Re: MD: Why does Sony not have earbuds on US models?

2000-07-20 Thread Dan Frakes
las [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are people on the list that insist that earbuds cost more to make then a comparable pair of headphones. Now that might be true. But so far no one has been able to document what they are saying. They are making an assumption as far as I am concerned until a

Re: MD: Why does Sony not have earbuds on US models?

2000-07-19 Thread Ralph Smeets
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As an aside, even though making wafers smaller reduces materials cost, the cost of etching increases as the size of the wafer decreases. The point of cutting them smaller is to increase speed, not reduce cost. Wrong, the wafer size stays the same. It's the die

Re: MD: Why does Sony not have earbuds on US models?

2000-07-19 Thread las
Ralph, your not off topic. The topic is why Sony sells packages headphones instead of earbuds in the US. There are people on the list that insist that earbuds cost more to make then a comparable pair of headphones. Now that might be true. But so far no one has been able to document what they

Re: MD: Why does Sony not have earbuds on US models?

2000-07-19 Thread Stainless Steel Rat
* las [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, 19 Jul 2000 | Now that might be true. But so far no one has been able to document what | they are saying. Look at any audio supply catalog. Look at Sennheiser's catalog. Look at Sony's. Compare specs and prices. See for yourself. Earbuds cost more than

Re: MD: Why does Sony not have earbuds on US models?

2000-07-18 Thread Jeff J. Voeller
On 17 Jul 2000, at 17:27, Alexander Dietrich wrote: Sorry, but that's just not true. I don't know if american headphones are built differently, but riding Hamburg's subway I'm always amazed at how loud people can turn their earbuds and NOT have their eyes come out bleeding. I tried and

Re: MD: Why does Sony not have earbuds on US models?

2000-07-18 Thread Stainless Steel Rat
* las [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 17 Jul 2000 | B but possibly also AG. Unless you are an executive at one of the | companies that manufactures both headphones and earbuds, there is know way to | know with perfect certainty that it cost more to make earbuds. Sure we can. We don't know how much

Re: MD: Why does Sony not have earbuds on US models?

2000-07-18 Thread Ralph Smeets
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * las [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 17 Jul 2000 | B but possibly also AG. Unless you are an executive at one of the | companies that manufactures both headphones and earbuds, there is know way to | know with perfect certainty that it cost more to make earbuds.

Re: MD: Why does Sony not have earbuds on US models?

2000-07-18 Thread Stainless Steel Rat
As an aside, even though making wafers smaller reduces materials cost, the cost of etching increases as the size of the wafer decreases. The point of cutting them smaller is to increase speed, not reduce cost. -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ Warning: pregnant women, the elderly, and Minion of

Re: MD: Why does Sony not have earbuds on US models?

2000-07-18 Thread las
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Yeah, I also find it hard to believe that

Re: MD: Why does Sony not have earbuds on US models?

2000-07-18 Thread las
InterSil semi conductor company is right where I live. (they used to be RCA then GE then Harris), I can ask them if what you are saying is true. Larry Stainless Steel Rat wrote: As an aside, even though making wafers smaller reduces materials cost, the cost of etching increases as the size

Re: MD: Why does Sony not have earbuds on US models?

2000-07-17 Thread Dan Frakes
las [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sony doesn't include earbuds on US model products. Does anyone know why? Because a) they cost more for equivalent audio quality and b) the average American doesn't like them. I'm not sure that "a" is correct. But I believe that "b" is the reason. While it may

Re: MD: Why does Sony not have earbuds on US models?

2000-07-17 Thread Jeff J. Voeller
On 16 Jul 2000, at 23:18, J. Coon wrote: I think the real reason is so the cops can tell if you are driving and listening to MD. As someone who would prefer to ride public transit but can't deal with the people, I think Americans prefer headphones to earbuds because earbuds can't be

Re: MD: Why does Sony not have earbuds on US models?

2000-07-17 Thread Alexander Dietrich
Jeff J. Voeller wrote: with the people, I think Americans prefer headphones to earbuds because earbuds can't be heard by others but headphones can ruin the morning for an entire busload of strangers. Sorry, but that's just not true. I don't know if american headphones are built

Re: MD: Why does Sony not have earbuds on US models?

2000-07-17 Thread las
Sorry, but that's just not true. I don't know if american headphones are built differently, but riding Hamburg's subway I'm always amazed at how loud people can turn their earbuds and NOT have their eyes come out bleeding. I tried and turned my own volume up until it started to hurt, but

Re: MD: Why does Sony not have earbuds on US models?

2000-07-17 Thread J. Coon
las wrote: I don't think that it is a volume thing. A properly designed headphone when on a person's ears should not be giving off loud sounds. Except when they open their mouth. - To stop getting this list send a message

Re: MD: Why does Sony not have earbuds on US models?

2000-07-17 Thread las
Hee, Hee. You must be thing of the movie "48 Hours" where Nick Nolte goes to get Eddie Murphy from jail and Murphy is screaming out Roxanne when he has a headset on. Larry "J. Coon" wrote: las wrote: I don't think that it is a volume thing. A properly designed headphone when on a

Re: MD: Why does Sony not have earbuds on US models?

2000-07-17 Thread Dan Frakes
las [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone made the statement that one reason was because it costs more to make earbuds of equal quality to regular headphones. That's not it either. First of all, before you make a statement like that, you had better have data to back it up. Larry: Just to be

Re: MD: Why does Sony not have earbuds on US models?

2000-07-17 Thread las
Dan, B but possibly also AG. Unless you are an executive at one of the companies that manufactures both headphones and earbuds, there is know way to know with perfect certainty that it cost more to make earbuds. In a way you are comparing apples and oranges. That's because there are

MD: Why does Sony not have earbuds on US models?

2000-07-16 Thread Kenton A. Hoover
Sony doesn't include earbuds on US model products. Does anyone know why? -- | Kenton A. Hoover | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Private Citizen || | Motorcycle Mobile, 1998 BMW R11RT, CA 15B7022 |

Re: MD: Why does Sony not have earbuds on US models?

2000-07-16 Thread Taky Cheung
Americans have bigger ear holes??? earbud won't fit. hehe just kidding. - Original Message - From: "Kenton A. Hoover" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 9:40 AM Subject: MD: Why does Sony not have earbuds on US models? Sony doesn't inclu

Re: MD: Why does Sony not have earbuds on US models?

2000-07-16 Thread Stainless Steel Rat
* "Kenton A. Hoover" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, 16 Jul 2000 | Sony doesn't include earbuds on US model products. Does anyone know why? Because a) they cost more for equivalent audio quality and b) the average American doesn't like them. -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ Do not taunt Happy Fun

Re: MD: Why does Sony not have earbuds on US models?

2000-07-16 Thread las
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === I'm not sure that "a" is correct. But I

Re: MD: Why does Sony not have earbuds on US models?

2000-07-16 Thread las
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === I don't know if this is the reason why they

Re: MD: Why does Sony not have earbuds on US models?

2000-07-16 Thread J. Coon
Taky Cheung wrote: Americans have bigger ear holes??? earbud won't fit. hehe just kidding. Pretty funny Taky. LOL I think the real reason is so the cops can tell if you are driving and listening to MD. Just a guess.. -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker.