RE: MD: MD Data 2 - why can't it be marketed as a "Zip killer"?

2001-04-08 Thread Howard Chu
I asked Sony this exact question, several months ago. Got no response. It may be that they want to go this direction, but aren't talking about it yet. It amazes me that it would take them so long to release such a product. -- Howard Chu Chief Architect, Symas Corp. Director, Highland S

RE: MD: MD-Data discs

2001-04-08 Thread Howard Chu
> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 15:51:34 +1000 > From: "Stephen Dampf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hey all, I thought MD's could only hold 100mbs or so of data yet > now this MD Camcorder etc implies that MD "data" discs can hold 650mbs. Can someone > clarify this for me? > Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 13:11:58 -050

Re: MD: MD Data 2 - why can't it be marketed as a "Zip killer"?

2001-04-07 Thread Taky Cheung
CTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 12:14 AM Subject: Re: MD: MD Data 2 - why can't it be marketed as a "Zip killer"? > > If Sony improved the disc access time for MD Data so that it is > >comparable to a hard disk, they could end up with a prod

RE: MD: MD Data 2 - why can't it be marketed as a "Zip killer"?

2001-04-07 Thread Chad Gombosi
> > "iomega makes good products"? have you ever heard of the click of death? > > > >No. Really? Wow. I thought everyone would have experienced this crap by now. Basicly you put a Zip disk (usually in another machine than the one you normally use it in) and instead of it reading, it just keeps

Re: MD: MD Data 2 - why can't it be marketed as a "Zip killer"?

2001-04-07 Thread Chad Gombosi
If Sony improved the disc access time for MD Data so that it is >comparable to a hard disk, they could end up with a product that overtakes >Iomega's low-end removeable data storage solutions easily. Yeah but do you know what you are asking here? MD is opti-magnetic which means there are two he

Re: MD: MD Data 2 - why can't it be marketed as a "Zip killer"?

2001-04-07 Thread Robert J. Lynn Jr.
> > "iomega makes good products"? have you ever heard of the click of death? > > > > No. It's a problem in ZIP Drives where the head would get lodged inthe ZIP disc, and the "click" noize the head armature made as it loaded and unloaded from the ZIP cartridge. It, for the most part, destroyed the

RE: MD: MD Data 2 - why can't it be marketed as a "Zip killer"?

2001-04-07 Thread .
> "iomega makes good products"? have you ever heard of the click of death? > No. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: MD: MD Data 2 - why can't it be marketed as a "Zip killer"?

2001-04-07 Thread Matt Wall
e you ever heard of the click of death? - Original Message - From: "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 5:33 PM Subject: RE: MD: MD Data 2 - why can't it be marketed as a "Zip killer"? > > > Well,

RE: MD: MD Data Discs

2001-04-07 Thread .
> it says MD Data2 discs so I'm guessing that they're just usin' > some sort of > new compression It would have to be more than that. It still holds five times as much actual data than the audio MD. I think they're also doing work at the actual read/write level with putting sectors closer togeth

RE: MD: MD Data 2 - why can't it be marketed as a "Zip killer"?

2001-04-07 Thread .
> Well, > I think anyone who buys Iomega products deserves the shafting > they get with > the inferior products: > Here's Iomega's MD competetor: > http://www.iomega.com/hipzip/index.html > $299, with 40MB (20 minutes of 256kbps MP3) media costing $10. > Wow, they are > REAL cool! I use an iome

RE: MD: MD Data 2 - why can't it be marketed as a "Zip killer"?

2001-04-07 Thread .
> Well, > I think anyone who buys Iomega products deserves the shafting > they get with > the inferior products: > Here's Iomega's MD competetor: > http://www.iomega.com/hipzip/index.html > $299, with 40MB (20 minutes of 256kbps MP3) media costing $10. > Wow, they are > REAL cool! I use an iome

Re: MD: MD Data 2 - why can't it be marketed as a "Zip killer"?

2001-04-07 Thread Robert J. Lynn Jr.
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Well, I think anyone who buys Iomega products d

Re: MD: MD Data Discs

2001-04-06 Thread Zach Prichard
it says MD Data2 discs so I'm guessing that they're just usin' some sort of new compression z - Original Message - From: "Stephen Dampf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 12:51 AM Subject: MD: MD Data Discs > > Hey all, I thought MD's could only

Re: MD: MD Data

2000-04-03 Thread Chris Eddington
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Where can I get one? ( or get complete info on

Re: MD: MD Data

2000-04-03 Thread Edward Foster
I'm looking for NT drivers thats all. I thought that maybe the people who own them might have some. Thanks eD - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: MD: MD Data

2000-04-03 Thread jds
Yes I think there are a few people on this list with mdh-10's is that all you wanted to know??? -Jeffrey -- The day MS makes something that doesn't suck will be the day they start making vacuum cleaners. On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Edward Foster wrote: > > New question. Does anybody have any Sony

Re: MD: MD data conversion

1999-09-30 Thread Ralph Smeets
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Yes they do, but that doesn't mean achieving a higher data rate isn;t possible > using combinations of tones an ATRAC algorithm wouldn't trash. If you > calibratedthe volume, you could probably come up with a system that not only > combined tones but also changes in vo

Re: MD: MD data conversion

1999-09-29 Thread Magic
PrinceGaz wrote: > Hey, the ZX Spectrum (the finest 8-bit machine made) stored data > using monaural audio. It averaged about 1500bps, not exactly > super fast, but faster than the ZX81 which was only about 300bps. *cough* Excuse me! Best 8 bit machine? No way! Not as far as Data storage was c

Re: MD: MD data conversion Zip Drive Click of Death?

1999-09-28 Thread Remko van der Vossen
I'm on my 3rd zip drive (not problems with the drive) sold the first one to a friend (SCSI ZIP 100) Still using the second and third one one is a 100 the other is a new 250 never had a problem with any of them.. the one I sold my buddy is still using... The reports I read about the click of dea

Re: MD: MD data conversion Zip Drive Click of Death?

1999-09-28 Thread S J Gardner
OT i know, but.. :) I've had a parallel port zip drive for just over a year now - it's used a couple of times a week at uni, transported about a fair bit (in a proper case, but that's not a lot of protection), and the disks are often carried about uncased. I've not had a single problem, except

Re: MD: MD data conversion

1999-09-27 Thread PrinceGaz
al Message - From: Stainless Steel Rat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: MD-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 27 September 1999 14:55 Subject: Re: MD: MD data conversion > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > * Ralph Smeets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Mon, 27 Sep

Re: MD: MD data conversion Zip Drive Click of Death?

1999-09-27 Thread Magic
"J. Coon" wrote: > Has anyone experianced the "Click of death" Syndrom on ZIP drives? I > have one but haven't used it very much. I friend ran into this "Click > of Death" and lost a couple of his archives. Bummer. Wrong forum to discuss this issue, but I've been a ZIP drive user since they w

Re: MD: MD data conversion Zip Drive Click of Death?

1999-09-27 Thread Jeffrey D. Scorsone
I'm not sure why the output wasn't clearsigned, but here is the the orginal message: I'm on my 3rd zip drive (not problems with the drive) sold the first one to a friend (SCSI ZIP 100) Still using the second and third one one is a 100 the other is a new 250 never had a problem with any of them.

Re: MD: MD data conversion

1999-09-27 Thread laerm
On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Ralph Smeets wrote: > > You do not remember the days when personal computers used monaural audio > > cassette recorders for data storage, do you. :) > > > > Then again, a modem -- MOdulator-DEModulator works the same way, using > > analog tones to represent the bit stream.

Re: MD: MD data conversion

1999-09-27 Thread Ralph Smeets
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > * Ralph Smeets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Mon, 27 Sep 1999 > | 2) I think it would be possible to store data on a audio disc using the > |analog interface.. Use two frequencies, one for '0' and one for '1'. > > Y

Re: MD: MD data conversion

1999-09-27 Thread Stainless Steel Rat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As others have said, it is probably not such a great idea. The ZIP disk has been mentioned. There are also 1GB and 2GB Jaz removable cartridge hard drives available. Sony has a new 640MB capacity 3.5" diskette drive intended to compete with 3M's 1

Re: MD: MD data conversion

1999-09-27 Thread Stainless Steel Rat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Ralph Smeets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Mon, 27 Sep 1999 | 2) I think it would be possible to store data on a audio disc using the |analog interface.. Use two frequencies, one for '0' and one for '1'. You do not remember the days when personal co

Re: MD: MD data conversion Zip Drive Click of Death?

1999-09-27 Thread Stainless Steel Rat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Ralph Smeets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Mon, 27 Sep 1999 | I gues somebody who stored his mail on minidisc and send it to MD-L? Nah. Just the stupidity of a Reply-To header pointing at a mailing list making it difficult to send a reply to the origin

Re: MD: MD data conversion Zip Drive Click of Death?

1999-09-27 Thread Ralph Smeets
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Re: MD: MD data conversion

1999-09-27 Thread Ralph Smeets
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > currently i am involved in a research project in my computer engineering > studies to allow a home audio md unit (je510 initially... same process for > others) to store data and audio on the same disc.. if this conversion was > patented and fairly cheap, do you all f

Re: MD: MD data conversion Zip Drive Click of Death?

1999-09-26 Thread Jeffrey D. Scorsone
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Re: MD: MD data conversion Zip Drive Click of Death?

1999-09-26 Thread J. Coon
Magic wrote: > > no. I currently use a parallel port 100Mb ZIP drive which has a data > throughput of 380kbytes/sec sustained. As it costs only £70 and offers much > better facilities being a dedicated drive, I Has anyone experianced the "Click of death" Syndrom on ZIP drives? I have one but ha

Re: MD: MD data conversion

1999-09-26 Thread Magic
"robert.justice" wrote: > currently i am involved in a research project in my computer engineering > studies to allow a home audio md unit (je510 initially... same process for > others) to store data and audio on the same disc.. if this conversion was > patented and fairly cheap, do you all feel

Re: MD: MD data conversion

1999-09-26 Thread Remko van der Vossen
>currently i am involved in a research project in my computer engineering >studies to allow a home audio md unit (je510 initially... same process for >others) to store data and audio on the same disc.. if this conversion was >patented and fairly cheap, do you all feel there is a market for this?