On 04/10/2019 12:34, Sebastian Kluth wrote:
Hi Neil, hi all,
„Eventually I was asked for permission to pass the email to the ESP as part of
the investigation. Although I wasn't confident that any positive action would
be taken, I expected that the emails would finally stop and that I would ge
y via
mailop
Gesendet: Freitag, 4. Oktober 2019 11:20
An: Neil Youngman
Cc: mailop@mailop.org
Betreff: Re: [mailop] Certified Senders Alliance
On Thu 03/Oct/2019 12:31:43 +0200 Neil Youngman via mailop wrote:
> On 03/10/2019 10:07, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
>> On Thu 03/Oct/2019 09:46
> I browsed their site and found the price list[*] sooner than the FAQs[†].
> The very last section is For Mailbox Providers and Spam Filter Providers, but
> doesn't actually tell how to verify if a sender is whitelisted. I wrote them
> asking for more info.
Interesting.
The "Participants"
On Thu 03/Oct/2019 12:31:43 +0200 Neil Youngman via mailop wrote:
> On 03/10/2019 10:07, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
>> On Thu 03/Oct/2019 09:46:35 +0200 Neil Youngman via mailop wrote:
>>>
>>> On 23rd March, I looked into their data protection details. The
>>> contact was the same customer care emai
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Benjamin
-Original Message-
From: mailop On Behalf Of Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.
via mailop
Sent: jeudi 3 octobre 2019 17:22
To: Mail Op
Subject: Re: [mailop] Certified Senders Alliance
The CSA has, to the best of my knowledge, never been about best practices, let
alone about enforcing th
> In article <3827efcb-337f-4456-9fb8-6eff4a5d9...@isipp.com> you write:
>> The CSA has, to the best of my knowledge, never been about best practices
>
> You're mistaken. Their criteria are here:
>
> https://certified-senders.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/CSA_Admission_Criteria.pdf
>
> I've
In article <3827efcb-337f-4456-9fb8-6eff4a5d9...@isipp.com> you write:
>The CSA has, to the best of my knowledge, never been about best practices
You're mistaken. Their criteria are here:
https://certified-senders.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/CSA_Admission_Criteria.pdf
I've sent complaints wh
> We were certified by ISIPP (as an ESP) many years ago, and I don't remember
> going through an extensive check process for that.
You did. :-) However it was all in the background, based on your responses to
your application.
> As we didn't see any improvement in the deliverability, we sto
t least from my Europe-based experience.
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Benjamin
-Original Message-
From: mailop On Behalf Of Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.
via mailop
Sent: jeudi 3 octobre 2019 17:22
To: Mail Op
Subject: Re: [mailop] Certified Senders Alliance
The CSA has, to the best of my knowledge, never been about best pra
The CSA has, to the best of my knowledge, never been about best practices, let
alone about enforcing them. The only two organizations anywhere that are truly
about certifying email senders because they are following best practices are
(again, to the best of my knowledge), Return Path and us.
A
On 03/10/2019 08:46, Neil Youngman via mailop wrote:
It is now October. The emails are still coming and there has been no
further communication from CSA.
I'd be tempted to complain to the information commissioner. You are
lucky because you actually know who is sending the stuff, and they ar
On 03/10/2019 10:07, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
On Thu 03/Oct/2019 09:46:35 +0200 Neil Youngman via mailop wrote:
On 23rd March, I looked into their data protection details. The
contact was the same customer care email that was failing to resolve
the issue.
Looking at the email headers, I saw
On Thu 03/Oct/2019 09:46:35 +0200 Neil Youngman via mailop wrote:
>
> By the 16th of February it was clear that the unsubscribe was not
> working, so I emailed their customer service team. They responded on
> the 17th telling me that they would look int the problem and they had
> removed me from
In January I decided to unsubscribe from the Thompson and Morgan
mailing lists. Thompson and Morgan are a well known supplier of seeds
and plants in the UK. I have bought from them twice in the last 2 or 3
years, but I felt that getting at least one email a day, sometimes
more from a company I only
On 2017-11-01 08:28:39 (-0500), Alexander Burch wrote:
What is the general opinion of the Certified Senders Alliance?
I receive quite a lot of spam with an `X-CSA-Complaints` header pointing
at ...
Does anyone find it impactful for delivery? They offered to let us join
without any vetting, ju
Hi!
> What is the general opinion of the Certified Senders Alliance?
I had one case with them in 2009, which ended *very* unpleasent.
We had some spam case from one of their members, complaint by phone and
a few minutes later one of our internal addresses got subscribed via
some Tor relay to som
Hi
I made mixed experience with CSA.
Their 'complaints' team does react quickly on complaints and also
document the number of complaints they receive per CSA Member.
But by 'reacting' they just acknowledge the complaints and document the
complaint. Not much more happens to make the problem stop.
The rules they offer are "normal" for an ESP. I have complained personally,
a couple of times (to the address they make you add in the headers). Did
not get any response on that (repeatedly).
Microsoft and Yahoo are partners of the CSA. Terry posted something on
it but I can't remember what they d
> On Nov 1, 2017, at 6:28 AM, Alexander Burch wrote:
>
> What is the general opinion of the Certified Senders Alliance? Does anyone
> find it impactful for delivery? They offered to let us join without any
> vetting, just sent us a bill for $___ without any questions. If there is no
> vetting
They’re useful / important if you’re mailing into certain EU-centric consumer
email providers - .de being the big one. But if your market is primarily US or
webmail providers it’s not a huge priority.
laura
> On Nov 1, 2017, at 6:28 AM, Alexander Burch wrote:
>
> What is the general opinion
On 1 Nov 2017, at 9:28 (-0400), Alexander Burch wrote:
What is the general opinion of the Certified Senders Alliance?
Never heard of them before today... They appear to be mostly oriented to
the German and Deutschophone European markets.
(Note that I've run mail systems for German entities'
What is the general opinion of the Certified Senders Alliance? Does anyone
find it impactful for delivery? They offered to let us join without any
vetting, just sent us a bill for $___ without any questions. If there is no
vetting process I have a hard time seeing how it would validate any sender
a
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