Re: [MBZ] OT: mail clients

2012-07-08 Thread Brian Toscano
Webmail is a Web based mail program. If the user interface uses IMAP to connect to the server, it is completely hidden from the user. IMAP and POP are RFC defined protocols that allow mail programs to exchange messages with a remote server. IMAP offers many more capabilities than POP for managin

[MBZ] Poli-ticks

2012-07-08 Thread Jim Cathey
...you wouldn't happen to be interested in running for president. ...common sense like that [would] be a great asset! Anyone capable of doing a good job is not even remotely qualified to _get_ that job, and it's a thankless task to begin with. Also, as has been said before, anyone who wants suc

Re: [MBZ] Xenons/LEDs

2012-07-08 Thread Fmiser
> Jim Cathey wrote: > The brightness arms race bothers me. > > There are _other_ things that need to be seen while driving > than _your_ stinkin' lamps! Yeah! You tell 'em Jim!! Say, you wouldn't happen to be interested in running for president. With common sense like that you'd be a great

Re: [MBZ] OT: mail clients

2012-07-08 Thread Fmiser
> Brian Toscano wrote: > Just wondering how many people prefer to use a Webmail program > like Gmail or Yahoo vs using IMAP to download mail into a > program that runs on a local computer, like Apples Mail > program? Webmail is a form of IMAP, where the messages reside on the server. Without ext

Re: [MBZ] Xenons/LEDs

2012-07-08 Thread Jim Cathey
I didn't ask about strobing for Xenons. I asked about "problems" because some people complain about oncoming Xenons being too bright and I wonder if the persons complaining about LED strobing are the same people. The brightness arms race bothers me. The trend towards brighter point sources bo

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: prescription costs negy5aby

2012-07-08 Thread G Mann
Hahahaha... so what's the co-pay for the "smokes, hookers, meth twinkie plan". How do you get to be an insurance agent for the Darwinian Agency? Seems payment collection could pose a problem. ;)) On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 6:27 PM, clay monroe wrote: > H. > > I think Darwinian health care

[MBZ] OT: mail clients

2012-07-08 Thread Brian Toscano
Just wondering how many people prefer to use a Webmail program like Gmail or Yahoo vs using IMAP to download mail into a program that runs on a local computer, like Apples Mail program? I've used Gmail on the web since it came out, largely because it offered threading that made mailing lists ea

Re: [MBZ] LED/Xenon headlights

2012-07-08 Thread RELNGSON
> a much simpler solution than that.  H4 LED lamp.  Same as halogen > bulb used in the euros.. > H4 is a twin filament headlight bulb, high and low. I have a pair of them (100/160W) in my Porsche's Z-Beams. What LED bulb are you referring to? RLE ___ htt

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-08 Thread clay monroe
And you could conscript the upper level kidlets to intern there to get practice in medical dental office magic. Good for school credit, but probably an insurance nightmare for the district. On Jul 8, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > I would like to see our school district go to a distri

Re: [MBZ] 190D is now on ebay

2012-07-08 Thread Rick Knoble
I thought you gave up on eBay. Rick Sent from my iPhone On Jul 8, 2012, at 6:14 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > bid to win > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150852942106 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used

Re: [MBZ] Xenons/LEDs

2012-07-08 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jul 8, 2012, at 5:33 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: > I didn't ask about strobing for Xenons. I asked about "problems" because > some people complain about oncoming Xenons being too bright and I wonder if > the persons complaining about LED strobing are the same people. Possibly. LED strobing

Re: [MBZ] 1984 190D for sale

2012-07-08 Thread Joe Sasser
Kaleb, are you not getting ANY of the e-mails I send you anymore? On Jul 8, 2012, at 8:08 PM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: > Send Mercedes mailing list submissions to > mercedes@okiebenz.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.okiebenz

Re: [MBZ] OT: rust converter

2012-07-08 Thread clay monroe
POR 15. Three step process that is just as you outline. Wire brush or sand to bare metal and thorough rust removal. Use the marine cleaner they sell. Spray on and agitate any surface dirt that comes off. Rinse it off. Then you use the etching spray as the second part of the process. It ne

Re: [MBZ] G, GLK, GL. ML...

2012-07-08 Thread OK Don
I use my ML for dragging things around the place - like tree trunks (as well as ordinary driving). The granny gear and all wheel drive does a great job of moving heavy things. On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > I do. > > --R > > > On 7/8/1

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: prescription costs negy5aby

2012-07-08 Thread clay monroe
H. I think Darwinian health care is what is needed. If you make the choices that lead to poor health, you get to be on Darwin Insurance. You must pay an amount equal to the money spent on those activities that are impacting your health. Smokes, slurpees, twinkies, candy bars, hookers, m

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-08 Thread Dan Penoff
I would like to see our school district go to a district-owned clinic, as another district in the area has done. One of the biggest complaints among the instructional staff is having to take a day off if they have a doctor's appointment, since it's nearly impossible to get an appointment at a t

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-08 Thread clay monroe
Concierge care. I use that. Beats the heck out of all the crap you deal with at standard medico visit. Get all the time you need to explore all issues. MD is more relaxed too. Office staff reduced to the two receptionist, instead of a cadre of file clerks and insurance slaves. Easier for

Re: [MBZ] dirty oils done dirt cheap done M1

2012-07-08 Thread clay monroe
M1 did wonders in Gump for 8 years, then the engine suffered metal death on the rocker arms. Metal fatigue at 300kmile On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:36 PM, Hendrik & Fay wrote: > Well, I reckon you would be foolish to waste $$$'s on M1 in an engine > that is old, sure if you rebuild the engine and

Re: [MBZ] dirty oil flush

2012-07-08 Thread clay monroe
I am not flushing the thing. I am going to keep putting fresh oil in, until what comes out looks good longer and less like it was run hard in a diesel engine. On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Hendrik & Fay wrote: > Might pay to pull the rocker covers off to see what the go is. > If you're game yo

Re: [MBZ] LED/Xenon headlights?

2012-07-08 Thread clay monroe
Roger, a much simpler solution than that. H4 LED lamp. Same as halogen bulb used in the euros On Jul 7, 2012, at 4:13 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: >> I was thinking about swapping in LED to the headlamps. Pretty cost >> ineffective if that application would not work. The glare shield in

Re: [MBZ] LED lights idiotic?

2012-07-08 Thread clay monroe
Would something like this resolve the issue? http://www.ebay.com/itm/LED-bulb-turn-signal-hazard-flasher-relay-load-resistor-/360409867522?hash=item53ea1a2502&item=360409867522&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr#ht_5953wt_907 If so, where am I supposed to look to find the one on a 1974

[MBZ] 190D is now on ebay

2012-07-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
bid to win http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150852942106 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options

Re: [MBZ] 109D turd

2012-07-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
That is what color the window sticker says it is. On 7/8/2012 6:01 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Kaleb you dumb okie, its MOBIL 1. Mobile is a city in Alabama And Biscayne Blue is an old Chevrolet color. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

Re: [MBZ] G, GLK, GL. ML...

2012-07-08 Thread Rich Thomas
I do. --R On 7/8/12 6:44 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: Nobody needs any of these things for runs to Starbuck's or the mall. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ T

Re: [MBZ] 109D turd

2012-07-08 Thread RELNGSON
> ...Kaleb you dumb okie, its MOBIL 1. Mobile is a city in Alabama > And Biscayne Blue is an old Chevrolet color. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsu

Re: [MBZ] POS limo

2012-07-08 Thread RELNGSON
> ...Do you think the Martha treatment could help that car?.. > What that gem needs is one pass from a Leopard tank. RLE > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

[MBZ] 190D video

2012-07-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ems_xl8tOkg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/list

Re: [MBZ] OT: rust converter

2012-07-08 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
In my opinion, rust converters don't work. Remove as much rust as possible then apply POR-15. Be sure to follow prep steps which include Marine clean and the metal prep. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 8, 2012, at 5:00 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Dan Penoff writes: What's wrong with using POR-15 as

Re: [MBZ] G, GLK, GL. ML...

2012-07-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The GL could almost replace my truck for towing purposes. On 7/8/2012 5:44 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: What exactly is the difference between a GL and ML, they look the same to me. Is a GL halfway between a G and ML? A G is an overpriced antique, dating back decades and is no pleasure to d

Re: [MBZ] G, GLK, GL. ML...

2012-07-08 Thread RELNGSON
> What exactly is the difference between a GL and ML, they look the > same > to me. Is a GL halfway between a G and ML? > A G is an overpriced antique, dating back decades and is no pleasure to drive. They are mostly just status symbols. The GLK is the smallest of the lot but isn't cheap an

Re: [MBZ] Xenons/LEDs

2012-07-08 Thread RELNGSON
> ...Strobing effects from xenons? Nope. However, if those are the ones > that have a color change effect when viewed off axis, that does irk me... > I didn't ask about strobing for Xenons. I asked about "problems" because some people complain about oncoming Xenons being too bright and I wonder

Re: [MBZ] 1984 190D for sale

2012-07-08 Thread WILTON
'Fraid I'm gonna hafta let it go, anyway. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 190D for sale Just now put it out there. On 7/8/2012 5:04 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: For me? Too

Re: [MBZ] 1984 190D for sale

2012-07-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Just now put it out there. On 7/8/2012 5:04 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: For me? Too cheap for me? Never too cheap. Why, do you have people lining up at Okie Acres to look at it. Bob R On Jul 8, 2012 2:36 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: Maybe I have it priced too cheap? On 7/8/2012 3:27 PM, Curt Ra

Re: [MBZ] 1984 190D for sale

2012-07-08 Thread Bob Rentfro
For me? Too cheap for me? Never too cheap. Why, do you have people lining up at Okie Acres to look at it. Bob R On Jul 8, 2012 2:36 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > Maybe I have it priced too cheap? > > On 7/8/2012 3:27 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > >> I was thinking along the same lines. I'm also r

Re: [MBZ] 1984 190D for sale

2012-07-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Maybe I have it priced too cheap? On 7/8/2012 3:27 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I was thinking along the same lines. I'm also remembering in 2005 when I bought my '84 190D which wasn't in as good a shape as this car for $2950 and thought I got a great deal. Kaleb you dumb okie, its MOBIL 1. Mobile

Re: [MBZ] Oh my

2012-07-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Speaking of scrap crush value on cars is WAY down. It was up to 220 a ton, I waited a week, took a 116 down and it was down to 170 a ton, guy said it was probably going to drop again. Damn. On 7/8/2012 2:20 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Martha is not a miracle worker. That thing is ready for the re

Re: [MBZ] OT: rust converter

2012-07-08 Thread Allan Streib
Dan Penoff writes: > What's wrong with using POR-15 as-is? Hm well maybe nothing. I assumed it would be better to treat the rust first. AAllan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search l

[MBZ] Fuel tank SKT.

2012-07-08 Thread Frederick Moir
Alles. I know that this info should be at my fingertips, but, CRS has, um. What size is the fuel outlet/filter holder in the bottom of the tank of an '89 260E? 40mm? 46mm? Please reply in words of one, or perhaps two, sillybubbles.  TIA Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. _

[MBZ] Ice cold AC

2012-07-08 Thread Curt Raymond
Its in the 80s here in New England so I've finally gotten the chance to run the AC in my cars. For the first time in my life the whole fleet (2003 Ford Ranger, '84 190D, '78 240D) have ICE COLD AC. The 240D needed a little pick-me-up but it wasn't that warm when my Indy charged it and it only t

Re: [MBZ] 1984 190D for sale

2012-07-08 Thread Curt Raymond
I was thinking along the same lines. I'm also remembering in 2005 when I bought my '84 190D which wasn't in as good a shape as this car for $2950 and thought I got a great deal. Kaleb you dumb okie, its MOBIL 1. Mobile is a city in Alabama. -Curt Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2012 14:49:45 -0400 From: Ric

Re: [MBZ] Oh my

2012-07-08 Thread WILTON
Buff right out. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oh my Do you think the Martha treatment could help that car? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 8, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Dan Penoff wr

Re: [MBZ] Oh my

2012-07-08 Thread Dan Penoff
Martha is not a miracle worker. That thing is ready for the recycler and should be crushed. The really scary part is the Minnie Winnie that's in the background. Dan On Jul 8, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > Do you think the Martha treatment could help that car? > > Sent from my

Re: [MBZ] Oh my

2012-07-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Do you think the Martha treatment could help that car? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 8, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > After seeing that driver's seat I want to gouge my eyes out. > > Dan > > > On Jul 8, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > >> >> http://austin.craigslist.org/ct

Re: [MBZ] Oh my

2012-07-08 Thread Dan Penoff
After seeing that driver's seat I want to gouge my eyes out. Dan On Jul 8, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > > http://austin.craigslist.org/cto/3126182556.html > > -- > Sent from Craigslist Pro for iPhone and iPod > > > Sent from my iPhone > __

Re: [MBZ] OT: rust converter

2012-07-08 Thread Dan Penoff
What's wrong with using POR-15 as-is? I never used anything in between cleaning up the rusted areas and applying POR-15. Dan On Jul 8, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Allan Streib wrote: > I recall someone posting here about a liquid rust converter that worked > reasonably well. I have some undercarriage

Re: [MBZ] Oh my

2012-07-08 Thread Rich Thomas
So when you headed down there? --R On 7/8/12 2:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://austin.craigslist.org/cto/3126182556.html -- Sent from Craigslist Pro for iPhone and iPod Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www

[MBZ] Oh my

2012-07-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://austin.craigslist.org/cto/3126182556.html -- Sent from Craigslist Pro for iPhone and iPod Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubsc

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: prescription costs negy5aby

2012-07-08 Thread Rich Thomas
And I bet she doused it with "coal all" (the all-purpose disinfectant, floor polish, degreaser, and lamp light giver!) to clean it up good! --R On 7/8/12 1:50 PM, G Mann wrote: When I was age 4 a dog bit my ear off... my Grandmother sewed it back on, with nothing but grit and skill [she was a

Re: [MBZ] 1984 190D for sale

2012-07-08 Thread Rich Thomas
2 problems I see, the AC is only " cold AC" not BLOWS ICE COLD, and it only gets 36mpg, not 40mpg on veggie oil. And is Mobile 1 really the best oil? Other than that it seems a reasonable deal. I'll give you $500 for it but only if you wax it first. --R On 7/8/12 1:50 PM, Kaleb C. Stripli

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-08 Thread Allan Streib
Dan Penoff writes: > People often confuse the Endowment with the company - two totally > different entities. Still works to their benefit though, eh? -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search

[MBZ] OT: rust converter

2012-07-08 Thread Allan Streib
I recall someone posting here about a liquid rust converter that worked reasonably well. I have some undercarriage rust on my Nissan truck that I want to try to stop or at least slow down. My plan is to wire brush, treat, then maybe POR-15 paint over it. Thoughts? I'd prefer something I can spr

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: prescription costs negy5aby

2012-07-08 Thread OK Don
Most of the hospitals here have bought out the individual practices, so the Docs work for the medical/industrial complexes. There are very few private practices around here anymore. From the patients point of view, the practices are run better now - the wait to see the Doc is considerably less, bil

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: prescription costs negy5aby

2012-07-08 Thread Allan Streib
G Mann writes: > I offer the idea that we educate children to care for themselves and others > with basic first aid and perhaps advanced care. When I was age 4 a dog bit > my ear off... my Grandmother sewed it back on, with nothing but grit and > skill [she was a great seamstress btw.] She had r

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-08 Thread Dan Penoff
Eli Lilly is a huge benefactor to the community in general, but that is not the company, it's the Lilly family (Lilly Endowment). My brother went to school with one of the Lilly Endowment honchos - Clay Robbins. This guy wields more power in this town that you could believe, since the Endowmen

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: prescription costs negy5aby

2012-07-08 Thread Allan Streib
Rich Thomas writes: > Put a PA-in-a-box in every Walmart or CVS and you could cut costs > tremendously while triaging a lot of mundane sorts of things, and give > the gomers some place to go. Already happening. The CVS here has a "instant clinic" with a PA on staff. Pretty standard hours, no e

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-08 Thread Allan Streib
Dan Penoff writes: > When I was growing up, and I kid you not, easily half of the adults on > my block were ELC employees. It was known that if you could get on at > ELC or Allison (transmission and jet engine manufacturer) you were > pretty well set for life. Lilly does give a lot in the form o

Re: [MBZ] 2005 E 320 CID

2012-07-08 Thread Charles Scruggs
I have a 2006 and it is a great car. Performance is very good, have mb Tex, like it too, mileage on highway is about 35 mpg (really) and have checked multiple times. Have changed alternator, brakes, tires, and oil. Oh yes, had to put new AC compressor on it too. Now has about 100k miles, runs gr

Re: [MBZ] 1984 190D for sale

2012-07-08 Thread WILTON
There's that color, again, Rich. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" ; "Banned List" Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 1:50 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1984 190D for sale I have a car for sale at the the moment. http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/31

Re: [MBZ] 1984 190D for sale

2012-07-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Hahaha no Sent from my iPhone On Jul 8, 2012, at 12:53 PM, "WILTON" wrote: > 'Looks good; $500? ;<) > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" ; "Banned List" > > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 1:50 PM > Subject: [MBZ] 1984 190D fo

Re: [MBZ] 1984 190D for sale

2012-07-08 Thread WILTON
'Looks good; $500? ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" ; "Banned List" Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 1:50 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1984 190D for sale I have a car for sale at the the moment. http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/3126309068

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: prescription costs negy5aby

2012-07-08 Thread G Mann
Thank you, all points well made. The "health care system" has gotten out of hand. There are minds great enough to find viable solutions, where are they? Why are they not being heard? An elephant is, after all, a mouse built by a government program I offer the idea that we educate children t

[MBZ] 1984 190D for sale

2012-07-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have a car for sale at the the moment. http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/3126309068.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery opti

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs negy5aby

2012-07-08 Thread Rich Thomas
My cousin was an OB/GYN. She had 3 or 4 people working for her, was paying over $100k/yr in malpractice insurance, paying for her employees' health insurance, all that stuff, rent, etc. At some point she sat down and determined she was making LESS money every year than the person in her offic

[MBZ] Fwd: Re: prescription costs negy5aby

2012-07-08 Thread Rich Thomas
Original Message Subject:Re: [MBZ] prescription costs Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2012 11:02:41 -0400 From: Rich Thomas To: Mercedes Discussion List The military will pick up the tab if the student agrees to give them some number of years as a military doc, and I th

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-08 Thread Larry T
Thank you for those 2 posts! depending on specialty some doctors pay more for malpractice than other expenses combined. they work in a system that not only allows zero mistakes and accidents but with a legal system that uses junk science to dupe a poorly educated population, many of which see

Re: [MBZ] Another LED myth?

2012-07-08 Thread Dave Walton
Correct. White LEDs are usually blue LEDs with a patch of phosphor on top. If you look into a clear white LED (while off) you will see it. It converts some of the blue light to other wavelengths so the overall color appears white. The efficiency of the phosphor is currently the limiting factor a

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-08 Thread Curt Raymond
There was a thing on NPR about that the other day... -Curt Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2012 06:59:38 -0400 From: Max Dillon To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] prescription costs Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 A doctor (whole practice actually, 4 or 5 doctors) we know

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-08 Thread Dan Penoff
No. When I was growing up, and I kid you not, easily half of the adults on my block were ELC employees. It was known that if you could get on at ELC or Allison (transmission and jet engine manufacturer) you were pretty well set for life. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 7, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Max D

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-08 Thread Dan Penoff
Sounds like a collective. They are gaining popularity in places like Portland and Seattle. You pay a fixed annual fee for general medical care, and they also provide some medications at no or reduced costs, too. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 8, 2012, at 6:59 AM, Max Dillon wrote: > A doctor (

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-08 Thread Dan Penoff
Good points. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 8, 2012, at 12:38 AM, G Mann wrote: > Question: Wouldn't the population be better served if the government > offered to carry the education cost for anyone who wanted to become a > doctor? > > I note that the much argued "obama care" generates some 20

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-08 Thread Dan Penoff
When we were between insurers, the wife was able to negotiate her care with her rheumatism doctor. She gets shots to keep her hip pain to a minimum, and he was willing to work out a cash deal with her that was less expensive than when we had insurance. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 8, 2012, at

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-08 Thread Dan Penoff
There were two different meds he attempted to qualify for, one was made by Eli Lilly, I don't recall the other. Both programs pretty well eliminated you if you had any income of significance and no dependents. In his case, he would have had a better chance for eligibility had he been living und

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-08 Thread Max Dillon
A doctor (whole practice actually, 4 or 5 doctors) we know started this deal where a family pays them $1500 annually and all the doctors visits are covered. Almost like they are forming their own insurance company. Allan Streib wrote: > >There's a doctor in town here who doesn't take medicare,