Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

2017-12-31 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Andy queries : ‎>Who's Andy? Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 2018

2017-12-31 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
I was in the garage working.  That is my NY resolution.   Get more sh, uh stuff done.  Happy New Year!  Time to relax, have a nice cold St. Pauley Girl NA, and go to bed. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archi

Re: [MBZ] 2018

2017-12-31 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
And the first and reply of the year... Bob R Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 31, 2017, at 11:09 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Here is the first post of 2018, at least in Okieland. > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > > > ___

Re: [MBZ] Starter choice

2017-12-31 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Andrew wrote: > Advance auto offers Delco and Bosch starters. Fairly > significant price difference. Any good reason to spring for the > Bosch? The Bosch starters last longer and run better than any of others I've tried. From my reading, I'm not the only one with that experience. ON 2014-11

[MBZ] 2018

2017-12-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Here is the first post of 2018, at least in Okieland. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go t

[MBZ] Happy New Year

2017-12-31 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
and safe driving to all in 2018. May the Diesel and Mercedes gods be with you . . . -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. Th

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

2017-12-31 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I've never put gasoline in intentionally to dilute #2. Once, unintentionally, and that was in the Quantum. I much prefer to mix #1 if I can't find Winter Diesel blend to buy. clay monroe via Mercedes December 31, 2017 at 11:37 PM And that has been a great A**s

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

2017-12-31 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
And that has been a great A**saver a few times. Dilute the grease with petrol and #2 was flowing well enough once more. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1986 SDL - Polei 1982 300 SD - Allen retired models- 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap 1976 300D - Blei Vanst -

[MBZ] Starter choice

2017-12-31 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Advance auto offers Delco and Bosch starters. Fairly significant price difference. Any good reason to spring for the Bosch? https://www.autopartswarehouse.com/search/?N=0&Nr=AND(wpn_tl_name:Engine+%26+Drivetrain,wpn_cat_name:Starters%5C%2C+Alternators%5C%2C+Batteries+%26+Components,wpn_scat_name

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

2017-12-31 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Who's Andy? On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > On December 31, 2017 at 4:11 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > Doubt it unless you're getting winter fuel all year, otherwise truckers > wouldn't be

[MBZ] Seat Belt Extenders?

2017-12-31 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
Do these actually fit 124s and/or 210s? https://www.ebay.com/itm/1PCS-UNIVERSAL-CAR-SUV-SEAT-BELT-EXTENDER-EXTENSION-BUCKLE-SAFETY-CLIP-25CM-5CM/311803654089 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

2017-12-31 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On December 31, 2017 at 4:11 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Doubt it unless you're getting winter fuel all year, otherwise truckers > wouldn't be able to go north... I've seen claims that you need to buy diesel from truck stops if you want to take a long drive north in the wi

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

2017-12-31 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Ok, thanks! I couldn't remember the number. tyee165 via Mercedes December 31, 2017 at 7:24 PM The manual for my old car says up to 30% regular gasoline ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

2017-12-31 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Andy doesn't want it right. He just likes to complain here and ignore the advice given. tyee165 via Mercedes December 31, 2017 at 7:00 PM Stop screwing around and test the dam*ed thing ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search l

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

2017-12-31 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
It is so easy to check if the block heater works. Plug it in overnight. In the morning lift the nood and stick you bare hand on the head or block. If it is warmer than ambient, ut is working. If you feel metal the same temp as the fender, replace the cord and try again. Andrew Strasfogel

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

2017-12-31 Thread tyee165 via Mercedes
Stop screwing around and test the dam*ed thing  Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Date: 2017-12-31 6:57 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew Strasfogel Subject: Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts I tr

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

2017-12-31 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Trucks have APUs. My guess is either they plug in the the truck and that also powers the fuel heater(s) as well as the block heater; or the heaters run off battery power and the APU starts up every so often to recharge the batteries. Dunno, I've never been that close to them. The other thing

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

2017-12-31 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Yes, the manual for at least one of my previous MBs did say up to 30% gasoline. I always added Power Service when I filled when it was going to be cold and never had a problem with gelled fuel, even down to -5° F. The main problem I had back then was straight dino oil and old batteries. Once I swit

Re: [MBZ] Another oil thread?

2017-12-31 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Wife came home with a bottle of 65%avocado and 35%olive oil yesterday. We tried it today for mushrooms to accompany the steak, and I couldn't tell the difference between it and the 50/50 butter/olive oil she usually does. It was on sale for just a little more than the usual olive oil. On Sun, Dec

Re: [MBZ] online forums

2017-12-31 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
No, I'm only seeing you once. I still sometimes see my posts twice though . . . On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 3:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > “Dear Penthouse Forum, you’re never going to believe this, but….” > > On an unrelated note, is it just me or are my messages f

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

2017-12-31 Thread tyee165 via Mercedes
The manual for my old car says up to 30% regular gasoline Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: Curley McLain via Mercedes Date: 2017-12-31 6:26 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 13 degree fai

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

2017-12-31 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I tried the one glow+ method again today. Fired up after 20 seconds. Block heater plugged in but unclear whether it really works or not. On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 7:26 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The supplement is not in a bottle, it is #1 fuel, or K1 at at lea

Re: [MBZ] Another oil thread?

2017-12-31 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Or avocado oil - available at Costco. I think I paid $7 or 8 for a liter when it first arrived. Odorless, tasteless and suitable for very high temperature cooking. Here's a handy how-to video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsVo-qNHCXM On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Curley McLain via Merced

Re: [MBZ] Pierre?

2017-12-31 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Extender that gets the plug out of the combustion chamber, away from oil sources? Also makes plug run a lot hotter, and lowers compression some. I tried one on the fouling 450SL. Mostly just reduced wear on head threads as plug came out for cleaning a _lot_. _

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

2017-12-31 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
The supplement is not in a bottle, it is #1 fuel, or K1 at at least 50%. Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes December 31, 2017 at 5:24 PM Well we hardly ever get this cold, but I suppose I could use a supplement. ___ http://www.oki

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

2017-12-31 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Not way less, 10% or so. I can tell when they switch in the fall. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 6:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Winter blend gets way less mpg doesnt it?  I would think that would be a big problem for large trucking companies

Re: [MBZ] online forums

2017-12-31 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
The only ones I can stand are the Cessna Pilots Society and the iFlyGPS forums. They are easy enough to find interesting threads and don't have that much traffic. I too prefer email lists . . . On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 9:27 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I gen

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

2017-12-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Winter blend gets way less mpg doesnt it?  I would think that would be a big problem for large trucking companies.  I have never seen or heard of any different diesel being used in the winter here. On 12/31/2017 5:05 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: How does that work when they shut down?

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

2017-12-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Well we hardly ever get this cold, but I suppose I could use a supplement. On 12/31/2017 4:30 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: That's my point!   Works great when it is 114 outside not well at all at 13ºF!   You need to mix your own fuel before you condemn car or batteries. Kaleb C

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

2017-12-31 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
How does that work when they shut down? Have to run the heater awhile before it will start?Back when I first got out of high school I did some work on the railroad, they were running bunker fuel and it was a big deal to get one started if it got shut down in winter... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail

Re: [MBZ] Delayed mail from Dan WUZ: online forums

2017-12-31 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Somethin did , either your or your ISP, or perhaps the ATT servers? Some tracert earlier would have told the story. Dan Penoff via Mercedes December 31, 2017 at 4:37 PM I'm wondering if my mail server hiccuped. -D ___ h

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Must sell Mercedes

2017-12-31 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Doh! Fred Moir. Lynn MA. Diesel preferred. From: Mercedes on behalf of Mitch Haley via Mercedes Sent: 31 December 2017 17:29 To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Mitch Haley Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Must sell Mercedes > On December 31, 2017 at 4:53 PM Fred Moir v

Re: [MBZ] Delayed mail from Dan WUZ: online forums

2017-12-31 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I’m wondering if my mail server hiccuped. -D > On Dec 31, 2017, at 5:34 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > I just got a bunch from Dan Penoff time stamped from 8:30 am on. They were > not there at 2:15, but showed up when I opened up the computer again at 4:15. > >> Dan Penoff vi

[MBZ] Delayed mail from Dan WUZ: online forums

2017-12-31 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I just got a bunch from Dan Penoff time stamped from 8:30 am on. They were not there at 2:15, but showed up when I opened up the computer again at 4:15. Dan Penoff via Mercedes December 31, 2017 at 3:02 PM On an unrelated note, is it just me or are my messages

Re: [MBZ] online forums

2017-12-31 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
He useta be on BW. Rick Knoble via Mercedes December 31, 2017 at 2:45 PM I don't usually use forums, as a "regular". If they come up in a search I am doing, I'll check them out. I know someone here who moderates (or used to) a diesel forum. I wonder where Dave

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

2017-12-31 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
That's my point! Works great when it is 114 outside not well at all at 13ºF! You need to mix your own fuel before you condemn car or batteries. Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes December 31, 2017 at 2:44 PM I am pretty sure we have the same fuel all year lon

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Must sell Mercedes

2017-12-31 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On December 31, 2017 at 4:53 PM Fred Moir via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Slightly crusty TD Or TE, as the case may be... Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options

Re: [MBZ] Another oil thread?

2017-12-31 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
It is not for you! It is animal fat based gun grease made for food plants to grease machinery, bearings, etc. It is not intended to be food, just intended to not be harmful in the event that some gets into your food. For greasing your skillet/griddle use butter, coconut oil, grapeseed oil o

Re: [MBZ] Another oil thread?

2017-12-31 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I know. I was just messing with the post. Sort of like every time I go to the airport I point out “terminal parking” to my kids. “Don’t want to park there!!!” -D > On Dec 31, 2017, at 5:08 PM, fmiser via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Dan wrote: > >> Why do I have an aversion to the idea of ge

Re: [MBZ] Another oil thread?

2017-12-31 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Dan wrote: > Why do I have an aversion to the idea of getting “food grade > grease” from Amsoil? Food grade grease if for the machines that handle food. If you have a meat band saw, do you want non-food grade grease on the bandwheel bearings? ___ http://www

[MBZ] Fw: Must sell Mercedes

2017-12-31 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Slightly crusty TD Fred Moir. Lynn MA. Diesel preferred. From: nore...@craigslist.org Sent: 31 December 2017 16:47 To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com Subject: Must sell Mercedes fredy4.s...@yahoo.com forwarded you this from craigslist: __

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

2017-12-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
That is true I suppose Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 31, 2017, at 3:11 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > Doubt it unless you're getting winter fuel all year, otherwise truckers > wouldn't be able to go north... > > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 3:45 PM, Kale

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

2017-12-31 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Doubt it unless you're getting winter fuel all year, otherwise truckers wouldn't be able to go north... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 3:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I am pretty sure we have the same fuel all year long here. Sent from my iP

Re: [MBZ] online forums

2017-12-31 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
“Dear Penthouse Forum, you’re never going to believe this, but….” On an unrelated note, is it just me or are my messages from earlier today getting repeated? -D > On Dec 31, 2017, at 4:00 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > I used to learn a lot in the Penthouse Forum but I don’t

Re: [MBZ] online forums

2017-12-31 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I used to learn a lot in the Penthouse Forum but I don’t know if it is online now or not. --R Sent from iPhone > On Dec 31, 2017, at 3:45 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > I don't usually use forums, as a "regular". If they come up in a search I am > doing, I'll check them out. I kn

Re: [MBZ] online forums

2017-12-31 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
It depends. I don’t frequent BW as much as I used to, since I really don’t have a need. However, back in the day with cars like the W140s it was indispensable for troubleshooting and fault diagnosis. Most of the subforums have FAQs and other very informative posts “stickied” at the top of the

Re: [MBZ] online forums

2017-12-31 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
I don't usually use forums, as a "regular". If they come up in a search I am doing, I'll check them out. I know someone here who moderates (or used to) a diesel forum.  I wonder where Dave M, (Spud boy, GXSR) hangs out... I'll have to search later this evening... Rick _

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

2017-12-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I am pretty sure we have the same fuel all year long here. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 31, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > ok, but WHAT is in the fuel tank? I'm still betting on summer fuel for 100 > to 120ºF. > > > >> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] foooot ball season

2017-12-31 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Sheboygan? Could be German or Dutch. That identifies about 95% of the population there. A little further south of town is Oostburg, which is 100% Dutch, then a little farther south to Belgium and Fedonia, which are both, well, Belgian. -D former Sheboyganite > On Dec 31, 2017, at 3:01 AM,

Re: [MBZ] online forums

2017-12-31 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I pretty much stick to BenzWorld. I’ve found that if you’re looking for model-specific information it’s the best place, in my opinion. I suspect that’s where you’re reading up on the oil cooler replacement - I bet someone has done a DIY on it and posted the information. I’ve also found that t

Re: [MBZ] foooot ball season

2017-12-31 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Here’s Lawrence with the Maharelle Sisters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KLSg1h0e-M -D > On Dec 30, 2017, at 10:58 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Watched Lawrence Welk re-run tonight. "And a one and a two..." in that thick > Midwestern accent. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston

Re: [MBZ] Another oil thread?

2017-12-31 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Why do I have an aversion to the idea of getting “food grade grease” from Amsoil? -D looking for alternatives to greasing his food > On Dec 30, 2017, at 9:01 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > I received a "Factory Direct" Amsoil catalog in the mail today - they do > claim their oil is 100

[MBZ] Happy New Year!

2017-12-31 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Happy New Year! to all y'all! May your MBs all run without flaw! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

2017-12-31 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Exactly my problem in the 83 300TD. I guess a working block heater would help. On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > So it is currently 13 outside and i decided I wanted to see if a few cars > would start. I did not mess with starting

Re: [MBZ] TOO MUCH RED

2017-12-31 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Watching the original Dr. No. Well crafted, taut thriller with Sean Connery at his finest. A little hokey, but thoroughly enjoyable. On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > The criticism of the english car is not remarkable to anyone who t

Re: [MBZ] online forums

2017-12-31 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I dislike them immensely, as a source of info; unless you find them in search results, but even then you have to read through a lot of extra stuff to get to the meat. I learn a lot more from this email list. Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes December 31, 2017 at 9:

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

2017-12-31 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
ok, but WHAT is in the fuel tank? I'm still betting on summer fuel for 100 to 120ºF. Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes December 31, 2017 at 12:35 PM I forgot to mention all of the cars have Delvac 1300 15w40 Dino in them. ___

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

2017-12-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Well it’s now up to 17, I went out and checked the charger on the sdl and it said fully charger. I glowed it until the relay clicked off, cycled the key again then started cranking. A couple starting hitting, then more, and it fired to life with a huge cloud of smoke. Sent from my iPhone > On

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

2017-12-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I forgot to mention all of the cars have Delvac 1300 15w40 Dino in them. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 31, 2017, at 12:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > Exactly my problem in the 83 300TD. I guess a working block heater would > help. > >> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin

[MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

2017-12-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
So it is currently 13 outside and i decided I wanted to see if a few cars would start.  I did not mess with starting the 606 vehicles as I know they will start.  So first up was the 83 240D I have been working on that I picked up non running.  It has had all new filters, oil change, valves adju

Re: [MBZ] Another oil thread?

2017-12-31 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On December 30, 2017 at 8:13 PM OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > > IIRC, Amsoil is the only one that makes a pure synthetic oil since the > lawsuit that Mobil lost when claiming that the blended oil could not be > labeled synthetic. Economics then dictated that everyone make the cheapest > o

[MBZ] online forums

2017-12-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I generally do not like the online forums all that much, I much preferred email lists but I guess I am old fashioned.  Anyway, I do check out Benzworld and Peachparts every now and then.  Since it was so cold yesterday, and today, and tomorrow, I have been bored and have been reading them a bit

Re: [MBZ] TOO MUCH RED

2017-12-31 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
The criticism of the english car is not remarkable to anyone who tried to drive one. As for the batman, he was too much like the prince of darkness, Lucas. Batman and superman were passe when I was a kid.remnants of the 30s, 40s and 50s. FIreball XL5, yogi bear, and the Warner Brothers carto

Re: [MBZ] foooot ball season

2017-12-31 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Could be a mixture. Lots of territory went back and forth. (Danzig/Gdansk for example) I always thought he was auf Deutsch until I was around Polish some. archer75--- via Mercedes December 31, 2017 at 2:01 AM Sounded German. "A little Dutch (Deutch?) girl in She

Re: [MBZ] foooot ball season

2017-12-31 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Sounded German. "A little Dutch (Deutch?) girl in Sheboygan...", etc. Gerry ~~~ On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 21:59:36 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: > nope, that is Polish NoDak. > > > Max Dillon via Mercedes > > December