version : 3.1.3
'Twas brillig, and Guillaume Rousse at 29/11/11 09:57 did gyre and gimble:
Since last week, multimedia keys seems to be ignored under gnome: no
more OSD display, and no more effect on mixer. The same is true for
other keyboard shortcut: ctrl+alt+l, which is supposed to lock screen,
doesn't
An immidiate solution, albeit not really a sustainable one, is to add
the missing provides to our libxdamage package; however, doing this
opens the door to have package x providing n different version of libx
or binaryx so it could only really be used if we knew that there was a
chance that
'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 29/11/11 11:43 did gyre and gimble:
'Twas brillig, and Guillaume Rousse at 29/11/11 09:57 did gyre and gimble:
Since last week, multimedia keys seems to be ignored under gnome: no
more OSD display, and no more effect on mixer. The same is true for
other
Le 29/11/2011 06:43, Donald Stewart a écrit :
An immidiate solution, albeit not really a sustainable one, is to add
the missing provides to our libxdamage package; however, doing this
opens the door to have package x providing n different version of libx
or binaryx so it could only really be
Robert Fox skrev 29.11.2011 13:24:
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 12:20 +0100, nicolas vigier wrote:
You are free to try to help teamviewer fix their package to make it work
on Mageia, you can already do it now, there's no need to have a voting
system to consider it.
Sorry Nicolas - I would if I knew
Ah... and there it is...
This is how most threads like this ends up...
Many users seems to forget this is a community driven distribution,
so if you want something no-one of the current maintainers care
about, you need to do the work, and stop expecting others to do
it for you (unless
Am 29.11.2011 14:17, schrieb Thomas Backlund:
Robert Fox skrev 29.11.2011 13:24:
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 12:20 +0100, nicolas vigier wrote:
You are free to try to help teamviewer fix their package to make it work
on Mageia, you can already do it now, there's no need to have a voting
system to
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 03:21:02PM +0200, Thomas Backlund wrote:
I think we should push xserver 1.11 into /release _now_ so it gets
proper testing time from all users before Alpha 2 is released.
Does it work with latest nvidia binary driver?
Just wondering... use it myself, but don't care if
On 29 November 2011 13:44, Thorsten van Lil tv...@gmx.de wrote:
Am 29.11.2011 14:17, schrieb Thomas Backlund:
Robert Fox skrev 29.11.2011 13:24:
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 12:20 +0100, nicolas vigier wrote:
You are free to try to help teamviewer fix their package to make it work
on Mageia, you
'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 29/11/11 13:21 did gyre and gimble:
Colin Guthrie skrev 29.11.2011 13:53:
OK, spoke with Bastien and he pointed me at the fixes (on the Xserver
side).
Will push them through shortly (tho' to the xserver 1.11 in
core/updates_testing only)
I think we
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Robert Fox wrote:
How does one get a mentor? I'd like to learn how to package.
First you should start reading rpm documentation, tutorials, mageia
policies, etc ... Then try making a few packages, asking questions on
IRC or mailing lists if needed. And when you are ready
On 29/11/11 13:31, Robert Fox wrote:
Ah... and there it is...
This is how most threads like this ends up...
Many users seems to forget this is a community driven distribution,
so if you want something no-one of the current maintainers care
about, you need to do the work, and stop expecting
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:43:30AM +, Donald Stewart wrote:
But, as said earlier, this isn't really something that we can do
sustainable so..
Could do it on a best effort basis in a special meta package. I'd be
annoyed to complicate existing spec files with compatibility cruft, but
On 29 November 2011 14:23, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote:
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:43:30AM +, Donald Stewart wrote:
But, as said earlier, this isn't really something that we can do
sustainable so..
Could do it on a best effort basis in a special meta package. I'd be
annoyed to
Thorsten van Lil skrev 29.11.2011 15:44:
Am 29.11.2011 14:17, schrieb Thomas Backlund:
Robert Fox skrev 29.11.2011 13:24:
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 12:20 +0100, nicolas vigier wrote:
You are free to try to help teamviewer fix their package to make it work
on Mageia, you can already do it now,
Colin Guthrie skrev 29.11.2011 16:04:
'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 29/11/11 13:21 did gyre and gimble:
Colin Guthrie skrev 29.11.2011 13:53:
OK, spoke with Bastien and he pointed me at the fixes (on the Xserver
side).
Will push them through shortly (tho' to the xserver 1.11 in
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 02:49:07PM +, Donald Stewart wrote:
That way if a requires from the Fedora package changes, it is easier
to chase the changes needed for Mageia's packages, nice idea, however,
this would need to be documented so people know what it is and why its
getting pulled in.
On 29 November 2011 15:44, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote:
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 02:49:07PM +, Donald Stewart wrote:
That way if a requires from the Fedora package changes, it is easier
to chase the changes needed for Mageia's packages, nice idea, however,
this would need to be
On 29 November 2011 15:18, Thomas Backlund t...@mageia.org wrote:
Colin Guthrie skrev 29.11.2011 16:04:
'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 29/11/11 13:21 did gyre and gimble:
Colin Guthrie skrev 29.11.2011 13:53:
OK, spoke with Bastien and he pointed me at the fixes (on the Xserver
'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 29/11/11 11:53 did gyre and gimble:
'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 29/11/11 11:43 did gyre and gimble:
'Twas brillig, and Guillaume Rousse at 29/11/11 09:57 did gyre and gimble:
Since last week, multimedia keys seems to be ignored under gnome: no
more
'Twas brillig, and Kamil Rytarowski at 28/11/11 20:38 did gyre and gimble:
On 28.11.2011 21:15, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
Op maandag 28 november 2011 14:09:16 schreef Kamil Rytarowski:
On 28.11.2011 13:41, Bruno Cornec wrote:
(..)
So I guess there is something wrong here. Or are we so few that
'Twas brillig, and Bruno Cornec at 28/11/11 12:41 did gyre and gimble:
Hello,
I received recently a mail from Samuel Verschelde asking me to look
again at the list of un-maintained packages in mageia (either
http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/unmaintained.txt or by mgarepo maintdb
get | grep
Hello,
When a package is no longer supported, without being replaced by an
other package, and needs to be removed from the distribution, the
current procedure is :
- move the package on svn to obsolete directory
- ask a sysadmin to manually remove the package from repositories
Instead of
2011/11/29 nicolas vigier bo...@mars-attacks.org:
Instead of asking a sysadmin to do it, I propose that we create a
package task-obsolete, with obsoletes on all packages that need to be
removed, so that the removing of the package will be done by youri.
+1 but I think we still have the bug
2011/11/29 Colin Guthrie mag...@colin.guthr.ie:
Will push them through shortly (tho' to the xserver 1.11 in
core/updates_testing only)
Phew! That was a bit of a fight in the end with several .la file related
build problems but it's there now.
And now our massive .la file cleaning is a bit
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 11:41:02 +, Colin Guthrie wrote about Re:
[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kernel-3.1.3-1.mga2:
'Twas brillig, and Dick Gevers at 28/11/11 19:12 did gyre and gimble:
I remark that on an already systemd enabled Cauldron (*), the grub
parameter is now
Op dinsdag 29 november 2011 18:36:39 schreef Colin Guthrie:
'Twas brillig, and Bruno Cornec at 28/11/11 12:41 did gyre and gimble:
Hello,
I received recently a mail from Samuel Verschelde asking me to look
again at the list of un-maintained packages in mageia (either
Am 29.11.2011 23:12, schrieb Johnny A. Solbu:
On Tuesday 29 November 2011 14:31, Robert Fox wrote:
I'd like to learn how to package.
I learned to master the magic of packaging in march of 2010, by asking two
IRC buddies on how to create an RPM package. And they where helpfull in
pointing me
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:18:29 +0200
Thomas Backlund t...@mageia.org wrote:
Colin Guthrie skrev 29.11.2011 16:04:
'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 29/11/11 13:21 did gyre and gimble:
Colin Guthrie skrev 29.11.2011 13:53:
OK, spoke with Bastien and he pointed me at the fixes (on the
On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 00:12:36 +0100
JA Magallon jamagal...@ono.com wrote:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:18:29 +0200
Thomas Backlund t...@mageia.org wrote:
Colin Guthrie skrev 29.11.2011 16:04:
'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 29/11/11 13:21 did gyre and gimble:
Colin Guthrie skrev
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:58:18 +
Donald Stewart watersnowr...@gmail.com wrote:
On 29 November 2011 15:18, Thomas Backlund t...@mageia.org wrote:
Colin Guthrie skrev 29.11.2011 16:04:
'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 29/11/11 13:21 did gyre and gimble:
Colin Guthrie skrev
On 29.11.2011 16:04, Colin Guthrie wrote:
'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 29/11/11 13:21 did gyre and gimble:
Colin Guthrie skrev 29.11.2011 13:53:
OK, spoke with Bastien and he pointed me at the fixes (on the Xserver
side).
Will push them through shortly (tho' to the xserver 1.11 in
On 29 November 2011 23:24, JA Magallon jamagal...@ono.com wrote:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:58:18 +
Donald Stewart watersnowr...@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone have, or know of some data on the number of people that
still use pre Nvidia 6 series cards? And what the performance between
the
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 23:35:02 +
Donald Stewart watersnowr...@gmail.com wrote:
On 29 November 2011 23:24, JA Magallon jamagal...@ono.com wrote:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:58:18 +
Donald Stewart watersnowr...@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone have, or know of some data on the number of
Le 29/11/2011 17:37, Johnny A. Solbu a écrit :
On Tuesday 29 November 2011 03:47, Michel Catudal wrote:
The proper course is to provide some proprietary driver when it is impossible
to have a good free alternative.
That is a matter of oppinion.
In my oppinion the proper solution is to seek
On 29.11.2011 19:07, nicolas vigier wrote:
Hello,
When a package is no longer supported, without being replaced by an
other package, and needs to be removed from the distribution, the
current procedure is :
- move the package on svn to obsolete directory
- ask a sysadmin to manually remove
Does the idea include removing srpm also?
在 2011-11-30 上午2:07，nicolas vigier bo...@mars-attacks.org写道：
Hello,
When a package is no longer supported, without being replaced by an
other package, and needs to be removed from the distribution, the
current procedure is :
- move the package on
Jerome Quelin a écrit :
hi,
On 11/11/28 17:28 -0500, andre999 wrote:
so i there some kind of meta-package which is responsible for obsoleting
packages that should be uninstalled?
Why not do what boklm suggested on Mageia-dev (2011-11-20 18:01) :
...
you don't answer the
nicolas vigier a écrit :
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Robert Fox wrote:
If you watch what the other major distros are doing related to this
topic - it may give a hint. I am NOT advocating that we have to be like
them, I believe we need to offer the ability and the choice.
Yes, it can give
Olav Vitters a écrit :
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:43:30AM +, Donald Stewart wrote:
But, as said earlier, this isn't really something that we can do
sustainable so..
Could do it on a best effort basis in a special meta package. I'd be
annoyed to complicate existing spec files
Michel Catudal a écrit :
Le 29/11/2011 19:40, Funda Wang a écrit :
Does the idea include removing srpm also?
在 2011-11-30 上午2:07，nicolas vigier bo...@mars-attacks.org
mailto:bo...@mars-attacks.org 写道：
Hello,
When a package is no longer supported, without being replaced by an
nicolas vigier a écrit :
Hello,
When a package is no longer supported, without being replaced by an
other package, and needs to be removed from the distribution, the
current procedure is :
- move the package on svn to obsolete directory
- ask a sysadmin to manually remove the package from
在 Tue, 29 Nov 2011 19:39:13 +0800, Colin Guthrie
mag...@colin.guthr.ie寫道:
Interesting... perhaps it's the initrd in use that broke it? Or maybe
the kernel itself is busted. There will be a 3.1.4 coming very soon (as
there was a brown-paper-bag USB borkage on the 3.1.3 kernel)
If possible could
Since the recent Cauldron updates - I am having serious issues under KDE
and Gnome 3.2 - I think it has something to do with the latest Compiz -
Now the mouse is no accurate (can't click directly on anything - it is
slightly over and to the left) - and compiz appears to be broken.
Drak3d does not
On Wed, 2011-11-30 at 08:39 +0100, Robert Fox wrote:
Since the recent Cauldron updates - I am having serious issues under KDE
and Gnome 3.2 - I think it has something to do with the latest Compiz -
Now the mouse is no accurate (can't click directly on anything - it is
slightly over and to the
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