Re: [MBZ] I smoked lots of pot, crack, and snorted blow before posting ads

2016-09-20 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Duh!Floater!!! Didja look where it is from? Mahrishi International University fo rich wacko kids.Om Da beach boys were among the first students. Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes September 20, 2016 at 8:44 PM This guy has several

Re: [MBZ] very rare 603 engine

2016-09-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
It's a 103 Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 20, 2016, at 9:18 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > Looky mo lika M103 vergasser. > >> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >> September 20, 2016 at 8:41 PM >>

Re: [MBZ] very rare 603 engine

2016-09-20 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Looky mo lika M103 vergasser. Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes September 20, 2016 at 8:41 PM

Re: [MBZ] very rare 603 engine

2016-09-20 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
Looks sorta like an M103 or M102? On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 9:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Stored so carefully! > I wonder what he's actually trying to sell. I will ask... > -Curt > > From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > To:

Re: [MBZ] very rare 603 engine

2016-09-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
It has the rare spark plug feature Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 20, 2016, at 9:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > Stored so carefully! > I wonder what he's actually trying to sell. I will ask... > -Curt > > From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] very rare 603 engine

2016-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Stored so carefully! I wonder what he's actually trying to sell. I will ask... -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 9:41 PM

Re: [MBZ] I smoked lots of pot, crack, and snorted blow before posting ads

2016-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Thats gotta be quite a book! -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List ; davesl...@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 9:44 PM Subject: [MBZ] I smoked lots

Re: [MBZ] Cold oil

2016-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
If it plays funny on your computer turn down the resolution, theres a little gear thing at the bottom. I played it for Angie and our desktop computer got all weird, it showed only the first shot in slow motion, really weird. -Curt From: Dwight Giles via Mercedes

[MBZ] A car for poos

2016-09-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
1996 Mercedes-Benz S420 Sedan One Owner 43,000 actual miles http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/5778183948.html via cPro for Craigslist iOS: http://tinyurl.com/cPro-iDevice Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android Sent from my iPhone ___

Re: [MBZ] Strange effect

2016-09-20 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
I think I paid $4.99 for four bulbs at Lowes, and the spotlight was about $9 or so? On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > So how much are LED light bulbs? I need to start switching over I guess. > > > On 9/20/2016 8:44 PM, M. Mitchell

Re: [MBZ] Strange effect

2016-09-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
So how much are LED light bulbs? I need to start switching over I guess. On 9/20/2016 8:44 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote: One thing I like about the LED bulbs: No heat. My bedroom/office used to get rather stuffy with three 60 watt incandescent bulbs in the ceiling fan fixture.

Re: [MBZ] Strange effect

2016-09-20 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
One thing I like about the LED bulbs: No heat. My bedroom/office used to get rather stuffy with three 60 watt incandescent bulbs in the ceiling fan fixture. With three LED bulbs, things stay nice and cool... In my workshop, I installed one of those y-shaped two bulb fixtures in the bottom of

[MBZ] I smoked lots of pot, crack, and snorted blow before posting ads

2016-09-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
This guy has several similar ads http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Mercedes-Benz-190D-Shop-Service-Repair-Manual-2-5L-Turbo-Diesel-602-Engine-/371742362626?hash=item568d924c02:g:cj8AAOSwPCVX4VqT=mtr ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Cold oil

2016-09-20 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Cool. I will study this,expanded oil thread. You are a mad scientist Curt. Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 1990 300D Wickford RI On Sep 20, 2016 6:05 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" wrote: > As promised: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t-dOOnRwgUI froze some oil > and

[MBZ] very rare 603 engine

2016-09-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1987-MERCEDES-BENZ-300D-TURBO-OM603-603-96-DIESEL-ENGINE-RWD-AUTOMATIC-AT-COMBO-/262634688207?fits=Make%3AMercedes-Benz=item3d263f4ecf:g:i9UAAOSwmfhX4WHC=mtr ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Ping

2016-09-20 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Thanks, your reply is the only indication that my emails are getting through. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On September 20, 2016 9:28:35 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: >Pong > >On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 8:12 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <

Re: [MBZ] Ping

2016-09-20 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Pong On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 8:12 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD > '95 E300 > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To

[MBZ] Ping

2016-09-20 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
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[MBZ] Ping

2016-09-20 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] Strange effect

2016-09-20 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Good point, have you made up a handy chart of incandescent watts vs lumens? ;) -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On September 20, 2016 4:59:37 PM EDT, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > >What any of us care about is lumens and/or watts.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Golf paint

2016-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
That'll take a LNG time and a distinct raising of my standards. Actually I painted a Nulite lantern (made circa 1925) that looks pretty good. Detroit Diesel alpine green engine paint. -Curt From: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Test

2016-09-20 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Correct, and I suspect the failure is with Kaleb's ISP... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On September 20, 2016 5:00:26 PM EDT, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >Fail > > From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > To:

Re: [MBZ] Test

2016-09-20 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Received. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On September 20, 2016 4:10:26 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > > >Sent from my iPhone > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives

[MBZ] Cold oil

2016-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
As promised: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t-dOOnRwgUI froze some oil and dipped matchsticks into it. Like it says in the description, I'm no oil expert... I'm also no DSLR expert, learning to pre-focus the camera and then get into the shoot is taking some practice. Some of the shots in this

Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry

2016-09-20 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Blues Brothers. Can Calloway at the beginning of the show at the Palace Hotel ballroom. Elwood: What kind of music do you usually have here? Claire: Oh, we got both kinds. We got country *and* western. Sent from my iPad > On Sep 20, 2016, at 5:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] Costco light fixtures Was:Strange effect

2016-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Does anybody else watch Big Clive on Youtube? I find his adventures with LED fixtures mildly entertaining. -Curt From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Floyd Thursby Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 1:35 PM

Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry

2016-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I once knew a hooker named Minnie Mazola From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Floyd Thursby Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry That reminds me of a girlfr never

Re: [MBZ] Strange effect

2016-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Good point. I wonder how many lumen that bulb is. More than 800 I bet, I think its a 10w bulb. The bulbs I've been buying for the house are 800 lumen which is a pretty good number. The ones I bought recently for the fan are, I think, 300. I think the 40w equivalent lamps I've bought are 400 or

Re: [MBZ] Test

2016-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Fail From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 4:10 PM Subject: [MBZ] Test Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Strange effect

2016-09-20 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> I had a 100w equivalent CFL > 75w equivalent LED RANT Those number are useless. And pointless. What any of us care about is lumens and/or watts. Since there is no standard for "equivalent" I see really goofy numbers like 500 l listed as a "60W equivalent" - and the 60 W incandescent

[MBZ] Test

2016-09-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry

2016-09-20 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
I "caught" it. W - Original Message - From: "Dan--- via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "d...@penoff.com" Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry I wondered if anyone

Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry

2016-09-20 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
That reminds me of a girlfr never mind. --FT On 9/20/16 12:56 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: Donald Snook wrote: I am just impressed that you used the word "lubricious" ! It's no wonder you're impressed. Here's the primary definition: lu·bri·cious [lo͞oˈbriSHəs] ADJECTIVE

Re: [MBZ] Costco light fixtures Was:Strange effect

2016-09-20 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
No I mean the fluor drama with having to deal with ballasts and tubes in the slots just right and having to touch them or jiggle them or whatever. Then they get to where they are flickering which is annoying as hell, or have this sorta wave traveling through them. With LEDs it seems the

Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry

2016-09-20 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes
Curt, yes I know how fast the new oil turns black. I should clarify that when I remove the filter, it is really cruddy looking. Again, I just feel better about longevity with a shorter oil change. Granted, the oil may not be that worn out, but both the oil and the filter look really bad. Best

Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry

2016-09-20 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
I can definitely confirm this. When I worked at the dealership, we had a customer that brought in a 124 diesel. It was a former Oldsmobile and current Honda dealership. He had a coupon for the oil change. We changed it and he brought it back about 15 minutes later and was ranting and raving

Re: [MBZ] o'bungler's chickens coming home to roost

2016-09-20 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
This seemed like a nice clip from Ft. Myers yesterday: https://youtu.be/xl6SeBhNEF4?t=4519 Listen for about a minute. Trump telling about the way things probably will be for the NJ bomber-guy who will get world-class medical care, world-class legal representation, etc. That reality makes me want

Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry

2016-09-20 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
However, I did use it correctly if you look at the Latin use. At least in context. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Sep 20, 2016, at 12:59 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > I wondered if anyone would catch that > > Dan > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Sep 20, 2016,

Re: [MBZ] VW has lowest emissions

2016-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Thats probably more along the lines of what I meant. The Germans are starting to push back on the EU, supporting all those other countries looks a little less fun every year... -Curt From: "arche...@embarqmail.com" To: Curt Raymond ;

Re: [MBZ] o'bungler's chickens coming home to roost

2016-09-20 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Hardly. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mooninites https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_Shake Sent from my iPad > On Sep 20, 2016, at 12:58 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes > wrote: > > Dan wrote: >> Dan "Master Shake" > > You? - You are Ludmila? > ...hmmm... >

Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry

2016-09-20 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
I wondered if anyone would catch that Dan Sent from my iPad > On Sep 20, 2016, at 12:56 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Donald Snook wrote: >> I am just impressed that you used the word "lubricious" ! > > It's no wonder you're impressed. Here's the

Re: [MBZ] o'bungler's chickens coming home to roost

2016-09-20 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Dan wrote: > Dan "Master Shake" You? - You are Ludmila? ...hmmm... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry

2016-09-20 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Donald Snook wrote: > I am just impressed that you used the word "lubricious" ! It's no wonder you're impressed. Here's the primary definition: lu·bri·cious [lo͞oˈbriSHəs] ADJECTIVE "Offensively displaying or intended to arouse sexual desire."

Re: [MBZ] o'bungler's chickens coming home to roost

2016-09-20 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
I believe that's the Mooninites. Dan "Master Shake" Sent from my iPad > On Sep 20, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes > wrote: > > --R wrote: >> Do the Mennonites >> actually follow the full moon for their celebratory events? > > I gotta learn to read... >

Re: [MBZ] o'bungler's chickens coming home to roost

2016-09-20 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
--R wrote: > Do the Mennonites > actually follow the full moon for their celebratory events? I gotta learn to read... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] o'bungler's chickens coming home to roost

2016-09-20 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
--R wrote: > The weekend seemed to be an important holiday for... Nope! Just another full moon. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] VW has lowest emissions

2016-09-20 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
From what I've read over the years, they might have massive, well organized strikes; blocking roads, etc.; just like the French farmers did several years ago. Don't recall any riots; at least any recent riots. Gerry > Do you suppose Europeans would riot if they all suddenly had to buy gas cars

Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry

2016-09-20 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Something we always impressed upon our kids - build a big vocabulary, and more importantly, use it! Dan Sent from my iPad > On Sep 20, 2016, at 11:06 AM, Donald Snook wrote: > > I am just impressed that you used the word "lubricious" ! > > Don Snook > >

Re: [MBZ] Strange effect

2016-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I shot a little video last winter at -15F where our outside CFL wouldn't come to even half brightness. I could touch it and the heat of my hand was enough to get it all the way bright but it would go dim pretty quick when I let go. When that one dies it'll get replaced with an LED.

Re: [MBZ] Strange effect

2016-09-20 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
That's what I really dislike about the CFL curlicue lamps - they take a while, even where it's warm, to get to full brightness. I have a couple in the front porch fixture, but only because it's a PITA to get to and I leave it on all night. I have a couple of coach lamps on either side of the

Re: [MBZ] Costco light fixtures Was:Strange effect

2016-09-20 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 09:24:26 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > Well, yeah, that's true, but they work differently to achieve that > effect, more directly without all the drama of the fluorescent tube > arrangements. Not necessarily. Are you aware of all the

[MBZ] OT: Golf paint

2016-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Yesterday I went to our local Federal Auto Parts (sadly my local Car Quest got bought by Advance which then took a profitable location and ran it out of business) and got some 1000 and 1200 grit sandpaper. I went all over the fender with the 1000 and then the 1200, then again with the 2000 I

Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry

2016-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Are you equating "dirty" with "black"? You know its black about 1 second after you start the car right? Black oil isn't automatically dirty. If you haven't done oil analysis you don't know if the oil is dirty or not. The dirt is so small and its floating in the black oil that you can't see

Re: [MBZ] VW has lowest emissions

2016-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Do you suppose Europeans would riot if they all suddenly had to buy gas cars and pay more for fuel as gas prices rose? -Curt From: archer75--- via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: "arche...@embarqmail.com"

Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry

2016-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I think the "change every year" advice is bunk, especially in a diesel. Synthetic oil has such a high TBN to start with the acids produced by sitting aren't the concern they were in yesteryear. With the super low sulphur in today's diesel I don't think its a concern at all on diesels. Let it

Re: [MBZ] Curing paint on small painted objects

2016-09-20 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
I know this is an old post, but I just remembered I forgot to respond. I skimmed your message and before I read it clearly, I thought you had put the steel rod on the dash in order to paint it! I was thinking why the heck would he put it on the dash to paint it! Won't that get paint all

Re: [MBZ] Strange effect

2016-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I had a 100w equivalent CFL in the garage, it was okay but in the winter it was a real drag, it'd get up to full brightness eventually but sometimes that took a long time. Last year I bought a 75w equivalent LED for the in-laws but it wouldn't fit in their fixture, I replaced the CFL in the

Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry

2016-09-20 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
I am just impressed that you used the word "lubricious" ! Don Snook -Original Message- From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com] Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 8:16 PM To: Mercedes List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry It also implies my motivation is coming

Re: [MBZ] Maynerd's Was: Costco light fixtures Was:Strange effect

2016-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
At camp theres a Lowes thats failing. Their service is terrible.The local hardware/lumberyard, Collins (like Susan Collins, the senator from Maine) is going gangbusters but its all on service. When you buy lumber the salesperson takes you out to the lumberyard and helps you select your wood. If

Re: [MBZ] OT: Question for the Martha S of laundry

2016-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I bet the tenants figured "if a little is good, more is better" and over soaped. The machine probably can handle non-HE soap as long as you don't use too much... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc:

Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry

2016-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Dwight, I've had good luck finding 5w40 at Autozone but its in a different section from the normal oils, usually off to one side theres a diesel section with M1 5w40, Rotella, Delo and such. Yesterday I did an experiment. I poured some 15w40 conventional, 10w40 conventional, M1 15w50 and Liqui

Re: [MBZ] Costco light fixtures Was:Strange effect

2016-09-20 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Well, yeah, that's true, but they work differently to achieve that effect, more directly without all the drama of the fluorescent tube arrangements. --FT On 9/20/16 1:48 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: I don't generally like the very cool light, but these things at 4kK are not bad at all

Re: [MBZ] Maynerd's Was: Costco light fixtures Was:Strange effect

2016-09-20 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
I have a locally owned ACE Hardware that opened maybe 10 years ago close by in a little strip mall. I rarely if ever go to a big box home improvement store since they opened. Staffed by a bunch of old gruff curmudgeonly guys who really know their stuff. They're moving to a new location down

Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry

2016-09-20 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Agreed, but your observations are correct. Cars I have changed to synthetic, specifically Mobil 1, seem to run smoother and quieter after 2-3 oil changes. The former S500 coupe was a good example of this. It had a mild lifter tick at idle that was not due to leaking oiler tubes, as it often is

Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry

2016-09-20 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Hear Here! Nor would I force all Merkuns to buy ACC. But then THAT decision was not made by any engineer, it was made by the marketing bowties. rogerhga--- via Mercedes September 20, 2016 at 2:49 AM Well, I'll say this slightly tongue in cheek. I do know more

Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry

2016-09-20 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes
Well, I'll say this slightly tongue in cheek. I do know more than MB engineers because I would NEVER have put a Chrysler servo in an MB car. After have replaced that item many times in my 80 300SD, I have to wonder "what were they thinking"? Again, when I look at how dirty the oil is at 3K, I'm

[MBZ] VW has lowest emissions

2016-09-20 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
All major diesel car brands in Europe are selling vehicles that do not comply with air-pollution limits. The study shows Germany’s Volkswagen produces some of the cleanest cars. According to the report which comes in the wake of Volkswagen ‘Dieselgate’ scandal, there are 29 million 'dirty'

Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry

2016-09-20 Thread clay via Mercedes
I am torn on tossing synth into the SDL. When I used M1 in Gump, the first three changes did not seem to have much impact. The fourth change (15k miles) everything was running much smoother and quieter. Lots of the kruft that had taken up residence in the engine seemed to have been washed

Re: [MBZ] Strange effect

2016-09-20 Thread clay via Mercedes
That is a pretty good idea. I installed a set of those for my mother in her garage. She has a work bench and wanted some light. I forgot that I have tube lights in my basement that take forever to fire up. The LED would be a much enjoyed upgrade. clay > On Sep 19, 2016, at 11:19 AM, Floyd