On Thu, 2015-05-28 at 21:20 +0200, Egmont Koblinger wrote:
Another thing that occurred to me: to save on long term development
costs, we should simplify the codebase and get rid of alternatives.
Hi Egmont,
These are all good points, and I generally agree, but it would be good
to first
On Thu, 2015-05-28 at 12:11 +0200, Egmont Koblinger wrote:
I disagree that a 20hrs/week commitment is required from someone. I
don't think it's the right model, and we're unlikely to find anyone.
There were times (about a year ago) when I had tons of time to
contribute, yet mainstream dev's
Hello,
On Thu, 28 May 2015 12:11:04 +0200
Egmont Koblinger egm...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi guys,
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Instead, I believe it should be a core with 3-5 people who have
similar working style and similar vision of the project, and each
contribute just a few hours per week.
Yes. And generally, it
Hello,
On Sat, 30 May 2015 13:56:54 +0200
Oswald Buddenhagen oswald.buddenha...@gmx.de wrote:
On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 02:08:37PM +0300, Paul Sokolovsky wrote:
On Sat, 30 May 2015 11:53:58 +0200 Oswald Buddenhagen
oswald.buddenha...@gmx.de wrote:
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 12:46:08AM +0300,
Hello,
On Sat, 30 May 2015 11:53:58 +0200
Oswald Buddenhagen oswald.buddenha...@gmx.de wrote:
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 12:46:08AM +0300, Paul Sokolovsky wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2015 22:28:15 +0200 Yury V. Zaytsev
y...@shurup.com wrote:
For example, one could have set up a script to import
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 12:46:08AM +0300, Paul Sokolovsky wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2015 22:28:15 +0200 Yury V. Zaytsev y...@shurup.com wrote:
For example, one could have set up a script to import Trac tickets
into Github Issues. There are many half-way working scripts floating
around, but they
On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 02:08:37PM +0300, Paul Sokolovsky wrote:
On Sat, 30 May 2015 11:53:58 +0200 Oswald Buddenhagen
oswald.buddenha...@gmx.de wrote:
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 12:46:08AM +0300, Paul Sokolovsky wrote:
You again trying to over-complicate. Start from a clean page on
On Sat, 2015-05-30 at 14:08 +0300, Paul Sokolovsky wrote:
But I was asked would I take maintainership myself, and I provided the
answer.
Sorry, I missed the answer in your numerous emails. My understanding
was that there was no answer, that is you don't want to make any clear
commitments
On Sat, 2015-05-30 at 13:56 +0200, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
(midnight-commander.org is owned privately by slavaz).
Just to set the record straight:
1) The domain itself is now paid managed by me through a collective
account, to which Slava and the rest of the team have access to.
2) In what
Yury,
That's the reason to decommission existing infrastructure asap - you pay
for the things that work against your productivity.
I see that you not so interested in migration as you didn't answer my
question in private. So I'm asking it here:
1) What db backend do you use in trac?
2) I'm ready
Hello,
On Sat, 30 May 2015 13:57:32 +0200
Yury V. Zaytsev y...@shurup.com wrote:
On Sat, 2015-05-30 at 14:08 +0300, Paul Sokolovsky wrote:
But I was asked would I take maintainership myself, and I provided
the answer.
Sorry, I missed the answer in your numerous emails.
Please see
On Sat, 2015-05-30 at 15:22 +0300, Paul Sokolovsky wrote:
Everything will be done on best effort basis, just the same as was
done before, and as always the case with OpenSource projects.
That's nonsense; most successful open source projects have drivers who
are either employed to invest time
Hello,
On Sat, 30 May 2015 14:59:04 +0200
Yury V. Zaytsev y...@shurup.com wrote:
On Sat, 2015-05-30 at 15:22 +0300, Paul Sokolovsky wrote:
Everything will be done on best effort basis, just the same as was
done before, and as always the case with OpenSource projects.
That's nonsense;
On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Yury V. Zaytsev y...@shurup.com wrote:
On Sat, 2015-05-30 at 08:23 -0400, Volodymyr Buell wrote:
That's the reason to decommission existing infrastructure asap - you
pay for the things that work against your productivity.
I've heard this before, and you
On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 02:47:02PM +0200, Yury V. Zaytsev wrote:
Under these circumstances, I can stick my own (very negative) opinion
of Github issue tracker somewhere deep down, and accept that the tools
are chosen by those people who do the real work. If they like Github
issues and they
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 12:46:08AM +0300, Paul Sokolovsky wrote:
And, btw, can current github committers be enumerated please? I based
a maintainer list in the original mail based on Midnight Commander
org on github: https://github.com/MidnightCommander . It doesn't
include you, Yury, so I
Another thing that occurred to me: to save on long term development costs,
we should simplify the codebase and get rid of alternatives.
Slang and ncurses - keep one, drop the other
Glib regex and pcre - same
Charset: there are 5 possibilities handled by branches throughout the code
(built
Hi guys,
I'm sorry to hear about this... but honestly it didn't surprise me. I
think anyone could have seen that this was going to happen, it was only a
matter of time - few months, a year or two maybe.
What I'm really sad about is that the issue has been raised a couple of
times already, yet
Hello,
There was a post on a popular Russian-speaking IT site geektimes.ru
authored from an account with an associated full name Ilia Maslakov
titled (translated) ms is over!?: http://geektimes.ru/post/250964/
Link to author's account is at the bottom of the article:
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27.05.2015 13:37, Paul Sokolovsky пишет:
Hi all,
The current maintainers, namely Andrew Borodin, Slava Zanko, Ilia
Maslakov, Sergei Trofimovich - please provide full disclosure of
what happens within your team. Whatever it is, please show
Hi - Although I just signed on to the team to try to work with documentation, mc
is one of the most important tools in my box. Therefore, despite the fact that I
have very little coding experience on a project like this, I am certainly
willing to learn anything necessary to keep mc alive.
I
Please organise a pol to choose a right person.
Personally my opinion - why not to give a steering wheel to Mooffie - the
author of mc^2 fork? It seems like he did much more for mc than anybody
else in past few years.
I suggest his candidature.
On May 27, 2015 8:19 AM, Slava Zanko
On 5/27/15, Paul Sokolovsky pmis...@gmail.com wrote:
happens within your team. Whatever it is, please show goodwill by
adding Egmont Koblinger to the maintainer team, if he agrees
I second that!
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Hi Luca,
27.05.2015 14:43, Luca Lazzarini wrote:
Hi all! I am Luca, it is the first time that I write here.
Honestly I cannot let mc die, so I would be happy to offer myself
as volunteer to help the development.
I am a web developer, for the
On 5/27/15, Volodymyr Buell vbu...@gmail.com wrote:
Please organise a pol to choose a right person.
Personally my opinion - why not to give a steering wheel to Mooffie
Hey, hold the horses. I'm not at all a programming hotshot, and being
practically anonymous here so far, I should be treated
Everything you said is right. But what current mc lacks are new features.
Developers can be very good at code refactoring or cleaning-up or rewriting
the editor to support charset detection... but in reality what people want
is the tool that do what THEY want - and yes, plugins ARE the solution.
Hello,
On Wed, 27 May 2015 21:04:33 +0200
Yury V. Zaytsev y...@shurup.com wrote:
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If you have been following the development, it would have been known
to you that, as a matter of fact, all relevant discussions to the
development of mc in the last 4-5 years were happening in Russian
On Wed, 2015-05-27 at 13:37 +0300, Paul Sokolovsky wrote:
There was a post on a popular Russian-speaking IT site geektimes.ru
authored from an account with an associated full name Ilia Maslakov
titled (translated) ms is over!?: http://geektimes.ru/post/250964/
I can confirm that this is
On Wed, 2015-05-27 at 18:42 +0300, Mooffie wrote:
Second, Andrew Borodin has been doing a tremendous (and fantastic)
work of cleaning up the code. People perhaps aren't aware of this. It
won't be right to say that MC stagnates.
Andrew was one of the best maintainers that I have seen so far,
On Wed, 2015-05-27 at 12:30 -0400, Volodymyr Buell wrote:
Just give people a chance and github would bursting with mc
extensions...
Let me give you an example:
One contributor came up with an idea to fix a bug add a new feature;
the patch was applied without much ado. A severe regression
On Wed, 2015-05-27 at 14:35 +0200, Luca Lazzarini wrote:
The sooner I get the access to the repository, the sooner I can start
to check the code.
Hi Luca,
You already have (read) access to the repository:
https://github.com/MidnightCommander/mc
The issue tracking system is (currently) at
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