Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

2017-07-03 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
And I'd say west of the burg of pitts, (In PA) is Eastern KY or backwoods WV. I'd guess western Maryland, which is beautiful country, has the same problem, being stuck with the sucky laws made by/for a few wacko eastern counties. M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Does that Mercedes really have bulletproof glass?

2017-07-03 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGC-IJnlq1E Std. Production "bulletproof" glass. Mitch Haley via Mercedes July 3, 2017 at 8:28 PM Yep. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8i5d5toEDk ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list ar

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-03 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Waytago! Yeoman's work, as usual. Dan Penoff via Mercedes July 3, 2017 at 4:07 PM Picked up where I left off on Saturday. Went to the hose place and got humiliated…. It never occurred to me that the hose fittings are simply barbed fittings with metal ferrules

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

2017-07-03 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Since ethanol has been added for gasoline as an oxygen carrier for more than 40 years, it's not very likely that it causes damage to fuel systems unless they are very poorly designed (take note GM, this isn't 1955, eh?) Flex fuel vehicles can run on 85% ethanol, most "non flexfuel" vehicles com

Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

2017-07-03 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 10:10 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > > Does Houston and Dallas/Fort Worth do the same for the rest of > Texas? > Ask the Knudsens about FIBs. Pennsylvania has been described as "Philadelphia at one end, Pittsburgh at the other end and Alabama in the middle". ;-) -MMM-

Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

2017-07-03 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Curley wrote: > YUP!, but I'd except the part where MG is and the panhandle. > Too bad that area has the same sucky laws as the rest of the > state. Hmm. Southern Illinois just across the Mississippi river from St. Louis. It is a very long ways from Windy, but it too is stuck with the "same s

[MBZ] Fwd: Does that Mercedes really have bulletproof glass?

2017-07-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Answers that age old question about bullet proof 140 windows Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes > Date: July 3, 2017 at 8:38:42 PM CDT > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Mitch Haley > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Does that Mercedes really have bulletproof gl

Re: [MBZ] Cheap tires

2017-07-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
You STOLE those tires. On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 6:53 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I think I can afford that... > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD > '95 E300 > > On July 3, 2017 6:51:50 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wr

Re: [MBZ] Does that Mercedes really have bulletproof glass?

2017-07-03 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I don't think so, I think it's a bunch of idiots with a 600SEL... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGC-IJnlq1E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.oki

[MBZ] Does that Mercedes really have bulletproof glass?

2017-07-03 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Yep. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8i5d5toEDk ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Max! Donor W124 Wagon?

2017-07-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I have never heard of that before Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 3, 2017, at 7:46 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > I prefer the upgrade in the later years, with the Euro lights and more > chrome, but another critical difference is the strengthened rear subframe > mounts. Early years

Re: [MBZ] Max! Donor W124 Wagon?

2017-07-03 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I didn't know about the subframe mounts, and I don't know how many times the AC evaporator was revised from 1986-1995, but the facelift years were 94-95. If you're going to transplant your car into another body, it may as well be facelifted. Mitch. > On July 3, 2017 at 8:46 PM Meade Dillon vi

Re: [MBZ] Max! Donor W124 Wagon?

2017-07-03 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I prefer the upgrade in the later years, with the Euro lights and more chrome, but another critical difference is the strengthened rear subframe mounts. Early years were prone to cracking (my '87 wagon has these cracks) but that steel was thicker/stronger in later years. I need to dig up the rese

Re: [MBZ] Max! Donor W124 Wagon?

2017-07-03 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
He said he was looking for a 1995, but I don't know that a 1994 is any different, and it sounds like this one has ASD. > On July 3, 2017 at 6:24 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > > I can’t recall what you are looking for exactly, but I just saw this on BW: > > http://www.benzworld.org

Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

2017-07-03 Thread MG via Mercedes
Yup. Especially if you don't mind living far from a town. Where I am land is much more expensive now then what it was when we bought the place 45 years ago. Manfred Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Like any place, it requires compromises. Of course, you’re referring to south Florida. You cou

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

2017-07-03 Thread MG via Mercedes
Don, If I remember correctly ethanol has an octane rating over 100-110 or so. I'd have to look it up. Anyway when the ethanol is added to gas you can see that it will bring the octane of the gas up for less cost then probably anything else. Unfortunately it also brings the mileage that you get

Re: [MBZ] Cheap tires

2017-07-03 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I think I can afford that... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 3, 2017 6:51:50 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: >They will be about $21 after rebate. > >Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 3, 2017, at 5:26 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: >> >> Were the Ha

Re: [MBZ] Cheap tires

2017-07-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
They will be about $21 after rebate. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 3, 2017, at 5:26 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Were the Hankooks $55 before or after the rebate? > > - > Max > Charleston SC > > On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < > merce

Re: [MBZ] Cheap tires

2017-07-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Before Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 3, 2017, at 5:26 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Were the Hankooks $55 before or after the rebate? > > - > Max > Charleston SC > > On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>

Re: [MBZ] Max! Donor W124 Wagon?

2017-07-03 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Thanks, that would be in the right years (I think 1993-95) but it looks pretty rough. Also a northern car, so rust may be an issue. Black car with a dark brown interior, never saw that before. One grey front fender, dent in rear hatch, and rear bumper looks pretty beat up. I may reach out to se

Re: [MBZ] Strange Waltmobile

2017-07-03 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
That's the Battle Override switch, when you need Full War Power. Prevents limp-home mode from engaging, activate when you notice the enemies bullets ricochet from the bullet-proof windows. - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search l

Re: [MBZ] Cheap tires

2017-07-03 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Were the Hankooks $55 before or after the rebate? - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Discount tire was having a good rebate sale on tires this weekend so I > bought a set of Hankooks for the 240d for $5

[MBZ] Max! Donor W124 Wagon?

2017-07-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I can’t recall what you are looking for exactly, but I just saw this on BW: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2848562-1994-e320-wagon-dmv-maryland.html -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/arch

Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

2017-07-03 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
It's out away from a sizable city so you will have to go further for everything. TANSTAAFL. Living where I do it is about 20-25mi to most anything of substance, so I am sorta used to combining my trips once or twice a week to spend a coupla hours running around. Just part of the package. -

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-03 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
ATTABOY! On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 4:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Picked up where I left off on Saturday. Went to the hose place and got > humiliated…. > > It never occurred to me that the hose fittings are simply barbed fittings > with metal ferrules crimped on

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Picked up where I left off on Saturday. Went to the hose place and got humiliated…. It never occurred to me that the hose fittings are simply barbed fittings with metal ferrules crimped on them. As a result of this, all that needed to be done to re-orient my hose was to put the fitting in a v

Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

2017-07-03 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I'd like it to be Mississippi EAST! State by state, MS has the lowest cost of living. If it was MS East in place of FL, I'd move there. Dan Penoff via Mercedes July 3, 2017 at 3:19 PM That was my point. He could have an Okie Estate in northern FL or the panhand

Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

2017-07-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Just a couple of hours ago I had to dodge this old fart driving on our side of the divided highway. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 3, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > I can rarely go anywhere without almost getting run into by someone sending > or reading a text. > >

Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

2017-07-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That is goofy as sh*t. I wonder what would happen if you used a PO box for a legal address? The Allstate claims person explained it this way: As soon as there’s a PIP claim the state notifies all the carriers with an insured at the address. Allstate takes the lead, since they’re the insurer o

Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

2017-07-03 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I can rarely go anywhere without almost getting run into by someone sending or reading a text. Yesterday, A car coming at me was clear in my lane. Yesterday 4 people on motorcycles were killed by a dumbass texting who went into their lane. (I assume they were harleys, as they were not agile

Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

2017-07-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That was my point. He could have an Okie Estate in northern FL or the panhandle. There is nothing in the panhandle but pine trees. -D > On Jul 3, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > YUP!, but I'd except the part where MG is and the panhandle. Too bad that > area has

Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

2017-07-03 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Are we the original "no-fault" state? You can still sue the at fault driver for property damage up to $1000, so the goal of making lawsuits go away isn't quite met here. You can also sue for gross negligence, but that virtually never happens. We may be the only state with mandatory unlimited me

Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

2017-07-03 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
You mean the peoples republic of Mary Land? Fat chance! It sucks worse than FL. Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes July 3, 2017 at 12:33 PM Y'all need to move to the Free State. My rates are way lower. ___ http://www.okiebenz.c

Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

2017-07-03 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
YUP!, but I'd except the part where MG is and the panhandle. Too bad that area has the same sucky laws as the rest of the state. Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes July 3, 2017 at 12:26 PM Florida sucks ___ http://www.okiebenz.c

Re: [MBZ] Strange Waltmobile

2017-07-03 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
turns off the safety for the ejection seat! Donald Snook via Mercedes July 3, 2017 at 2:22 PM The toggle switch is what bothers me the most. What does it do? Don Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http:

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

2017-07-03 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Anything built after about 1985 or so should be ok. E10 first came out 44 years ago or more. Anything made within the last 35 years or so should be made with materials resistant to alcohol, excepting exotic furrin cars. Floyd Thursby via Mercedes July 3, 2017

Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

2017-07-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I think Michigan is worse than us. Mitch can probably tell us. -D > On Jul 3, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Wow, Florida has some of the worse insurance laws I have heard of. That > sounds like something they would come up with in California. > > Sent from m

Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

2017-07-03 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Look at the housing costs in Nowata: www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/claremore-ok/nowata-ok/5 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/

Re: [MBZ] Strange Waltmobile

2017-07-03 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
The toggle switch is what bothers me the most. What does it do? Don Snook -Original Message- From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com] Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 4:59 PM To: Mercedes List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Strange Waltmobile It’s been covered with something, the veneer isn’t ther

[MBZ] Cheap tires

2017-07-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Discount tire was having a good rebate sale on tires this weekend so I bought a set of Hankooks for the 240d for $55 each with $135 rebate, and a set of milestar or something like that for around the same price for the 01 e320. We will see how they compare to the Michelins I would have normally

Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

2017-07-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Wow, Florida has some of the worse insurance laws I have heard of. That sounds like something they would come up with in California. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 3, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > It’s getting better here. Apparently, some years ago the legislature dre

Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

2017-07-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
It’s getting better here. Apparently, some years ago the legislature dreamed up this batsh*t crazy scheme called “PIP”, or personal injury protection. It’s mandatory to carry PIP as a Florida driver. What PIP does is guarantee that the first $10,000 of coverage for medical or legal costs are

Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

2017-07-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Not to mention the inzane Chermans who don't obey speed limits. On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Our ins rates going up here quite a bit too, the inscos ran the numbers > and found out there is a more active cohort of dumbass drivers cau

Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

2017-07-03 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Our ins rates going up here quite a bit too, the inscos ran the numbers and found out there is a more active cohort of dumbass drivers causing all kinds of mayhem, so we all get to pay for it. I have this idea it is due to the influx of Yankees the last coupla years, I have noticed driving cond

Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

2017-07-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Y'all need to move to the Free State. My rates are way lower. On Jul 3, 2017 1:26 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Florida sucks > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 3, 2017, at 12:19 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > That

Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

2017-07-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Like any place, it requires compromises. Of course, you’re referring to south Florida. You could live in the northern half of Florida and have your Okie Acres with minimal land acquisition costs and fairly low cost of living with the exception of car insurance. Just ask Manfred, he’s got quit

Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

2017-07-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Florida sucks Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 3, 2017, at 12:19 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > That would probably cover one car with full coverage here. > > For the 1997 SL500 with full coverage, $500 collision deductible, $500 > comprehensive deductible, towing and rental I pay $200

Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

2017-07-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That would probably cover one car with full coverage here. For the 1997 SL500 with full coverage, $500 collision deductible, $500 comprehensive deductible, towing and rental I pay $2003.06 a year. For the 350SDL I pay about $1984.00 a year with the same coverage. Knock the collision off and yo

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

2017-07-03 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Don't you have to be really careful that your fuel system is set up for higher fractions of ethanol because that stuff will eat seals and gaskets and whatnot? I see these new vehicles with "flexfuel" badges on them which I guess means they can use whatever. I'd be real careful about that stuf

Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

2017-07-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I pay about $1600 a year to insure about 10 cars, 2 of which are full coverage. Wow. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 3, 2017, at 12:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > HAHAHAHA!!! > > Port St. Lucie is probably a good two hours to Miami by car, and it’s well > outside of the “Hispanic

Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

2017-07-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
HAHAHAHA!!! Port St. Lucie is probably a good two hours to Miami by car, and it’s well outside of the “Hispanic Zone”, so to speak. Not much, though. Still, housing is stupid expensive as are all the related costs. Bringing cars to Florida with you? $400/each to cross the state line and reg

[MBZ] Curt needs this

2017-07-03 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
Here's the cure for a rusted out Jetta, A whole new chassis! http://www.ebay.com/itm/1980-Replica-Kit-Makes-/132239327685 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http

Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

2017-07-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
So the guy down there now lives in Port St Lucie which looking on the map is well north of ft lauderdale. The market is technically the south Florida market and I bet he hardly goes to Miami Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 3, 2017, at 10:52 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > What’s not

Re: [MBZ] Car for Jaime

2017-07-03 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
When I was very young, we lived in Ashland (which is now called Vorhees). And many of my Dad's family members lived nearby in Maple Shade and some of the other small towns in the area. I remember thinking it was like New Jersey that everyone expected. Since I have been back, I realize it is s

Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

2017-07-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
What’s not apparent unless you’ve lived or worked there is that Miami is literally like another country. It’s been that way for years. It is totally dominated by the Hispanic culture, mainly from the Cuban immigrants that came over in the 1950s and 1960s. While most of them are well into thei

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

2017-07-03 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
Anybody know anything about E30. There is a gas station I drive by frequently that has E10, E20, and E30. The E30 was 93 Octane but was even cheaper than 87 E10. Ethanol has higher octane and plain gas, so that explains the higher Octane. I know some gas stations advertise that they sell on

Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

2017-07-03 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
I would think Dan is right about this. Miami has to be crazy expensive to live in. I have been considering a move for jobs in other areas of the country and many people underestimate the cost of living in a very large metropolitan area. Considering the access to the beach, I would think Miam

[MBZ] DAN NEEDS THIS

2017-07-03 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
https://jalopnik.com/i-am-completely-mystified-by-the-toyota-mr2s-floormats-1796550681 -- --FT Winston Churchill: “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield

Re: [MBZ] big oil dying (again)

2017-07-03 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
The article actually covers revisionists of various political types. Of course people in more populous states will tend to feel put out by the Senate. But the fundamental changes in population distribution since the document was written are rather profound, as the piece states. I rather enjoyed hi

Re: [MBZ] big oil dying (again)

2017-07-03 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
The NIH question is germane to the central discussion of whether the government should fund research on anything not expressly laid out in the constitution, e.g. solar power, and why or why not. On Jul 3, 2017 6:19 AM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" wrote: who started the tangent with NIH funding?

Re: [MBZ] big oil dying (again)

2017-07-03 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On July 3, 2017 at 9:09 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes > wrote: > > FYI since the constutution's relevance to government subsidies came up, an > interesting article Toobin wrote back in 2013. Interesting to read today: > > http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/12/09/our-broken-constitution

Re: [MBZ] big oil dying (again)

2017-07-03 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
who started the tangent with NIH funding? Paraphrasing Winston Churchill: those who, in their youth, are not liberal, have no heart. Those who, in maturity, are not conservative, have no brain Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: Public support for solar energy is at least tangentially rel

Re: [MBZ] big oil dying (again)

2017-07-03 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Public support for solar energy is at least tangentially related to diesel cars as a putative alternative. Oaths of office and marriage vows are pretty far afield. FYI since the constutution's relevance to government subsidies came up, an interesting article Toobin wrote back in 2013. Interesting