Re: [MeeGo-dev] Simulator events

2010-07-14 Thread Thiago Macieira
that kind of events inside the Simulator? A single-touch event is no different than a mouse event. So just click wherever you want the touch to happen. A touch with multiple fingers, however, is more complicated. I don't think there's any way to simulate that. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo deliberately incompatible with other distros

2010-07-10 Thread Thiago Macieira
is the exception, the point is that there is one. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: E067 918B B660 DBD1 105C 966C 33F5 F005 6EF4 5358 signature.asc Description

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo deliberately incompatible with other distros

2010-07-10 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Saturday 10. July 2010 11.14.45 Felipe Contreras wrote: On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Thiago Macieira thi...@kde.org wrote: On Saturday 10. July 2010 10.26.01 Felipe Contreras wrote: Right, but in this case Mandriva is the exception; openSUSE and Fedora are fine

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo deliberately incompatible with other distros

2010-07-09 Thread Thiago Macieira
are distro-specific. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: E067 918B B660 DBD1 105C 966C 33F5 F005 6EF4 5358 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Corporate email use? (Was Re: MeeGo deliberately incompatible with other distros)

2010-07-09 Thread Thiago Macieira
using your corporate email :-) -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: E067 918B B660 DBD1 105C 966C 33F5 F005 6EF4 5358 signature.asc Description

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Browser API HELP

2010-07-08 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Thursday 8. July 2010 08.57.29 Amit Khare wrote: I am not able to find any MeegoTouch API using which i can open an URL in the native browser QDesktopServices::openUrl -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development

Re: [MeeGo-dev] developers wanted for MeeGo, Xmpp, Ipv6 project

2010-07-08 Thread Thiago Macieira
already done for an answer. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: E067 918B B660 DBD1 105C 966C 33F5 F005 6EF4 5358 signature.asc Description

Re: [MeeGo-dev] developers wanted for MeeGo, Xmpp, Ipv6 project

2010-07-08 Thread Thiago Macieira
have IPv6. IPv6 will not remove firewalls. People will have unique addresses, but reachability is not a guarantee. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: E067

Re: [MeeGo-dev] developers wanted for MeeGo, Xmpp, Ipv6 project

2010-07-08 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Friday 9. July 2010 00.20.29 Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: On jeu., 2010-07-08 at 19:29 +0200, Thiago Macieira wrote: IPv6 will not remove firewalls. People will have unique addresses, but reachability is not a guarantee. And with IPv6 end-to-end is (again) the norm, not the exception

Re: [MeeGo-dev] After handset day one - a plea for openness

2010-07-07 Thread Thiago Macieira
that this is the solution for MeeGo. Any development behind closed doors would have to come public or risk being preempted. (yes, I'm serious and no, I don't know what's being developed that is not public) -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager

Re: [MeeGo-dev] After handset day one - a plea for openness

2010-07-07 Thread Thiago Macieira
. It just means ofono is a good piece of software. Kudos to Marcel and other contributors. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: E067 918B B660 DBD1 105C 966C

Re: [MeeGo-dev] developer hardware mobile from nokia needed

2010-07-03 Thread Thiago Macieira
Aava mobile phones The N900 is also the only Maemo phone released. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: E067 918B B660 DBD1 105C 966C 33F5 F005 6EF4 5358

Re: [MeeGo-dev] ARM + Meego?

2010-06-23 Thread Thiago Macieira
glibc (not uclibc or newlib) and a full Qt will have stricter requirements than other systems. And also note that MeeGo will require OpenGL ES 2 in the handset UX, so you should get an ARM system that has a good video device and driver. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Power Managemengards

2010-06-23 Thread Thiago Macieira
device. I woke up one morning and it was unusable. Solution: removed it, for good. Such apps in the store would get quickly negative rating. And as a matter of commercial sense, those apps should be screened out too. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Qt Mobility says Hello MeeGo World!

2010-06-22 Thread Thiago Macieira
to write. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: E067 918B B660 DBD1 105C 966C 33F5 F005 6EF4 5358 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message

Re: [MeeGo-dev] multimedia architecture

2010-06-22 Thread Thiago Macieira
. if you want to write a super advanced video editing application, maybe you want a deeper level of control. Not to mention that GStreamer isn't common in other platforms than Linux. You may not care about them, and MeeGo also probably doesn't, but Qt does. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago

Re: [MeeGo-dev] multimedia architecture

2010-06-22 Thread Thiago Macieira
there's more to this module than wrapping around GStreamer. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: E067 918B B660 DBD1 105C 966C 33F5 F005 6EF4 5358

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Porting meego to new hardware

2010-06-21 Thread Thiago Macieira
porting of a distro, so I can't comment on that. What does it involve, besides rebuilding everything? Once the ports reach certain maturity, you should ask the TSG to bless it and therefore gain OBS space. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product

Re: [MeeGo-dev] How I tried and tried to build a MeeGo image for an ARM device - failure story

2010-06-20 Thread Thiago Macieira
accomplished using so broken tools? Probably no one is working on that, but working on other things. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: E067 918B B660 DBD1

Re: [MeeGo-dev] How I tried and tried to build a MeeGo image for an ARM device - failure story

2010-06-20 Thread Thiago Macieira
Em Segunda-feira 21. Junho 2010, às 00.33.19, Tomasz Sterna escreveu: Dnia 2010-06-20, nie o godzinie 23:15 +0200, Thiago Macieira pisze: - Do you really consider yourself Open, if nobody outside your paid developers ring could build a MeeGo distribution image? That's a stupid question

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Qt 4.7 packaging for MeeGo 1.1

2010-06-17 Thread Thiago Macieira
version, but Windows and Mac will definitely not be. In fact, the Mac SDK builds require scripts to move the frameworks to places outside $PREFIX that aren't part of the Qt build itself. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Qt 4.7 packaging for MeeGo 1.1

2010-06-17 Thread Thiago Macieira
, definitely, but it will probably be upgraded by an external package later on. Whether MeeGo will upgrade to QtWebKit 2.1 or stick to 2.0, I don't know. It will probably not upgrade until MeeGo 1.2. As for multimedia, it's required by Mobility. You can't compile it out. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Qt 4.7 packaging for MeeGo 1.1

2010-06-17 Thread Thiago Macieira
there until 5.0. MultimediaKit from Mobility doesn't carry the same soname, even if it carries copies of the same classes. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Qt 4.7 packaging for MeeGo 1.1

2010-06-17 Thread Thiago Macieira
irrelevant for the topic at hand. I am asking about the builds done with OBS. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: E067 918B B660 DBD1 105C 966C 33F5 F005 6EF4 5358

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Qt 4.7 packaging for MeeGo 1.1

2010-06-17 Thread Thiago Macieira
and ABI promises here (something like Qt WebKit does). Could someone clarify Qt Multimedia/Kit situation ? QtMultimedia in Qt 4.6 has to stay. The Mobility version is not a drop-in replacement. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia

[MeeGo-dev] Qt 4.7 packaging for MeeGo 1.1

2010-06-16 Thread Thiago Macieira
? -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: E067 918B B660 DBD1 105C 966C 33F5 F005 6EF4 5358 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Qt 4.7 packaging for MeeGo 1.1

2010-06-16 Thread Thiago Macieira
rejected patches and unsubmitted ones. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: E067 918B B660 DBD1 105C 966C 33F5 F005 6EF4 5358 signature.asc Description

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Qt 4.7 packaging for MeeGo 1.1

2010-06-16 Thread Thiago Macieira
MeeGo.com when we mean the upstream distribution, to avoid confusion with the MeeGo Computers division of Nokia and the MeeGo-based images productised by Nokia for its devices. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Security architecture

2010-06-10 Thread Thiago Macieira
not PolKit back then was that it required applications to be changed. PS: yes, I'm a Nokia employee; see below. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: E067 918B B660

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Security architecture

2010-06-09 Thread Thiago Macieira
depends how the open sourcing and merging to upstream goes. Did I answer your question ? FYI, a number of patches were posted to the D-Bus mailing list a couple of days ago. As expected, the mailing list's reaction was use PolKit... -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Summit - Structured brainstorming format in the form of BOFs and Wiki Specs.

2010-06-03 Thread Thiago Macieira
or 8°S, it really doesn't make any difference -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: E067 918B B660 DBD1 105C 966C 33F5 F005 6EF4 5358 signature.asc Description

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Information about MeeGo project development figures

2010-06-03 Thread Thiago Macieira
developers working full-time, exclusively on Qt. But Qt is also developed for systems other than MeeGo. How many of those 150 would you count, if any? -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Not getting web browser choices

2010-05-28 Thread Thiago Macieira
think the answer is quite simple: there are no good, productised QtWebKit- based browsers yet. Yes, there's Arora. And I'd love to see it as an option. But is it good enough already? -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Not getting web browser choices

2010-05-28 Thread Thiago Macieira
, or with gtkwebkit for that matter. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: E067 918B B660 DBD1 105C 966C 33F5 F005 6EF4 5358 signature.asc Description

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Not getting web browser choices

2010-05-28 Thread Thiago Macieira
Em Sexta-feira 28 Maio 2010, às 15:46:22, Markus escreveu: Am Freitag 28 Mai 2010, 13:48:30 schrieb Thiago Macieira: I think the answer is quite simple: there are no good, productised QtWebKit- based browsers yet. And why's that? At least on the handheld front the MeeGo and Symbian teams

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Making Symbian / MeeGo cross device

2010-05-26 Thread Thiago Macieira
Em Quarta-feira 26 Maio 2010, às 16:31:48, Levy escreveu: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:32, Thiago Macieira thi...@kde.org wrote: Em Quarta-feira 26 Maio 2010, às 09:51:33, Sivan Greenberg escreveu: Hi All, As MeeGo is about cross vendor OS, I would like to propose to have

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Future of hildon?

2010-05-24 Thread Thiago Macieira
they shouldn't be ported, but instead adapted to the new concept. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: E067 918B B660 DBD1 105C 966C 33F5 F005 6EF4 5358

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo compliance

2010-05-19 Thread Thiago Macieira
devices. I don't think this is a compliance issue. It's a communication issue. And I think the SDK should not include by default those extension APIs. But it should be possible to add them later, *consciously*. (I know what I'm doing, please install this library) -- Thiago Macieira - thiago

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo compliance

2010-05-19 Thread Thiago Macieira
), because their clear goal is to say my device is better. What steps we may take to discourage them, like the MeeGo compliant sticker and checkers, like the LSB checker, I don't know. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo compliance

2010-05-19 Thread Thiago Macieira
that are binary-compatible with MeeGo but aren't building on top of MeeGo need a separate sticker. This could include the .deb-based distros. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Transitional development questions

2010-04-26 Thread Thiago Macieira
build. And I think my other questions need to goto meego-sdk .. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: E067 918B B660 DBD1 105C 966C 33F5 F005 6EF4 5358

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Why writing DPI value hardy in uxlaunch?

2010-04-13 Thread Thiago Macieira
of devices will have wildly different real-DPI values, so those should be taken into account. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: E067 918B B660 DBD1 105C

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Does the img of meego just have terminal now? do not have MeeGo User Experiences ?

2010-04-07 Thread Thiago Macieira
Em Quarta-feira 07 Abril 2010, às 10:31:58, 金鑫 escreveu: I burn the img to my usb disk. when i boot my netbook from the usb disk...just terminal...have no MeeGo User Experiences . That's correct. This is an early developer release. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago

Re: [MeeGo-dev] CPU Architectures (was Re: Build for a standard PC)

2010-04-07 Thread Thiago Macieira
and GLES are not the only ways of accessing hardware acceleration, but they are the only ways MeeGo is interested in supporting. Qt also supports OpenVG) -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Building the Meego Dev Environment

2010-04-02 Thread Thiago Macieira
. In the meantime, can the MeeGo team issue some workround instructions? A .deb for pykickstart which we can download and install would be useful. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Building the Meego Dev Environment

2010-04-02 Thread Thiago Macieira
Em Sábado 3. Abril 2010, às 00.38.30, Graham Cobb escreveu: On Friday 02 April 2010 22:59:58 Thiago Macieira wrote: Why did you file it in bugzilla.meego.com? How is it MeeGo's problem that Debian doesn't have python-kickstart? Did you read the bug? 1) Auke stated that it is MeeGo

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Day 1 is here - opening up the MeeGo development

2010-03-31 Thread Thiago Macieira
the tarball would be different each time; due to different timestamps, etc. git archive generates tarballs exactly alike if you tell it to work on a tag. It uses the tag's timestamp. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Instructions for ARM / N900 (was Re: Da y 1 is here ...)

2010-03-31 Thread Thiago Macieira
with N900 devices back in October last year, in the Maemo Summit. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: E067 918B B660 DBD1 105C 966C 33F5 F005 6EF4 5358

Re: [MeeGo-dev] N900 Questions...

2010-03-22 Thread Thiago Macieira
not of Nokia or Intel here, but a small device vendor, a start-up. Please answer. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: E067 918B B660 DBD1 105C 966C 33F5 F005 6EF4

Re: [MeeGo-dev] N900 Questions...

2010-03-22 Thread Thiago Macieira
problem. I'm saying it's that vendor's problem. Your arguments seemed to imply that they shouldn't be _allowed_ to use non- open source drivers because they are using MeeGo. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development

Re: [MeeGo-dev] N900 Questions...

2010-03-22 Thread Thiago Macieira
with PowerVR SGX 530. Until someone develops *good* open-source drivers for it, we're stuck with the Imagination closed-source ones. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint

Re: [MeeGo-dev] N900 Questions...

2010-03-22 Thread Thiago Macieira
Em Segunda-feira 22 Março 2010, às 14:13:17, Marius Vollmer escreveu: ext Thiago Macieira thi...@kde.org writes: Until someone develops *good* open-source drivers for it, we're stuck with the Imagination closed-source ones. What is missing to make this happen? Sufficient documentation

Re: [MeeGo-dev] N900 Questions...

2010-03-22 Thread Thiago Macieira
the upper hand? -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: E067 918B B660 DBD1 105C 966C 33F5 F005 6EF4 5358 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Adobe Flash 10.1 on Meego

2010-03-15 Thread Thiago Macieira
under an approved license. But OEMs can still put Flash on top of the MeeGo core for their devices. My guess is Nokia will do that. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Meego IPv6

2010-03-12 Thread Thiago Macieira
seen input fields for IPs? We probably need to start testing applications in IPv6-only contexts. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: E067 918B B660 DBD1 105C

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Avoiding Fragmentation

2010-03-10 Thread Thiago Macieira
to be a naysayer, but I just don't think your plan could work in all cases. We probably need to work harder to ensure API compatibility across MeeGo versions and profiles. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks

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