Re: [Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?

2010-09-26 Thread Frank Griffin
Giuseppe Ghibò wrote: The most difficult things IMHO would be building from the same syncronized data. In that case you might choose a master server and several mirrors. The master might have multiple internet access points (e.g. from two providers) and will be the only one who might receive

Re: [Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets

2010-09-30 Thread Frank Griffin
Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-09-30 07:21, Graham Lauder a écrit : The feel to me that came from the brainstorming was that Mageia could be marketed as the Family Distro. I think that if you target the software packages that are compatible with Educational software advocated by educational

Re: [Mageia-dev] An idea for improve URPMI ;)

2010-09-30 Thread Frank Griffin
André Machado wrote: Can you reprogram URPMI to download packages from smaller to larger? Given that you want to be installing them as they are downloaded, won't the inter-package dependencies dictate the real order ? I mean, you can try installing the smaller ones first, but the first one

Re: [Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets

2010-09-30 Thread Frank Griffin
Graham Lauder wrote: In a phrase: Horse Doo doo [] Mageia has a donation system [] We do this because at the end of the day infrastructure costs, marketing costs, a whole pile of things cost. One day some patch or application, which is essential but completely non-sexy could

[Mageia-dev] Mailman idiot defaults

2010-09-30 Thread Frank Griffin
Could the admin for this list please change the Reply-To default to the list itself ? The other Mageia lists appear to have done this, but this one still sends replies to both the sender and the list. I've just had one experience where the reply goes to the sender and *not* to the list. I'm

Re: [Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets

2010-10-01 Thread Frank Griffin
I'm not sure what's going on with this ML. I responded to a post by Graham Lauder, and it ended up going to him but not the ML. He then responded to me privately, and we both agreed to repost to the ML. According to the gmane archives, he did, but I never received his repost, so I can't place

Re: [Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets

2010-10-01 Thread Frank Griffin
Graham Lauder wrote: On Saturday 02 Oct 2010 01:14:36 Frank Griffin wrote: And you miss my point entirely, there is NO trumpeting, that's advertising, there is no exclusion, rather inclusion of a missed market Oh, come on. Trumpeting and advertising are essentially the same thing

Re: [Mageia-dev] Proposal: Updating released versions (long post)

2010-10-08 Thread Frank Griffin
Luca Berra wrote: On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 07:49:29PM -0400, Frank Griffin wrote: I'd like to propose the following model for updating released versions: 1) Users should not have to see, except in minor ways, the different repositories. Urpmi may see them, and advanced or ideologically polar

Re: [Mageia-dev] Proposal: Updating released versions (long post)

2010-10-08 Thread Frank Griffin
Marc Paré wrote: So, as to your proposal, I am in agreement with it. Maybe a suggestion (more of a question), seeing as the issues have to deal more with the dependencies of a roll-back, what if, Backports would install, somehow the software updates in a self compartment kind of way (sorry my

Re: [Mageia-dev] Proposal: Updating released versions (long post)

2010-10-08 Thread Frank Griffin
Marc Paré wrote: So, in terms of space used for this, if you had to install all 6, would this tax the system so much and risk filling up the hardrive needlessly. Not really, since the old versions would be removed when the new ones were installed. The behavior I described is not part of the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Proposal: Updating released versions (long post)

2010-10-08 Thread Frank Griffin
Renaud MICHEL wrote: If you still have the old package (which could have been reconstructed with the --repackage option of urpmi), rpm can upgrade to an older version using the --oldpackage option. So, if the dependencies are sill met with the old package you won't have the uninstall

Re: [Mageia-dev] Proposal: Updating released versions (long post)

2010-10-08 Thread Frank Griffin
Marc Paré wrote: Thanks. So this thread is to see if there were a possibility to programme a more efficient roll-back option so that it would be more aware of the previous dependencies needs for the previous version. Having double dependencies is not so much of a problem, it is the rollback

Re: [Mageia-dev] Proposal: Updating released versions (long post)

2010-10-13 Thread Frank Griffin
Michael Scherer wrote: touching /home is forbidden in %pre and %post per policy. 1) you cannot be sure that every user are available ( ie, using ldap/nis ) 2) you cannot be sure that someone is not already using the directory/config file ( ie, shared home by nfs, or multiuser system ) 3)

Re: [Mageia-dev] Proposal: Updating released versions (long post)

2010-10-13 Thread Frank Griffin
Renaud MICHEL wrote: On Wednesday 13 octobre 2010 at 23:34, Frank Griffin wrote : One way of doing it might be, having identified packages that require this sort of support, to wrap the executables with scripts that do this the next time a user runs the software before the real executable

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc

2010-10-15 Thread Frank Griffin
Tux99 wrote: On Fri, 15 Oct 2010, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: As mirror maintainer/owner of Mandriva Linux and future Mageia (ftp.mandrivauser.de) I discussed this problem with my friends and we decided not to mirror PLF although a German university does (ftp.gwdg.de). The point is that our

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two

2010-12-06 Thread Frank Griffin
Maarten Vanraes wrote: Op maandag 06 december 2010 16:30:00 schreef Hoyt Duff: Again, a good argument for a name with no conflicts and no negative meanings: paris. no negative meaning??? Paris Hilton anyone??? Hoyt is obviously not a subscriber to The Reg :-)

Re: [Mageia-dev] Adding Java-Policy

2011-01-06 Thread Frank Griffin
Michael Scherer wrote: Why include gcj in fact ? I wondered about this when I took a look at some Java packages (e.g. maven) to see how easy they would be to upgrade. A huge amount of complexity was introduced by the desire of the existing RPMs to produce a gcj version of the tool involved.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Java-Policy first draft published

2011-01-12 Thread Frank Griffin
Farfouille wrote: I propose to keep the restriction, but to allow some exception, mainly blockbuster like Eclipse and Netbeans in order to build an appealing distro. Do you know other softwares that are worth to be exception ? The only one that comes to mind is JBoss, but I'm sure there

Re: [Mageia-dev] Java-Policy first draft published

2011-01-12 Thread Frank Griffin
Renaud MICHEL wrote: Or maybe, if the jar in the external dependency plugin is actually the same (or compatible) version as the on from the normal package maybe we could make a plugin package only containing the eclipse related files (plugin.properties) and creating a symlink to the system

Re: [Mageia-dev] Java-Policy first draft published

2011-01-12 Thread Frank Griffin
Renaud MICHEL wrote: On mercredi 12 janvier 2011 at 23:54, Frank Griffin wrote : Users of things like NetBeans and Eclipse are used to the mechanisms provided by those tools for managing plugin installation, and are not going to take kindly to having to use rpmdrake instead. Well, I

Re: [Mageia-dev] Java-Policy first draft published

2011-01-13 Thread Frank Griffin
Daniel Kreuter wrote: I don't agree with you at that point. I always take the tarball from eclipse.org http://eclipse.org (for eclipse) or netbeans.org http://netbeans.org (for netbeans) instead of the one's of repository provided by the distro. The reason is quite simple, the one's

Re: [Mageia-dev] Virtual machine image distribution

2011-02-14 Thread Frank Griffin
David Sjölin wrote: I would be interested in this, especially for the first versions. But as you say, one could install it oneself on a VirtualBox, but with some distributions I've used graphics can be complicated to get right in VirtualBox. Could you be more specific ? Maybe I'm missing

Re: [Mageia-dev] time to switch from raw partitions to lvm?

2011-02-24 Thread Frank Griffin
Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Now with LVM, what do I do? Pretty much exactly the same, if that's what you want. LVM is just a layer of indirection that you place on top of *only* those partitions you want LVM to control. It lets you create multiple virtual partitions each of which includes one

[Mageia-dev] Identity verification broken ?

2011-02-28 Thread Frank Griffin
I previously registered with the Mageia identity server, but when I try to log in, I get incorrect user name or password . I went through the Reset Password process, and the server must know me because it included my name. I entered the same password I had set previously, and it seemed to accept

Re: [Mageia-dev] Identity verification broken ?

2011-03-02 Thread Frank Griffin
Romain d'Alverny wrote: - did the password reset process go smoothly? AFAICS - did you try alternatively with your login, instead of your email? That did it, using just ftg rather than the full email address. The confusion stems from the fact that bugzilla, which keeps you logged in

[Mageia-dev] Installs

2011-03-02 Thread Frank Griffin
After some back-and-forth in MDV bug https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=62374 , it comes out that MDV no longer intends to support boot.iso or isolinux installs, except as a low-priority item. So I just thought I'd ask here whether we intend to continue to support this type of install.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Installs

2011-03-02 Thread Frank Griffin
Olivier Blin wrote: It is planned to keep supporting DrakX installer + drakxtools in Mageia, as you can see in alpha1 That's good to hear. I always thought the MDV install with all its options was one of the best parts. I realize that we had only an ISO, and while I test-installed that,

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-03 Thread Frank Griffin
Romain d'Alverny wrote: The points to decide here are: a) should a contributor provide a public email address, to be used in changelogs, commits and everywhere her contribution to the project needs an id or contact id? (for instance changelog, commit, document authoring) b) should a

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-03 Thread Frank Griffin
Romain d'Alverny wrote: On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 21:54, Frank Griffin f...@roadrunner.com wrote: Maarten Vanraes wrote: C. how about we make packagename@packages.mageia.org, which could use the maintainers database to forward the email to maintainers (in case of more) (this could also

Re: [Mageia-dev] database servers

2011-03-11 Thread Frank Griffin
Oliver Burger wrote: Normally this is working nicely, but if you are using extensions to postgres like postgis and so on (which may or may not be packaged and thus be selve compiled), it can be a pain in the ass. can be -- usually is. I don't actually use postgre, but I have

[Mageia-dev] vbox/vboxadditions conflicts question

2011-03-23 Thread Frank Griffin
I understand that virtualbox and vbox additions cannot both be installed on the same system because of conflicts. But why, when I try to update a system with virtualbox installed and vboxadditions not installed, do I get prompts about vboxadditions not being installable ? What is asking for

Re: [Mageia-dev] vbox/vboxadditions conflicts question

2011-03-23 Thread Frank Griffin
On 03/23/2011 08:45 AM, Olivier Blin wrote: Don't you have x11 packages for vbox guest installed? That was it, thanks. Apparently virtualbox-additions and the x11 package were forced on during my post-installation processing. Is there an rpm or urpmq query that will highlight conflicts

[Mageia-dev] Sudden problems with r8169 NICs ?

2011-03-23 Thread Frank Griffin
I updated cauldron this morning, and later rebooted my desktop. My r8169 on eth0 is suddenly having problems, maybe due to the new kernel. The chipset is an r8169 variant: Mar 23 15:58:23 localhost kernel: r8169 Gigabit Ethernet driver 2.3LK-NAPI loaded Mar 23 15:58:23 localhost kernel:

Re: [Mageia-dev] Non-free firmwares in installer

2011-03-24 Thread Frank Griffin
On 03/24/2011 04:57 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: A possible solution for people with such a setup could be a non-free driver cd ISO which they could include in the installation process. Excellent suggestion, and it dovetails with another problem: being able to do a network install over a

Re: [Mageia-dev] vbox/vboxadditions conflicts question

2011-03-24 Thread Frank Griffin
On 03/24/2011 12:41 PM, andre999 wrote: Frank Griffin a écrit : Is there an rpm or urpmq query that will highlight conflicts between installed packages on a system ? For example, if I installed dkms-virtualbox and then installed dkms-vboxadditions with --force, is there a query which would

Re: [Mageia-dev] Sudden problems with r8169 NICs ?

2011-03-24 Thread Frank Griffin
On 03/24/2011 04:37 PM, Thomas Backlund wrote: I'm not sure it's broken. Realtek is known to have somewhat crappy NICs that can tend to lock up in a middle state if a driver probe comes too fast, and then they dont react to any link or driver loading anymore. One way that might help is to

Re: [Mageia-dev] Non-free firmwares in installer

2011-03-25 Thread Frank Griffin
This has really moved away from the question of providing drivers/firmware to a pissing contest about whose philosophy the default offerings should represent. Presumably, FLOSS supporters are satisfied with the state of the current ISOs, and https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=523 would

Re: [Mageia-dev] Please welcome a new packager

2011-03-25 Thread Frank Griffin
On 03/25/2011 03:49 PM, Anne nicolas wrote: 2011/3/25 Remy CLOUARDshikam...@mandriva.org: Welcome Oliver ! Indeed welcome in hell :) You're certainly a recognized name around here, and best of luck. @Anne, in my old company, when a developer reached lofty enough stature to be invited to

Re: [Mageia-dev] Non-free firmwares in installer

2011-03-26 Thread Frank Griffin
On 03/26/2011 01:11 AM, andre999 wrote: Frank Griffin a écrit : From what you say, there are not a lot of points of disagreement between us, on this issue. We both have contributed to open source for a long time, you apparently mostly on developement/packaging, myself mostly translating

Re: [Mageia-dev] Non-free firmwares in installer

2011-03-26 Thread Frank Griffin
On 03/26/2011 06:37 PM, Maarten Vanraes wrote: During the times mandriva had several CDs to install it, the new ones often only dl'ed one and complained when stuff didn't work. I forsee possibly here the same issue with this, people will forget to download the extra non_free CD, or do not care

Re: [Mageia-dev] Non-free firmwares in installer

2011-03-27 Thread Frank Griffin
On 03/26/2011 08:58 PM, Tux99 wrote: And why should all of us suffer the hassle of a DVD + a CD (how would that work for all those that use USB-sticks, do they now need two sticks? I guess you must have missed the six or so times I stated that I don't give a rat's whatever about whether

Re: [Mageia-dev] Non-free firmwares in installer

2011-03-27 Thread Frank Griffin
On 03/27/2011 06:33 PM, andre999 wrote: Frank Griffin a écrit : On 03/26/2011 06:37 PM, Maarten Vanraes wrote: During the times mandriva had several CDs to install it, the new ones often only dl'ed one and complained when stuff didn't work. I forsee possibly here the same issue

[Mageia-dev] cairo and poppler conflicts

2011-03-29 Thread Frank Griffin
This has been going on for several days, so it's not mirror lag. If you use --keep, these conflicts are holding up install of a slew of libreoffice packages. There appears to be a conflict between cairo and cairo-xcb, and either poppler13 should replace poppler12, or else they shouldn't have

[Mageia-dev] texlive install problems

2011-03-29 Thread Frank Griffin
34/37: texlive # /usr/share / / /var/lib/texmf / Error: `pdftex -ini -jobname=jadetex -progname=jadetex *jadetex.ini' failed Error: `pdftex -ini -jobname=pdfjadetex -progname=pdfjadetex *pdfjadetex.ini' failed

Re: [Mageia-dev] cairo and poppler conflicts

2011-03-29 Thread Frank Griffin
On 03/29/2011 11:20 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote: On 29 March 2011 13:55, Frank Griffinf...@roadrunner.com wrote: This has been going on for several days, so it's not mirror lag. If you use --keep, these conflicts are holding up install of a slew of libreoffice packages. There appears to be a

Re: [Mageia-dev] cairo and poppler conflicts

2011-03-29 Thread Frank Griffin
On 03/29/2011 12:12 PM, Ahmad Samir wrote: On 29 March 2011 17:47, Frank Griffinf...@roadrunner.com wrote: ??? Then shouldn't 13 replace 12 ? Various of the new packages, e.g. inkscape, require 13. It is, urpmi is asking you to remove 12 to install 13. I meant silently and automatically,

Re: [Mageia-dev] cairo and poppler conflicts

2011-03-29 Thread Frank Griffin
On 03/29/2011 03:01 PM, Ahmad Samir wrote: [...] “attach”... Anyway, from the log: auto-select: adding lib64cairo-xcb2-1.10.2-4.mga1.x86_64 replacing lib64cairo-xcb2-1.10.2-3.mga1.x86_64 which means you have lib64cairo-xcb2 installed (rpm -qa lib64cairo* should confirm/deny); this is not the

[Mageia-dev] dhcp-client is borked as of today

2011-04-13 Thread Frank Griffin
It writes a search line to /etc/resolv.conf of the not-fully-qualified hostname rather than the domain names returned by the DHCP server. For instance, if the hostname is ftglap and the domain names returned by the server are x.y.z y.z, you get search ftglap rather than search x.y.z y.z as

Re: [Mageia-dev] dhcp-client is borked as of today

2011-04-13 Thread Frank Griffin
On 04/13/2011 07:39 PM, Frank Griffin wrote: It writes a search line to /etc/resolv.conf of the not-fully-qualified hostname rather than the domain names returned by the DHCP server. For instance, if the hostname is ftglap and the domain names returned by the server are x.y.z y.z, you get

Re: [Mageia-dev] Tainted Software - once more

2011-04-14 Thread Frank Griffin
On 04/14/2011 07:28 AM, Tux99 wrote: Does anyone know what the status of the buildsystem with regards to building dual core/tainted packages from a single source rpm is? And to re-ask a related question that was never resolved: is tainted supposed to be a replacement for PLF, or will PLF

Re: [Mageia-dev] dhcp-client is borked as of today

2011-04-14 Thread Frank Griffin
On 04/14/2011 06:14 PM, Michael Scherer wrote: IMHO, that's worth a addition to some errata or upgrade notes. There was also a previous issue on either the cooker or mageia-dev list (probably cooker) where the poster had a situation where a newer (Cisco) DHCP server was returning only the

[Mageia-dev] Wine upgrade problems

2011-04-17 Thread Frank Griffin
[root@ftglap network-scripts]# urpmi --auto-select A requested package cannot be installed: wine-1.3.18-1.mga1.i586 (due to conflicts with wine64-1.3.18-1.mga1.x86_64) Continue installation anyway? (Y/n) The following package has to be removed for others to be upgraded: wine-1.3.17-1.mga1.i586

Re: [Mageia-dev] Wine upgrade problems

2011-04-17 Thread Frank Griffin
On 04/17/2011 10:01 AM, Anssi Hannula wrote: Try --debug to see why is it trying to install both wine and wine64. Hmm, I thought this sounded familiar. I had the same problem on Cooker in January, and Ahmad pointed me to this:

Re: [Mageia-dev] Thunderbird disk storage way up

2011-04-22 Thread Frank Griffin
On 04/22/2011 07:18 AM, Frank Griffin wrote: There doesn't seem to be a config option to control this feature, so I'm guessing it's a build option that just got turned on, if it's an option at all. I found it, in Edit-Preferences-Advanced-General Enable Global search and Indexer. Most

Re: [Mageia-dev] Thunderbird disk storage way up

2011-04-22 Thread Frank Griffin
On 04/22/2011 09:11 AM, nicolas vigier wrote: What is upstream default ? On, I guess. Every google hit I got for global-message-db was a complaint about having to track down what was eating the disk :-)

Re: [Mageia-dev] Thunderbird disk storage way up

2011-04-22 Thread Frank Griffin
On 04/22/2011 12:07 PM, Ahmad Samir wrote: If it doesn't impact performance badly, 118MB on a 1TB HDD is nothing... should be left as upstream default, enabled. Well, I wasn't concerned with the disk space per se, but with the fact that a file as large as my entire mailstore is modified every

[Mageia-dev] PostgreSQL conflicts

2011-04-25 Thread Frank Griffin
This has been discussed in several threads in Cooker over the years. Every new postgreSQL package conflicts with the previous version. It neither replaces it, nor can it be installed alongside of it, e.g. Some requested packages cannot be installed: lib64pq9.0_5-9.0.4-1.mga1.x86_64 (due to

Re: [Mageia-dev] lxde under gdm ?

2011-04-25 Thread Frank Griffin
On 03/27/2011 12:42 PM, Thierry Vignaud wrote: On 26 March 2011 18:58, Ahmad Samirahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote: It looks like X crashes, please check /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old... you may have better luck in /var/log/gdm/ I just got back to testing this, and it works OK now.

[Mageia-dev] Packages depending on older packages ?

2011-04-29 Thread Frank Griffin
The following has been going on for a few days now: The following packages can't be installed because they depend on packages that are older than the installed ones: maven-surefire-provider-junit-2.8-2.mga1 mojo-signatures-1.1-0.4.svn11457.2.mga1 animal-sniffer-1.6-9.mga1 maven-3.0.3-3.mga1

[Mageia-dev] systemd/sysvinit conflict

2011-04-29 Thread Frank Griffin
The following packages have to be removed for others to be upgraded: systemd-sysvinit-18-1.mga1.x86_64 (due to conflicts with SysVinit[ 9.mga1-9.mga1])

Re: [Mageia-dev] Packages depending on older packages ?

2011-04-29 Thread Frank Griffin
On 04/29/2011 02:52 PM, Ahmad Samir wrote: Without urpmi --debug output, no one can start to guess. [root@ftgme2 grub]# urpmi --auto-select --debug getting lock on urpmi parsing: /etc/urpmi/mediacfg.d/Devel-1-x86_64 examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Release/synthesis.hdlist.cz]

Re: [Mageia-dev] Packages depending on older packages ?

2011-04-29 Thread Frank Griffin
On 04/29/2011 03:21 PM, Frank Griffin wrote: On 04/29/2011 03:15 PM, Dexter Morgan wrote: This is because i redone all the java stack from scratch. If you can help me to find the packages that need a release bump i will do it and help the upgrade. Do you need anything in addition

[Mageia-dev] lib64gdata conflict

2011-06-09 Thread Frank Griffin
Installation failed:file /usr/lib64/girepository-1.0/GData-0.0.typelib from install of lib64gdata10-0.7.1-1.mga2.x86_64 conflicts with file from package lib64gdata7-0.6.6-1.mga1.x86_64 libgdata.so.10()(64bit) is needed by evolution-data-server-3.0.2.1-1.mga2.x86_64

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with Gnome 3

2011-06-10 Thread Frank Griffin
On 06/10/2011 06:46 AM, Michael Scherer wrote: While I have no issue with gnome-shell, I have read enough reports of people not happy with it to know we would head to a 2nd kde 4.0 story. So maybe we could start to learn from the past and discuss with users to explain the update, see why they do

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with Gnome 3

2011-06-10 Thread Frank Griffin
On 06/10/2011 07:44 AM, Dexter Morgan wrote: maybe 1 wait to have gnome 3 and then speak about gnome2 Could you post here when all of the GNOME3 packages are in Cauldron ?

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with Gnome 3

2011-06-10 Thread Frank Griffin
On 06/10/2011 07:39 AM, Kira wrote: In the past time, there's KDE3 and KDE4 co-exist together in the repository, maybe we can do it again? Good idea. I'm not much of a KDE user, but I noticed that the DMs offered both KDE3 and 4, which seems like a very easy way to switch back and forth (if

[Mageia-dev] GNOME 2.32 borked

2011-06-10 Thread Frank Griffin
Just updated and rebooted a system which was last rebooted Jun 7, and both GDM and KDM fail to log into my GNOME DE with a greyish popup saying failed to load your GNOME session. /var/log/gdm/0.log shows a segfault backtrace in fglrx, but this could be a red herring, since KDE starts fine for

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME 2.32 borked

2011-06-10 Thread Frank Griffin
On 06/10/2011 12:37 PM, Daniel Le Berre wrote: Got the same problem this morning on a Mageia 1 RC that had not been updated for two weeks, and that I updated yesterday. The following GNOME3 packages seem to have gotten installed in spite of --keep: gnome-icon-theme gnome-menus

Re: [Mageia-dev] Perl conflicts

2011-06-12 Thread Frank Griffin
On 06/12/2011 02:02 PM, Sander Lepik wrote: https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1756 Thanks for the response. I saw that one, but it only deals with JSON, and it's marked FIXED. There seemed to be more involved here.

[Mageia-dev] GNOME3 ?

2011-06-13 Thread Frank Griffin
Is the GNOME3 upload complete to the point where bug reports will be useful ?

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME3 ?

2011-06-13 Thread Frank Griffin
On 06/13/2011 04:05 PM, Dexter Morgan wrote: nice i fix this one The reason I ask is that on an ID previously using GNOME 2.32, the desktop comes up, but launching any application drives the video crazy. You can see the app window some of the time, but after a second or two of video

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME3 ?

2011-06-13 Thread Frank Griffin
On 06/13/2011 04:12 PM, Frank Griffin wrote: On 06/13/2011 04:05 PM, Dexter Morgan wrote: nice i fix this one The reason I ask is that on an ID previously using GNOME 2.32, the desktop comes up, but launching any application drives the video crazy. You can see the app window some

Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox 5

2011-06-14 Thread Frank Griffin
On 06/14/2011 08:22 AM, Thierry Vignaud wrote: Upgrading stable firefox to firefox5rc and importing firefox-{beta,aurora} are two distinct orthogonal things IMHO. since firefox5 is near being released, I think we should update main xulrunner+firefox to 5 anyway Whatever we do, please don't

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME3 ?

2011-06-14 Thread Frank Griffin
On 06/14/2011 08:56 AM, Dexter Morgan wrote: if you can provide the urpmi logs i would be glad to fix this as quickly as possible I didn't keep the stdout, although the fact that the package is installed is logged in /var/log/messages, the conflict errors are not. However, the last ones I

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

2011-06-14 Thread Frank Griffin
On 06/14/2011 09:07 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: So, IMHO this discussion is as meaningless as the famous/infamous vi vs emacs discussions of way back when. +1 Not to mention that if you don't like getting emails, you can always simply use the archives to find what interests you.

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME3 ?

2011-06-14 Thread Frank Griffin
On 06/14/2011 09:27 AM, Dexter Morgan wrote: Conflicts should be fixed now. In order to separate the upgrade issues, I just did a fresh Cauldron GNOME install in a VBox VM, and tried to log in. I get the flat (not striped) blue background, probably because your dependency fix hasn't come

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

2011-06-14 Thread Frank Griffin
On 06/14/2011 09:38 AM, Lee Forest wrote: And keeping one golden rule of software development in mind, don't let your system do redundant tasks. Look how many times a conversation is repeated throughout its life time in a mailing list. Thats alot of redundant data using up server traffic.

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME3 ?

2011-06-14 Thread Frank Griffin
On 06/14/2011 10:04 AM, Dexter Morgan wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Frank Griffinf...@roadrunner.com wrote: On 06/14/2011 09:27 AM, Dexter Morgan wrote: If I try to install gnome-themes-standard, I get conflicts with gnome-themes-2.32, which has been pulled in by epiphany-2.32.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

2011-06-14 Thread Frank Griffin
On 06/14/2011 10:22 AM, Lee Forest wrote: On 06/14/2011 10:03 AM, Frank Griffin wrote: That's not caused by an ML, it's caused by people being lazy and quoting the entire message to which they're replying, which is a breach of netiquette. As is top-posting :-) Android mail does

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

2011-06-14 Thread Frank Griffin
On 06/14/2011 01:33 PM, Jehan Pagès wrote: Hi, This has all been discussed before. See the thread at http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.devel/924

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with Gnome 3

2011-06-14 Thread Frank Griffin
On 06/14/2011 06:40 PM, Dexter Morgan wrote: Do you have gnome-control-center installed I have the same situation, and gnome-control-center is installed. I think it's time for you to actually test the reproducible cases we've given you. Unless you have first-hand knowledge that your

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with Gnome 3

2011-06-16 Thread Frank Griffin
On 06/16/2011 03:42 AM, Thorsten van Lil wrote: I know what you mean. I feel the very same. * You get the a somelike systray, if you move the mouse to the bottom-right corner (at least networkmanager and mgaonline is there). * virtual desktops are now known as Activities. If a window is

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with Gnome 3

2011-06-16 Thread Frank Griffin
On 06/16/2011 10:55 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Next: when I come from a locked screen, giving the password to unlock it, only the background shows. No top bar, nothing happening when I move the mouse to any side,top, bottom. I have to Clt+Alt+Back out. This happens 3 out of 5 today. This was

[Mageia-dev] Distrib-coffee

2011-06-23 Thread Frank Griffin
...has been offline for about 12 hours

Re: [Mageia-dev] Distrib-coffee

2011-06-23 Thread Frank Griffin
On 06/23/2011 05:35 AM, Frank Griffin wrote: ...has been offline for about 12 hours and just came back.

[Mageia-dev] Coherence Test Content

2011-07-05 Thread Frank Griffin
For the last several days in my Cauldron KDE desktop, multiple instances of the Available Device notification keep coming up entitled Coherence Test Content. This appears to be caused by the following in /etc/coherence/coherence.conf: plugin active=yes nameCoherence Test Content/name

Re: [Mageia-dev] Coherence Test Content

2011-07-05 Thread Frank Griffin
On 07/05/2011 10:22 AM, John Balcaen wrote: 2011/7/5 Frank Griffinf...@roadrunner.com: For the last several days in my Cauldron KDE desktop, multiple instances of the Available Device notification keep coming up entitled Coherence Test Content. The notification is probably related to the

[Mageia-dev] Where is the KDE WM ?

2011-07-15 Thread Frank Griffin
Has anyone else noticed that as of updating yesterday or today, the windows in KDE have no titlebars, and cannot be moved or closed (except through the individual app) ? I used to see this occasionally under GNOME 2.32, but logging out/in again usually put it right. That doesn't work in the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Where is the KDE WM ?

2011-07-15 Thread Frank Griffin
On 07/15/2011 02:28 PM, Frank Griffin wrote: Has anyone else noticed that as of updating yesterday or today, the windows in KDE have no titlebars, and cannot be moved or closed (except through the individual app) ? I used to see this occasionally under GNOME 2.32, but logging out/in again

Re: [Mageia-dev] kernel 3.0 is a big mistake in cauldron

2011-07-16 Thread Frank Griffin
On 07/16/2011 07:29 AM, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU wrote: you still can use the kernel 2.6 which is installed on your machine, installing a newer kernel doesn't uninstall the previous one. yes, I can, but only because I've edited menu.lst _manually_. the new kernel added 2 grub entries, at the end,

Re: [Mageia-dev] Current cauldron updates want to install 32-bit versions that conflict with 64-bit versions

2011-07-18 Thread Frank Griffin
On 07/18/2011 12:40 PM, Ahmad Samir wrote: okular needs to be updated (or the libpoppler-qt4-devel provides re-added). Fixed, okular now uses the pkgconfig() BR. Thanks !

Re: [Mageia-dev] Where is the KDE WM ?

2011-07-18 Thread Frank Griffin
On 07/16/2011 01:39 PM, Colin Guthrie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Ahmad Samir at 16/07/11 09:06 did gyre and gimble: On 15 July 2011 23:20, Colin Guthriemag...@colin.guthr.ie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Balcaen John at 15/07/11 20:16 did gyre and gimble: I just finished to push compiz 0.8.8

[Mageia-dev] maven packages not replacing older ones - conflict results

2011-07-19 Thread Frank Griffin
[root@ftgme2 ftg]# urpmi --auto-select --debug getting lock on urpmi parsing: /etc/urpmi/mediacfg.d/Devel-1-x86_64 examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Release/synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Release Debug/synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining synthesis file

Re: [Mageia-dev] maven packages not replacing older ones - conflict results

2011-07-19 Thread Frank Griffin
On 07/19/2011 12:08 PM, Frank Griffin wrote: auto-select: adding maven2-2.2.1-72.mga2.noarch replacing maven2-2.2.1-70.mga1.noarch Actually, it looks like it *is* supposed to replace, so why the conflicts ?

[Mageia-dev] Missing KDE rebuilds ?

2011-07-29 Thread Frank Griffin
For a couple of days now: [root@ftgme2 ftg]# urpmi --auto-select --debug getting lock on urpmi parsing: /etc/urpmi/mediacfg.d/Devel-1-x86_64 examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Release/synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Release

[Mageia-dev] KDE conflicts, possibly related to previous mail

2011-07-29 Thread Frank Griffin
installing task-kde4-minimal-4.7.0-1.mga2.noarch.rpm kde-l10n-es-4.7.0-1.mga2.noarch.rpm kde-l10n-fr-4.7.0-1.mga2.noarch.rpm kde-l10n-en_US-4.7.0-1.mga2.noarch.rpm kde-l10n-en_GB-4.7.0-1.mga2.noarch.rpm kde-l10n-it-4.7.0-1.mga2.noarch.rpm task-kde4-4.7.0-1.mga2.noarch.rpm

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME3/GDM

2011-08-01 Thread Frank Griffin
On 08/01/2011 10:59 AM, Kira wrote: 在 Mon, 01 Aug 2011 22:55:02 +0800, Frank Griffin f...@roadrunner.com 寫道: I tried GDM and GNOME3 after the latest metacity update for registration, to see if the Alt-F4 mess and other anomalies were gone. The Alt-F4 mess seems to be, but there have been

[Mageia-dev] Cauldron Install borked

2011-08-05 Thread Frank Griffin
Doing a fresh install, after partitioning but before package selection (last popup shows looking for installed packages), you get an error panel saying: An error occurred rm of /mnt/var/cache/urpmi/mirrors.cache failed: No such file or directory Clicking OK sends you back to disk partitioning

Re: [Mageia-dev] Cauldron Install borked

2011-08-05 Thread Frank Griffin
On 08/05/2011 12:24 PM, Frank Griffin wrote: Doing a fresh install, after partitioning but before package selection (last popup shows looking for installed packages), you get an error panel saying: An error occurred rm of /mnt/var/cache/urpmi/mirrors.cache failed: No such file or directory

Re: [Mageia-dev] Cauldron Install borked

2011-08-05 Thread Frank Griffin
On 08/05/2011 03:12 PM, Thierry Vignaud wrote: Just fixed in SVN Thanks !

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