Re: [Mailman-Users] GNU Mailman roadmap

* Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org: [...] Here's the plan: Mark is going to put a 2.1.13 bug fix release out soon and will continue to fix only the most important bugs on the 2.1 branch. He'll forward port those fixes to the 2.2 branch for the few people who are running it from source, but there

Re: [Mailman-Users] Using Mailman with Multi Mail Server

an SMTPHOST wit a DNS record pointing to several addresses (I'm not really sure about this one, perhaps Mark could clarify). Cheers Stefan -- Stefan Förster http://www.incertum.net/ Public Key: 0xBBE2A9E9 Wer schläft, sündigt nicht

Re: [Mailman-Users] OT: Yahoo Deferrals

is suspended. I suggest you give it a try once and compare the results. I further suggest checking you logs and looking for scache entries (conn_use=x in delivery lines and it's own scache entries). Ciao Stefan -- Stefan Förster http://www.incertum.net/ Public Key: 0xBBE2A9E9 Recursive

Re: [Mailman-Users] OT: Yahoo Deferrals

and slow_delivery_rate_delay = 1s in main.cf This, OTOH, is a pretty interesting choice - you do limit yourself to 100 * 3600 mails per hour (you didn't show any slow_destination_concurrency_limit settings, so I'm assuming stock process limits) and that really makes a difference? Ciao Stefan -- Stefan Förster

Re: [Mailman-Users] MM admin interface wide open

* Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net: Mark Sapiro wrote: Ulf Hofemeier wrote: PS. if you email me, I can provide you with the URL to my MM installation. If you send it to me, I'll check it out. After a little off list back and forth, Ulf wrote: I had no site admin password set.

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + postfix = strange behaviour

* Marek Kozlowski kozlo...@mini.pw.edu.pl: :-) I have Gentoo, Postfix and Mailman I've configured according to http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node13.html The bahaviour is very strange: - mail do my mailing list goes to ML archive -- OK - if there are wrong

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + postfix = strange behaviour

* Marek Kozlowski kozlo...@mini.pw.edu.pl: Stefan Förster wrote: There is a wiki entry for this at http://wiki.list.org/x/A4E9 which describes various strategies to troubleshoot this problem. In my personal experience, this is a very helpful ressource, and checking everything

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + postfix = strange behaviour

* Marek Kozlowski kozlo...@mini.pw.edu.pl: The message is delivered to a maildir store. I guess this is not a Mailman problem, but a Postfix one. Perhaps you got address rewriting wrong - is the mail really supposed to be delivered to kozlo...@alpha.mini.pw.edu.pl with the local(8) delivery

Re: [Mailman-Users] Strange Wiki entry for Postfix Tuning

* Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net: Stefan Förster wrote: list_lists | awk '(NR 1){print $1}' | \ or list_lists --bare | \ Thank you, tbh, I didn't read list_lists manpage. I'm running a Debian package of Mailman and I know that it is modified, I just don't know to which extent

Re: [Mailman-Users] Strange Wiki entry for Postfix Tuning

* Ralf Hildebrandt ralf.hildebra...@charite.de: * Stefan Förster cite+mailman-us...@incertum.net: | smtp_mx_session_limit (default: 2) While I can certainly imagine larger sites having somewhere between five to ten MXs, 100 seems a bit... oversized. maybe it tries to set a very hight

[Mailman-Users] Strange Wiki entry for Postfix Tuning

Hello, I've discovered that the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/rIA9 mentions to set smtp_mx_session_limit=100. While normally, I would reject such a suggestion as outright wrong, I noticed that this were comments made by Barry Knowles, and you don't just ignore hints from someone with that much

Re: [Mailman-Users] Strange Wiki entry for Postfix Tuning

* Ralf Hildebrandt ralf.hildebra...@charite.de: Bary Warsaw or Brad Knowles. According to my knowledge they haven't married. I might be wrong though. Barry, Brad, I apologize. No offense intended. Lack of coffee. Cheers Stefan --

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help!! Spam Flood!

* Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: There are many tools available for dealing with spam at this level that are much more effective than Mailman is. Since I've read this several times in the past months, it makes me wonder if it is planned to drop some of the content filtering features that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Message Delays

this is a mailman problem at all. Cheers Stefan -- Stefan Förster http://www.incertum.net/ Public Key: 0xBBE2A9E9 Der Preis der Freiheit ist ewige Wachsamkeit! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] Rewriting or identifying late bounces

* Brad Knowles b...@shub-internet.org wrote: on 7/8/09 6:12 PM, Stefan Förster said: Thanks for your advice, Brad. The problem is that, due to policy reasons, outgoing mail has to pass a content filter, running locally on the Mailman box. With VERP... Chuq von Rospach wrote some stuff

Re: [Mailman-Users] Rewriting or identifying late bounces

* Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: Stefan Förster wrote: generated by recipi...@intern.example.com mailbox is full: retry timeout exceeded Is there any way to rewrite those addresses or to help Mailman identify those bounces correctly? And yes, this a pretty stupid thing to do

Re: [Mailman-Users] Rewriting or identifying late bounces

* Brad Knowles b...@shub-internet.org wrote: on 7/8/09 11:56 AM, Stefan Förster said: Bummer. There is no way to implement that, our mailing list server is already suffering from too much traffic, it's quite old hardware, after all. Take a look at the stuff on performance tuning in the FAQ

[Mailman-Users] Rewriting or identifying late bounces

correctly? And yes, this a pretty stupid thing to do on their ISPs part... Ciao Stefan -- Stefan Förster http://www.incertum.net/ Public Key: 0xBBE2A9E9 You're here because you know something...you can't explain but you feel it... that there's something wrong with the world. --Morpheus

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to unshunt?

) where command is one of the binaries you can execute (i.e. without a leading ./ in mailman/bin) will probably enlighten you :-) Ciao Stefan -- Stefan Förster http://www.incertum.net/ Public Key: 0xBBE2A9E9 -- Mailman-Users mailing list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman + Postfix - Too Many Connections

/QSHAPE_README.html#backlog Ciao Stefan -- Stefan Förster http://www.incertum.net/ Public Key: 0xBBE2A9E9 Eher hält der Mensch das Feuer im Munde als ein Geheimnis. - Petronius -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives and International Character Sets(Mailman2.1.11)

for that language and after that recreate the archive files? Ciao Stefan -- Stefan Förster http://www.incertum.net/ Public Key: 0xBBE2A9E9 The brain is a wonderful organ. It starts working the moment you get up in the morning, and does not stop until you get into the office. -- Robert

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recommended way to get subscriber list with full names?

service called launchd. You can use both of them to create the required output periodically. If you did not create a dedicated user for Mailman during installation then I'm out of ideas. Ciao Stefan -- Stefan Förster http://www.incertum.net/ Public Key: 0xBBE2A9E9 FdI #203: Öffentliche

Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix, Mailman, and postfix-to-mailman.py trouble

*not* see mailman_destination_recipient_limit listed in the output. That seems to me to indicate to me that it's not being honored. That's perfectly normal - any custom variables defined in main.cf don't show in postconf -n output. Ciao Stefan -- Stefan Förster http://www.incertum.net

Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix, Mailman, and postfix-to-mailman.py trouble

Followup to myself: * Stefan Förster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Craig Stacey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: master.cf: mailmancom unix - n n - - pipe flags=FR user=list argv=/www/lists.example.com/bin/postfix-to- mailman.py ${nexthop} ${user} mailmanorg unix

[Mailman-Users] Feature reqeust for wiki.list.org - short URLs

Hello world, first of all, the Mailman wiki at http://wiki.list.org/ is really very helpful. I've come to find it's structure very clean and easy to understand. Especially the FAQ part is very, very helpful and saved me lots of time when trying to troubleshoot a problem. But - there is one thing

Re: [Mailman-Users] Default cahrset for 'de' to ISO8859-15/UTF-8?

* Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stefan Förster wrote: I wonder if there are any plans to change the default charset for the 'de' locale of Mailman to anything else than ISO8859-1, because this charset cannot even represent our current currency symbol. There are no short term plans

[Mailman-Users] Default cahrset for 'de' to ISO8859-15/UTF-8?

(for exmaple, in Switzerland, there are people who might be interested in running a mailing list with a 'de' or 'fr' locale, but they don't use the 'Euro' as currency there). Cheers Stefan -- Stefan Förster http://www.incertum.net/ Public Key: 0xBBE2A9E9 Insanity isn't a disease, it's a way of life

Re: [Mailman-Users] Any way to prevent un-subscribing?

can reset passwords. Remove the listname-request alias, too, so students can't use Mailman's advanced features to unsubscribe themselves. Probably not what you wanted to hear, isn't it? Ciao Stefan -- Stefan Förster http://www.incertum.net/ Public Key: 0xBBE2A9E9 FdI #241: Performance

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recipients missing on list post

* Stefan Förster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure if this is better, but if your Python is 2.4 or later, see http://wiki.list.org/x/-IA9 for a patch that can be applied to Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py to produce copious debugging output from

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recipients missing on list post

* Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stefan Förster wrote: Now, 22+26+19+158 equals 225 and not 226 - no rejected mails, no NOQUEUE entries. Either Postfix or Mailman is lying. How can I find out which one it is, aside from running ngrep/tcpdump? I'm not sure if this is better

Re: [Mailman-Users] Authorization required with FireFox 3

. Ciao Stefan -- Stefan Förster http://www.incertum.net/ Public Key: 0xBBE2A9E9 FdI #297: extensiv getestet - Bislang verschwiegener Bestandteil der letzten Lieferung (Lutz Donnerhacke) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org

[Mailman-Users] Recipients missing on list post

it is, aside from running ngrep/tcpdump? Which additional configuration data do I have to provide to aid in remote debugging this? Ciao Stefan -- Stefan Förster http://www.incertum.net/ Public Key: 0xBBE2A9E9 FdI #68: WWW - World Wide Waiting

Re: [Mailman-Users] Queue problems

,reject -o smtpd_data_restrictions=reject_unauth_pipelining -o smtpd_end_of_data_restrictions= -o smtpd_delay_reject=no -o local_header_rewrite_clients= Cheers Stefan -- Stefan Förster http://www.incertum.net/ Public Key: 0xBBE2A9E9

Re: [Mailman-Users] Queue problems

an NXDOMAIN (as opposed to a SERVFAIL) with a permanent error code instead of creating a bounce? Ciao Stefan -- Stefan Förster http://www.incertum.net/ Public Key: 0xBBE2A9E9 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http

Re: [Mailman-Users] distributing of the mail is not ok

MTAs is described here: http://www.list.org/mailman-install/mail-server.html Cheers Stefan -- Stefan Förster http://www.incertum.net/ Public Key: 0xBBE2A9E9 Mac OS X: Eating ~/.signature files since 2003. -- Mailman-Users mailing

Re: [Mailman-Users] distributing of the mail is not ok

Am 09.06.2008 um 16:05 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Stefan Förster wrote: Am 09.06.2008 um 10:16 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I installed mailman. I created a mailing list to test if mailman works fine or not. Well, mailman seems alsmot to work but there is just a problem. Let's assume, I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail getting stuck in queue

that immediately comes to my mind are excessive errors - after more than smtpd_soft_error_limit, this kind of slowdown is exactly what happens. Cheers Stefan -- Stefan Förster http://www.incertum.net/ Public Key: 0xBBE2A9E9 Mac OS X ate my ~/.signature

Re: [Mailman-Users] server load..

, and a cooperative I/O subsystem, can handle a million messages an hour. [...] I hope that this will offer some insight into what modern MTAs are capable off. Cheers Stefan -- Stefan Förster http://www.incertum.net/ Public Key: 0xBBE2A9E9 Still amiss: ~/.signature

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Address Format

-- Stefan Förster http://www.incertum.net/ Public Key: 0xBBE2A9E9 Free speech tastes better than free beer. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http

Re: [Mailman-Users] virtual domains

the maps are updated. Using CBD tables help's a lot here, safe for the much smaller memory footprint. Cheers Stefan -- Stefan Förster http://www.incertum.net/ Public Key: 0xBBE2A9E9 Science is what happens when preconception meets verification

Re: [Mailman-Users] excessive bounce notifications..

* Khalil Abbas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recieve over 2000 messages from mailman-bounces every day with subject: Uncaught bounce notification.. and when opening any message it's nothing but another Spam Ad about pills or shoes or other stuff.. how can I stop these ADs from being sent to my

Re: [Mailman-Users] excessive bounce notifications..

Damnit, that is * Stefan Förster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: easily handle around 7k rejected mails per second on 100 concurrent, per MINUTE, ofc! Ciao Stefan -- Stefan Förster http://www.incertum.net/ Public Key: 0xBBE2A9E9 ...And god said, let there be a Satan, so people won't blame

Re: [Mailman-Users] Don`t get my mailinglist to run (mailman postfix)

to define an alias from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (and of course, the MX record for my_adress.de must point to that particular server). Ciao Stefan -- Stefan Förster http://www.incertum.net/ Public Key: 0xBBE2A9E9 FdI #306: Shockwave Flash - Augenkrebs (Felix von Leitner

Re: [Mailman-Users] server load..

. Ciao Stefan -- Stefan Förster http://www.incertum.net/ Public Key: 0xBBE2A9E9 Aut agere aut mori. (Either action or death.) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] Dealing with multiple charsets (list messages and web archive)

Hello Mark, if you feel this is getting too technical for mailman-users, please let me know. I'd also like to discuss chunkify in SMTPDDirect - is the developers list the right place for that? * Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stefan Förster wrote: What kind of signatures do you mean

Re: [Mailman-Users] Dealing with multiple charsets (list messages and web archive)

] I think I'm beginning to like Python. Cheers Stefan -- Stefan Förster http://www.incertum.net/ Public Key: 0xBBE2A9E9 FdI #186: Admin-Handy - Elektronisches Würgehalsband (Holger Köpke) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users

[Mailman-Users] Dealing with multiple charsets (list messages and web archive)

for clarification. -- Stefan Förster http://www.incertum.net/ Public Key: 0xBBE2A9E9 FdI #320: Softwarewartung - Flags putzen, Strukturen nachrichten und Variablen mit Öl auffüllen. (Hans Bonfigt) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Dealing with multiple charsets (list messages and web archive)

Foolow-up to myself: * Stefan Förster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sometimes living outside of the U.S., or better said, living otside us-ascii can be a real pain. Let me explain, considerning a default installation for a list with default language de. The LC_DESCRIPTIONS dictionary will include

Re: [Mailman-Users] Dealing with multiple charsets (list messages and web archive)

* Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stefan Förster wrote: I've read http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.039.htp I still would like to do charset conversion on MIME encapsulated messages. We do our best not to let HTML message trhough to the list address, so we

Re: [Mailman-Users] Command line modification of user options?

* Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there an easy way to do this from the command-line? Or perhaps somebody has a script? There is a withlist script at http://www.msapiro.net/scripts/reset_bounce.py; mirrored at http://fog.ccsf.edu/~msapiro/scripts/reset_bounce.py and

Re: [Mailman-Users] List of owners and subscribers

Throw in a * Stefan Förster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: list_lists | awk '(NR 1){print $1}' | while read line; do echo List: $line list_admins $line list_members -f $line done exactly there ;) And ofc, this now assumes that list_admins is in your $PATH, too. Cheers Stefan

Re: [Mailman-Users] List of owners and subscribers

* Melinda Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone out there put together and scripts that might extract out owners and subscribers to a list. Where you could see all the list and all their subscribers in one place. My English is not that good and I'm not really sure if I understand what

Re: [Mailman-Users] How many bounces

come in handy. Ciao Stefan -- Stefan Förster http://www.incertum.net/ Public Key: 0xBBE2A9E9 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi

Re: [Mailman-Users] gmail to hotmail problem

before? Or know if there is anything to do about it? hotmail.com is notoriously known for silently discarding mails. Try a search on the mailing lists for your favourite MTA (Postfix, Exim, whatever). Have a look at: http://postmaster.msn.com/Services.aspx#SenderSolutions Ciao Stefan -- Stefan