Re: [MBZ] OT Metal detectors

> Floyd wrote: > Anyone have/use these things? I'm thinking to get one, what > might you recommend? I just got a used one _cheap_! Bounty Hunter Golddigger. Even new it's not expensive and actually works pretty good. A number of places I looked at recommended it for those who aren't sure if i

Re: [MBZ] Kyle's Next Wagon

By then 4 bolt-on motor wheels, battery pack in place of engine, and control unit in place of instrument panel. And it will be self-driving. Doesn't that thought make your day? ~~~ Karl Wittnebelcom> wrote: > Nah. By then the om648 will be the

Re: [MBZ] 123 weirdness

It was at the beginning of the post. 1981 240D 123.123.12 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes March 7, 2017 at 12:04 AM I forgot the year model for this car, but I always found the w123 Electrical Troubleshooting Manuals (ETM) to be excellent. Try here: https://www.starte

Re: [MBZ] 123 weirdness

The flasher relay in the 123 is clipped to the front of the shifter housing under the wood and does both the 4 ways and the blinkers, all routed through the 4 way switch. If it doesn't make good contact in the off position it will cause the blinkers not to work. Found that out many times alread

Re: [MBZ] 123 weirdness

Oh on the blinker relay I also found out that if it isn't clipped on securely then you can't hardly hear it click when it blinks. clay via Mercedes wrote: Could be the ground, or the flasher relay. Not sure if it lives behind the cluster or if the W123 had it built into the 4 way flasher. Remo

Re: [MBZ] 123 weirdness

The Blinker relay, 4 way switch and the dash blinker indicator lights are all grounded behind the dash. You have to have a good ground there for the relay to work reliably. Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: Ground seems to be the only commonality for windows, gauges but not turn signals, as t

Re: [MBZ] Kyle's Next Wagon

Wow that just gets me so exited tha Oh what happened? I must have drifted off for a bit there. Now what were we talking about? archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: By then 4 bolt-on motor wheels, battery pack in place of engine, and control unit in place of instr

Re: [MBZ] 123 weirdness

yes, the 4 way flasher switch. MG via Mercedes March 7, 2017 at 8:13 AM The flasher relay in the 123 is clipped to the front of the shifter housing under the wood and does both the 4 ways and the blinkers, all routed through the 4 way switch. If it doesn't make g

Re: [MBZ] Next car for Poos

That is a horrid color combination. " This was owned by a minister and well maintained (until the members found out the repair bills on that V12)" Actually, aside from parts costs (2 of everything) the V12 are apparently fairly reliable. --FT On 3/6/17 8:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Merce

Re: [MBZ] 123 weirdness

Does it need the annul blinker fluid flush and change? Or is that just on the regular blinkers that get used much more often? --FT On 3/7/17 9:35 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: yes, the 4 way flasher switch. MG via Mercedes March 7, 2017 at 8:13 AM The

Re: [MBZ] 123 weirdness

I will try to pull the cluster today and see if I can find the ground. It is near freezing, so I am reluctant to pull on the cluster until I can get the dash near 70º or so. Warm dash is less likely to break. MG via Mercedes March 7, 2017 at 8:25 AM The Blinker

Re: [MBZ] Next car for Poos

As with earlier models, if you want to get into a V12 for cheep, this is the way to go. Drive it like you stole it, do minimal maintenance, then kick it to the curb when it finally cacks. And buy a good gas card or credit card that earns pints, as you'll be getting lots of them with the gas you

Re: [MBZ] Next car for Poos

A very British or Irish sentiment! Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: or credit card that earns pints, Perhaps an appropriate freudian slip as St Paddy's approaches! Slainté ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ T

Re: [MBZ] March car upgrades

Liquid nitrogen is best. On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 11:08 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > Next weekend we switch to summer time at the PnP. Spring rains will > require the SD wiper blades to get sharpened. Might as well get fresh > blinker fluid in all my cars. > > http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?m

[MBZ] I WANT THIS

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2017/03/mercedes-amg-gt-concept-is-the-sexy-4-door-the-panamera-never-was.html -- --FT Winston Churchill: “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never y

Re: [MBZ] March car upgrades

Say what you want, but years ago I had a wiper blade sharpener. It had a little blade in it that restored the edge of the wiper blade buy just shaving a little bit off to make it square again. I would love to have it now for the MB inserts. -D Sent from my iPad > On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 11:08

Re: [MBZ] March car upgrades

I want to say that you're quite mad. On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > Say what you want, but years ago I had a wiper blade sharpener. It had a > little blade in it that restored the edge of the wiper blade buy just > shaving a little bit off to make it square again.

Re: [MBZ] March car upgrades

Not hardly. It was like this: http://www.wiper-wizard.com/ You just ran it over the blade and it shaved a tiny bit off, making the edges square and sharp again. It worked quite well as I recall. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Mar 7, 2017, at 12:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > I want to say

Re: [MBZ] 123 weirdness

On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 01:04:20 -0500 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: > I forgot the year model for this car, but I always found the w123 > Electrical Troubleshooting Manuals (ETM) to be excellent. > > Try here: > https://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/12265/disc_2/program/ETM/80_240. > pdf

Re: [MBZ] 123 weirdness

Curley > I've never scrapped a 123, so I am at a bit of a disadvantage. ...hmmm... Coulda swore it was Curley that came to strip a 123 here and had dinner. Maybe motor, trans, wheels, other bits doesn't constitute strip. tin-man ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] March car upgrades

How many strokes do you get before the device wears out? On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > Not hardly. It was like this: > > http://www.wiper-wizard.com/ > > You just ran it over the blade and it shaved a tiny bit off, making the > edges square and sharp again. It wor

Re: [MBZ] March car upgrades

The sharpener didn't wear out as I recall, you just replaced the blade in it. As for the wiper, I think you could do 4-5 passes before the blade got too short for use. It didn't take that much material off. -D Sent from my iPad > On Mar 7, 2017, at 12:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > How

Re: [MBZ] March car upgrades

Now I'm the Mad one. What sort of blade does it take? Single edge? On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > The sharpener didn't wear out as I recall, you just replaced the blade in > it. As for the wiper, I think you could do 4-5 passes before the blade got > too short for

[MBZ] 123 TD

I've soon got to start parting out this 79 TD I have here then haul the carcass off to the knackers. I want to keep the engine/tranny as it works, the rest I am going to pull out like Max and I did with Wilton's car. I have a place to store stuff so can do that once I get stuff out. I guess

Re: [MBZ] March car upgrades

Under $4.00 on ebay but all are from China or HK. "Currently unavailable" on Amazon. Where do you get 'em? On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > Now I'm the Mad one. What sort of blade does it take? Single edge? > > On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] March car upgrades

Major league anal retentive. (but we already knew that.) Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes March 7, 2017 at 11:46 AM I want to say that you're quite mad. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.c

Re: [MBZ] 123 weirdness

That was salvaging major components, but it is nothing like a strip for learning how it is made. And yes, I am still grateful! Mountain Man via Mercedes March 7, 2017 at 12:02 PM Curley > I've never scrapped a 123, so I am at a bit of a disadvantage. ...hmmm... Co

Re: [MBZ] March car upgrades

(We already knew that too. Not quite as Major League as Dan, but AAA at least, for sure!) Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes March 7, 2017 at 12:33 PM Now I'm the Mad one. What sort of blade does it take? Single edge? ___ http://

Re: [MBZ] March car upgrades

Huh? What is this in reference to? On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > (We already knew that too. Not quite as Major League as Dan, but AAA at > least, for sure!) > > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >> March

Re: [MBZ] 123 weirdness

Thanks Craig. Just one of the many annoying "features" of Outlook. If I weren't so lazy (I have huge pst archives) I'd switch to a better email client. > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of > Craig via Mercedes > Sent: Tuesday, March 07

Re: [MBZ] 123 weirdness

On 123s I like to remove the under-dash panel and push out the instrument cluster from the backside (i.e., from under the dash). In addition to electrical connectors you may have an actual oil hose for the oil pressure gauge (not sure about an 81 model). > -Original Message- > From: Merce

Re: [MBZ] 123 TD

I had a 79 TD. It was a nice little cat. Easy to maintain. A real workhorse. Great cruiser on the interstate although a bit noisy compared to my SD. But the NA engine was weak and required thinking ahead. > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] O

Re: [MBZ] 123 TD

I know what you mean. Arrive at the highway merge ramp the night before you plan on entering the interstate. On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I had a 79 TD. It was a nice little cat. Easy to maintain. A real > workhorse. Great cruis

Re: [MBZ] 123 TD

No you just have to use the on ramp the way it should be, most people seem to go up them about 30 then get to the end and try and merge in and speed up. Need to be at speed by the time you get to the end. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 7, 2017, at 2:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote

Re: [MBZ] 123 weirdness

I never saw a 123 that didn't have the oil line but then again I only ever had 240Ds... -Curt From: Scott Ritchey via Mercedes To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Cc: Scott Ritchey Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 weirdness On 123s I like to remove the under

Re: [MBZ] Better email client - was: 123 weirdness

> Scott wrote: > If I weren't so lazy (I have huge pst archives) I'd > switch to a better email client. Although .pst files are proprietary MS format, it looks like it isn't hopeless. Thunderbird is not necessarily the best choice, but it is well supported and it uses the mbox format with is ope

Re: [MBZ] 123 weirdness

Try Postbox. You can try it out for a month free. If you can get your .pst files into it, then to keep it going it is $20 forever. To me it is a great value. While others like thinderchicken, I found it to be awkward and lacking much. Postbox does not have the outlook add on junk, like cal

Re: [MBZ] 123 TD

This was the car the kids drove, it was perfect for them. Taught them to think and (mostly) kept them out of trouble. --R On 3/7/17 3:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: No you just have to use the on ramp the way it should be, most people seem to go up them about 30 then get to th

Re: [MBZ] 123 TD

I'm sure they (nonturbo 300TD diesels) are getting scarcer than hen's teeth. On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 4:33 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > This was the car the kids drove, it was perfect for them. Taught them to > think and (mostly) kept them out of trouble. > > --

[MBZ] Part #s for throttle linkage ball joints

Right hand thread throttle linkage ball joint 000 991 88 22 Left hand thread throttle linkage ball joint 000 991 90 22 Looks like these are legit part numbers and available from online dealers. 124 owners - replace the plastic sockets with these, I think you'll need three sets for a complete cha

Re: [MBZ] 123 TD

On 07/03/2017 3:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I'm sure they (nonturbo 300TD diesels) are getting scarcer than hen's teeth. I hope that means their value will climb. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.

Re: [MBZ] 123 TD

So long as they don't rust away first... On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 4:56 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 07/03/2017 3:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > >> I'm sure they (nonturbo 300TD diesels) are getting scarcer than hen's >> teeth. >> >> > I hope th

Re: [MBZ] Part #s for throttle linkage ball joints

I you have ever been stranded or inconvenienced by a stupid prastic ball joint: (or even a steel one with nylon inserts like on the MB column shift) See below: Meade Dillon via Mercedes March 7, 2017 at 3:53 PM Right hand thread throttle linkage ball joint 000

Re: [MBZ] Delivery valves

Thanks Curley - Yes, I remember the torque sequence that you provided, I just wondered if perhaps there was more about the DVs I have yet to discover When the torque is done in steps as suggested, is that to allow the fuel lines and fittings to be stress releaved?I'm just trying to u

Re: [MBZ] Delivery valves

the leaks you are mentioning are vacuum leaking past the threads? LarryT On 03/06/2017 7:03 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: Improperly torqued delivery valve seals result in the actual injection timing and fuel burn timing varying between the cylinders. The bigger the leak, the late

Re: [MBZ] 123 weirdness

On Tue, 07 Mar 2017 15:07:36 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: > Try Postbox. You can try it out for a month free. If you can get your > .pst files into it, then to keep it going it is $20 forever. Or you can use Sylpheed for free forever. http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/ It can import f

Re: [MBZ] Part #s for throttle linkage ball joints

$6.50 and $4.50 list, respectively. Thanks for that info, Max, I’ve been meaning to get a couple of sets. Dan > On Mar 7, 2017, at 4:53 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Right hand thread throttle linkage ball joint 000 991 88 22 > > Left hand thread throttle linkage ball joint 000

Re: [MBZ] March car upgrades

Haven’t had one for easily 25 years. Totally forgot about them until now. May have to look into buying one…. -D > On Mar 7, 2017, at 1:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > Under $4.00 on ebay but all are from China or HK. "Currently unavailable" on > Amazon. Where do you get 'em? > > On T

Re: [MBZ] Delivery valves

The DV holders are deceivingly low torque. If you used a wrench at the end of the scale, it may have been off enough to have caused the problem. Yes, the torque sequence is to make sure things are settled and stress relieved before the final torque. When the DV holders are over torqued, it c

Re: [MBZ] 123 weirdness

But Scott has the outlook virus with its .pst files Craig via Mercedes March 7, 2017 at 4:16 PM On Tue, 07 Mar 2017 15:07:36 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes Or you can use Sylpheed for free forever. http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/ It can import from the MH, MBOX,

[MBZ] 300SEL Fun - Tuesday

At the end of the weekend I had everything buttoned up on the 300SEL but the poor idle, which I suspected was the result of the broken carbon pin in the distributor cap that I had MacGuyvered with a carbon brush I fabricated into a new pin. Today a new Bosch rotor and distributor cap arrived.

Re: [MBZ] 300SEL Fun - Tuesday

Or you could just jack up the engine to change the hose. Dan Penoff via Mercedes March 7, 2017 at 5:49 PM At the end of the weekend I had everything buttoned up on the 300SEL but the poor idle, which I suspected was the result of the broken carbon pin in the dist

Re: [MBZ] 300SEL Fun - Tuesday

I’m going to have to jack it up to do the mounts, so I might was well do it all at one time. The hoses are stuck tight down in the area between the engine, AC compressor and other stuff on that side. They’re rubbing up against the inner fender from what I can see, which might be part of the pr

Re: [MBZ] 123 weirdness

I pulled out the cluster as far as I could without taking off the speedo cable or oil pressure sender. I ran out of time today before darkness. I could not find a ground lug. I reached up from under, and did not feel anything like a ground lug. Does anyone have a photo of the ground or give

Re: [MBZ] March car upgrades

I kind of peeved the boys at the FLAPS when I drug in 10 gallons of used oil. They only want five at a time. I had the oil from the jeep, the free SD, and the SDL when I got it in September and after the ND trip. The SD is having issues shifting. Might be a leak, as it leaves pretty multicol

Re: [MBZ] Part #s for throttle linkage ball joints

I must credit a member on the Peach Parts forum who just shared them. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On March 7, 2017 5:26:04 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >$6.50 and $4.50 list, respectively. > >Thanks for that info, Max, I’ve been meaning to get a couple of sets. > >D

Re: [MBZ] Delivery valves

Fuel leaking by, not vacuum. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On March 7, 2017 5:18:17 PM EST, Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: >the leaks you are mentioning are vacuum leaking past the threads? > >LarryT > > >On 03/06/2017 7:03 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: >> Improperl

Re: [MBZ] 123 weirdness

When you mentioned the heater blower that makes one wonder about something that switches both the heater blower and the cluster. The first thing that comes to mind is the ignition switch on the back of the steering wheel lock assembly. Curley wrot

Re: [MBZ] March car upgrades

I regularly take at least 7-8 gallons to my Advanced when I go. They know me well enough that they just push the parts cart at me and let me take it into the back and drain it into their tank myself. That’s usually to Topsiders (2-1/2 gallons each) and my extractor, which holds two gallons. L

Re: [MBZ] March car upgrades

The shop used to not have an issue. It is probably one of the least likely to have people actually bring oil in. It is right next to the university, the other neighborhoods are overly greenie, exceedingly rich, and the local lube joints are doing big business. I think I am the only person wit

[MBZ] ElastiWrap

I asked last week about ElastiWrap, a spray-on rubber product that could be used to finish a car. Today I found, http://www.hotrod.com/articles/eastwoods-elastiwrap-what-is-it-how-does-work/ Eastwood’s ElastiWrap: What Is It? How Does it Work? which talks about what it is and how it is used, and,

[MBZ] Metal Working

Also in my looking today, I ran across, http://www.hotrod.com/articles/professor-hammers-metalworking-tips-30/ Professor Hammer’s Metalworking Tips This article gives some pointers to a fellow who is looking to plug some rust holes in his car. It also has a link to, http://covell.biz/ Covell Cre

Re: [MBZ] Metal Working

Ron Covell can run circles around me actually! He's one of the best in the world! Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 7, 2017, at 10:42 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > Also in my looking today, I ran across, > > http://www.hotrod.com/articles/professor-hammers-metalworking-tips-30/ > Professor Ham

Re: [MBZ] Delivery valves

No, fuel leaking out of the plunger/sleeve set into the fill chamber that should have lifted the delivery valve and been injected. Over torque distorts the aluminum pump housing, and this can cause them to leak as well since the delivery valve holder may not be sitting square on the seal. It t