Re: [MBZ] the Republican Candidate for VP

2008-09-05 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Hi.. Just wondering if there are any women on the Okiebenz MBZ list? If so, like to hear from you!!! I'm a man and find this attention to physical attributes very demeaning to this woman who is a candidate for the Vice Presidency. Just my opinion, Chuck Phoenix AZ

Re: [MBZ] Harleys - was - the hottest VP

2008-09-05 Thread Redghost
Depends on how you choose to sit upon your stead. The fairing will do wonders for diverting air as long as you do your part. Riding in a sit up and beg position just makes you a huge impediment to forward travel with a small fairing. My 81 R65 had a bikini fairing that did a fine job as

Re: [MBZ] the hottest VP

2008-09-05 Thread Redghost
Last year or so. Not her husband, but the suits for Alyeska and pipelines. Upped the royalties paid so that her citizens got a $1200 boost to payments each over and above the $2500 they already get. Hardship pay for having to live there. clay On 5 Sep 2008, at 16:22, Rolf wrote: > Uh, w

Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to

2008-09-05 Thread Redghost
The really disgusting thing is that state schools are always grubbing for cash. They get so much of the budget and then (here in WA it is biennial) as the end of the funding period arrives there is a mad scramble to use up all the funds so that they can keep asking for larger sums. Were t

Re: [MBZ] the hottest VP

2008-09-05 Thread TimothyPilgrim
If you're looking for leg-shots of Palin, I think this should satisfy ya, although it's from 1982: http://www.serendipit-e.com/blog/images/sarahheathstatebb1982_1.jpg Our Governor General up here was pretty hot at one time too. http://www.tamark.ca/students/wp-images/jean_michaelle050803.jpg Ti

Re: [MBZ] GM version

2008-09-05 Thread Mitch Haley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Such a design seems peculiar. How fast is throttle response if you suddenly > need power and how jerky it? Electric injectors, I assume? You hit the throttle, it goes, just like any car without a locking converter. When the load is in the range where the computer locks

Re: [MBZ] the hottest VP

2008-09-05 Thread Luther
NO!! That's the lure of her athletic body! At her age, she MUST keep that athletic tone to be hot! GRR, padding is NOT HOT :D Luther Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Found these fairly quickly: >> http://www.spock.co

Re: [MBZ] 450SL on the cheap?

2008-09-05 Thread Jim Cathey
> Looking at this car. Any comments on the drivetrain? Known issues? It > clearly needs alot of work but could be fun weekend car for me and the > wife. Drivetrain fine. Evil Chrysler ACC from Hell not fine. Special areas are paint, rust, soft top condition, and upholstery condition. Everything

Re: [MBZ] GM version

2008-09-05 Thread RELNGSON
> ..Perhaps I worded it poorly. If I lift the throttle on my Olds at > 60mph/2000rpm, > the torque converter unlocks, and the engine drops to idle speed, with the > fuel > meter ticking along at 0.40 gallons per hour... > Such a design seems peculiar. How fast is throttle response if you suddenl

Re: [MBZ] KE cutoff?

2008-09-05 Thread Peter Frederick
Fuel is controlled by differential pressure between the two chambers in the fuel distributor. The ElectroHydraulic Actuator (EHA) is used to electronically control the pressure difference via a variable orifice and tapered needle, I think -- so when no fuel is called for on coast (closed t

Re: [MBZ] KE cutoff?

2008-09-05 Thread RELNGSON
> ...I think the KE system uses a cut off switch as well... > Since it does not have electric injectors, please explain what cuts off the fuel. RLE > > ** Pt...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com

Re: [MBZ] more hill descents

2008-09-05 Thread RELNGSON
> ..Cars with electronic engine deactivation coast, engine off, whenever > possible;.. > Name one. Off meaning engine not rotating. > > > ..and such  programming is likely to become mandatory. > Nominally it's illegal (in some places), but the law is an ass: anyone > who drives a stick shift co

Re: [MBZ] BARS LEAKS HEAD GASKET SEALANT?

2008-09-05 Thread Curt Raymond
I've had Bars Leaks radiator repair in 2 vehicles now, my '88 GMC S15 and my '81 300TD. Both were disasters. In both cases the thermostat got stuck shut and caused an overheat. On the GMC it was no big deal on the 300TD I'm reasonably sure it blew the headgasket. It took FOREVER to clear the coo

Re: [MBZ] Oil

2008-09-05 Thread Peter Frederick
AND took the money anyway! Peter On Sep 5, 2008, at 8:35 PM, Rolf wrote: > Thats right. She backed the road to no where until Congress cut the > funding. > > -Rolf > > OK Don wrote: >> ??? The bridge to nowhere was renamed a water taxi, and went ahead. >> Killing it was grandstanding. >> >> >

Re: [MBZ] Oil

2008-09-05 Thread Peter Frederick
No, it's the rather nice income every resident of Alaska gets in "tax rebates" from the mountain of cash generated by the oil drilling. Listening to an Alaska whine about socialism makes me laugh so hard I pee my pants. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Oil

2008-09-05 Thread Peter Frederick
Alaska has so much money the surplus is distributed to the residents. No way to spend it all, even building bridges to nowhere! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAI

Re: [MBZ] the hottest VP

2008-09-05 Thread Wonko the Sane
HEY HEY HEY -- respect your elders, young man. On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The pills Hendrik, the pills. Your reply doesn't make any sense that I can > find > > -Curt > > Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 10:10:04 +0930 > From: Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [MBZ] Oil

2008-09-05 Thread Rolf
Thats right. She backed the road to no where until Congress cut the funding. -Rolf OK Don wrote: > ??? The bridge to nowhere was renamed a water taxi, and went ahead. > Killing it was grandstanding. > > > >> But you've got to admire a politician who resists the urge to spend all that >> mone

Re: [MBZ] Oil

2008-09-05 Thread Rolf
*blink* Have you seen her pad? Looks a lot nicer than mine. Maybe realestate is really that much cheaper down there. -Rolf Mitch Haley wrote: > Peter Frederick wrote: > >> And don't forget the royalty payments to RESIDENTS of Alaska. She >> gets a pretty penny every year, with what, six in

Re: [MBZ] BARS LEAKS HEAD GASKET SEALANT?

2008-09-05 Thread OK Don
Nope - I think it was Snook. I put Bars Leak in a radiator in the late '60's, and will never do such again. Fix it right -- >> I dimly remember someone--was it OK Don? >> --saying they'd used it or something similar on a 300SEL for many >> tens of thousands of miles and it worked, but I'd love co

Re: [MBZ] drag coefficents

2008-09-05 Thread Rolf
Clean means fast. -Rolf Hendrik & Fay wrote: > Also be making sure to wash car, as dirt tends to rob another .3% of > fuel economy. > > Hendrik > with dirty cars and dirty mind > > Tom Hargrave wrote: > >> Here's a great article on drag coefficents. >> >> http://autospeed.com/cms/A_108675/art

Re: [MBZ] Oil

2008-09-05 Thread OK Don
??? The bridge to nowhere was renamed a water taxi, and went ahead. Killing it was grandstanding. > But you've got to admire a politician who resists the urge to spend all that > money. > > Mitch. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -

Re: [MBZ] BARS LEAKS HEAD GASKET SEALANT?

2008-09-05 Thread Peter Frederick
Not a snowball's chance in the bad place. The gasket is falling apart, you need to get a new one. This isn't a particularly bad job -- but you need to replace the valve guide seals when you have the head off. That will cure your oil consumption along with a new camshaft seal and front cove

Re: [MBZ] Oil

2008-09-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Peter Frederick wrote: > And don't forget the royalty payments to RESIDENTS of Alaska. She > gets a pretty penny every year, with what, six in the family? > > Nothing like backing a policy that puts $ in your own pocket! But you've got to admire a politician who resists the urge to spend all t

Re: [MBZ] the hottest VP

2008-09-05 Thread Curt Raymond
The pills Hendrik, the pills. Your reply doesn't make any sense that I can find -Curt Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 10:10:04 +0930 From: Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] the hottest VP To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],  Mercedes Discussion List     Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-

Re: [MBZ] Oil

2008-09-05 Thread Peter Frederick
And don't forget the royalty payments to RESIDENTS of Alaska. She gets a pretty penny every year, with what, six in the family? Nothing like backing a policy that puts $ in your own pocket! Peter On Sep 5, 2008, at 8:10 PM, OK Don wrote: > Stare them down??? The tax revenue for AK is the on

[MBZ] BARS LEAKS HEAD GASKET SEALANT?

2008-09-05 Thread Dan Weeks
Folks: My 300TE has a leaking head gasket. You can smell coolant out the pipe, see a bit of steam on startup, and the #1 plug got so fouled with other-than-oil calcified coolant crud that it stopped firing the other day. While I was buying a new plug, I noticed a sale on Bars Leaks brand

Re: [MBZ] the hottest VP

2008-09-05 Thread Hendrik & Fay
No I don't think have read that one but that may well be where that phrase comes from. Hendrik with no motorbikes but a loving family who give him enough grief, daughter is closing in on 13 years and I may have to borrow a shotty off one of you gun nuts Mitch Haley wrote: > Hendrik & Fay wrote

Re: [MBZ] fuel cutoff

2008-09-05 Thread Mitch Haley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> ...But most cars coast enough farther in neutral to make up for the 1/3 to >> 1/2 gph that you burn idling in neutral. And not all cars have enough engine >> braking to activate the fuel cutout... >> > Engine braking has nothing to do with it. It's rpm from the cranksh

Re: [MBZ] Oil

2008-09-05 Thread OK Don
Stare them down??? The tax revenue for AK is the only reason she wants to drill in ANWR. On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 7:00 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> ..If she can stare down the rapacious vultures in the AK oil industry, >> it will be a cold day in hell when some slav or oriental will get her >

Re: [MBZ] Harleys - was - the hottest VP

2008-09-05 Thread Curt Raymond
Interesting, the fairing on my CB900f makes a big difference... http://bp0.blogger.com/_xBz_KsI0DbY/SJO3hZLuuAI/ADU/Y2BRAocLOdM/S220/CB900fsmall.jpg -Curt --- On Fri, 9/5/08, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Harleys - was - the hottes

[MBZ] NEED 124 INTERIOR BITS, DARK BLUE

2008-09-05 Thread Dan Weeks
Folks: I need, in dark blue, for an '88 300TE: --The plastic, screw-in mounts that the visor hangs from--both the one near the A-pillar and the one near the inside rear view mirror. Other colors would be OK too--I guess I can always paint 'em. --An intact front passenger armrest, same color,

Re: [MBZ] Harleys - was - the hottest VP

2008-09-05 Thread OK Don
My '84 R100 had a fairing similar to that, at speeds up to 100, it was totally worthless. I think the "Cafe' Racer" fairing is only good for parking in front of a cafe'. > What model Harley is that? It seems like there are loads of them around here > all of a sudden. I think they're wicked ugly..

Re: [MBZ] the hottest VP

2008-09-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Hendrik & Fay wrote: > I was expecting a short short mini > skirt and a cut off top with the "I suck start Harleys" slogan. I recall Ed Hertfelder writing about women who ride on the back of Harleys wearing quick release halters and looking for signs that say "show your tits". He mentioned that

Re: [MBZ] coasting

2008-09-05 Thread Hendrik & Fay
I think the KE system uses a cut off switch as well. Hendrik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But you referred to such behavior as "coasting" when what is happening >> is in fact engine braking. Not the same thing at all; in fact, >> mutually exclusive phenomena. Did you forget your

Re: [MBZ] Hood pad adhesive

2008-09-05 Thread OK Don
Well, it was rotting and falling apart! We just replaced it last month. There were areas of glue that had to be scrapped off, but not too much. Didn't see a problem with the adhesive, just the pad it's self. > This is exactly the process I used for the hood pad on my 90 300D. So, ask OK > Don if

Re: [MBZ] Toyota/Honda

2008-09-05 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Yeah well, if Japan had some high speed autobahns then things may have been different. Hendrik with a boring Japanese ute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > >> ...Soichiro would probably think so... >> >> > I agree completely. Both firms have taught some hard lessons to every other > car manufa

Re: [MBZ] 450SL on the cheap?

2008-09-05 Thread OK Don
See http://home.hiwaay.net/~gbf/107/rt.html for info on the variations. The '80 has the most anemic of the 450 engines. My experience was that every piece of rubber in the intake system was hard and leaking. There are a LOT of rubber pieces in there! The engine runs MUCH better after ALL of them a

Re: [MBZ] the hottest VP

2008-09-05 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Guess you got a bit of experience looking for pictures on the internet, although I am a bit disappointed, I was expecting a short short mini skirt and a cut off top with the "I suck start Harleys" slogan. Hendrik who should really be going for that cold shower Mitch Haley wrote: > Found these f

Re: [MBZ] the hottest VP

2008-09-05 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Yeah, the rep girls can go over to Iraq and give the boys a bit of a show, to sort of thank them for getting butchered and scarred for life. Nothing wrong with a bit of right wing T & A. Hendrik Rich Thomas wrote: > She was showing a little décolletage last night and it sure looked > better tha

Re: [MBZ] drag coefficents

2008-09-05 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Also be making sure to wash car, as dirt tends to rob another .3% of fuel economy. Hendrik with dirty cars and dirty mind Tom Hargrave wrote: > Here's a great article on drag coefficents. > > http://autospeed.com/cms/A_108675/article.html > > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > >

Re: [MBZ] the hottest VP

2008-09-05 Thread Hendrik & Fay
How old are you? I would have thought that the dreams of a certain nature tend to stop once more mature years approach. Hendrik who don't have those sort of dreams much anymore.pity Curt Raymond wrote: > Sorry, searching for that again would take time away from my 240D hood > project ;)

Re: [MBZ] 124 Mileage was Re: OT volvo

2008-09-05 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Good for you but don't forget the hat, you must have the hat on whilst cruising in the brick down to the Ikea store. Hendrik who must admit that he has visited Ikea once or twice but just to buy Swedish meatballs..honest Tyler Backman wrote: > I don't think anybody makes a car that comp

Re: [MBZ] the hottest VP

2008-09-05 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Nah, I'll just wait till she and Macca fail to win and then she will be offered a squillion to pose for playboy. Hendrik who is off for a cold cold shower Jerry Herrman wrote: > All this talk about "The Hottest VP Candidate" prompts me to list two > complaints. > > 1. It has taken

Re: [MBZ] drag coefficents

2008-09-05 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Next time you're out and about cruising down to the mall, stick your hand out the window, first hold it up and then point it into the wind, then come back and tell us the results. Obviously the faster you go the more aerodynamics come into play but a car that can displace the air easier than ano

Re: [MBZ] coasting

2008-09-05 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 4:48 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nobody is talking about rolling along in neutral which of course would mean, > engine idling, and for what reason would anyone do that? It's pointless and > illegal, BTW. Cars with electronic engine deactivation coast, engine off, whene

Re: [MBZ] fuel cutoff

2008-09-05 Thread RELNGSON
> ...But most cars coast enough farther in neutral to make up for the 1/3 to > 1/2 gph that you burn idling in neutral. And not all cars have enough engine > braking to activate the fuel cutout... > Engine braking has nothing to do with it. It's rpm from the crankshaft sensor plus a closed thro

Re: [MBZ] 124 Mileage was Re: OT volvo

2008-09-05 Thread Hendrik & Fay
I don't mind riding a bike when it is more or less flat but hills suck, although I like going down them. Hendrik who does not wear tight lycra shorts or other stuff that makes a rider look like he/she just competed in the tour de France Rich Thomas wrote: > Come on over H&F, I'll find you a gir

Re: [MBZ] Oil

2008-09-05 Thread RELNGSON
> ..If she can stare down the rapacious vultures in the AK oil industry,  > it will be a cold day in hell when some slav or oriental will get her  > trembling.. > I don't think Exxon-Mobil has "The Bomb" as yet nor a million man army. RLE > > ** Pt...Have you heard the news?

Re: [MBZ] drag

2008-09-05 Thread RELNGSON
> ...I still think that frontal area is not nearly so important as other > things. You said "for a particular drivetrain efficiency" and I agree with > that... > Drag coefficients are measured in the wind tunnel, usually using a scale model. It's just one factor when talking about fuel economy.

Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to

2008-09-05 Thread Rich Thomas
I went to the 'Toot some years ago for a year, got one semester's tuition covered, got a loan for another, then was paying by the week to finish my thesis (that lit a fire under my aft section!), and it wasn't that bad at that time. Paid it off in a couple of years after I got a real job, thou

Re: [MBZ] coasting

2008-09-05 Thread RELNGSON
> >>But you referred to such behavior as "coasting" when what is happening > is in fact engine braking.  Not the same thing at all; in fact, > mutually exclusive phenomena.  Did you forget your Metamucil today, > Roger?.. > I wish you would make some effort to read the posts before you get all sn

Re: [MBZ] the hottest VP

2008-09-05 Thread Rolf
Uh, when exactly did she do that? Or are you referring to her husband who works in oil? -Rolf Redghost wrote: > If she can stare down the rapacious vultures in the AK oil industry, > it will be a cold day in hell when some slav or oriental will get her > trembling > > clay > > On 5 Sep 2008,

Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to

2008-09-05 Thread LarryT
Bill wrote:<> Not sure when you did that, but I wonder if it's at all possibloe for a student to work part time & pay for school while attending classes like you did?I know it wouldn;t work at one of those $50k colleges, but are there *any* colleges or universities that offer a good educat

Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to

2008-09-05 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote: > Hmmm another question - I assume colleges & universities are free to donate > as much of that 250mil to political parties of their choice? In addition to the millions spent on sports coaches, my local 'land grant' public university (another MSU) spends a boatload of cash on lobb

Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to

2008-09-05 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote: > I like your description - steps 1 thru 5 are spot on. There's one more step > that comes next though. The parents (yes, both) are held upside down by > their ankles and are shaken vigorously so any change is shaken loose. Step > 6 is repeated once per billing period. I should

Re: [MBZ] coasting

2008-09-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: > The Top Gear guys said (don't remember if they got it from a study or what) > that if you're going to be stopping its better to coast in gear in a newer > car than in neutral. The theory being if you're in neutral the engine needs > to provide fuel to maintain idle where if

Re: [MBZ] the hottest VP

2008-09-05 Thread Redghost
If she can stare down the rapacious vultures in the AK oil industry, it will be a cold day in hell when some slav or oriental will get her trembling clay On 5 Sep 2008, at 14:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I seriously doubt that if the time should come that McCain dies in > office and > no

Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to

2008-09-05 Thread LarryT
I like your description - steps 1 thru 5 are spot on. There's one more step that comes next though. The parents (yes, both) are held upside down by their ankles and are shaken vigorously so any change is shaken loose. Step 6 is repeated once per billing period. - Original Message -

Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad,

2008-09-05 Thread LarryT
Mission accomplished! If I'd just said triplets you'd still be holding onto the ceiling with your fingernails, but now, after coming back from having 9 to *only* 3 crumb-snatchers/rug rats/etc, you'll look at the sun rise a little differently, the roses will smell a little bit better, coff

Re: [MBZ] coasting

2008-09-05 Thread Curt Raymond
The Top Gear guys said (don't remember if they got it from a study or what) that if you're going to be stopping its better to coast in gear in a newer car than in neutral. The theory being if you're in neutral the engine needs to provide fuel to maintain idle where if you're coasting in gear the

Re: [MBZ] drag coefficents

2008-09-05 Thread Mitch Haley
R A Bennell wrote: > I have a difficult time believing that the Tucker from the > 40's is the equal of some of the current vehicles. I'd be impressed if it could match a Citroen ID/DS series, but 3/4 the CD of a Citroen isn't credible to me. ___ http://www.ok

Re: [MBZ] drag coefficents

2008-09-05 Thread Curt Raymond
Your F150 likely makes a bunch more power than the Sub did. Small block motors are now regularly pumping out more power than big blocks of 10 years ago. Theres greater efficiency there obviously since they get the same or slightly better economy. The current Dakota makes some insanely useless amo

Re: [MBZ] Toyota/Honda

2008-09-05 Thread Mitch Haley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > most of the Asian labels are just another medium size silver > sedan with gray cloth seats and totally uninteresting. Generic. I don't find old Toyotas interesting (except for the 2000GT which I've never seen in real life), but the Honda 600, S800, first generation Civ

Re: [MBZ] the hottest VP

2008-09-05 Thread Rolf
I distinctly try to avoid remembering that. Oh WAIT. This isn't the one where he is a rockette http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/N/q/1/rudy_giuliani_rockette.jpg Mitch Haley wrote: > Rolf wrote: > >> http://www.kissmybigbluebutt.com/sarahp.jpg < that has to be a chop. >> >> "fetching

Re: [MBZ] Harleys - was - the hottest VP

2008-09-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: > To take the conversation totally sideways... > > What model Harley is that? Back in the old days, if it had a fairing and saddlebags, it was an Electra Glide. No idea what it means now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see offi

Re: [MBZ] the hottest VP

2008-09-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Rolf wrote: > http://www.kissmybigbluebutt.com/sarahp.jpg < that has to be a chop. > > "fetching pantsuits" has had me giggling for 15minutes now. It's a shame > Fred didn't make it, his wife is hotter than all of the current choices. Don't forget Rudy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_90nRRoXK8

Re: [MBZ] coasting

2008-09-05 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 2:28 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Rolf rolfs: >> >> How do you get that? Do they shut off their engines? Gassers still have >> to maintain stoich @ idle, consuming more fuel then diesels >> > Ah, but they are not idling. The engines are turning because they are

Re: [MBZ] coasting

2008-09-05 Thread RELNGSON
> Rolf rolfs: > > How do you get that? Do they shut off their engines? Gassers still have > to maintain stoich @ idle, consuming more fuel then diesels > Ah, but they are not idling. The engines are turning because they are driven by the wheels turning. And when your foot is off the gas

Re: [MBZ] coasting

2008-09-05 Thread Tyler Backman
I think the "late model" thing is a misnomer. We're not talking about some high tech fuel saving feature, but normal EFI behavior. I've never heard about an electric FI system that didn't shut off the fuel injectors when the engine speed was too high and the throttle closed. I know the LH-je

Re: [MBZ] the hottest VP

2008-09-05 Thread RELNGSON
I seriously doubt that if the time should come that McCain dies in office and now-President Sarah is called upon to sit across the table from Putin or whoever is running China in an important negotiation, neither of them will give damn how "hot" she is or how many children she has produced or wh

Re: [MBZ] coasting

2008-09-05 Thread Rolf
I was under the assumption that they coasted in neutral at idle. Never knew about the fuel injectors shutting off all together. -Rolf Tyler Backman wrote: > If they're in gear with the throttle closed and the drivetrain is > pushing the engine above idle, the fuel injectors shut off until the

Re: [MBZ] 911 rebuild

2008-09-05 Thread RELNGSON
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Broken cam belt. Or maybe the balance shaft belt broke and took out the > cam > > belt which is not exactly unknown. > > > > $2200 and this was 15 years ago. > > Was it an air cooled engine?  A co-worker recently rebuilt a 1970 air > cooled 911.  It was VERY complic

Re: [MBZ] coasting

2008-09-05 Thread Tyler Backman
If they're in gear with the throttle closed and the drivetrain is pushing the engine above idle, the fuel injectors shut off until the engine speed returns to idle. You'd probably get better efficiency coasting in neutral with the engine idling anyway, which would avoid engine braking. Sin

Re: [MBZ] Carfax Request

2008-09-05 Thread John Freer
Just like MB did in the late 90's. Stupid. On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Make: Volkswagen >> Model: Passat GLS > > I was looking at those Passats with the 1.8 liter turbo

Re: [MBZ] coasting

2008-09-05 Thread Rolf
? How do you get that? Do they shut off their engines? Gassers still have to maintain stoich @ idle, consuming more fuel then diesels. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> ..This is because gassers have to maintain stoich where diesels are quite >> happy at 100:1 air/fuel ratios. When you are coasting in a

Re: [MBZ] drag coefficents

2008-09-05 Thread Rich Thomas
Drag = 1/2 Cd rho V^^2 Drag (air resistance) is one half of the coefficient of drag times density of air (or whatever fluid you are in) times the velocity squared --R Fmiser wrote: > It seems than at Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:42:23 -0500, R wrote: > > >> I still think that frontal area is not nearl

Re: [MBZ] Harleys - was - the hottest VP

2008-09-05 Thread Curt Raymond
Now that I think about it I guess I can see it. Its like the rolled top of the fairing on my Honda, helps shoot air over your head. Has anyone ridden one of those Harleys? I wonder how visibility is with that... Well shield for lack of a better term. -Curt --- On Fri, 9/5/08, Rolf <[EMAIL PROT

Re: [MBZ] coasting

2008-09-05 Thread RELNGSON
> ..This is because gassers have to maintain stoich where diesels are quite > happy at 100:1 air/fuel ratios. When you are coasting in a diesel its > like free mileage... > And when you are coasting in a late model gasser, no fuel is flowing so it's "like free mileage." RLE > > ***

Re: [MBZ] Toyota/Honda

2008-09-05 Thread RELNGSON
> > ...Soichiro would probably think so... > I agree completely. Both firms have taught some hard lessons to every other car manufacturer on the planet. But to me as a dedicated (and long suffering) German car driver, most of the Asian labels are just another medium size silver sedan with gra

Re: [MBZ] Harleys - was - the hottest VP

2008-09-05 Thread Rolf
The stubby windscreens? They do a great job at highway speeds without ruining the wind in hair affect @ 35mph. -Rolf Curt Raymond wrote: > To take the conversation totally sideways... > > What model Harley is that? It seems like there are loads of them around here > all of a sudden. I think the

Re: [MBZ] drag coefficents

2008-09-05 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:42:23 -0500, R wrote: > I still think that frontal area is not nearly so important as > other things. You said "for a particular drivetrain > efficiency" and I agree with that. Frontal area time Cd equals air resistance. So just looking at Cd numbers is half th

Re: [MBZ] drag coefficents

2008-09-05 Thread R A Bennell
I still think that frontal area is not nearly so important as other things. You said "for a particular drivetrain efficiency" and I agree with that. The drag co-efficient being lower probably helps with many other issues too, like reduced noise and improved ability to shed rain etc., but I reall

Re: [MBZ] Harleys - was - the hottest VP

2008-09-05 Thread Curt Raymond
To take the conversation totally sideways... What model Harley is that? It seems like there are loads of them around here all of a sudden. I think they're wicked ugly... It also seems like the fairing is pretty useless unless it somehow magically deflects wind away from your face in a way I can

[MBZ] GPS

2008-09-05 Thread Wilton Strickland
Go to garmin.com and read about 'em. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/list

Re: [MBZ] drag coefficents

2008-09-05 Thread Fmiser
> > Hummer H2-.57 > > Citroen DS---.36 > > BMW Z4 coupe--.35 > > Volvo 940---.35 > > MB 2.3-16 valve.32 > > MB W203 coupe.29 > > Porsche 997.28 > > MB W203 sedan.27 > > MB W204 sedan.27 > > MB W211 sedan.27 > > Nissan GT-R-.27 > > Tuck

Re: [MBZ] Carfax Request

2008-09-05 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Make: Volkswagen > Model: Passat GLS I was looking at those Passats with the 1.8 liter turbo four for a while. I got scared off by the sludge issue. Apparently the engine really needs frequent oil changes, preferably sy

Re: [MBZ] the hottest VP

2008-09-05 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Found these fairly quickly: > http://www.spock.com/Sarah-Palin/pictures?utm_source=SEM She needs to eat a few more mooseburgers for my taste, or go on the all-donut diet like McCain, but she's definitely comely. Alex _

Re: [MBZ] the hottest VP

2008-09-05 Thread Rolf
http://www.kissmybigbluebutt.com/sarahp.jpg < that has to be a chop. "fetching pantsuits" has had me giggling for 15minutes now. It's a shame Fred didn't make it, his wife is hotter than all of the current choices. http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2007/08/04/PH2007080401561.jp

Re: [MBZ] Carfax Request

2008-09-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Report Run Date: 2008-09-05 14:17:09.744 EDT The vehicle identification number you submitted has been analyzed and summary information on your car is shown below. VIN:WVWCE63B05E157309 Year: 2005 Make: Volkswagen Model: Passat GLS Style/Body: Wagon 4D Class: Mid Range Car

Re: [MBZ] the hottest VP

2008-09-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Found these fairly quickly: http://www.spock.com/Sarah-Palin/pictures?utm_source=SEM Vogue cover pic: http://www.spock.com/picture_frame/58e4133w6b7ae4a752 Harley & short skirt: http://www.spock.com/picture_frame/58e40dbwa38fc2f012 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] drag coefficents

2008-09-05 Thread Wilton Strickland
I saw a Tucker in 1948 when I was 14. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] drag coefficents > Jim Cathey wrote: > > > There was also a movie made about the Tuckers.

Re: [MBZ] drag coefficents

2008-09-05 Thread Rick Knoble
> There was also a movie made about the Tuckers. My grandfather was the advertising manager for Preston Tucker and the Tucker Torpedo. http://notorc.blogspot.com/2006/11/preston-tucker-story-1-ordeal-by-trialhtml http://www.fye.com/Tucker--The-Man-and-His-Dream-Front-Page_stcVVproductId1376365

Re: [MBZ] Coat #7 take 2

2008-09-05 Thread Curt Raymond
Tarps for the ground? Heck I got a paved floor in my garage. Apparently they paved over sand or maybe jell-o becuase its not even sort of like considering being smooth I just let the paint fall. When it hardens the floor is actually IMPROVED. ;) Everybody should be so lucky! -Curt --- On

Re: [MBZ] School taxes

2008-09-05 Thread Wonko the Sane
http://www.kcci.com/news/17399648/detail.html Unique approach. > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts

Re: [MBZ] Coat #7 take 2

2008-09-05 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 5:23 AM, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Besides not all of us have a garage bay we could dedicate to painting in. > I've only got a 1 car >garage, when I actually paint the car that work will > all be done outside. Yeah, the overhead is the killer for a proper s

[MBZ] Interesting Card

2008-09-05 Thread Rich Thomas
So in the mail today came a very nice card, printed on heavy stock in a nice envelope, with a very nice Benz logo, from the formerly-local Benz dealer, congratulating me on my 1 year anniversary of owning a 300SD (son's car, not sure how they got my name on it). I think that is very cool. --R

Re: [MBZ] College Costs

2008-09-05 Thread Redghost
I love Gump. She was built right and still retains that quality feel even if she is a rolling turd in the eyes of a few people I live with. Compared to the E300, she is stone age and simple. That w124 though is starting to show her age and has some creaks and age issues that I would have

Re: [MBZ] Hood pad adhesive

2008-09-05 Thread Donald Snook
Peter wrote: "Prop the broom just below the center of the hood and carefully peel the top half back and let it hang down. Make sure the bottom hasn't moved, then apply three LIGHT coats of adhesive to the pad and hood. You want barely complete coverage on the hood and a very light coat on the p

Re: [MBZ] the hottest VP

2008-09-05 Thread Rich Thomas
She was showing a little décolletage last night and it sure looked better than whatever Hillary has under those fetching pantsuits. And Mrs. McCain ain't half bad either. I think overall the Repub women are better looking than the Dem women (who seem to be sourpusses most of the time), and as

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