Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-26 Thread Dan Penoff
I fully agree with you on that, however, my current situation is such that I am living in an apartpit and don't have a place to work on the car. Once this situation is resolved (September 16, to be exact) that will change. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Aug 25, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Fmiser

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-26 Thread Allan Streib
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:18 -0400, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: When the stealership does oil and filter changes here for under $20, it's not worth the time and trouble to change the oil myself... No dealer around here does oil changes that cheaply anymore. Last dealer oil change I had

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-26 Thread Dan Penoff
It's a Ford marketing ploy to get you in and find other work to do. Nothing new there. My car is maintained well enough that they are usually hard pressed to find anything wrong with it. In fact, since I used the same service writer, he doesn't even bother with the upsell garbage. Dan Sent

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-26 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: The places that do offer cheap oil changes, I would not trust that they are using quality oil, filters, or personnel. The local Chebby dealer does cheap oil changes (cheaper than the Outshiner car wash or Wal-Mart) with coupons that are available more often than my mom's

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-26 Thread Allan Streib
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 09:37 -0400, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: The local Chebby dealer does cheap oil changes (cheaper than the Outshiner car wash or Wal-Mart) with coupons that are available more often than my mom's car needs an oil change. The last time I changed the oil myself, I

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-26 Thread Dan Penoff
Yup. Motorcrap filter and their synthetic blend oil. I look at it this way: If I reverted back to Mobil1 and stock Motorcrap filters and did the deed myself, it would cost me almost double what the stealership charges me to do it. I have trained them to ignore the effort to upsell me, so since

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-26 Thread Tim C
Both my local dealers are $50/oil, if they don't also do the $40 rotation without asking. (Though I got a coupon for a free oil change; they also noted to -never do tire rotations- for me again. :) They don't even bother sending me coupons anymore, they were usually only $5 off and not valid on

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-26 Thread WILTON
My $2 sucker/topsider does it in about 5 min. Wilton - Original Message - From: Tim C bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] $1000 car Both my local dealers are $50/oil, if they don't also do

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-26 Thread Mitch Haley
Randy Bennell wrote: http://g.co/maps/bm8e Looks like less than 2km by carrier pigeon. Is it feasible to ride a bicycle down 42? Or would you have to take University Crescent? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-26 Thread Randy Bennell
On 26/08/2011 2:16 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Randy Bennell wrote: http://g.co/maps/bm8e Looks like less than 2km by carrier pigeon. Is it feasible to ride a bicycle down 42? Or would you have to take University Crescent? It would be feasible to walk or bicycle especially if I went overland on

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread kevin kraly
Wow, I didn't know that Gump was a $120 car! 60K miles out of a $2K total investment = double wow! That's way less than the average car payment for average transportation, and a W115 is far from that, IMO. He served you well indeed! Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Walt Zarnoch
My trucks have all been $400 or less. Trick is to get em when you know what's wrong with them, and the repair costs are worth it. Walt On Aug 25, 2011 3:06 AM, kevin kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote: Wow, I didn't know that Gump was a $120 car! 60K miles out of a $2K total investment = double

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Michael Canfield
My first MBZ was a $500 240d. I drove it 30k miles or so. Steve MacSween put an engine in it an as far as I know is still driving it. There IS such a thing as a cheap Mercedes if you aren't anal about perfection. I have put 6k miles on my $1100 300d on near free wvo and have replaced one rear

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Hans Neureiter
Bought the '82 in '94 for $ 2,500. Huge investment. 1 motor (entirely my fault), 1 tranny + misc. repairs later (starter, steering and suspension, A/C, etc.) I now have less than maybe $ 8,000 in it. That boils down to $ 500/year or 2 months worth of car payments/year for a daily driver. -- Hans

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Redghost
Well served. That is why I am able to reluctantly let her go. My PnP stash is another $250 investment that should translate into good cash on sale. All I need are buyers. I kaleb would come this way, he could have a containers worth of parts to peddle. Clay Sent from my iPad On Aug 25,

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Randy Bennell
On 24/08/2011 10:14 PM, Redghost wrote: Gump was $120. I got 60k miles on her, spent $2k, drove 6 years. He'll of a lot better investment than some cars. Will get at least that much as scrap, and have sold enough parts off her to cover a few tanks of fuel. Compare that with a nice little

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Randy Bennell wrote: Some of the cost was labour as I had to have a major (clutch replacement) repair in the dead of winter and paid to have it done at a shop. ($3600 or thereabouts). Wow. I'm thinking $700 parts, $400 labour in the worst case. How does the tab get run up to $3k?

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Dead of winter --- that's how it gets ran up. Walt On Aug 25, 2011 1:23 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Randy Bennell wrote: Some of the cost was labour as I had to have a major (clutch replacement) repair in the dead of winter and paid to have it done at a shop. ($3600 or

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Randy Bennell
On 25/08/2011 12:22 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Randy Bennell wrote: Some of the cost was labour as I had to have a major (clutch replacement) repair in the dead of winter and paid to have it done at a shop. ($3600 or thereabouts). Wow. I'm thinking $700 parts, $400 labour in the worst case. How

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Randy Bennell
On 25/08/2011 1:12 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: Dead of winter--- that's how it gets ran up. Walt Well, I don't think I was robbed. The shop is owned by someone I know. The head mechanic is my brother in law and he was the one who did the work on it. My son later served part of his

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Randy Bennell wrote: These trucks have torsion bars that go into the cross member at the back end of the bar so one cannot pull the cross member unless one wishes to release and remove the torsion bars etc so it makes for a bit of a job to get the tranny and transfer case out. Had to cut the

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Randy Bennell
On 25/08/2011 1:28 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Randy Bennell wrote: These trucks have torsion bars that go into the cross member at the back end of the bar so one cannot pull the cross member unless one wishes to release and remove the torsion bars etc so it makes for a bit of a job to get the

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 25/08/2011 12:22 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Randy Bennell wrote: Some of the cost was labour as I had to have a major (clutch replacement) repair in the dead of winter and paid to have it done at a shop. ($3600 or

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Wasn't implying you were, I just know that billed hours are understandably more in the winter, since ma nature likes throwing a hockey puck in the works for you. Walt On Aug 25, 2011 2:25 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 25/08/2011 1:12 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: Dead of winter---

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Allan Streib
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:28 -0400, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: I thought that Ford had been concentrating on designing for ease of maintenance since they introduced the Tempo in what, 1983? Maybe they were only talking about making oil changes simple. If so they've failed. The oil

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Dan Penoff
When the stealership does oil and filter changes here for under $20, it's not worth the time and trouble to change the oil myself... Dan Sent from my iPhone On Aug 25, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:28 -0400, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Dan Penoff
I would also add that other companies, such as Nissan, are not making things easy, either. Try changing filters on an Altima sometime. If you don't get the car in the air, the filter can only be reached by turning the wheels to the left stop and reaching in through the right side wheel well.

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Randy Bennell
On 25/08/2011 2:06 PM, Allan Streib wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:28 -0400, Mitch Haleym...@voyager.net wrote: I thought that Ford had been concentrating on designing for ease of maintenance since they introduced the Tempo in what, 1983? Maybe they were only talking about making oil changes

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Randy Bennell
On 25/08/2011 2:18 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: When the stealership does oil and filter changes here for under $20, it's not worth the time and trouble to change the oil myself... Dan In my experience, they rob me if I ask for Mobil 1. Randy ___

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Randy Bennell wrote: ___ I would not say that a system that requires the transmission to be removed in order to get to the slave cylinder is designed for easy maintenance. It is a circular design that goes around the main input shaft to the transmission.

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Dan Penoff wrote: I would also add that other companies, such as Nissan, are not making things easy, either. Try changing filters on an Altima sometime. If you don't get the car in the air, I think the point is the car is supposed to be over a pit or on a lift, as they do not expect anybody

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Dan Penoff
Very true. However, my Ford Focus wagon has a complete dealer service history from the date of delivery, so my MB-ness forces me to continue work at the dealer whenever it makes fiscal sense, as this does. They use the Motorcraft synthetic blend, whatever that is. But I have broken them of

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Redghost
SWMBA paid $3k cash to the body shop to pound out dents idiot son put in the rear of the e300d. Did not do full job by replacing bumpers. She thinks Gump is a poor investment and expects me to replace it with some plastic car. Now I drive the e d with duct tape instead. Paid cash for both

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread WILTON
Subject: Re: [MBZ] $1000 car On 25/08/2011 2:06 PM, Allan Streib wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:28 -0400, Mitch Haleym...@voyager.net wrote: I thought that Ford had been concentrating on designing for ease of maintenance since they introduced the Tempo in what, 1983? Maybe they were only talking

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Curt Raymond
-0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] $1000 car Message-ID: 4e5684e1.9010...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Randy Bennell wrote: Some of the cost was labour as I had to have a major

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Randy Bennell
On 25/08/2011 4:38 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I'm thinking Randy doesn't drive much ;) Last time I had a clutch done it was about $1000, that was my '83 240D which actually needed a center carrier bearing (noisy) but got a replacement transmission. Figured to do the clutch while the trans was

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Randy Bennell
http://g.co/maps/bm8e trying again Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Rich Thomas
Oh say now, didja pick up a wood chipper donchaknow? --R On 8/25/11 6:29 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: We went to Fargo last week for a couple of days and that is about 210 miles due south. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Curt Raymond
. This is one reason I really like having a 190D 2.2l, my '84 is averaging 37mpg, the '85 5spd ('84 is auto) did 38mpg. -Curt Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 17:29:34 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] $1000 car Message-ID

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-25 Thread Fmiser
On Aug 25, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Allan Streib wrote: ... The oil filter on our Focus is on the back of the transverse-mounted engine, only accessible from underneath the car with an arm hooked around the passenger side front axle. Dan Penoff wrote: When the stealership does oil and

[MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-24 Thread Rolf
Ripped from benzworld : 1000 Dollar Car Lyrics The Bottle Rockets Thousand dollar car it ain't worth nothin' Thousand dollar car it ain't worth shit. Might as well take your $1000, and set fire to it. $1000 car ain't worth a dime, You lose your $1000 every time. Oh why did I ever buy, a $1000

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-24 Thread Fmiser
Rolf wrote: Ripped from benzworld : 1000 Dollar Car Lyrics The Bottle Rockets Thousand dollar car it ain't worth nothin' Thousand dollar car it ain't worth shit. Might as well take your $1000, and set fire to it. I find that $1000 cars can be a real bargain - but only because I don't

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-24 Thread Max Dillon
I like it. Sounds like a song they should play on Car-talk. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: Ripped from benzworld : 1000 Dollar Car Lyrics The Bottle Rockets Thousand dollar car it ain't worth nothin' Thousand dollar

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-24 Thread Randy Bennell
On 24/08/2011 1:11 PM, Fmiser wrote: Rolf wrote: Ripped from benzworld : 1000 Dollar Car Lyrics The Bottle Rockets Thousand dollar car it ain't worth nothin' Thousand dollar car it ain't worth shit. Might as well take your $1000, and set fire to it. I find that$1000 cars can be a real bargain

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-24 Thread Curt Raymond
@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] $1000 car Message-ID: 2011082413.f020d5c9.fmi...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Rolf wrote: Ripped from benzworld : 1000 Dollar Car Lyrics The Bottle Rockets Thousand dollar car it ain't worth nothin' Thousand dollar car it ain't worth

Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-24 Thread Redghost
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] $1000 car Message-ID: 2011082413.f020d5c9.fmi...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Rolf wrote: Ripped from benzworld : 1000 Dollar Car Lyrics The Bottle Rockets Thousand dollar car it ain't worth nothin