[MBZ] Will 617 and 603 operate at compression of 15 bar

2007-11-12 Thread Peter Merle
Did compression test on my 124 and I getting an even 15 bar all round. Had the gauge itself ( without non-return valve ) tested and it actually was slightly overreading ! The question is will these engine start and run well with such a low compression. Oil consumption is close to zero. Peter __

Re: [MBZ] Bosch Nozzles

2007-11-12 Thread Mitch Haley
Peter Merle wrote: > > Had the nozzles tested at local Bosch Diesel shop and they seem to think > spray is OK. Fitted them and combustion noise ( "the diesel sound ") > seems a lot noisier ? Seems like you can't get German nozzles here , > will look out for Bosio Aren't worn nozzles supposed to b

Re: [MBZ] Bosch Nozzles

2007-11-12 Thread Tom Hargrave
The diesel clatter does not come from the injector opening, it comes from the combustion cycle. If a nozzle is worn to the point where it no longer sprays a cone or it leaks then the engine will be louder because some of the fuel will be unburned & will detonate with the next compression stroke. T

Re: [MBZ] John Robbins no longer owns the fastest 2.5 turbo I have seen

2007-11-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
I dont know for sure if its faster than yours or anyone elses, but it is SURE alot faster than it was. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "John Robbins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 11,

Re: [MBZ] Euroriffic 300D

2007-11-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Its NA, they never put a turbo motor with a stick. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Sunil Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Euroriffic 300D > je

Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices

2007-11-12 Thread Allan Streib
"Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > i'm not gonna light my furnace till december if at all. i'm working from > home. i've stopped using the washer and dryer. I hope you're still bathing Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com F

Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq

2007-11-12 Thread Allan Streib
"Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > guess there is a lesson here, but dont' take it so far as to be > ordering dominoes pizza in new york city Domino's used to be not half bad, until they replaced their deck ovens with automatic conveyorized ones. Easier (and safer) for the staff, but mak

Re: [MBZ] ML optimism

2007-11-12 Thread Allan Streib
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > He is reading the instant mileage readout on the dash which can show > numbers like this when on cruise on level ground. My departed C320's > readout has shown 32mpg at 60mph on cruise with no wind. In real > life it seldom got into the 26s, computed properly. Generall

Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq

2007-11-12 Thread Tom Hargrave
I actually have a long history with Domino's pizza and I remember the Bakers Pride ovens. And yes, they make a superior pizza. Bakers Pride ovens have a slate floor & the even heat from the slate adds a nutty flavor to the crust. Domino's did not want to move from Bakers Pride to belt ovens but th

Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq

2007-11-12 Thread Allan Streib
"Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I actually have a long history with Domino's pizza and I remember > the Bakers Pride ovens. And yes, they make a superior pizza. Bakers > Pride ovens have a slate floor & the even heat from the slate adds a > nutty flavor to the crust. I was in their m

Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices

2007-11-12 Thread Christopher McCann
BioD in Germany is about 1.20 Euro/literso it is not double, unless you use the more recent dollar to Euro conversion...but that is not a fair comparison because that is a problem with the falling dollar, not with Euro fuel prices. Chris Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have no i

Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq

2007-11-12 Thread Mitch Haley
Tom Hargrave wrote: > > I actually have a long history with Domino's pizza and I remember the Bakers > Pride ovens. And yes, they make a superior pizza. Bakers Pride ovens have a > slate floor & the even heat from the slate adds a nutty flavor to the crust. But if some moron shut the oven off w

Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices

2007-11-12 Thread Christopher McCann
the main problem we are seeing right now is the impact of China's Central Bank which on Nov 6 announced that it will begin diversifying its reserve currencies away from weak ones like the dollar towards strong currencies. It was a devastating statement and that date will be one that goes down in

Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices

2007-11-12 Thread Allan Streib
I got my numbers from a page on CNN's web site as a result of a Google search. The prices across Europe were not consistent -- Denmark, Sweden, and Norway were more than double as I recall, with other countries not that high but still more than what we are paying. Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [MBZ] MOD: **REAR** headrests in an SD...ideas?

2007-11-12 Thread Christopher McCann
SCORE! Pick N Pull had an '87 500SEL on Saturday. I got to it first :-). Got the head rests, the leather grommets and the brackets. This should be a cake walk...although I am scared to death to cut the leather. We had two more placed open: a U pick it on the KS side and MO side of the city. Th

Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq

2007-11-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Pizza hut is nasty, it always gives me the squirts. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq

Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq

2007-11-12 Thread Allan Streib
Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But if some moron shut the oven off when he went home for the night, > you could find it stone cold at 4pm, fire it up immediately, and you > would not be making pizza until after 8pm. I hated the Hobart > conveyors when I first saw them 20 years ago, but

Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices

2007-11-12 Thread Christopher McCann
that is the differing tax part, and they do pay way more taxes. But they don't pay more for crude. AND BioD is everywhere and the cheapest diesel fuel to be had, at least in Germany. In Germany, sales taxes on diesel cars are higher than gas cars...THAT I cannot comprehend. My German friend sai

[MBZ] overboost pressure sensor & switchover & cold shifting switchover valve

2007-11-12 Thread Christopher McCann
All replaced (and new vacuum hosing) and all problems solved. MAJOR improvement in acceleration and cold shifting. Thanks all for the advice. Chris & Wulf. Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 367K km, "Wulf" -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 58K miles, "The Behemoth"

Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq

2007-11-12 Thread John Robbins
Tom Hargrave wrote: > If you live in an area with a good franchise, a Domino's pizza is > still a good pizza. They never claimed to be the best & never will > but the good franchises produce a consistent quality product. The local one in Starkville does pretty good. Being a college town they ma

Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq

2007-11-12 Thread Robert Rentfro
Kaleb informed us: "Pizza hut is nasty, it always gives me the squirts." Thanks for that input...I hope this tangent doesn't hijack this subject line. Bob R. Squirteth not after eating Pizza Slut ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sp

Re: [MBZ] was famous dave's bbq; now pizza stuff

2007-11-12 Thread Robert Rentfro
I remember some stinkin' pizza outfit having a type of oven that was kind of like a multi leveled carrousel...like one of those pie display case thingys spinning around at boo-fays. These ovens had thin stone cooking surfaces and made better pizza than the conveyers, but not nearly good pizza as th

Re: [MBZ] What was the last real Mercedes?

2007-11-12 Thread Rusty Cullens
1991 560SEL without a doubt. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: "Robert Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] What was the last real Merced

Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq

2007-11-12 Thread Robert Rentfro
When we had our pizza place (behind our sub shop) near Bradley University in the very early '80s, we had a smallish locally made oven. I can't for the life of me remember the name of the maker. It had a nice stone baking surface and made nice pies. Jeez I wish I could remember what it was... Bob R

Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq

2007-11-12 Thread Gary Hurst
if you ever ate real pizza, you wouldn't be talking this way On Nov 12, 2007 9:09 AM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > guess there is a lesson here, but dont' take it so far as to be > > ordering dominoes pizza in new york city > > Domino's

Re: [MBZ] MOD: **REAR** headrests in an SD...ideas?

2007-11-12 Thread Sunil Hari
why didn't you just take the entire back? On Nov 12, 2007 9:47 AM, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SCORE! Pick N Pull had an '87 500SEL on Saturday. I got to it first :-). > Got the head rests, the leather grommets and the brackets. This should be a > cake walk...although I am sca

Re: [MBZ] What was the last real Mercedes?

2007-11-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Those are VERY nice. I have been on the lookout to find one, just dont see the 91's that often. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Rusty Cullens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007

Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices

2007-11-12 Thread Rich Thomas
You have the answer right there -- more popular so must be taxed more. The socialist governments have never seen a tax they don't like, especially on things their people like. --R Christopher McCann wrote: > In Germany, sales taxes on diesel cars are higher than gas cars...THAT I > cannot com

Re: [MBZ] What was the last real Mercedes?

2007-11-12 Thread Gary Hurst
don't you drive some sort of C class car newer than 1991 or something? i heard a rumor like that somewhere. can't be true though as that isn't a real mercedes. On Nov 12, 2007 10:08 AM, Rusty Cullens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1991 560SEL without a doubt. > > > Rusty Cullens > BuyMBparts, I

Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices

2007-11-12 Thread archer
- Original Message - From: "Christopher McCann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > the main problem we are seeing right now is the impact of China's Central > Bank which on Nov 6 announced that it will begin diversifying its reserve > currencies away from weak ones like the dollar towards strong curr

Re: [MBZ] MOD: **REAR** headrests in an SD...ideas?

2007-11-12 Thread Christopher McCann
it's black leather and mine is maroon. Eventually, I may have the leather on the headrests re-done in maroon. AND, the leather was coming apart at the seams on the seat and my rear seat is in perfect condition - leather already repaired professionally (very nice job). AND this one was a recliner

Re: [MBZ] MOD: **REAR** headrests in an SD...ideas?

2007-11-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Man you missed a perfect chance to add reclining back seat while you were at it. Very easy to transplant the stuff over. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Christopher McCann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" S

Re: [MBZ] MOD: **REAR** headrests in an SD...ideas?

2007-11-12 Thread Jim Cathey
> repaired professionally (very nice job). AND this one was a recliner > and mine is not, so I am not certain that they are identical. They are not the same. I presume one could transplant the whole works, however, but that wouldn't turn out to be a small job in the end. -- Jim __

Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices

2007-11-12 Thread Gary Hurst
never did much of that to begin with, but i am using the water heater. it's really too hard for me to function without hot water or i'd shut that down as well. On Nov 12, 2007 9:06 AM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > i'm not gonna light

Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices

2007-11-12 Thread Gary Hurst
i recall there was some story once about this war being about cheap fuel prices. like just about every story about this war, that didn't really work out. On Nov 12, 2007 10:22 AM, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Christopher McCann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >

Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices

2007-11-12 Thread Tom Hargrave
War tends to heat up the economy & make it grow because now we need to replace of the neat toys that went "boom". In other words, war tends to be anti-inflationary. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq (plus a little college football)

2007-11-12 Thread Donald Snook
John Robbins wrote: "The local one in Starkville does pretty good." I didn't realize you lived in Starkville. I guess that makes sense since your email address says Miss State. They had a great game against Alabama. My father was an adjunct professor for Ole Miss and my brother gradu

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Luther
Did I need to loan you that too?? Geeze. On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:42:43 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well got that rebuilt IP installed, and it fired right up. It is > however missing and I have too much smoke (blue/grey) Was idling > perfect with the old pump and no smo

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
you have the timing tool? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Luther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP > Did I need to loan you that too??

Re: [MBZ] John Robbins no longer owns the fastest 2.5 turbo I have seen

2007-11-12 Thread Luther
You're welcome. On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:02:14 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At the IowaQ, I noticed that John Robbins 2.5 was quicker than any other > 2.5 I have driven. Well, after getting the rebuilt IP back in my 92, I > can say mine is faster than his, or so it seems.

Re: [MBZ] John Robbins no longer owns the fastest 2.5 turbo I haveseen

2007-11-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
thanks. Those folks do good work. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Luther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] John Robbins no longer owns the fastest 2.

Re: [MBZ] Soy Oil

2007-11-12 Thread Luther
It'll run fine, or so your ear will think. I don't recommend running any mix of vegetable oil in a diesel. There are no long term studies (100,000mi or more) that give veg oil a green light. All the studies have shown injector coking and buildup on the rings and prechambers. There is a good

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Luther
Electronic. On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:58:19 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you have the timing tool? > > --- > Kaleb C. Striplin > Cox Auto Trader > 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor > > - Original Message - > From: "Luther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discu

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Where did yuo get that? I need to get one of those --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Luther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP > Electro

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Luther
My source is sealed, but it was a great deal. On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:18:29 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Where did yuo get that? I need to get one of those > > --- > Kaleb C. Striplin > Cox Auto Trader > 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor > > - Original Message - >

Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices

2007-11-12 Thread Rich Thomas
Too much sharing of information. --R Gary Hurst wrote: > never did much of that to begin with, but i am using the water heater. it's > really too hard for me to function without hot water or i'd shut that down > as well. > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com F

Re: [MBZ] What was the last real Mercedes?

2007-11-12 Thread Robert Rentfro
I bet you'll have to pay more than $500 for one... Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 8:10 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What was the last real Mercedes? T

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Well if anybody finds one for sale, let me know. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Luther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP > My source

Re: [MBZ] Soy Oil

2007-11-12 Thread dave walton
Meanwhile, the rest of us are paying at least $3 less per gallon of fuel. My 94S350 has over 50,000mi on 100% WVO in the summer and thinned WVO in the winter. Wait another few years and I'll have one "100,000mi or more" statistic for you. -Dave Walton On 11/12/07, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

Re: [MBZ] Parts Quality

2007-11-12 Thread Rusty Cullens
Most of the parts that World Pac sells are oem, some are not. The APA and First Equipment Quality are made in China and I don't care for them. Most everything else is all the same and the price differences are due to the exchange rate upon date of receipt. If anyone has questions, you can always

Re: [MBZ] ML optimism

2007-11-12 Thread Rich Thomas
That could be, I'll have to ask him next time I see him. --R Allan Streib wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >> He is reading the instant mileage readout on the dash which can show >> numbers like this when on cruise on level ground. My departed C320's >> readout has shown 32mpg at 60mph o

Re: [MBZ] Water heating, was Diesel/gas prices

2007-11-12 Thread Mitch Haley
Gary Hurst wrote: > > never did much of that to begin with, but i am using the water heater. it's > really too hard for me to function without hot water or i'd shut that down > as well. You're in Georgia. Use a batch solar heater upstream of the gas heater. http://www.motherearthnews.com/Gree

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread John Robbins
Luther wrote: > My source is sealed, but it was a great deal. Is it the fully electronic dynamic (with engine running) tester? Does your source have any more? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.co

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
I need to get one badly, as many of these thigns as I work on, I do for sure. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "John Robbins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:50 AM Subject: R

Re: [MBZ] MOD: **REAR** headrests in an SD...ideas?

2007-11-12 Thread Christopher McCann
H... 1) crap (how I really feel) 2) more to break (excuse to make me feel better)...could have transplanted my nice maroon leather onto it. Chris "Kaleb C. Striplin, work" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Man you missed a perfect chance to add reclining back seat while you were at it. Very ea

Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq (plus a little college football)

2007-11-12 Thread John Robbins
Donald Snook wrote: > I didn't realize you lived in Starkville. I guess that makes sense > since your email address says Miss State. They had a great game > against Alabama. My father was an adjunct professor for Ole Miss > and my brother graduated from their. > > I am a Missouri Tiger fan

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Luther
Was a one time/used sale from a list member. Included the other tools needed to do the OM60x head R&R. On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:50:25 -0600, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Luther wrote: >> My source is sealed, but it was a great deal. > > Is it the fully electronic dynamic (with engin

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread John Robbins
Luther wrote: > Was a one time/used sale from a list member. Included the other > tools needed to do the OM60x head R&R. Oh well... How many other tools did you need to do the head job? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: ht

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread John Robbins
Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: > I need to get one badly, as many of these thigns as I work on, I do for > sure. You can get the RIV tool from Rusty (the one where you time it with the engine off). It was less than $300 I think. It is really expensive for what it is though... John

Re: [MBZ] FW: aerodiesel New Subaru Boxer Diesel Engine

2007-11-12 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Nov 11, 2007 2:23 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Tom Hargrave wrote: > > > > Wonder if it would fit a BMW boxer motorcycle? > > I saw one in a 70's motocycle magazine, either Cycle or Cycle Guide, > with a 4 cyl air cooled Porsche (914) engine in it. Weight made it > more of a

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
I have 3 60x head jobs to do in the near future. I need the tool, bad. I need to find one. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Luther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:01 AM S

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Whats the other one with the engine running? I have not looked at/paid attention to the tools used on the 60x engines too much. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "John Robbins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List"

Re: [MBZ] Soy Oil

2007-11-12 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Nov 11, 2007 3:14 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > obviously. > > and i had spare fuel filters but nowhere was there a screwdriver to be > found. had to get towed to the nearest ace hardware to buy a basic philips > screwdriver > And not only did you not have a tool kit in the car,

Re: [MBZ] Parts Quality

2007-11-12 Thread Allan Streib
"Rusty Cullens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Most of the parts that World Pac sells are oem, some are not. The > APA and First Equipment Quality are made in China and I don't care > for them. Most everything else is all the same and the price > differences are due to the exchange rate upon date o

Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices

2007-11-12 Thread Christopher McCann
We already have govt devaluation of the dollar. The money supply is growing at 20% annually. If the economy is not growing at 20% then there is too much money chasing too few goods and services and there WILL be inflation. We have gotten away with this in the past as the dollar is the world rese

Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices

2007-11-12 Thread Christopher McCann
only if the government is spending money it actually has. We are borrowing money from the Fed, which is created by fiat - increasing the money supply. SO MUCH SO that the Fed quit publishing the statistics on the M3 money supply as the growth in it is so high. Chris Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROT

Re: [MBZ] ML optimism

2007-11-12 Thread John Freer
There is no instant mpg readout on the MB system. There are 2 average mpg readouts...one is for the mpg since you reset the odo and the other is for the particular trip you are currently running. Your neighbor has an extremely exagerated vivid imagination. My 320 CDI will indicate a high average

Re: [MBZ] Parts Quality

2007-11-12 Thread Rusty Cullens
I would have never sent them to you, the warehouse made a mistake. I will send the proper ones out today. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: "Allan Streib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, Nov

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Luther
Maybe we can work out a long-term loan... On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:05:16 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have 3 60x head jobs to do in the near future. I need the tool, bad. I > need to find one. > > --- > Kaleb C. Striplin > Cox Auto Trader > 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervi

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread John Robbins
Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: > Whats the other one with the engine running? I have not looked at/paid > attention to the tools used on the 60x engines too much. There is a little tong on a flywheel internal to the IP. There is a little port on the side of the IP and when the tong is in the c

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Luther
Head bolt tool, pre-chamber knockout tool, and timing chain slide rail puller. Luther On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:03:21 -0600, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Luther wrote: >> Was a one time/used sale from a list member. Included the other >> tools needed to do the OM60x head R&R. > > Oh w

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Any of them I have seen for sale is the 2 led deal. I have the locking tool for R/R of the ip, but thats it. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "John Robbins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, Novemb

Re: [MBZ] Parts Quality

2007-11-12 Thread Allan Streib
"Rusty Cullens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I would have never sent them to you, the warehouse made a mistake. I > will send the proper ones out today. Wow, now that's taking care of the customer! I can send the others back, they are not installed yet. Let me know where. Allan -- 1983 300D

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread John Robbins
Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: > Any of them I have seen for sale is the 2 led deal. Rusty has those... PN: 617-589-08-21-00 IIRC it was close to $300. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used

Re: [MBZ] Parts Quality

2007-11-12 Thread Rusty Cullens
I have already issued a UPS call tag for them. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: "Allan Streib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parts Quality >

Re: [MBZ] Quality

2007-11-12 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Nov 10, 2007 5:14 PM, Rick Knoble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Other than automobiles, is anything manufactured in the US anymore? http://www.madeinusa.org/ http://www.usstuff.com/ http://www.stillmadeinusa.com/ http://buyamerican.com/ Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. __

Re: [MBZ] Quality

2007-11-12 Thread Tom Hargrave
The manufacturing base has been growing in the USA and we build quite a bit of high end goods here. The products are the moving off shore are high volume, low cost and / or consumer goods. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 11/12/07 11:3

Re: [MBZ] What was the last real Mercedes?

2007-11-12 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Nov 11, 2007 10:38 PM, Peter Merle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Complexity is a lot > higher in w124 with electric cooloant pump, electronc idel speed , > electroic climate control etc etc > But all that stuff is optional, at least on the diesels. Try disconnecting the EDS, for example (pull t

Re: [MBZ] MOD: **REAR** headrests in an SD...ideas?

2007-11-12 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:47:06 -0800 (PST) Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SCORE! Pick N Pull had an '87 500SEL on Saturday. I got to it first :-). Congratulations! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http

Re: [MBZ] John Robbins no longer owns the fastest 2.5 turbo I haveseen

2007-11-12 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:02:35 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin, work" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > thanks. Those folks do good work. For those of us who have forgotten, who are those folks? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: h

Re: [MBZ] FW: aerodiesel New Subaru Boxer Diesel Engine

2007-11-12 Thread Kevin
On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 09:05:42AM -0800, Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On Nov 11, 2007 2:23 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tom Hargrave wrote: > > > > > > Wonder if it would fit a BMW boxer motorcycle? > > > > I saw one in a 70's motocycle magazine, either Cycle or Cycle Guide, > > wit

[MBZ] 140 chassis, early vs late [was: What was the last real Mercedes?]

2007-11-12 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Nov 10, 2007 9:18 PM, tom savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If anything, I think they got better. Later models don't have wiring > harness problems, and have much more reliable (if perhaps not "fixed") > evaporator cores and M104 head gaskets. Simpler climate control > controls, side-impact

Re: [MBZ] FW: aerodiesel New Subaru Boxer Diesel Engine

2007-11-12 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Nov 12, 2007 9:50 AM, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess people haven't heard of boss hosses - chevy eight cylinder powered > bikes. There was also that weird one that chrysler made with the viper > engine, but I think that was more novelty than anything. I've seen boss > hosses driven a

Re: [MBZ] MOD: **REAR** headrests in an SD...ideas?

2007-11-12 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:59:20 -0800 (PST) Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > H... 1) crap (how I really feel) 2) more to break (excuse to make me > feel better)...could have transplanted my nice maroon leather onto it. Well, go back to the P&P and see if it's still there! Craig

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Mitch Haley
John Robbins wrote: > > The dynamic tool puts a sensor in that port instead of the "feelers" > (similar to an ABS sensor). You also have to hook up the tach signal, > etc. This not only checks the basic timing, but can check the timing > advance device (since you can change the RPMs etc). I'v

Re: [MBZ] What was the last real Mercedes?

2007-11-12 Thread Christopher McCann
What is the EDS? Chris Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Nov 11, 2007 10:38 PM, Peter Merle wrote: > Complexity is a lot > higher in w124 with electric cooloant pump, electronc idel speed , > electroic climate control etc etc > But all that stuff is optional, at least on the die

Re: [MBZ] Parts Quality

2007-11-12 Thread Robert Rentfro
Rusty's da bomb. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:34 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parts Quality I have already issued a UPS call tag for them. Rusty Cullens Bu

Re: [MBZ] FW: aerodiesel New Subaru Boxer Diesel Engine

2007-11-12 Thread Allan Streib
"Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Huh. Is the engine mounted transverse like a V-twin, or > longitudinally with a shaft drive? If the latter, what happens when > you hit the throttle from a stop? Wouldn't all the torque tend to > pull the back wheel right out from under you sidew

Re: [MBZ] MOD: **REAR** headrests in an SD...ideas?

2007-11-12 Thread Christopher McCann
It was all still there yesterday (all meaning seat parts). I'm gonna percolate on that today...reclining rear seat would be sweetare we all sure that the seats would fit? Chris Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:59:20 -0800 (PST) Christopher McCann wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Mitch Haley
Hey Kaleb, the price is lower than I remember on the DTI timing unit. Call them up and ask if it works with MBZ. Only around $500 with 5mm and 6mm pickups. http://tinytach.com/design/timing.php The Ferret 765 that I have lists for $239. Before Ferret became a part of GXT they would sell refurbs

[MBZ] 560SEL...Why '91?

2007-11-12 Thread Robert Rentfro
What makes a '91 560SEL the desirable one? Bob R. '77 300D 184K Need something for this space ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change d

Re: [MBZ] 560SEL...Why '91?

2007-11-12 Thread Rusty Cullens
It was the best one they built, all the kinks were worked out. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: "Robert Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 1:21 PM Subject: [MBZ] 560SE

[MBZ] Auto Transmission Fragen

2007-11-12 Thread Robert Rentfro
So.just had my transmission serviced .everything looked good with pan off. Old fluid (M1 ATF) looked and smelled good. Changed filter, drained torque converter and topped 'er off with fresh M1 ATF. Anywho.now when I come to a stop after having driven a spell (like my 35 mile freeway trip to work)

Re: [MBZ] FW: aerodiesel New Subaru Boxer Diesel Engine

2007-11-12 Thread PM7088
Several "Boss Hosses" around here. They often show up at cruise nights. One of the fellows has a nitrous bottle on his. Now, that must be a ride Pete -- Original message -- From: "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Nov 12, 2007 9:50 AM, Kevin wrote: > >

Re: [MBZ] 560SEL...Why '91?

2007-11-12 Thread Steve MacSween
Ah, so you're saying that Mercedes is like every other carmaker. It takes them 11 years of production to work all the bugs out. Then they immediately discontinue the model. :-0 Mac on 11/12/07 13:28, Rusty Cullens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It was the best one they built, all the kinks wer

Re: [MBZ] Auto Transmission Fragen

2007-11-12 Thread Mitch Haley
Robert Rentfro wrote: > Anywho.now when I come to a stop after having driven a spell (like my 35 > mile freeway trip to work) the transmission will not return to first gear > unless I increase the engine rpm while sitting still at the light. > '77 300D 184K auto It sits there in a higher gear, o

[MBZ] Kinda O.T.: When Do Parts Become Hard to Get?

2007-11-12 Thread Robert Rentfro
One of the discussions while passing the time at the old nuke plant the other night was at what point do OEM parts become hard to get? Since I seem to be the reason all old car discussions occur at work, we were talking about how relatively easy it is to get 123 parts. How it's getting more difficu

Re: [MBZ] FW: aerodiesel New Subaru Boxer Diesel Engine

2007-11-12 Thread Mitch Haley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Several "Boss Hosses" around here. They often show up at cruise nights. Shouldn't a "Boss" have a Ford engine? Anybody else remember the 302 Z-28 Camaros and Boss 302 Mustangs in Trans-Am racing? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.

Re: [MBZ] Auto Transmission Fragen

2007-11-12 Thread Robert Rentfro
You're rightit doesn't go to first. It sits in neutral unless I raise the rpm. Levels are SAT. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] Kinda O.T.: When Do Parts Become Hard to Get?

2007-11-12 Thread Mitch Haley
Robert Rentfro wrote: > > One of the discussions while passing the time at the old nuke plant the > other night was at what point do OEM parts become hard to get? Seems like 7 years after the last car using the part was made for USA makers. MBZ seems to retire a model to "classic" status after 20

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