[MLL] 4,000 CARNATIONS ON STALIN'S GRAVE

2010-12-22 Thread editor_revdem
Dec 21, 2010 4,000 carnations for Stalin's birthday MOSCOW - RUSSIAN Communists placed four thousand red carnations on Stalin's grave beside Kremlin walls on Tuesday to celebrate what would have been the Soviet dictator's 131st birthday. Communist supporters raised 80,000 rubles (S$3,412) in a

[MLL] Secession: What Was It All About? posted 12-22 Rustbelt radical

2010-12-22 Thread Waistline2
While a small and discredited minority of historians may still question slavery’s central war in the conflagration that was the Civil War, most historians, the vast majority and all of the serious ones, place the institution of slavery as the key reason for the war. Most people have vaguer

Re: [MLL] Secession: What Was It All About? posted 12-22 Rustbelt radical

2010-12-22 Thread Waistline2
Re: [Marxism] Secession: What Was It All About? A good piece, with a couple of caveats The hypocrisy of the slaveocracy over state rights was endemic to the sectional clash. It wasn't Dred Scott, which

[MLL] CPI(ML) leaders attacked

2010-12-22 Thread editor_revdem
- Forwarded Message - From: santosh rana To: alik chakraborty ; amitadyuti ; amitava1968 ; editor_revdem Sent: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 21:17:35 +0530 (IST) Subject: Fwd: CPI(ML) leaders attacked -- Original message -- From:santosh rana ranag...@in.com Date: 22 Dec 10

Re: [MLL] I denounce the statement below advocating . . . . .

2010-12-22 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 12/21/2010 7:31:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, _frankied...@yahoo.com_ (mailto:frankied...@yahoo.com) writes: The Bourgeois State police kill a youth in NYC practically every week and get away with it. One day, I say, people are just gonna start shooting back.

Re: [MLL] I denounce the statement below advocating . . . . .

2010-12-22 Thread Mark Scott
If you think the October Revolution was not violent then I suggest it is you that does not draw the right lessons from history and should reinvestigate matters.  The October Revolution encompassed a variety of strategies but it was also extremely violent.   My so-called

[MLL] A Question For Mr. Jayaprakash

2010-12-22 Thread Mark Scott
Mr. Jayaprakash,   What is your relationship to this list?  Are you a moderator or just a member like myself?   Mark Scott ___ Marxist-Leninist-List mailing list Marxist-Leninist-List@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go

Re: [MLL] I denounce the statement below advocating . . . . .

2010-12-22 Thread Mark Scott
Mr Jayaprakash,   You amaze me.  No where have I compared Stalin to Trotsky.  You are very adept at turning things upside down and on its head!   What do you think the dictatorship of the proletariat is?  Who do you think wrote about the dictatorship of the proletariat?  Do you think this is my

Re: [MLL] I denounce the statement below advocating . . . . .

2010-12-22 Thread frankenstein580
The only one who continues blabbing about extermination is you.  You are causing trouble. --- On Wed, 12/22/10, waistli...@aol.com waistli...@aol.com wrote: From: waistli...@aol.com waistli...@aol.com Subject: Re: [MLL] I denounce the statement below advocating . . . . . To:

Re: [MLL] I denounce the statement below advocating . . . . .

2010-12-22 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 12/22/2010 6:05:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, frankied...@yahoo.com writes: The only one who continues blabbing about extermination is you. You are causing trouble. Comment You are factually mistaken. I DID NOT RAISE THE QUESTION. Do you suggest I raised the

Re: [MLL] I denounce the statement below advocating . . . . .

2010-12-22 Thread frankenstein580
  I'm telling your clearly, Mr.,  that YOU keep bringing up the issue of extermination.  And that YOU are causing trouble here on this LIST. --- On Wed, 12/22/10, waistli...@aol.com waistli...@aol.com wrote: From: waistli...@aol.com waistli...@aol.com Subject: Re: [MLL] I denounce the

Re: [MLL] I denounce the statement below advocating . . . . .

2010-12-22 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 12/22/2010 6:13:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, frankied...@yahoo.com writes: I'm telling your clearly, Mr., that YOU keep bringing up the issue of extermination. And that YOU are causing trouble here on this LIST. Reply This is simply not true. I did not

Re: [MLL] I denounce the statement below advocating . . . . .

2010-12-22 Thread frankenstein580
 I see quite clearly that you keep raising an issue that should be squashed already.  Mark Scott has been making himself quite clear already about what he really meant by his statement.   If you can't pick up the message, then you've got a problem in communication.  I believe that you should

Re: [MLL] I denounce the statement below advocating . . . . .

2010-12-22 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 12/22/2010 6:29:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, frankied...@yahoo.com writes: I see quite clearly that you keep raising an issue that should be squashed already. Mark Scott has been making himself quite clear already about what he really meant by his statement. If you

Re: [MLL] I denounce the statement below advocating . . . . .

2010-12-22 Thread frankenstein580
I read his material.  And I see the difference between the original quote and his later posts.   Find the quote yourself.  It's not my issue any more, it is yours and this LIST'S.  There was class war during the Bolshevik uprising, and there was class war during war communism.  It is the

Re: [MLL] I denounce the statement below advocating . . . . .

2010-12-22 Thread Mark Scott
Comrade f580,   Thank you for your support.  I will say that Melvin will only continue to try and paint me as a terrorist as he has for the last 5 years.  Melvin is not interested in even trying to understand anything but his own sophistry and pedantics in trying to revise Marxism.  It is clear

Re: [MLL] I denounce the statement below advocating . . . . .

2010-12-22 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 12/22/2010 6:53:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, frankied...@yahoo.com writes: There was class war during the Bolshevik uprising, and there was class war during war communism. It is the Imperialists and not members of this list who practice terrorism. It is YOU and not

[MLL] I denounce . . . the issue that started the controversy

2010-12-22 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated . . . . . . , __mark1scot...@yahoo.com_ (mailto:_mark1scot...@yahoo.com) writes: Marx may have perceived the issue of slavery as the main contradiction but it was not Lincoln's nor was it the South's if one researches all the contradictions. Lincoln clearly states it

[MLL] Unions unite against FBI raids.

2010-12-22 Thread frankenstein580
Dear LIST Comrades, This is email and forwarded material, it is not my composition.  I post it For Your Information. f580 Dear Friends - At the committee meeting on Sunday, I announced that SEIU Illinois State Council adopted the resolution put forward by my union, SEIU Local 73 to

Re: [MLL] I denounce the statement below advocating . . . . .

2010-12-22 Thread frankenstein580
WL: You state it is I and the intelligence agencies of the bourgeoisie,  specifically the secret police, that is responsible for what Mr. Mark Scott  wrote, because what he wrote was as slip of the tongue, which he REFUSE TO SAY  WAS A SLIP OF THE TONGUE. COMMENT: You misconstrue things

Re: [MLL] I denounce the statement below advocating . . . . .

2010-12-22 Thread Jayaprakash ND
Dear Mark Scott, Please let us not start distributing certificates to each other regarding our understanding of Marxism; that is just a pointless exercise. You say you have not compared Stalin with Trotsky. That is why I requested you to re-read what you had written. I merely tried to interpret