E M wrote:
I'm on my back in a foot of snow at times, changing the oil before
I'll take a car in now!
That's the Porsche, not the Benz, right?
Mitch.
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Pretty much. They flex above a certain torque value.
It's good that they are using them, however, all cars
don't have the same lug nut/bolt torque.
As soon as I get home from a tire replacement or wheel
removal, I bust 'em all loose and retorque them to
spec myself. I also use anti-seize on
Probably they've been sued a few times for leaving the lugs loose. So
getting the wrench to click proves that they are at least at a minimum
torque, probably a lot more.
Once they get sued a few times for bending wheels by over/incorrect
tightening, they might take the time to do it right.
The
Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] tool quality.
Pretty much. They flex above a certain torque value.
It's good that they are using them, however, all cars
don't have the same lug nut/bolt torque.
As soon as I get home from a tire replacement or wheel
removal, I bust 'em all loose and retorque them to
spec
The porsche goes away in the winter and I haven't had the benz a year yet,
but I suspect the benz will get it's winter changes that way. I wouldn't
find the right sucker for it, so I just did it the last twice from the
bottem. It really takes no time to do it from the bottom of the benz and
I think there's something to that!! Their lawyers would rather have you
driving around with a worped rotor than to lose a wheel. hee hee And many
subscribe to the thought, that if one extra turn is good, two is better. :-)
Ed
300E
On 22/07/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Probably
changes quick but last year I picked
up a big Husky wrench set for like $10, very nice wrenches. Compared to a
similar set at a tool show for the same money you get garbage.
-Curt
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:34:26 -0700
From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] tool quality
it on one of the lugs of a car half buried in the muck. My
wife and I stood on it together and the nut let go with that amazing screech
you only ever seem to get from lugnuts.
No I won't sell it.
-Curt
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:00:20 -0700
From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT
Guess that's the confidence I have in Craftsman. It stood up to it. Of
course knowing I have the lifetime warranty, which I think does not
require a receipt or an explanation, allows me to be so free with
things.
Brian
Curt wrote:
For lugnuts a ratchet is TOTALLY the wrong tool and its real easy
Curt wrote:
For lugnuts a ratchet is TOTALLY the wrong tool and its real easy to
break 'em unless you've got a 3/4 ratchet...
Only if they've been overtightened by some ape at the tire store with
an air wrench!
Alex
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Guess that's the confidence I have in Craftsman. It stood up to it. Of
course knowing I have the lifetime warranty, which I
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Guess that's the confidence I have in Craftsman.
It stood up to it. Of
course
Exactly and 90% of the time if you weren't standing over them telling them not
to overtighten when they put 'em on they've over tightened them...
-Curt
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 12:45:55 -0700
From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] tool quality.
To: Mercedes Discussion
Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] tool quality.
Exactly and 90% of the time if you weren't standing over them telling
them not to overtighten when they put 'em on they've over tightened
them...
-Curt
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 12:45:55 -0700
From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 14:11:23 -0700 (PDT) LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I was in trade school too many years ago, a lot
of my starving student buddies used to troll the local
swap meets and garage sales for broken Craftsman tools
that they would then take to Sears for replacements.
isn't that what a ratchet, a 1/4 socket and screwdriver bits are for?
When I was in college, a friend needed to loosen an extremely tight screw
on a circuit breaker. He got a very large Craftsman flat-blade screwdriver
and a crescent wrench and went at it. The square shank on the screwdriver
I have my Craftsman vice grips I was using some years ago to remove an
electric wire from a meter box. I thought the wire was dead (it SHOULD
have been if it had been wired properly). I grabbed it and gave it a
pull when it bit through the insulation and grounded out on the box,
removing
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:47:09 -0400 Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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isn't that what a ratchet, a 1/4 socket and screwdriver bits are for?
Yes, but the bits weren't available then (1968). In addition, the head of
the screw was like 5/8 in diameter.
Craig
I did something similar a few weeks ago. I broke the golden rule: never
trust the guy throwing the switch, check it yourself!! I had insulation on
the cutters, but blew a nice hole in them, and everyone was impressed with
the light and sound show. hee hee. The hair on my arm has almost grown
: Saturday, July 21, 2007 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] tool quality.
Exactly and 90% of the time if you weren't standing over them telling them
not to overtighten when they put 'em on they've over tightened them...
-Curt
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 12:45:55 -0700
From: Alex Chamberlain
: [MBZ] [OT] tool quality.
Exactly and 90% of the time if you weren't
standing over them telling them
not to overtighten when they put 'em on they've
over tightened them...
-Curt
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 12:45:55 -0700
From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ
LWB250 wrote:
Most of the tire places I've seen these days appear to
use the torque limiting extensions on their rattle
guns.
At Wal-Mart, they used a light torque limiting bar, but only
for safety, the tightening was limited by spinning the lugs
on with quick light burps of the rattle
Which is why I take the wheels off at home and take them to the tire
shop, then bring them back and put them back on my self - with the
torque wrench.
On 7/21/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Curt wrote: if you weren't standing over them telling them not to
overtighten
I watched a gas
I've watched in several clueless Walmarts and they tighten to a rattle with the
air gun, lower the car to the ground, and then check with the torque wrench.
One time while waiting in line, I wanted to yell at the tech for having no clue
how to use a torque wrench, but it wasn't my
And a 1/4 ratchet won't give you nearly the same torque that can be achieved
with a crescent wrench :D
Luther
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:49:01 -0500, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:47:09 -0400 Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
isn't that what a ratchet, a 1/4
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 22:13:36 -0500 Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And a 1/4 ratchet won't give you nearly the same torque that can be
achieved with a crescent wrench :D
Yes, especially a 12 crescent wrench!
Craig
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How do those things work? I see them in a set with diff colors, diff
torques I guess. Do they start to wind up or something at the set torque?
--R
LWB250 wrote:
Most of the tire places I've seen these days appear to
use the torque limiting extensions on their rattle
guns.
You are remembering to use a pipe on the end of that wrench, arent' you?
Ed
300E
On 21/07/07, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And a 1/4 ratchet won't give you nearly the same torque that can be
achieved with a crescent wrench :D
Luther
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:49:01 -0500, Craig McCluskey
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From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] tool quality.
Exactly and 90% of the time if you weren't standing over them telling
On 7/21/07, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've watched in several clueless Walmarts and they tighten to a rattle with
the air gun, lower the car to the ground, and then check with the torque
wrench.
That drives me up the wall. They make such a big show out of going
around the car and
Me too. Ever since they bent the sill on my porsche changing the rubber.
When I bought the benz 3-4 months ago, they did the same to the sill on it
when doing the safety, but try to prove it. The only time a car of mine
sees a shop now is when I buy one and I need that piece of paper!
Otherwise,
Interesting that Craftsman is now carried at Kmart.
I needed one single socket recently and wound up buying an 18 pack
that apparently was incorrectly priced at $20. The lady walked back
there and checked and had to admit that the sign said what I told her
it did. (I feel a little guilty for this
On 7/20/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Interesting that Craftsman is now carried at Kmart.
Not really. They're the same company (Sears Holdings Co., SHLD on the NYSE).
Alex
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Geez, if that's how you guys get the drain plugs out, no wonder most of you
think it's safer to suck the oil out from the top!!! hee hee. Once you
have to start calling upon the leg muscles when working on the oil pan, you
probably have a little too much torque on them there nuts. '-)
Ed
300E
K-mart owns Sears.
Tom
www.kegkits.com
Quoting Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 7/20/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Interesting that Craftsman is now carried at Kmart.
Not really. They're the same company (Sears Holdings Co., SHLD on the
NYSE).
Alex
I know - it's crazy to have the oil plug tightened that much.
This was on my Saab, and the previous owner tended to really horse on
things. He is a mechanic, but I have a theory, based on his dishonesty
with us, that he overtightened a few things in order to make me come
calling on his paid
E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Often times here, providing there is a head company address, it's
not required to say where the product is produced. I find often when
made in the US, the tend to stamp it with pride. If no label, I
tend to conclude it's not US made.
Just got a Craftsman Tool
Greetings and Salutations.
This tool thread is oddly timely as I have been searching for a second (backup)
of an Husky ratchet 22203 that is particularly useful, handy if you will.
I called Husky (Stanley) and the said that it was only available in sets at big
box stores (House brand at Home
I remember an old J.C.Penny catalog about 20 years ago had little flags
beside all the listed items. I thought it was a great idea and I'd love to
see it here.
Ed
300E
On 19/07/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Often times here, providing there is a
E M wrote:
I can say I've never purchased a tool from the US that I was unhappy with.
I have, and it's on topic to the start of the thread, which was brake lines.
I bought a Cal-Van flare nut wrench because it was made in USA. It was
shrink-wrapped, so I couldn't really see the working
I love S-K hand wrenches, almost as nice to hold
as Snap-On, but not quite as nicely broached. Too bad I can't get them
for $5 each any more.
Yup. S-K is good stuff. So are Proto and Armstrong. Mac and Snap On are
more pricey.
Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT
What about the German brands?
On 7/18/07, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I love S-K hand wrenches, almost as nice to hold
as Snap-On, but not quite as nicely broached. Too bad I can't get them
for $5 each any more.
Yup. S-K is good stuff. So are Proto and Armstrong. Mac and Snap
Often times here, providing there is a head company address, it's not
required to say where the product is produced. I find often when made in the
US, the tend to stamp it with pride. If no label, I tend to conclude it's
not US made.
Ed
300E
On 18/07/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.armstrongtools.com/about/usa.jsp
Luther, soon to be an Armstrong tool owner
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:05:05 -0500, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Often times here, providing there is a head company address, it's not
required to say where the product is produced. I find often when made
Someone sent that link to me a while back. They seem to have some nice
stuff! They will be getting some of my money in the future. :-)
Ed
300E
On 18/07/07, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.armstrongtools.com/about/usa.jsp
Luther, soon to be an Armstrong tool owner
On Wed, 18
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