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> That is exactly it.
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> Mike
> On Sep 4, 2013 1:08 PM,
Richard Hattaway
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Has anyone ever seen a fire from jumper cables in anything other than a
eone here might think you know
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Mike,
I don't assume someone is stupid.? If you re-read your comment, the one I
reacte
ructive suggestions, fine. If you want to
> run around screaming the sky is falling, it does no one any good. Plain
> and simple.
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ator issue
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> That is exactly it.
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> On Sep 4, 2013 1:08 PM, "Curt
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The (bad?) battery still starts the car, so I'll use it for starting.
ernator issue solved.
From: Michael Canfield
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That is exactly it.
Mike
On Sep 4, 2013 1:08 PM, "Curt Raymond" wrote:
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cables and possibly start a fire...
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> -Curt
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> Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 09:12:08 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Richard Hattaway
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Mr. Hattaway, maybe you should not assume folks are stupid. Been a
mechanic over 25 years. You try starting even a good starting Diesel with
the average set of cables people use these days and a bad battery and you
are going to burn up
Gerry,
We now have three NEW threads discussing your '83 300D alternator,
one with the subject [MBZ] . Alternator question '83 300D
one with the subject [MBZ] .. Alternator question '83 300D
one with the subject [MBZ] ... Alternator question '83 300D
That causes
ep 2013 21:25:08 -0400
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running an alternator with no battery was a great
way to kill an alternator...
-Curt
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 21:25:08 -0400
From: "Gerry Archer"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D
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The (bad?) battery still starts the car, so I'll use it for starting. The
jumpers will only carry the current from the alternator to the good battery
and vice versa.
From: "Michael Canfield"
If you are saying you are going to use your jumper cables in between the
240 battery and the 300 cables
attery for excitation of its
field windings, and a battery with a high resistance cell will normally
cause the alternator to not charge.
From: Fmiser
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D
hat's at the
root of your charging issue.
From: Gerry Archer
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D
I do have heavy cables but won't be using them to start the 300D. I'll
sta
- Original Message -
From: "Richard Hattaway"
Yep, slipsies might introduce more questions than answers. Just make the
240D bare posts, and set up the jumpers. If you get 13.7 when the 300 D is
running, then look at the battery in the 300D closer.
You really don't have to disconnect th
I was under the impression running an alternator with no battery was a great
way to kill an alternator...
-Curt
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 21:25:08 -0400
From: "Gerry Archer"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question
Gerry wrote:
Can someone tell me where the wire from the buss to the battery
connects to the positive battery cable so I can check it's
continuity and clean the connection?
Better - or more accurate - than measuring continuity is to measure
voltage drop. After starting the engine (so the bat
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From: "Craig"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D
On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 23:37:46 -0400 "Gerry Archer"
wrote:
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ince I've looked
at one.
From: Craig
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D
On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 23:37:46 -0400 "Gerry Archer"
wrote:
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with a high resistance cell will normally cause
the alternator to not charge.
From: Fmiser
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D
> Richard wrote:
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> In fact, what
On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 23:37:46 -0400 "Gerry Archer"
wrote:
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> What I thought about doing was putting the jumpers between the
> batteries just like I was jumpstarting the car. Then I start the car
> with the questionable battery/alternator. Leaving the negative jumpe
sion List
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D
I do have heavy cables but won't be using them to start the 300D. I'll
start the 300D with its battery and then disconnect it and hook the 300D
cables to the jumpers and the othe
From: "Peter Frederick"
Don't do this, you are likely to blow the diodes in the alternator by
running it without the battery connected!
If you want to see if it charges the other battery, install the battery
in the car.
If the battery boiled out, even one cell, either it was charging at
On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 21:23:28 -0500 Peter Frederick
wrote:
> Don't do this, you are likely to blow the diodes in the alternator by
> running it without the battery connected!
What he said.
If you run the car with the battery disconnected, you are likely to
damage your alternator.
Craig
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Don't do this, you are likely to blow the diodes in the alternator by
running it without the battery connected!
If you want to see if it charges the other battery, install the
battery in the car.
If the battery boiled out, even one cell, either it was charging at
far too high a voltage, w
I do have heavy cables but won't be using them to start the 300D. I'll
start the 300D with its battery and then disconnect it and hook the 300D
cables to the jumpers and the other end of the jumpers to the disconnected
240D battery. There will probably be a voltage drop but I should be able to
> Gerry wrote:
>
> Can someone tell me where the wire from the buss to the battery
> connects to the positive battery cable so I can check it's
> continuity and clean the connection?
Better - or more accurate - than measuring continuity is to measure
voltage drop. After starting the engine (so t
> Richard wrote:
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> In fact, what will probably happen is the alternator will begin
> charging the newly introduced battery since the questionable one
> was run dry, thus has a high resistance cell eliminating the
> ability for the battery to be charged by the alternator.
If the battery has hig
got nowhere other than the cables got warm. Got another set of wimpy cables
from somebody else and waited around when the second set was warm too the car
started...
-Curt
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 14:04:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Richard Hattaway
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Al
If you are saying you are going to use your jumper cables in between the
240 battery and the 300 cables and starter yhen you better have a big set
of cables. Like welding cable. Otherwise you will burn them up and not
answer your question. Better to just swap out the batteries and see if the
iss
That's a good idea, Richard. I'll put the 240D and the 300D side by side
and jumper with all the cables off. I know the 240D battery is good.
Batteries are both group 49.
Thanks,
Gerry
From: "Richard Hattaway"
Like everybody else has said, please change the battery before you go to all
that
ot another set of wimpy cables
from somebody else and waited around when the second set was warm too the car
started...
-Curt
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 14:04:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Richard Hattaway
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D
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From: Gerry Archer
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D
Thanks to Rick, Richard, and Loren for your advice; and to Fred for the
connector which arrived in good order. Going to wire it up an
ld
comment about burning up cables, etc. Someone here might think you know what
you're talking about.
From: Michael Canfield
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D
I would be on top of getting that battery exchanged first. If only one
cell boiled dry it may be defective and damaging regulators somehow
Mike
On Sep 3, 2013 10:29 AM, "Gerry Archer" wrote:
> Thanks to Rick, Richard, and Loren for your advice; and to Fred for the
> connector which arrived
What Mike said.
If one cell boils, the battery (of cells) is dead.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.
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> From: Michael Canfield
>To: Mercedes Discussion List
>Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 11:04 AM
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator qu
Thanks to Rick, Richard, and Loren for your advice; and to Fred for the
connector which arrived in good order. Going to wire it up and try it
again. If the connector wasn't the problem, will put a good regulator in
and try it. If that doesn't work, will chuck the 3 used alternators in the
drill
Answers among the questions
From: Gerry Archer
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 9:00 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D
Sorry to interrupt this ongoing discussion about Rusty and Trent and Gary,
but I h
Gerry wrote:
>Also, where is the ground strap from the frame to the engine/transmission?
Under the drivers side.
Here is a picture.
http://db.tt/6tliKmON
Rick Knoble
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Sorry to interrupt this ongoing discussion about Rusty and Trent and Gary,
but I have a question about the alternator on my '83 300D.
There are three wires coming out of the alternator. Service Manual SM-1243
shows that the two heavy wires, same color, are common inside the
alternator. It al
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