Re: [Mailman-Users] Maximum attachment size

2019-06-05 Thread Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
On 6/5/19 3:59 PM, Robert Heller wrote: I wonder if this is *mailman* or your MTA that is complaining... It might also be a webserver thing trying to react to the pending moderators request / hold screen (page). -- Grant. . . . unix || die smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Sig

Re: [Mailman-Users] Maximum attachment size

2019-06-05 Thread Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
On 6/5/19 3:18 PM, Bryan Blackwell wrote: Hi folks, Hi, I've run into an apparent limit in size - we send newsletters through one of our lists, and they can get large. One in particular runs over 20MB, and I get an error on the held messages page trying to process it. I'm guessing that yo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Maximum attachment size

2019-06-05 Thread Robert Heller
At Wed, 5 Jun 2019 17:18:04 -0400 Bryan Blackwell wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I've run into an apparent limit in size - we send newsletters through one of > our lists, and they can get large. One in particular runs over 20MB, and I > get an error on the held messages page trying to process it. Cu

Re: [Mailman-Users] From Address for 'mailpasswds'

2019-06-05 Thread Dennis Putnam
Hi Mark, After looking at this a bit I have a question. Are the strings 'owner', 'request' and 'bounces' appended to the list name? list1-owner@domain list1-request@domain list1-bounces@domain On 6/5/2019 1:21 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 6/5/19 8:55 AM, Dennis Putnam wrote: >> I am trying to sen

Re: [Mailman-Users] From Address for 'mailpasswds'

2019-06-05 Thread Dennis Putnam
Hi Mark, I am using U-Verse which means the domain and from address of my Linux server are fake. I tried setting up translation in Postfix (generic) but it does not seem to work for this particular address. I'll try your suggestion. Thanks. On 6/5/2019 1:21 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 6/5/19 8:55

Re: [Mailman-Users] From Address for 'mailpasswds'

2019-06-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 6/5/19 8:55 AM, Dennis Putnam wrote: > I am trying to send a monthly reminder using 'mailman > /usr/lib/mailman/cron/mailpasswds'. However, the messages bounce due to > an invalid from address. How can I change the script to use a valid from > address? Thanks. Why is the From: invalid? it is t

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce mail transfer

2019-06-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 6/5/19 12:43 AM, Masaharu Kawada wrote: > > About what you said above, do you mean it's supposed to be like below? > > $ cat alias_overrides > --- > ISTNAME-bounces: "|/path/to/mailman/mail/mailman bounces LISTNAME" > t...@domain.com > --- No. the first line should be copied from the exis

Re: [Mailman-Users] Message not removeable

2019-06-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 6/4/19 1:41 PM, Paul van der Vlis wrote: > Op 04-06-19 om 22:05 schreef Mark Sapiro: >> On 6/4/19 3:30 AM, Paul van der Vlis wrote: >>> >>> In one of the mailinglists came a message what's to big. I've changed >>> max_message_size but it was not possible to send the message. Now I want >>> to re

Re: [Mailman-Users] Message not removeable

2019-06-05 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Op 04-06-19 om 22:05 schreef Mark Sapiro: > On 6/4/19 3:30 AM, Paul van der Vlis wrote: >> >> In one of the mailinglists came a message what's to big. I've changed >> max_message_size but it was not possible to send the message. Now I want >> to remove the message, but that's also not possible, it

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce mail transfer

2019-06-05 Thread Masaharu Kawada
Mark-san, Very sorry to ask you directly. One question about the format of the alias configuration in 'alias_overrides' you mensioned. --- LISTNAME-bounces: "|/path/to/mailman/mail/mailman bounces LISTNAME" copy that one line exactly to alias_overrides and then add a second line beginning wit

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce mail transfer

2019-06-04 Thread Masaharu Kawada
Hello Mark-san, I very much appreciate your answer and that was a big help. I think the second method you gave me that using alias_overrides is the one I need. Thanks a million! Masaharu Kawada On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 9:38 AM Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 6/4/19 4:55 PM, Masaharu Kawada wrote: > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce mail transfer

2019-06-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 6/4/19 4:55 PM, Masaharu Kawada wrote: > > Are there any ways to have a bounce mail transferred to a specific user( > ex:t...@domain.com) instead of the mail sender? > > I haven't been able to find any ways within Mailman configuration, but I > just wonder if we can make it by using any method

Re: [Mailman-Users] Message not removeable

2019-06-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 6/4/19 3:30 AM, Paul van der Vlis wrote: > > In one of the mailinglists came a message what's to big. I've changed > max_message_size but it was not possible to send the message. Now I want > to remove the message, but that's also not possible, it still is there > and the list-owner gets messag

Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrated Mailman to another server

2019-06-03 Thread Ryan McClung
One of the teams working on the migration project with me did not do the DNS switchover. It wasn't a mailman problem -- it was a PEBCAK :) On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 4:49 PM Dave Stevens wrote: > On Fri, 31 May 2019 14:34:19 -0400 > Ryan McClung wrote: > > > I figured it out. > > what was the fix?

Re: [Mailman-Users] Easy question for this crowd

2019-06-02 Thread Chip Davis
I wish. All my listservers are on various shared hosts running cPanel. An experience not unlike making love in haz-mat suits... :-/ -Chip- On 6/2/2019 11:17 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 6/2/19 7:49 AM, Chip Davis wrote: Thanks to Mark's help crafting the proper RE, I haven't had an '.icu' UC

Re: [Mailman-Users] Easy question for this crowd

2019-06-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 6/2/19 7:49 AM, Chip Davis wrote: > > Thanks to Mark's help crafting the proper RE, I haven't had an '.icu' > UCE in over 15 hours (knock wood). If you have access to Mailman's logs, the discards are logged in the 'vette' log with entries like Message discarded, msgid: <...> -- Mark Sapiro

Re: [Mailman-Users] Easy question for this crowd

2019-06-02 Thread Chip Davis
No, and No. Apparently you missed my original post (5/30 11:57AM) on this topic where I asked if my RE that would do exactly that. I've supported a dozen Mailman listservers for over a dozen years. This doesn't represent much real effort most of the time. I've had to block specific users of

Re: [Mailman-Users] question about email automation

2019-06-02 Thread Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
On 5/30/19 8:04 AM, Fabian A. Santiago wrote: Hello, Hi, i run a mailing list on mm 2.x. periodically i send out an event opening email to the list. this is typically followed by a conclusion email at the end of a specific period. How specific is the period? Is the end known at the start,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Easy question for this crowd

2019-06-01 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 6/1/19 1:44 PM, Chip Davis wrote: > I guess my question wasn't so "easy" after all ... :-( > > What was a daily trickle is now a flood of UCE from different domains > in the .icu TLD. I hope someone can suggest some sort of prophylaxis > that I haven't tried. Do you get any actual, legitim

Re: [Mailman-Users] Easy question for this crowd

2019-06-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 6/1/19 10:44 AM, Chip Davis wrote: > > Is it possible that 'general_nonmember_action = Hold' is overriding my > Spam Filter Rule?  I still need to intercept legitimate subscribers who > attempt to post under a different address, depending on which device > they happen to be using.  :-/ You ne

Re: [Mailman-Users] Easy question for this crowd

2019-06-01 Thread Chip Davis
I guess my question wasn't so "easy" after all ... :-( What was a daily trickle is now a flood of UCE from different domains in the .icu TLD. I hope someone can suggest some sort of prophylaxis that I haven't tried. Is it possible that 'general_nonmember_action = Hold' is overriding my Spa

Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrated Mailman to another server

2019-05-31 Thread Dave Stevens
On Fri, 31 May 2019 14:34:19 -0400 Ryan McClung wrote: > I figured it out. what was the fix? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3

Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrated Mailman to another server

2019-05-31 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 5/31/2019 11:34 AM, Ryan McClung wrote: Close this. I figured it out. What was the problem? z! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/

Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrated Mailman to another server

2019-05-31 Thread Ryan McClung
Close this. I figured it out. On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 1:47 PM Ryan McClung wrote: > Greetings, > > Migrated mailman to another server and updated it. > > Site Admin can see the pending queue on all lists but the lists > owners/administrators cannot. > > Running Centos7 and current build of mailm

Re: [Mailman-Users] Easy question for this crowd

2019-05-31 Thread Chip Davis
Thanks, Mark. I hadn't thought of the "from:" being embedded in the Subject: header. And your RE correction makes perfect sense once I see it. ;-) I'm pretty sure I don't have access to 'mm.config.[anything]' so I assume it's the default value. Odds are, it was my imperfect RE that was kee

Re: [Mailman-Users] Easy question for this crowd

2019-05-31 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/30/19 9:20 PM, Chip Davis wrote: > > About 12 hours after I put that RE in place, I got another one from a > different domain in '.icu'.  It was held for moderation, not > automatically discarded. > > I have: >   8 email addresses in accept_these_nonmembers >   0 email addresses in hold_thes

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why are mails not being sent to all users (mails seem to disappear)?

2019-05-30 Thread Till Dörges
Am 31.05.19 um 02:46 schrieb Steven D'Aprano: > On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 07:22:38PM +0200, Till Dörges wrote: > >> I figured it out. And it was neither a Mailman nor a Postfix problem. >> >> systemd-journald simply enforced some rate limiting. After removing it >> (setting >> RateLimitBurst=0 in /

Re: [Mailman-Users] Easy question for this crowd

2019-05-30 Thread Chip Davis
Well, it was worth a try. :-/ About 12 hours after I put that RE in place, I got another one from a different domain in '.icu'. It was held for moderation, not automatically discarded. I have: 8 email addresses in accept_these_nonmembers 0 email addresses in hold_these_nonmembers 0 ema

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why are mails not being sent to all users (mails seem to disappear)?

2019-05-30 Thread Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users
On 5/30/19 7:46 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Or that systemd prevented the emails from being sent in the first place, > and didn't log the fact that it had done so? I don't think systemd metastasized its own smtpd just yet, so it probably can't do that. Fear not, though, it has its own DNS resol

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why are mails not being sent to all users (mails seem to disappear)?

2019-05-30 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 07:22:38PM +0200, Till Dörges wrote: > I figured it out. And it was neither a Mailman nor a Postfix problem. > > systemd-journald simply enforced some rate limiting. After removing it > (setting > RateLimitBurst=0 in /etc/systemd/journald.conf), delivery for all mails can

Re: [Mailman-Users] Easy question for this crowd

2019-05-30 Thread Robert Heller
At Thu, 30 May 2019 11:57:44 -0400 Chip Davis wrote: > > I've supported a dozen Mailman listservers for over a dozen years. > This doesn't represent much real effort most of the time. I've had to > block specific users often and specific domains rarely, but this is > the first time I've had

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why are mails not being sent to all users (mails seem to disappear)?

2019-05-30 Thread Till Dörges
Am 09.05.19 um 23:33 schrieb Mark Sapiro: > On 5/9/19 2:06 PM, Till Dörges wrote: >> Curiously for the message that was not delivered to the specific user I did >> /not/ >> find a message by Postfix like the following in /var/log/mail: [...] >> To me that looks as if Postfix did in deed not compl

Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrating to a new server with upgraded mailman, should I copy qfiles ?

2019-05-29 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/29/19 1:34 PM, Ian Kelling wrote: > https://wiki.list.org/DOC/How%20do%20I%20move%20a%20list%20to%20a%20different%20server-Mailman%20installation. > The linked examples don't show copying the qfiles directory. I'm > migrating a very busy server (lists.gnu.org), that always has lots of > queue

Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading mm 2.1.26 on Ubuntu 18.04 to 2.1.29

2019-05-23 Thread Fabian A. Santiago
> It probably is permissions on the logs and others. Have you run > check_perms. If not run `check_perms -f` as root. Don't worry about > symlinks, they don't matter. that did it, finally! check_perms -f. thanks for your help. finally on 2.1.29 now. all seems to be working now. -- Fabian S.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading mm 2.1.26 on Ubuntu 18.04 to 2.1.29

2019-05-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/23/19 10:41 AM, Fabian A. Santiago wrote: > On 5/23/19 1:29 PM, Fabian A. Santiago wrote: >> On 5/23/19 12:11 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >>> >>> What's in Mailman's error log? >>> >>> >> nothing. It probably is permissions on the logs and others. Have you run check_perms. If not run `check_perms

Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading mm 2.1.26 on Ubuntu 18.04 to 2.1.29

2019-05-23 Thread Fabian A. Santiago
On 5/23/19 1:29 PM, Fabian A. Santiago wrote: > On 5/23/19 12:11 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> On 5/23/19 8:50 AM, Fabian Aldo Santiago wrote: >>> Ok making progress. Service started now but the www UI reports: >>> >>> Bug in Mailman version 2.1.29 >>> >>> >>> >>> We're sorry, we hit a bug! >>> >>> Ple

Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading mm 2.1.26 on Ubuntu 18.04 to 2.1.29

2019-05-23 Thread Fabian A. Santiago
On 5/23/19 12:11 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 5/23/19 8:50 AM, Fabian Aldo Santiago wrote: >> Ok making progress. Service started now but the www UI reports: >> >> Bug in Mailman version 2.1.29 >> >> >> >> We're sorry, we hit a bug! >> >> Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Pr

Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading mm 2.1.26 on Ubuntu 18.04 to 2.1.29

2019-05-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/23/19 8:50 AM, Fabian Aldo Santiago wrote: > Ok making progress. Service started now but the www UI reports: > > Bug in Mailman version 2.1.29 > > > > We're sorry, we hit a bug! > > Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of > traceback and other system inform

Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading mm 2.1.26 on Ubuntu 18.04 to 2.1.29

2019-05-23 Thread Fabian Aldo Santiago
Ok making progress. Service started now but the www UI reports: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.29 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find thi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading mm 2.1.26 on Ubuntu 18.04 to 2.1.29

2019-05-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/23/19 8:07 AM, Fabian Aldo Santiago wrote: > Service file: > > [Unit] > Description=Mailman Master Queue Runner > After=network.target > > [Service] > Type=forking > PIDFile=/var/run/mailman/mailman.pid You could try PIDFile=/var/lib/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid which is where mailmanc

Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading mm 2.1.26 on Ubuntu 18.04 to 2.1.29

2019-05-23 Thread Fabian Aldo Santiago
Service file: [Unit] Description=Mailman Master Queue Runner After=network.target [Service] Type=forking PIDFile=/var/run/mailman/mailman.pid ExecStart=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start ExecStop=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop ExecReload=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl restart Restart

Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading mm 2.1.26 on Ubuntu 18.04 to 2.1.29

2019-05-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/23/19 7:02 AM, Fabian A. Santiago wrote: > > ok, the issue occurred again with the same error. the complaint is (from > systemctl status ... -l): > > May 23 09:44:40 mail systemd[1]: mailman.service: Can't open PID file > /var/run/mailman/mailman. > > journalctl -xe reports: > > May 23 09:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading mm 2.1.26 on Ubuntu 18.04 to 2.1.29

2019-05-23 Thread Fabian A. Santiago
On 5/23/19 9:04 AM, Fabian A. Santiago wrote: > On 5/22/19 11:42 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> >> Did you look at ? >> >> What was the exact complaint. It's probably easy to fix. > > Thank you Mark for this reference. I did not look at it. I also didn't > record th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading mm 2.1.26 on Ubuntu 18.04 to 2.1.29

2019-05-23 Thread Fabian A. Santiago
also, that wiki page you sent me mention an error with missing dnspython and it states to run this: "sudo apt-get install python-dnspython" but that claims it's already installed, yet the error occurs. what i found you want to install is the package "python-dev". -- Fabian S. OpenPGP: 0xA125

Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading mm 2.1.26 on Ubuntu 18.04 to 2.1.29

2019-05-23 Thread Fabian A. Santiago
On 5/22/19 11:42 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > Did you look at ? > > What was the exact complaint. It's probably easy to fix. Thank you Mark for this reference. I did not look at it. I also didn't record the error. i needed this server / list back up asap so i sna

Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading mm 2.1.26 on Ubuntu 18.04 to 2.1.29

2019-05-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/21/19 5:20 PM, Fabian Aldo Santiago wrote: > Hello all, > > I have my postfix mail server running mm 2.1.26 installed via apt on Ubuntu > 18.04. I wish to upgrade to 2.1.29 but it’s not in the official repos. > > I tried installing from source, after first running mailman-config to gather

Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC message wrapping not working

2019-05-21 Thread Matthew Pounsett
On Tue, 21 May 2019 at 20:21, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 5/21/19 6:41 AM, Matthew Pounsett wrote: > > > > Ah, I see. I think that would be worth calling out in the documentation. > > I think the way it's currently written strongly implies that it will > bring > > all lists up to a minimum behaviour

Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC message wrapping not working

2019-05-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/21/19 6:41 AM, Matthew Pounsett wrote: > > Ah, I see. I think that would be worth calling out in the documentation. > I think the way it's currently written strongly implies that it will bring > all lists up to a minimum behaviour. I have updated that text. It now says: > # Default action

Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC message wrapping not working

2019-05-21 Thread Matthew Pounsett
On Mon, 20 May 2019 at 11:35, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 5/19/19 1:13 PM, Matthew Pounsett wrote: > > I've got a mailman 2.1.26 install I've taken over. I've attempted to > turn > > on DMARC message wrapping by setting DEFAULT_DMARC_MODERATION_ACTION in > my > > mm_cfg.py file, but it doesn't seem

Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC message wrapping not working

2019-05-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/19/19 1:13 PM, Matthew Pounsett wrote: > I've got a mailman 2.1.26 install I've taken over. I've attempted to turn > on DMARC message wrapping by setting DEFAULT_DMARC_MODERATION_ACTION in my > mm_cfg.py file, but it doesn't seem to have had the desired effect. I'm > still seeing messages fr

Re: [Mailman-Users] Soft deactivation of Digest mode

2019-05-18 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/17/19 5:07 AM, Per Starbäck wrote: > (I'm using Mailman 2.1.29.) > > I would like to eventually remove Digest mode from a couple of lists, > but I don't want to interfere with users who currently use it. > > Can I remove the choice for new members, but still keep the digests > working? I gue

Re: [Mailman-Users] Training Mailman to find email address from NDR

2019-05-15 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users writes: > RFC 3464 has been out for 17 years. I think it's past time that we > stop coddling people that can't conform to it. It's not a matter of coddling nonconformers. The only thing we are likely to be able to do about them is "Sleeping Giants" them on hostm

Re: [Mailman-Users] Training Mailman to find email address from NDR

2019-05-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/15/19 10:06 AM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: > On 5/15/19 10:55 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> The message body is that of a MIME multipart message, but the main >> content type is text/plain instead of >> >> multipart/mixed; boundary="66728b7fa14ce3ed" > > RFC 3464 wants a Content-Typ

Re: [Mailman-Users] Training Mailman to find email address from NDR

2019-05-15 Thread Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
On 5/15/19 10:55 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: This message is a disaster. Is this an actual bounce as received? It almost looks like an RFC 3464 compliant DSN except see comment below. ~chuckle~ Agreed. The message body is that of a MIME multipart message, but the main content type is text/plain i

Re: [Mailman-Users] Training Mailman to find email address from NDR

2019-05-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/15/19 6:45 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > > Here is the bounce message, I know I can enable VERP and this problem should > go away, but I wanted to see if I could get this working without VERP as we > have a large mail traffic on the list. This message is a disaster. Is this an actual bounce

Re: [Mailman-Users] Training Mailman to find email address from NDR

2019-05-15 Thread Andrew Hodgson
Grant Taylor wrote: >On 5/15/19 7:45 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: >> Here is the bounce message, I know I can enable VERP and this problem >> should go away, but I wanted to see if I could get this working without >> VERP as we have a large mail traffic on the list. >Did you redact anything signifi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Training Mailman to find email address from NDR

2019-05-15 Thread Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
On 5/15/19 7:45 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: Hi, Hi, Here is the bounce message, I know I can enable VERP and this problem should go away, but I wanted to see if I could get this working without VERP as we have a large mail traffic on the list. Did you redact anything significant from the bo

Re: [Mailman-Users] utf-8 error with all lists

2019-05-13 Thread Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users
On 5/13/19 10:19 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 5/13/19 7:46 AM, Jason Morrill wrote: >> >> It appears that lowercase does return an apparent properly lowercased string >> of letters. So, I'm uncertain why the hand-edited code would function >> differently. > > > This is what we were unable to so

Re: [Mailman-Users] utf-8 error with all lists

2019-05-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/13/19 7:46 AM, Jason Morrill wrote: > > Now that I have my Python-fu working I'm retesting Mark's suggestion: > > webserv:~# python > Python 2.7.13 (default, Sep 26 2018, 18:42:22) > [GCC 6.3.0 20170516] on linux2 > Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.

Re: [Mailman-Users] unshunt does nothing

2019-05-13 Thread Jason Morrill
.net] Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2019 1:45 PM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] unshunt does nothing On 5/10/19 12:46 PM, Jason Morrill wrote: > I have messages accumulating in the qfiles/shunt folder. > > Running unshunt does nothing. Literally. > > No error message,

Re: [Mailman-Users] utf-8 error with all lists

2019-05-13 Thread Jason Morrill
of letters. So, I'm uncertain why the hand-edited code would function differently. Thanks, Jason Morrill IT Director Child and Family Agency 860-443-2896 x1422 http://www.childandfamilyagency.org/ ____________ From: Jason Morrill Sent: Monday, Ma

Re: [Mailman-Users] script alias

2019-05-12 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/12/19 4:05 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 5/12/19 9:16 AM, Web Analysts via Mailman-Users wrote: >> Okay. That worked. Now I have upgraded Mailman from an early 2x to 2.1.29. >> the script alias is not working consistently now across all lists. Some web >> page admin links are broken requiring me

Re: [Mailman-Users] script alias

2019-05-12 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/12/19 9:16 AM, Web Analysts via Mailman-Users wrote: > Okay. That worked. Now I have upgraded Mailman from an early 2x to 2.1.29. > the script alias is not working consistently now across all lists. Some web > page admin links are broken requiring me to manually insert the /cgi-bin/ > into the

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman start error

2019-05-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/11/19 7:43 AM, Web Analysts via Mailman-Users wrote: > I'm now getting an error when I start Mailman: > > root@primeo:~# /etc/init.d/mailman start > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 106, in > from Mailman import mm_cfg > File "/usr/l

Re: [Mailman-Users] utf-8 error with all lists

2019-05-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/10/19 12:37 PM, Jason Morrill wrote: > Since the beginning of May I've had a problem with all messages going through > Mailman. They are being delivered to the lists properly but copies are > staying in qfiles/shunt > > The errors appearing in the Mailman error.1 log file indicate > " > May

Re: [Mailman-Users] unshunt does nothing

2019-05-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/10/19 12:46 PM, Jason Morrill wrote: > I have messages accumulating in the qfiles/shunt folder. > > Running unshunt does nothing. Literally. > > No error message, no progress message. The only change I see is the timestamp > on the shunted messages is updated to when I ran the unshunt comma

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why are mails not being sent to all users (mails seem to disappear)?

2019-05-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/9/19 2:06 PM, Till Dörges wrote: > > I will try with VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL set to 1, to see whether all messages > are > accounted for then. > > IIRC, setting VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 1 effectively means to ignore > SMTP_MAX_RCPTS > and only submit 1 mail at a time to the MTA. That's co

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why are mails not being sent to all users (mails seem to disappear)?

2019-05-09 Thread Till Dörges
Hi Mark, thanks for your quick answer! Am 09.05.19 um 14:31 schrieb Mark Sapiro: > I assume there's nothing in /var/lib/mailman/logs/smtp-failure since if > there were, these would also be recorded as bounces. /var/lib/mailman/logs/smtp-failure does not have any entries related to the issue.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why are mails not being sent to all users (mails seem to disappear)?

2019-05-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/9/19 3:49 AM, Till Dörges wrote: > > /var/lib/mailman/logs/smtp gives me a log entry with the original messages > and claims > to have sent it to 416 recips (which is correct). I assume there's nothing in /var/lib/mailman/logs/smtp-failure since if there were, these would also be recorded

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive updater

2019-05-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/7/19 9:50 AM, q...@xs4all.nl wrote: > Hi, > > I have moved my email list to a new server. > All is working well, email are send out. > BUT I do have a problem with the archiver. > The *.mbox archive is updated after a emails has been send. What's in /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/* ?

Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto-discard emails

2019-05-01 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 08:41:59PM -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: [...] > I think you have to use > > whitelist_from mailman-bounces@mydomain Thanks, that seems to do the trick. Even though it is called "whitelist" it doesn't actually whitelist the emails, they're still scanned by spam assassin, bu

Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto-discard emails

2019-04-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/30/19 7:55 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask my second question, if > not apologies in advance. > > I run an announcement-only mailing list which has become the target of a > lot of spam, so I've set unsubscribed emails to be immediately > discarde

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bulk subscription with specific password

2019-04-29 Thread Drew Tenenholz
. thinking out loud We usually send an email to mailman (which includes the pre-defined password) for each subscription and use the 'confirm' option in mailman so the user gets a confirming email and I know their password. But, would it work to reset the list to 'approve', send the emai

Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues

2019-04-28 Thread Mark J Bradakis via Mailman-Users
On 4/27/19 10:56 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 4/27/19 5:25 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Mailman-Users wrote: And if you post one of those tracebacks here, we'd be happy to help No need to, the fix was easy.  I had changed some permissions and ownership of the mailman cgi files while trying to figure

Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues

2019-04-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/27/19 5:25 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Mailman-Users wrote: > Progress!  Well, I guess, at least a differnet error.  Changed some > Apache configs regarding cgi and now when I go to > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo > > I get > > >    Bug in Mailman version 2.1.29 ... > So hopefully t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues

2019-04-27 Thread Mark J Bradakis via Mailman-Users
Progress!  Well, I guess, at least a differnet error.  Changed some Apache configs regarding cgi and now when I go to http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo I get Bug in Mailman version 2.1.29 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Pri

Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues

2019-04-24 Thread Yasuhito FUTATSUKI
Hi, On 4/25/19 4:55 AM, Mark J Bradakis via Mailman-Users wrote: So digging through the logs I found this: [authz_core:error] [pid 31549:tid 139863772874496] [client 50.198.190.18:46884] AH01630: client denied by server configuration: So I added an AuthType None to the httpd.conf file.  Now I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues

2019-04-24 Thread Mark J Bradakis via Mailman-Users
On 4/24/19 4:27 PM, Robert Heller wrote: Yes, selinux. [root@autox teamnet]# getenforce Disabled Selinux should not be a factor here. mjb. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/m

Re: [Mailman-Users] archtoc and archtocnombox

2019-04-24 Thread Mark Dale
> On 4/24/19 3:15 PM, Mark Dale wrote: >> Small archives seem to use "archtoc.html" which has the link to download >> the full raw archive (mbox). >> >> Larger lists appear to use "archtocnombox.html" which is minus the link. >> >> Is there a threshold (filesize) somewhere that determines which

Re: [Mailman-Users] archtoc and archtocnombox

2019-04-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/24/19 3:15 PM, Mark Dale wrote: > Hi All, > > Small archives seem to use "archtoc.html" which has the link to download > the full raw archive (mbox). > > Larger lists appear to use "archtocnombox.html" which is minus the link. > > Is there a threshold (filesize) somewhere that determines wh

Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues

2019-04-24 Thread Robert Heller
At Wed, 24 Apr 2019 14:54:47 -0700 Mark Sapiro wrote: > > On 4/24/19 2:10 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Mailman-Users wrote: > > On 4/24/19 3:01 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> > >> I'm still interested in 'ls -l' > > > > [root@autox cgi-bin]# ls -l > > total 352 > > -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 A

Re: [Mailman-Users] authorizing posts to a moderated list

2019-04-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/24/19 2:22 PM, Bernie Cosell wrote: > I've discovered that putting someone in the "approved to post" in the > list config doesn't override the fact that the email is still MOD in the > members > list prevents them from posting. What do you mean by "approved to post"? Are you talking about Pr

Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues

2019-04-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/24/19 2:10 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Mailman-Users wrote: > On 4/24/19 3:01 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> I'm still interested in 'ls -l' > > [root@autox cgi-bin]# ls -l > total 352 > -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 admin > -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 admind

Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues

2019-04-24 Thread Mark J Bradakis via Mailman-Users
On 4/24/19 3:01 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: I'm still interested in 'ls -l' [root@autox cgi-bin]# ls -l total 352 -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 admin -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 admindb -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 confirm -rwxr-sr-x. 1 ma

Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues

2019-04-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/24/19 1:53 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Mailman-Users wrote: > > [root@autox cgi-bin]# ls -Z . > system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 admin system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 options > system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 admindb system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 > private > system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 confirm sy

Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues

2019-04-24 Thread Mark J Bradakis via Mailman-Users
[root@autox cgi-bin]# ls -Z . system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 admin system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 options system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 admindb system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 private system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 confirm system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 rmlist system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 cre

Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues

2019-04-24 Thread Robert Heller
At Wed, 24 Apr 2019 13:18:25 -0700 Mark Sapiro wrote: > > On 4/24/19 11:10 AM, Mark J Bradakis via Mailman-Users wrote: > > > > Yes, I have run check_perms, no problems there.  All the other web pages > > at autox.team.net seem to work just fine, it is only the mailman pages > > that give the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues

2019-04-24 Thread Robert Heller
At Wed, 24 Apr 2019 13:55:31 -0600 Mark J Bradakis wrote: > > So digging through the logs I found this: > > [authz_core:error] [pid 31549:tid 139863772874496] [client > 50.198.190.18:46884] AH01630: client denied by server configuration: > > So I added an AuthType None to the httpd.conf file.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues

2019-04-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/24/19 12:55 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Mailman-Users wrote: > > [Wed Apr 24 13:52:47.955661 2019] [cgid:error] [pid 16974:tid > 140524686079744] (13)Permission denied: [client 50.198.190.18:45928] > AH01257: unable to connect to cgi daemon after multiple tries: > /local/mailman/teamnet/cgi-bin/

Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues

2019-04-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/24/19 11:10 AM, Mark J Bradakis via Mailman-Users wrote: > > Yes, I have run check_perms, no problems there.  All the other web pages > at autox.team.net seem to work just fine, it is only the mailman pages > that give the 503 unavailable error.  Frustrating because some pages > work, some do

Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues

2019-04-24 Thread Mark J Bradakis via Mailman-Users
So digging through the logs I found this: [authz_core:error] [pid 31549:tid 139863772874496] [client 50.198.190.18:46884] AH01630: client denied by server configuration: So I added an AuthType None to the httpd.conf file.  Now I still get the Server unavailable page, but a different err: [W

Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues

2019-04-24 Thread Mark J Bradakis via Mailman-Users
On 4/23/19 1:07 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: The above URL returns: Service Unavailable The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later. Have you run Mailman's bin/check_perms? I suspect some kind of permissions erro

Re: [Mailman-Users] REST API get template contents

2019-04-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/24/19 3:23 AM, Kiffin Gish wrote: > Is it possible to use the Mailman REST API to query the contents of a given > template? > For example: GET > /api/domains/example.org/templates/lang/list:user:action:subscribe > I would like to do this to allow the administrator to edit existing as a > re

Re: [Mailman-Users] Prevent users from changing email address

2019-04-24 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users writes: > On 4/23/19 5:02 AM, Kiffin Gish wrote: > > Is it possible to configure mailman so that it is not possible for users > > to change their email address, e.g. disabling the option and including > > the service desk contact information instead? I'll have

Re: [Mailman-Users] Prevent users from changing email address

2019-04-23 Thread Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
On 4/23/19 5:02 AM, Kiffin Gish wrote: Is it possible to configure mailman so that it is not possible for users to change their email address, e.g. disabling the option and including the service desk contact information instead? What will prevent users from unsubscribing with the old address a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Prevent users from changing email address

2019-04-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/23/19 4:02 AM, Kiffin Gish wrote: > Is it possible to configure mailman so that it is not possible for users to > change their email address, e.g. disabling the option and including the > service desk contact information instead? Had you not just recently posted to this list with a Mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues

2019-04-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/23/19 8:53 AM, Robert Heller wrote: > At Tue, 23 Apr 2019 09:13:15 -0600 Mark J Bradakis wrote: > >> >> Got the new server on line, up and running, the email lists are doing >> just fine.  But for some reason there are problems with the web pages, >> like http://autox.team.net/mailman/list

Re: [Mailman-Users] REST API user_id and mailman_id are big integers

2019-04-23 Thread Kiffin Gish
Thanks, using v3.1 instead of v3.0 solved my problems! You might want to check the docs where 3.0 is still being used. -- Kiffin Gish Gouda, The Netherlands On 4/23/19 6:35 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 4/22/19 1:18 AM, Kiffin Gish wrote: I'm implementing a frontend for accessing the mailman-core

Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues

2019-04-23 Thread Robert Heller
At Tue, 23 Apr 2019 09:13:15 -0600 Mark J Bradakis wrote: > > So a couple of days ago I had a server just up and die.  It was put in > place about 12 years ago, if not more.  Luckily I was working on > replacing it, so I had  a new box under construction almost ready to > take its place. 

Re: [Mailman-Users] REST API user_id and mailman_id are big integers

2019-04-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/22/19 1:18 AM, Kiffin Gish wrote: > I'm implementing a frontend for accessing the mailman-core via the REST > interface. This list is primarily for support of Mailman 2.1. While some of us who read this list are also involved with Mailman 3, some Mailman 3 developers do not read this list.

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