On Wed, 14 Feb 2024, Tim Houseman wrote:
Thanks for the response. I thought this was the answer but it is nice to
have confirmation. I'd love to tell my client that they need better trained
subscribers but the only answer I ever get is "Training our membership is
not an option" when there
On Mon, 12 Feb 2024, Mark Sapiro wrote:
The larger problem notwithstanding, the OP's situation is much simpler. He
doesn't want to remove irrelevant quotes from incoming mail. He only wants to
remove the specific list footer.
This could probably be done in Mailman's incoming runner, but
On 2/12/24 5:30 AM, Richard wrote:
A VERY straight-forward strategy would be to diff the current inbound
against the previous one it was in reply to - using threading as already
cited. No LLM is needed, well trained or otherwise, and neither is it
"quite complex." It's surely far easier than
On 2/12/24 10:32, Carl Zwanzig wrote:
On 2/12/2024 5:30 AM, Richard wrote:
That's just silly: We've had "diff" for over THREE full decades now,
to say nothing of the variants.
And diff is going to fail for this, at least part of the time.
The obvious solution is to have an empty footer,
On 2/12/2024 5:30 AM, Richard wrote:
That's just silly: We've had "diff" for over THREE full decades now, to say
nothing of the variants.
And diff is going to fail for this, at least part of the time.
A VERY straight-forward strategy would be to diff the current inbound
against the previous
On Mon, 12 Feb 2024, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
...snip...
Otherwise, not generically, short of plugging in a well-trained LLM.
The problem is that quoting conventions etc differ across mail
clients, as do signature blocks. If the signature appears below the
quoted footer, it will
On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 12:02 PM Stephen J. Turnbull <
turnbull.stephen...@u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote:
> Carl Zwanzig writes:
>
> > And unfortunately, solving "people problems" with technology seldom
> > ends well.
>
> I find that using appropriate technology often helps me be a less
> problematic
Carl Zwanzig writes:
> And unfortunately, solving "people problems" with technology seldom
> ends well.
I find that using appropriate technology often helps me be a less
problematic people. :-)
Steve
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On 2/10/24 09:56, Carl Zwanzig wrote:
(arguments for top posting and not trimming quotes-
"But it's got the entire conversation in the message! You never need the
older messages"
"You say that like it's a good thing, and I already -have- the older
messages. In my inbox.")
And more
On 2/9/2024 3:31 PM, H Ian Zhang via Mailman-Users wrote:
This is, of course, an organisational/educationl issue, not a technical one.
And unfortunately, solving "people problems" with technology seldom ends well.
(arguments for top posting and not trimming quotes-
"But it's got the entire
On 2/9/2024 10:57 AM, Carl Zwanzig wrote:
On 2/8/2024 3:24 PM, Tim Houseman wrote:
Is it possible for footers to only be attached once? I am hosting a legal
mailing list and their footer is quite long. We recently updated to
Mailman 3 and the list has become more active as a result but in that
On 2/9/24 12:21, Mark Sapiro wrote:
...
You could try putting a `-- ` line at the beginning of the footer to
make it look like a signature. At least some MUAs do not include
signatures in quoted material in replies.
However if you have a signature and a footer, both delimited with "--
\n",
On 2/8/24 15:24, Tim Houseman wrote:
Is it possible for footers to only be attached once? I am hosting a legal
mailing list and their footer is quite long. We recently updated to Mailman 3
and the list has become more active as a result but in that activity the users
have noticed that the
On 2/8/2024 3:24 PM, Tim Houseman wrote:
Is it possible for footers to only be attached once? I am hosting a legal
mailing list and their footer is quite long. We recently updated to
Mailman 3 and the list has become more active as a result but in that
activity the users have noticed that the
Brad Knowles wrote:
The messages may appear to be plain text, but they may be sent in
a MIME bodypart type that makes it difficult to handle them well. This
is especially likely if you have overseas clients sending e-mail to a
mailing list hosted in English. In this case, this is a problem
Jim Tittsler wrote:
[...]
Ah. I think *I* was *that* person.
Sorry, I had to parse a forwarded copy of one part of the start of the
thread. I even think the exchange was in PM, at least in part, so I
quess you are right :)
[...]
Ah! Python's smtplib module grew support for SMTP auth in
On Sat, Jun 19, 2004 at 09:24:52PM +0200, Stefan Waidele jun. wrote:
Brad Knowles wrote:
At 12:17 PM -0400 2004-06-17, Anita Lewis wrote:
I don't have root privilege on the server. The person who does made
the new list.
I am that person. Hi I'm Stefan :)
You suggested (in a PM to
At 9:24 PM +0200 2004-06-19, Stefan Waidele jun. wrote:
I have not much knowledge in python. I renamed the Sendmail.pyc so the
new source would be compiled. While the list still works, there is no
new compiled version in the directory. Strange.
You need to stop and restart Mailman, using
Brad Knowles wrote:
At 7:21 AM -0400 2004-06-17, Anita Lewis wrote:
We even tried making a new list and left everything at default. The
footer is the default. That isn't working either. I don't think it is
the footer if the default doesn't work.
Hmm. Did you stop and restart mailman
Brad Knowles wrote:
At 12:17 PM -0400 2004-06-17, Anita Lewis wrote:
I don't have root privilege on the server. The person who does made
the new list.
I am that person. Hi I'm Stefan :)
You suggested (in a PM to Anita, I think) that we add more logging into
.../Mailman/Handlers/Decorate.py
At 7:21 AM -0400 2004-06-17, Anita Lewis wrote:
We even tried making a new list and left everything at default. The
footer is the default. That isn't working either. I don't think it is
the footer if the default doesn't work.
Hmm. Did you stop and restart mailman after making changes?
At 8:04 PM -0400 2004-06-16, Anita Lewis wrote:
Current with no footer:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4
Previous with footer:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252;
Brad Knowles wrote:
At 5:34 AM -0400 2004-06-16, Anita Lewis wrote:
We are sending only text messages to the list. I don't see how this
would apply. We have Mailman installed on a Suse 9.1 box. I saw a
post
about language making problems. The computer is in Germany, but the
language for the
Brad Knowles wrote:
At 12:12 PM -0400 2004-06-16, Anita Lewis wrote:
They are on a webhost - complete different server and domain. Ours is
on a dedicated server that one of us has root access to. I just
mention
about our posting to the other lists, because it shows that our emails
are not
At 5:34 AM -0400 2004-06-16, Anita Lewis wrote:
We are sending only text messages to the list. I don't see how this
would apply. We have Mailman installed on a Suse 9.1 box. I saw a post
about language making problems. The computer is in Germany, but the
language for the lists is set to
Brad Knowles wrote:
At 1:37 PM -0400 2004-06-15, Anita Lewis wrote:
Young, Darren wrote:
Trying to get a footer on every mail sent to a given list's members.
Added the options in the page and still they aren't added to the
bottom\
of the member's messages. Mailman version 2.0.11.
In the
Young, Darren wrote:
Trying to get a footer on every mail sent to a given list's members. Added the options in the page and still they aren't added to the bottom of the member's messages. Mailman version 2.0.11.
In the regular member (non-digest) options section, under the footer added to
At 1:37 PM -0400 2004-06-15, Anita Lewis wrote:
Young, Darren wrote:
Trying to get a footer on every mail sent to a given list's members.
Added the options in the page and still they aren't added to the bottom\
of the member's messages. Mailman version 2.0.11.
In the regular member
Jason Marty schrieb:
Does anyone know how to change the email footer I cannot find it in
templates.
On your list's admin page.
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Brad: Thanks for your response.
It's easy enough to change the templates, but if any of your
mailing list owners have shell access to the server, they might be
able to change them back.
We don't provide any shell access, but won't list admins be able to change
the footer using the web
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