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On 7/17/12 4:16 PM, Eli Stephens wrote:
Louis: "the PSL--unlike the ISO--is actua
en be the new supreme ruler -and the U. S. government then officially
supports that newdictator? > Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:16:00 -0700
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> Subject: Re: [Marxism] North Star shows the way to imperialist intervention
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> Louis: "the PSL-
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Louis: "the PSL--unlike the ISO--is actually pro-Assad"
>From a recent article:
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On 7/17/2012 3:50 PM, Dan R wrote:
Funny how Louis doesn't seem to care for the "
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Funny how Louis doesn't seem to care for the "that was XX years ago"
argument when I
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On 7/17/2012 3:33 PM, Eli Stephens wrote:
Louis, why do you have so little respect
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Louis: "For newcomers to Marxmail,..."
Louis, why do you have so little respect for
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> http://socialistworker.org/2012/07/16/siding-with-the-empire
> Above link to "Soci
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On 7/17/2012 2:36 PM, Eli Stephens wrote:
When justifying imperialist intervention
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From: Tom Quinn
> some huge moral imperative of the kind that existed in World War
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Actually there was also the context of the fall of France and the Nazi
Conquest of W
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Prior to the Japanese attack on US military bases in Hawaii, the majority
of the peo
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Yes and one of them was the worthy David Dellinger who went to prison.
And yes, the
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On 7/11/2012 3:32 PM, Tom Quinn wrote:
Shane is expressing the traditional Trotsk
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Shane is expressing the traditional Trotskyist view of World War 2,
shared only by t
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Jeff Republishes Ken H:
"People in Libya and Syria are autonomous. They don't ha
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right, and who advocated supporting foreign imperialist intervention
there? Not the
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That's fine, but who gives a shit about what Paul's motives are? So
if the liberals
yrian groups that he seeks support for, than Jeff? But I doubt it.
I believe Pham's sources are the same corporate media (CNN, etc.), that were
cheer leaders for the 2003 Iraq Invasion.
> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:13:02 +0200
> From: meis...@xs4all.nl
> Subject: Re: [Marxism] N
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Dresden was a strategic city and accordingly a target of allied
bombing.
The wa
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I don't have time to write much now, nor have I heard any new arguments,
but here's
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Shane Mage wrote:
> I play no numbers game.
Then your use of the term exterminatio
+0200
> From: meis...@xs4all.nl
> Subject: Re: [Marxism] North Star shows the way to imperialist intervention
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So let's stop talking
> about the "imperialist intervention" that hasn't even happened and probably
> won't (at least until Assad is on hi
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On Jul 11, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Angelus Novus wrote:
the extermination bombings of
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Shane Mage wrote:
> the extermination bombings of German cities
from Hamburg to
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At 08:17 11-07-12 -0700, Tom Quinn wrote:
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>Yeah but, should we become cheerleaders
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On Jul 11, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Tom Quinn wrote:
Yeah but, should we become cheerl
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Now wasn't Lou just asking contributors to these discussions to avoid
"one-liners"
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Yeah but, should we become cheerleaders for imperialist intervention
on this basis?
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Sure, if you think the US should be the world's cop. Here's what
Phil Ochs had to
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So you can understand someone being assaulted might call the police, but so
long as
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Tom Quinn writes:
> knew what I was talking about. Reading a bunch of articles an
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It's one thing to say that the oppressed in a country have a right to
ask for help f
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I think Pham Binh's article really hit the nail on the head in relation to
the utter
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Aren't your differences centered on two questions of *observation*,
questions which
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On 7/8/2012 11:00 PM, Manuel Barrera wrote:
The Marxist dialectic doesn't mean the
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On 7/8/2012 10:00 PM, John Obrien wrote:
Assad should give up power and hold real
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" Any such static, one size fits all, generalized position that doesn't take in
t
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On 7/8/2012 8:41 PM, Manuel Barrera wrote:
Favoring imperialist intervention for w
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On 7/8/2012 6:32 PM, Andrew Pollack wrote:
Pham himself calls
anti-intervention a
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> From: mtom...@hotmail.com
> Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2012 22:41:43 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Marxism] North Star shows the way to imperialist intervention
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> Louis: "That's fine. Pham Binh will survive SA's condemnation. Quite frankly,
> I think he would f
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Louis: "That's fine. Pham Binh will survive SA's condemnation. Quite frankly, I
th
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On 7/8/12 10:06 PM, Andrew Pollack wrote:
I think Louis's parallels are useful. I
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I think Louis's parallels are useful. I disagree with the ISOers
characterization of
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On 7/8/12 9:32 PM, Andrew Pollack wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, Louis, but you
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Correct me if I'm wrong, Louis, but you have forwarded a number of Pham's
pieces to
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I don't think these things are presented so much as though they were
seriously raise
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On 7/7/12 5:51 PM, Andrew Pollack wrote:
All proportions guarded, I had one of th
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All proportions guarded, I had one of those
Lenin-reading-Vorwarts-in-August moments
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