spam within them will
result in almost universal filtering once anti-spam vendors get savvy to
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On 5/18/16 2:49 PM, Rodgers, Anthony (DTMB) wrote:
Didn’t we do this about 4 months back?
Yes we did, but this is the new and improved FUSSP v2.0
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ce. I've resisted the temptation to
complete them all with "abuse@". So far, I'm using
"nob...@example.com".
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azine subscriptions, but that was usually aimed at a specific
individual and watching the fallout was the fun part.
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fraudulent confirmation messages themselves, and
might act as a mild deterrent if the bad guys know you're doing it.
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On 5/25/16 7:45 AM, Matthew Black wrote:
Are your customers using confirmed opt-in mailing lists? If not, they
should not be running mailing lists.
The monetary compensation of ESPs is directly proportional to the volume
of promotional messages that they send. Let that sink in.
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n when the confirmations were sent and when
they were "clicked"?
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"Click here if you're a robot"
white-on-white tiny font. Only count if 1 > 2.
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Your local telephone and interne
me MUAs. It also allows a simple "Click here" button for
those more familiar with web-based applications.
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account to another as
the reply will come from a different address than the subscription.
CAPTCHA could potentially fix it, but that is sure to raise objections
as being too inconvenient for list operators playing the numbers game.
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On 5/29/16 11:29 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 11:07:44AM -0700, Jay Hennigan wrote:
CAPTCHA could potentially fix it, but that is sure to raise
objections as being too inconvenient for list operators playing the
numbers game.
Captchas are also not a valid anti-abuse
Anyone from Mailchimp on-list? support@mailchimp now auto-returns an
ignore-bot with a link that points to a webpage with no useful options.
Why are people in the email business so difficult to reach by email?
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get Symantec to fix it were futile.
Needed Mailchimp's outbound CIDRs to modify whitelist for IPs rather
than domain so wrote to ask them.
Was quite taken aback by the extreme reluctance to respond to email by a
company in the email business. All done.
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en to preventing pests from infestation vs.
exterminating them once they've established a presence.
With regard to Mailchimp, as a non-customer observer it seems to me that
pre-Mandrill was excellent, post-Mandrill not as much.
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y? What legitimate company sends bulk
permission-based mail anonymously?
IMNSHO, if you send bulk promotional mail, and it generates complaints,
and you shield the identity of the sender from the recipient, you aren't
an ESP. You're a spammer-for-hire.
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-based mail anonymously?
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udFlare?
I wouldn't think so. They're advertising the content to the Internet via
an A or record in DNS. Not the same thing as a transit provider by
any means.
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Y
on sending email for the
foreseeable future. Vet your future customers more carefully. Have terms
of service that prevent this type of thing. Enforce them. Have an abuse
address that is read promptly by a human with the authority to take
action. Respond to abuse complaints by promptly taking
ntina for years with essentially none of it
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exists between this Hotmail account and your personal information.
On the other hand, if the phone number associated with it is indeed
yours and it's an SMS-capable mobile, perhaps the password-recovery
mechanism
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you
as a customer in this case, hence no service. Get a recipient who is a
Yahoo customer to complain to them about not getting your wanted mail.
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Your local telephone an
Devlin Null is in charge of the
abuse desks of many large providers.
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that send a lot of mail with that word
in the body of the message. This thread has it in both the body and the
subject, for example.
It's almost certainly the sending domain. "vendor-survey.com" or
"payment-survey.com" or their own domain might be a better choice.
e of those addresses was a spamtrap? Where did the
small group of addresses come from? How small of a group?
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On 1/8/17 4:04 PM, Large Hadron Collider wrote:
obviously. They have the right to refuse mail, but in the case of SORBS'
overblocking, they probably don't intend to.
SORBS blocks nothing and refuses no mail. Receiving ISPs do those things.
If the ISP chooses to use SORBS as a filter, then by d
On 1/8/17 5:11 PM, David Sgro, Dataspindle wrote:
I have always hated the argument that "RBL's don’t block email".
Haters gotta hate. :-) Happens to be true, though.
While technically its true, you being listed in the RBL is 100% the cause of
your problem and it is not the ISP/receiving serv
On 1/15/17 6:14 AM, Dave Lugo wrote:
I've tried the former several times. The spam still flows. I'd like to
get to a human part of the process this time around.
Have you ever seen anything from mailgun that *wasn't* spam?
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:
http://eviltracker.espdomain.foo/trackingbugcodedlink";>
http://www.customerdomain.bar/ in the body of your email?
This throws "Likely a scam" (and indeed it often is) flags in a lot of
places.
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They've been very light grey hat for a very long time.
Friday they spammed an address that couldn't possibly have signed up for
anything. Spam was an advertisement for Hulu.
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target either doesn't care or doesn't properly vet their
customers.
The other thing, hit send before complete, is that mail to
ab...@exacttraget.com got a "delayed" message after several hours. Still
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after N bounces, why is
that different with bulk-mailers?
For the same reason that spa^H^H^Hcommercial bulk mailers extremely
rarely if ever confirm subscriptions.
Commercial bulk mailers bill their customers based on the number of
addresses in their lists.
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izarre spam pattern being directed to
abuse@[domain] to many domains we host. This has been going on for
several days. Payload concerns bitcoin. It certainly seems to be a
joe-job but it would be interesting to see if it's just me or if anyone
has an idea of the rationale is behind it.
e adding them? If not, why not?
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r egregious spammers, by definition they are spamming knowingly
and deliberately.
This is true regardless of whether said outfit also is in the business
of sending mail on behalf of reputable senders or whether the same IP
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, you have
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On 6/22/17 3:32 AM, Stefano Bagnara wrote:
Maybe I'm a victim of a very broad block targeted to my provider
(OVH),
This. I see lots of spam from OVH and in my opinion they don't seem to
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cancer treatment options are sent
regularly to oncologists.
Has each of the health care practitioners to whom you are mailing
requested this content, or did the pharma companies on whose behalf you
are mailing compile a list of the practitioners' addresses from an
outside source?
-
On 6/24/17 6:44 AM, D'Arcy Cain wrote:
On 06/24/17 03:30, Jay Hennigan wrote:
Has each of the health care practitioners to whom you are mailing
requested this content, or did the pharma companies on whose behalf
you are mailing compile a list of the practitioners' addresses from a
On 7/11/17 11:43 AM, Michael Wise via mailop wrote:
Let's not forget S.1618
And, "We're not the sender, our spammy customer is the sender."
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Your
circumstance-specific (in both cases).
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, you
learn not to leave valuable outgoing packages in your curbside mailbox
for the postman to pick up. You take them to a secure facility operated
by someone you trust. Same principle applies digitally.
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n of
that list are prolific abusers indeed, and should be dealt with accordingly.
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corporate email address
according to protocol
;-)
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ion is worth us investigating.
And when you're finished with the high volume, close the connection. If
you have more volume later, re-open it.
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Your local telephone
y ESPs for senders with holiday offers and the
like. Those customers are complaining. TWC is acting on those complaints.
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hanks, bye" and then they do so?
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On 5/3/18 2:58 PM, Michael Peddemors wrote:
For the record, and to close this loop (re evidence)
[snip]
# 151.106.48.87 13 valley.mkto-sj070017.com
This one looks suspiciously like it's designed to impersonate a
different well-known spammer-for-hire.
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On 9/7/18 12:32 PM, Michael Peddemors wrote:
* Do you enforce 'tough' passwords?
Most formula-based "tough" passwords are only "tough" for the legitimate
user, not an attacker.
Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/936/
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list hygiene practices started to
trigger IP blocks.
That's a feature, not a bug.
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n, or the next one, or the next one ...
There are also many of us who open and read email but deliberately avoid
opening embedded images.
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3. I may take the contents as representing the views of your company.
4. This overrides any disclaimer or statement of confidentiality
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d this
email unsolicited, please reply with "REMOVE"" No kidding. First an
admission that it's 100 percent unsolicited followed by noting that some
people may find it so.
Is this now compliant with Constant Contact's current policy?
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On 12/6/18 12:47 PM, Al Iverson wrote:
On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 3:34 PM Jay Hennigan wrote:
Is this now compliant with Constant Contact's current policy?
My experience is that if you report a bad guy to them, they will nuke.
When you contacted Constant Contact about, what did they say
't be rejected on sight?
They've been spamming on behalf of their customers for some time now.
Already being rejected here as we catch them. Anyone have a complete
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checked against
spamtraps.
> Services such as spamcop will not provide data to us, for the concern
> that we may listwash since we are not netblock owners. but again this
> will only give partial coverage.
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y the recipient flagging that particular message as spam.
I would suspect that these reports are also likely tied to an internal
AOL algorithm that will filter or reject email should some threshold be
exceeded likely based on source IP, content, etc. So far to the best of
my knowledge we haven&#x
On 2/24/15 12:27, Eduardo Silvestre wrote:
> Hello John,
>
> thanks for your feedback. In fact i'm just trying to know why they
> stopping answer to a partner of ours about a blocking issue.
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On 3/16/15 6:38 PM, Steve Holdoway wrote:
On Tue, 2015-03-17 at 01:27 +, Franck Martin wrote:
Are you saying your hosting provider gave your a /128 instead of a /64 ?
Yes
What? Do they think they're going to run out? If you have a subnet, you
should have a /64. Sounds like you need t
On 9/24/15 8:04 AM, Gil Bahat wrote:
Hi,
Carefully observing our FBL complaints one by one, I see a disturbing
phenomena: users marking swaths of email, sometimes received over a
month ago as spam, accounting for a significant volume of complaints.
I see a lot of this with AOL's FBL, very litt
;Not junk"
button and hopefully learn not to mark transactional mail as spam in the
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reasonably implied.
It's section (ii) that concerns me. Scraping addresses from Usenet,
blogs, comments, or subscribed discussion lists could easily fall under
"Publishing", could it not?
What is the opinion of this group, is this policy that of a legitima
d for, nor anything from anyone
with whom I've done business. The amount of spam is on the rise on
behalf of numerous outfits loosely connected with some things that would
imply "targeting".
And, I've never seen language like "publishing implies consent" in the
where people voluntarily sign up to receive commercial
email solicitations? If there isn't any authoritative publication, then
scraping websites seems to be the logical conclusion at least to me of
what this company considers to be publishing. Can you suggest any
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(451 4.1.8 Client IP address 96.31.0.20 does not resolve.flph400.Fix reverse
DNS.For more information email postmas...@prodigy.net)
And yes, 96.31.0.20 does have a PTR. =)
Could be related to AT&T outage.
https://downdetector.com/status/att/map
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It could be a spacer or comment in a Cisco config, those are fairly
common on technical lists.
As for me, I'm making popcorn while eagerly awaiting the latest,
greatest patent-pending, FUSSP.
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t putting it on mail copied to news
agencies as if a press release? Really?
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ers
like Microsoft and Exchange Online.
As long as the small businesses don't send such volumes of abuse as to
get blocked, this isn't a problem.
Am I just grumpy this week?
Kinda.
Is e-mail no longer a cooperative system?
It is. Please be at least as aggressive with stopping
no different from a spammer
generating throwaway accounts from which to spew.
The end result will be that the freemail account user will get locked
out or the account will be shut down. User will then blame the ESP for
disrupting his "business" email address.
Does the local brownie tr
C issues). This is a potential malware vector.
It might be useful for certain specialized applications but it doesn't
look particularly scalable for general use.
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Your
.in-addr.arpa.IN PTR
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
234.55.65.in-addr.arpa. 2456 IN SOA ns1.msft.net. msnhst.microsoft.com.
2016040802 7200 900 2419200 3600
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Your local teleph
xtremely good script) thanking me and stating that
they had addressed the issue.
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On 4/24/16 10:06 AM, Bill Cole wrote:
On 24 Apr 2016, at 0:29, Jay Hennigan wrote:
Nobody's perfect. Mailchimp is one of the best, but today I got a
Paypal phish from one of their IPs via an outfit called mandrill.com.
Mandrill.com is MailChimp's low-cost brand, not a distin
On 4/10/19 5:12 PM, Grant Taylor via mailop wrote:
I overheard a question and ensuing conversation today that I didn't know
the answer to.
Are there any standards around no-reply type addresses? They are
typically used from some sort of CMS (et al.) that sends an email but
does not want a re
behalf of spammers.
That's one of the risks you take when you use a marketing-oriented
third-party to send transactional email.
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ox" for a couple of weeks.
That sounds like a feature, not a bug. As I recall, there's a well-known
term in the industry for "Sending out too many 'cold' emails to new
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ecision can be made to hard reject similar mail in the future either
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uot; would be IMHO a much better label than "Junk", and an "Are you
sure" dialog box confirmation for "Report as spam" would also help.
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ctive accounts and letting the mail
accumulate for years, freemail providers can report to advertisers that
their message was appended to thousands of messages that will never be
read and charge accordingly.
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, but true.
Makes sense. Once you find something bad, you stop processing.
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f DoorDash and Delta capture transactional email addresses and use
them to spam you back to the stone age (otherwise known as, "Present you
with offers of other products and services that may be of interest to
you"), then that's a different story.
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ugins, or if you know they're going to use it to spam
you, abuse@ their domain. nob...@example.com works as well, and
1-900-976-1212 for a "required" phone number.
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On 11/16/23 02:54, Laura Atkins via mailop wrote:
The New York Times
Laura
Can you be more specific? Link to an article?
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back that involved some
sort of haiku in the header?
IMNSHO, expecting spammers to abide by legal prohibitions and
intellectual property laws is a non-starter. Attempting to legally
prevent MUA developers from displaying logos competing with BIMI's
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big email providers.
Airline and hotel IPs probably should be characterized similarly to
dynamic or residential IPs. It's unlikely that legitimate mail will
originate there as SMTP. Users of these facilities typically use port
587 to relay mail through an authenticated smarthost.
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without opening it, this gives feedback that the decision to route it to
spam was correct.
None of this feedback gets back to the spammer-sender.
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d opt-in or otherwise verify the email
addresses of its patrons? Maybe the patrons are putting in bogus
addresses. When asked for an email address by someone that I never want
to hear from, I've been known to enter "nob...@example.com". This
shouldn't wind up as a spamtrap, howe
[Yes] [No]
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On 2/23/24 15:12, Mark Fletcher wrote:
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 3:09 PM Jay Hennigan via mailop
mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote:
There are many systems that scan links in email and falsely
unsubscribe.
I'd make it two-click. When clicked, have it go to a page that say
did so in
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mails should authenticate correctly. IP range is 78.143.254.0/24.
Seen the same thing from a low-volume Mailman discussion list. Cox.com
addresses all bounced with that code.
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ing a /64 among multiple customers or OP has another machine that
is spamming from within the same subnet.
Sharing a /64 among multiple customers doesn't make sense. It's not like
OVH is in danger of running out of IPv6 space any time soon.
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/64 per customer subnet.
See here:
https://www.spamhaus.org/faqs/exploits-blocklist-xbl/#how-does-xbl-handle-ipv6-addresses
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On 3/14/24 13:21, Slavko via mailop wrote:
As the /64 is twice of whole IPv4 mask, plenty "spammers" with
minimal effort, just two/three kernel setting values...
A /64 is actually 4,294,967,296 times the whole IPv4 space, but who's
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ferentiate from their generic naming conventions will help you.
Or avoid Sendgrid entirely.
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arding proper mailing practice
despite the convincing evidence above that the bulk team is completely
clueless?
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e overlays and given
up because of the high percentage of bogus addresses.
Of course, a lot of these sites don't bother to COI such submissions,
preferring quantity over quality.
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t to receive email of the type transmitted may be reasonably implied."
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On 5/28/19 12:37 PM, Steve Atkins via mailop wrote:
On May 28, 2019, at 7:47 PM, Jay Hennigan via mailop wrote:
Note that their stated policy is that it's OK to spam anyone whose email address has been
"published".
That is not what it says.
Technically correct, but the only
p, or an individual permission to
market to him or her, that permission is provided exclusively to the
party in question."
"providing their email address directly to Adobe's customer in a manner
that shows unambiguous, revocable consent to receive email of the
character of thos
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