[MBZ] 1987 300TD

2005-09-16 Thread Christopher McCann
Are these things hard to find, or am I looking in all the wrong places? Wife is gettting tired of feeding the gas hog Sienna and has been ASKING for a diesel wagon with 3rd seat (!!). Better not let this opportunity pass up. Any really important reasons to get a W123 over the '87 version? This is

[MBZ] 1987 300td

2009-06-10 Thread andrew strasfogel
This car seems almost perfect yet the price is still really low. Didn't Marshall say this was the best diesel wagon of all time? I don't get it. Why are the older 123 wagons pricier? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-must-see-300-TD-300TD-TURBO-DIESEL-WAGON-RARE-RUNS-DRIVES

[MBZ] 1987 300TD

2008-03-19 Thread Timothy Robinson
Not really sure the issues with this car: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The owner is a good guy I talked to on the phone was interested in one of my cars. Instead, he bought a sweet little '86 190D from my indie. I encouraged him, "David", to check out the list here, join and maybe discuss the issues with

[MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-06-27 Thread Kevin Kraly
I called on the ‘87 300TD that Alex posted to the list. The buyer is waiting for a call from an interested party by tomorrow morning one way or the other. Two people did that to me when I had my 240D up for sale and never called back! I’ll be looking at it tomorrow morning if the person flake

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD

2005-09-16 Thread Mitch Haley
Christopher McCann wrote: > Any really important reasons to get a W123 over the > '87 version? 123 are easier to find. > THink the mileage would be better too, no? 124 should get better mpg than 123. More power too. > Any particular problems with the 87 300TD? Plugged trap oxidizer, crack

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD

2005-09-16 Thread Zeitgeist
Quite nearly the most perfect vehicle ever made--I'm not alone with that assessment. There really is no direct comparison between an S123 and S124, both are great cars, but they're vastly different animals. Weak points for the S124 are the head (prone to cracking), climate control system (parts a

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD

2005-09-16 Thread Rick Knoble
st. Good luck and if I see one in any of my searches I will post it. Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD - Original Message - From: "Christopher McCann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 3:24 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Are these thing

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD

2005-09-16 Thread Kevin
On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 01:24:24PM -0700, Christopher McCann wrote: > Are these things hard to find, or am I looking in all > the wrong places? Wife is gettting tired of feeding > the gas hog Sienna and has been ASKING for a diesel > wagon with 3rd seat (!!). Better not let this > opportunity pass

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD

2005-09-16 Thread Rick Knoble
Original Message - From: "Christopher McCann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 3:24 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Are these things hard to find, or am I looking in all the wrong places? Wife is gettting tired of feeding the ga

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD

2005-09-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Dan has one I think he would sell, ask him on the biodiesel list. Christopher McCann wrote: Are these things hard to find, or am I looking in all the wrong places? Wife is gettting tired of feeding the gas hog Sienna and has been ASKING for a diesel wagon with 3rd seat (!!). Better not let this

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD

2005-09-17 Thread Bill Gallagher
http://worldclassmotorcars.com/index.htm TOP DOLLAR asked but showroom condition . Must call, no replay by e-mail .no 300 TD Listed as of 9/16/05 Bill 1981 300 TD Christopher McCann wrote: Are these things hard to find, or am I looking in all the wrong places? Wife is gettting tired

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD

2005-09-17 Thread John M McIntosh
Depending on where you are looking it can be hard to find and expensive, it took me a year of looking before tripping over the 92 euro I have. The w124 body is well wonderful, tracking and steering are rock solid, the w123 tends to require steering correcting (minor & automatic yet differ

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD

2005-09-17 Thread John M McIntosh
Lets see the top three have those interesting prices that say there are none in this region, good luck, seller sets the price point. However the one at trinityfarms has been for sale for a *long* time (years?), never did respond to my email, or attempts to contact. The Burgundy one, like those

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD

2005-09-17 Thread Marshall Booth
Christopher McCann wrote: Are these things hard to find, or am I looking in all the wrong places? Fewer than 2400 300TD turbos were manufactured and sold worldwide in 1987 and '87 was the ONLY year the 124.193 300TD turbo was brought to North America and some of those went to (and are still i

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD

2005-09-17 Thread Steve MacSween
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Mmm did see > 1984 MERCEDES-BENZ 300CD TURBO DIESEL, 2dr, 217857kms, Beige, > Automatic, All Equipped, Leather Interior, Sunroof, in mint > condition,very rare model $15,800.00 2205 E.HASTINGS ST. > VANCOUVER.WWW.JJ MOTORCARS.COM 2205 E.HASTINGS ST. VANCOUVER.WWW.JJ > M

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD

2005-09-17 Thread Peter Frederick
These things are a scarce as hen's teeth, but if you find one, they are very nice. the only real problems they have other than cracking head (which doesn't appear to be a problem in the 5 cylinder later models) is a very high rate of fail evaporators on the AC -- my TE blew out, the DT is sti

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD

2005-09-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The wagon was never available with a diesel except for 87. Peter Frederick wrote: These things are a scarce as hen's teeth, but if you find one, they are very nice. the only real problems they have other than cracking head (which doesn't appear to be a problem in the 5 cylinder later models)

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD

2005-09-18 Thread John M McIntosh
S, you'll hurt the feeling of the 1992 300TDt sitting in the driveway. Mind since I"m in Canada it's a bit easier to get such vehicles into our country versus the paranoid USA. PS the 92 has the new w124 body style cladding and as of 05/91 they introduced lots of engineering changes to

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD

2005-09-18 Thread Peter Frederick
Kaleb: Yes, it was, I've seen several 300TD 2.5L in Evansville alone. Same years as the sedan diesels. Quite rare compared to 300e sedans, and even the TE isn't very common. Peter

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD

2005-09-18 Thread Marshall Booth
The ONLY year that a 124 diesel wagon was imported to the US by MBUSA was 1987. Any 124 TD diesel in the US wagon other than an '87 with the OM603.96 engine is a gray market car. There were lots of 124 diesel wagons sold in other parts of the world - with OM601, 602 and 603 engines - some turbo bu

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD

2005-09-18 Thread George Gregory
Kaleb doesn't realize there is a world outside of Claremore On 9/18/05 12:16 AM, "John M McIntosh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > S, you'll hurt the feeling of the 1992 300TDt sitting in the > driveway. > Mind since I"m in Canada it's a bit easier to get such vehicles into > our country vers

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD

2005-09-18 Thread Jeff Zedic
John, Let me know when you want to sell that baby! Hopefully it's a 5 speed.yesno? Do you know of anyone else has one of those for sale?? Jeff Zedic Toronto

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD

2005-09-18 Thread John M McIntosh
Hah, it's an automatic, did I mention it has heated orthopaedic seats? It's NOT for sale. Let's see what the paper holds 1987 MERCEDES stn wgn 230T 4 cyl standard, mint, no accidents $7,300. 250-598-2389 {If this is a blue one it's been in the paper off and on for many many months} They c

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD

2005-09-18 Thread Jeff Zedic
Yes it looks like a diesel. It's just a non turbo that's all. It also has the old style SLS pump on the head instead of a tandem ps pump/SLS. Maybe it doesn't have power steering They also have a BMW (ugh) 324 station wagon. Nice looking but no good at all for loading because the tailgate

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD

2005-09-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
It is normally assumed that we are talking about US car unless otherwise specified. As I said, there were no other diesel 124 wagons except for the 87. That was talking about US car. George Gregory wrote: Kaleb doesn't realize there is a world outside of Claremore On 9/18/05 12:16 AM, "

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300td

2009-06-10 Thread WILTON
Wow! And only 265.5 kmi! BTW, those "leather" seats look exactly like my MB tex ones. ;<))) Wilton - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:34 AM Subject: [MBZ] 1987 300td

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300td

2009-06-10 Thread E M
ilton > - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" < > astrasfo...@gmail.com> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:34 AM > Subject: [MBZ] 1987 300td > > > > This car seems almost perfect yet the price i

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300td

2009-06-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
low now but the bidding wont really start till the last few minutes andrew strasfogel wrote: This car seems almost perfect yet the price is still really low. Didn't Marshall say this was the best diesel wagon of all time? I don't get it. Why are the older 123 wagons pricier? http://cgi.ebay.c

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300td

2009-06-10 Thread dave walton
It's a steal at $4K. I predict it will go over $6K. -Dave Walton On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > low now but the bidding wont really start till the last few minutes > > andrew strasfogel wrote: >> >> This car seems almost perfect yet the price is still really low.  D

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300td

2009-06-10 Thread WILTON
kmi = thousand miles, doesn't it? ;<)) Wilton - Original Message - From: "E M" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300td Yeah, and the driver's seat shows you, even benz tex doesn

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300td

2009-06-10 Thread E M
yes, it does, when I'm wearing my glasses. ;-) lol Ed 300E 2009/6/10 WILTON > kmi = thousand miles, doesn't it? ;<)) > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "E M" > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300td

2009-06-10 Thread winmutt
Some people have low opinions about mercedes with plastic bumpers :D I andrew strasfogel wrote: This car seems almost perfect yet the price is still really low. Didn't Marshall say this was the best diesel wagon of all time? I don't get it. Why are the older 123 wagons pricier? http://cgi.eb

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300td

2009-06-10 Thread andrew strasfogel
I already have two w123 wagons. They are fun if challenging to work on, and the parts are still available and reasonably priced. Still, the 1987 looks pretty clean in the photos, although the color combination is beyond (beneath?) BORING. On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 4:18 PM, winmutt wrote: > Som

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300td

2009-06-10 Thread WILTON
x27;t make any one of them any more "right" than another. Wilton - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300td I already have two w123 wagons. They

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300td

2009-06-10 Thread Hendrik & Fay
It does not appear to have the rear seat option which is a handy thing to have in a wagon. Hendrik who just fits into the kiddie seats up the back andrew strasfogel wrote: This car seems almost perfect yet the price is still really low. Didn't Marshall say this was the best diesel wagon of al

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300td

2009-06-12 Thread andrew strasfogel
Somebody STOLE this car. This is what happens if you don't have a reserve price. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-must-see-300-TD-300TD-TURBO-DIESEL-WAGON-RARE-RUNS-DRIVES-GREAT_W0QQitemZ190312598228QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item2c4f83cad4&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300td

2009-06-12 Thread E M
As they say, it's only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. The seller got true market value for the car. I'm sure all his friends told him the car was worth twice as much, but I bet none of them reached for their chequebooks to back up their claims. hee hee. Ed 300E, which I'm sure is a

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300td

2009-06-12 Thread Kevin Slater
Unless you're the one that bought and can speak from first hand experience, I wouldn't go as far as saying that was a steal. I have an 87 that looked better in photos than when I got there. Had the faulty / failing head to boot. (Since been replaced though.) ...Kevin On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:53

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300td

2009-06-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
No, thats just what the market is for them right now. andrew strasfogel wrote: Somebody STOLE this car. This is what happens if you don't have a reserve price. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-must-see-300-TD-300TD-TURBO-DIESEL-WAGON-RARE-RUNS-DRIVES-GREAT_W0QQitemZ19031

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300td

2009-06-12 Thread Hendrik & Fay
So how come that 85 TD got a bid of over 7K? Hendrik spending big on ebay Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: No, thats just what the market is for them right now. andrew strasfogel wrote: Somebody STOLE this car. This is what happens if you don't have a reserve price. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300td

2009-06-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
because sometimes people are on crack and bid way too much. Hendrik & Fay wrote: So how come that 85 TD got a bid of over 7K? Hendrik spending big on ebay Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: No, thats just what the market is for them right now. andrew strasfogel wrote: Somebody STOLE this car. This is

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300td

2009-06-13 Thread andrew strasfogel
But generally, the w123 turbodiesel wagons are more desirable right now vs. the 87 W124 turbo. Why is that? On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > because sometimes people are on crack and bid way too much. > > > Hendrik & Fay wrote: > >> So how come that 85 TD got a bid of

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300td

2009-06-13 Thread Hendrik & Fay
So the people using illegal substances like the 123 as opposed to the 124? I think we all know that in most regards the 124 is a superior chassis but I guess if you are high on something. Hendrik who doesn't do hard drugs Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: because sometimes people are on crack

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300td

2009-06-13 Thread Curt Raymond
23 is ahead in cool and simplicity. I like 'em both but for different reasons. -Curt Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:45:07 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300td To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID:     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" But

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300td

2009-06-13 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 8:56 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300td At a guess I'd say its because many people buy cars strictly on looks... W123 cars look more vintage than 124. Owning a 123 and a 201 at the same time I can tell you that while my 201 is

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300td

2009-06-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
says who? andrew strasfogel wrote: But generally, the w123 turbodiesel wagons are more desirable right now vs. the 87 W124 turbo. Why is that? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300td

2009-06-13 Thread Mitch Haley
Hendrik & Fay wrote: So the people using illegal substances like the 123 as opposed to the 124? The Hempcar was a S123. I actually thought about buying it, but the paint job would not be politically correct where I live, the idiots had driven it cross country without fixing the SLS problems,

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300td

2009-06-13 Thread Hendrik & Fay
the veggie oil crowd I guess. Hendrik Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: says who? andrew strasfogel wrote: But generally, the w123 turbodiesel wagons are more desirable right now vs. the 87 W124 turbo. Why is that? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300td

2009-06-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If that is the case its probably because the 617 can take slightly more abuse that those "folks" dish out to them before they blow up (the engines that is) Hendrik & Fay wrote: the veggie oil crowd I guess. Hendrik -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4M

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300td

2009-06-13 Thread Gary Hurst
123 wagons carry collector status in the US. 124s dont' On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Hendrik & Fay wrote: > So how come that 85 TD got a bid of over 7K? > > Hendrik > spending big on ebay > > Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > >> No, thats just what the market is for them right now. >> >> andrew str

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD

2008-03-20 Thread Mitch Haley
Timothy Robinson wrote: > > Not really sure the issues with this car: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] I did a search for ad number 611797484 and came up blank. If he's pulled the ad, will the Craigslist email addy still work? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-06-28 Thread Max Dillon
Congrats! Also look for worn suspension. If the rear wheels lean in at the top, price in replacing the control arms. Problem 1 is usually easy. Problem 2 is a new one, I'd suspect the stalk. Agree on 3. 4 is easy too. AC might be pricey! Head casting is above #2 injector. Kevin Kraly wro

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-06-28 Thread Dieselhead
I called on the '87 300TD that Alex posted to the list. The buyer is waiting for a call from an interested party by tomorrow morning one way or the other. Two people did that to me when I had my 240D up for sale and never called back! I'll be looking at it tomorrow morning if the person flak

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-06-28 Thread Dan Penoff
I would be concerned about the AC having a leaky evaporator. Not sure if this is an issue in your part of the world. Dan On Jun 27, 2012, at 11:53 PM, "Kevin Kraly" wrote: > I called on the ‘87 300TD that Alex posted to the list. The buyer is waiting > for a call from an interested party by

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-06-28 Thread Jim Cathey
1. a window motor out: How difficult is S124 window motor replacement? The replacement motor is included with the sale. Who diagnosed it? Motor is most reliable part of the system, before that come switch, regulator, and hinge wire problems. No real difficulty change, unless it's the switch.

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-06-28 Thread Allan Streib
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012, at 08:53 PM, Kevin Kraly wrote: > I called on the ‘87 300TD that Alex posted to the list. The buyer is waiting > for a call from an interested party by tomorrow Common tactic to try to get you to make a higher offer. Someone else is interested. > 1. a window motor out:

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-06-28 Thread Allan Streib
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012, at 06:48 AM, Dieselhead wrote: > I did a writeup that is in the archives somewhere abut how to take a > junkyard japanese car AC compressor and turn it into a 80s vintage MB > compressor. Hm I'll have to hunt for that. Any idea if it would also apply to a late '70s W116 OM

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-06-28 Thread Dieselhead
I think you have the MB GM compressor. If so: Nope! entirely different. Mixed arguments about GM compressors. Some say only a new one from Q because a GM GM compressor won't lube mounted in an MB. (upside down.) Others claim they have used GM GM compressors in place of MB GM compressor b

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-06-28 Thread Allan Streib
Yeah it's a GM. What's the "modification" that lets you use a standard GM not the special upside-down version?? Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> writes: > I think you have the MB GM compressor. If so: Nope! entirely > different. Mixed arguments about GM compressors. Some say only a > new o

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-06-28 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jun 28, 2012 6:43 AM, "Allan Streib" wrote: >Kevin wrote: >> >> 1. a window motor out: How >> difficult is S124 window motor >> replacement? The replacement >> motor is included with the sale. > > If it was easy, current owner would > have done it?? > Depends on your definition of "easy." F

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-06-28 Thread Rick Knoble
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012, at 08:53 PM, Kevin Kraly wrote: >> 1. a window motor out: How difficult is S124 window motor replacement? The >> replacement motor is included with the sale. > On Jun 28, 2012, at 8:43 AM, "Allan Streib" replied: > If it was easy, current owner would have done it?? No

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-06-28 Thread Kevin Slater
Answers inline below. On Jun 27, 2012 11:54 PM, "Kevin Kraly" wrote: > > I called on the ‘87 300TD that Alex posted to the list. The buyer is waiting for a call from an interested party by tomorrow morning one way or the other. Two people did that to me when I had my 240D up for sale and never

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-06-28 Thread Kevin Kraly
I closed the deal on the 300TD! , $1300 and some paperwork later, we hit the highway! The bad news was that the AC condenser and compressor have been removed, so if I want to keep it long term and put it all back, it could be expensive. It doesn't have a fan shrowd either. The engine started

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-06-28 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Sounds like a good deal. Btw all 124 wagons have the 3rd seat Sent from my iPhone On Jun 28, 2012, at 6:03 PM, "Kevin Kraly" wrote: > I closed the deal on the 300TD! , $1300 and some paperwork later, we hit the > highway! The bad news was that the AC condenser and compressor have been > rem

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-06-28 Thread Mountain Man
Rick wrote: > Not necessarily so. Roughly 20% of the population are chronic procrastinators > and we sometimes struggle to accomplish very simple tasks. I am getting much > better about it... > I don't think you should be proud of getting better at your procrastinator skills. That's what it loo

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-06-28 Thread Max Dillon
Congrats again! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okie

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-06-28 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jun 28, 2012 7:02 PM, "Max Dillon" wrote: > > Congrats again! > -- Ditto. I'm a little worried about the transmission needing more than just vacuum work but other than that it sounds like Kevin made a pretty good score. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-06-28 Thread Dave Walton
Please keep the list informed with what you find and what you do to the vehicle. I've been wanting to get one of those for a while. Congrats! -Dave Walton On Jun 28, 2012, at 7:03 PM, "Kevin Kraly" wrote: > I closed the deal on the 300TD! , $1300 and some paperwork later, we hit the > high

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-06-28 Thread Max Dillon
I'd say change the fluid and filter, use M1 ATF, and let that work for 10k miles. That cleaned up / improved my wagons transmission behavior immensely. Alex Chamberlain wrote: >On Jun 28, 2012 7:02 PM, "Max Dillon" >wrote: >> >> Congrats again! >> -- > >Ditto. I'm a little worried about the

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-06-28 Thread Dave Walton
If the fluid you drain is in really bad shape, consider doing a few changes with cheap ATF on 1-2k mile intervals before you use M1. That's only if you can drain the torque converter too. On that car you can. -Dave Walton On Jun 28, 2012, at 10:39 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > I'd say change the

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-06-28 Thread Mitch Haley
Kevin Kraly wrote: I closed the deal on the 300TD! , $1300 and some paperwork later, we hit the highway! The bad news was that the AC condenser and compressor have been removed, so if I want to keep it long term and put it all back, it could be expensive. Try to pick up a 300E parts car for

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-06-28 Thread Dieselhead
If the fluid you drain is in really bad shape, consider doing a few changes with cheap ATF on 1-2k mile intervals before you use M1. That's only if you can drain the torque converter too. On that car you can. -Dave Walton On Jun 28, 2012, at 10:39 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > I'd say change th

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-06-28 Thread Peter Frederick
More to the point, before you install new AC parts, get a filter installed in the suction line. That way you won't get crud from the wiped out compressor in the new one and blow it. Do not buy a Four Seasons rebuiltd either -- they often have sandblast material in the inlet according to m

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-07-02 Thread Kevin Slater
You CAN drain the torque converter(s?), but it's a total pain in the neck. On Jun 28, 2012 10:54 PM, "Dave Walton" wrote: > If the fluid you drain is in really bad shape, consider doing a few > changes with cheap ATF on 1-2k mile intervals before you use M1. That's > only if you can drain the to

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-07-02 Thread Kevin Slater
Yes! Congratulations! Ever since I heard the list extol about the engine in that wagon, I wanted one. Loved mine while I had it. Ended up trading it to an artist for a Vespa and some cash. Now I need to get the Vespa on the road! On Jun 28, 2012 10:02 PM, "Max Dillon" wrote: > Congrats again! > -

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-07-02 Thread Dave Walton
There is only one torque converter. Turn the crankshaft until the recessed hex plug is visible through the bottom window and have at it. As long as you remember to remove your socket wrench from the bottom crank bolt before starting the vehicle you will be fine. "Transmission service" sold by

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-07-02 Thread Allan Streib
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012, at 09:43 AM, Kevin Slater wrote: > You CAN drain the torque converter(s?), but it's a total pain in the neck. Not if they have a drain plug, which most of the older ones do. Not sure when this stopped being the norm, I'd guess when they developed "lifetime" sealed transmi

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-07-02 Thread Dan Penoff
It's not that difficult. You just need to remove the cover plate and bar the engine over until the hex plug lines up with the opening. You're only getting about half the fluid out if you don't drain the converter. Dan On Jul 2, 2012, at 11:28 AM, Allan Streib wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012, a

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-07-02 Thread Kevin Slater
On Jun 29, 2012 9:43 AM, "Kevin Slater" wrote: > You CAN drain the torque converter(s?), but it's a total pain in the neck. > On Jun 28, 2012 10:54 PM, "Dave Walton" wrote: > >> If the fluid you drain is in really bad shape, consider doing a few >> changes with cheap ATF on 1-2k mile intervals

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-07-03 Thread Kevin Kraly
Good news about the transmission, it was low on fluid! It seems to be crisper off the line, and shifting/hanging on upshifts is much better! It seems to have a PS fluid leak as well. I know that this has the tandem ps/sls pump. Can one circuit leak into the other? Another minor problem I f

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-07-04 Thread Dieselhead
My 87 D, TD, and SDL all have drain plus as did the 88 TE, On Fri, Jun 29, 2012, at 09:43 AM, Kevin Slater wrote: You CAN drain the torque converter(s?), but it's a total pain in the neck. Not if they have a drain plug, which most of the older ones do. Not sure when this stopped being th

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-07-04 Thread Dieselhead
Can, but most of the PS leaks are the low pressure return line weeping. On one 124, the steering arm seal on the steering gearbox leaked. Good news about the transmission, it was low on fluid! It seems to be crisper off the line, and shifting/hanging on upshifts is much better! It seems t

[MBZ] 1987 300TD on ebay

2011-08-01 Thread andrew strasfogel
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-Mercedes-Benz-300TD-turbo-diesel-wagon-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4aad399502QQitemZ320733811970QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search lis

[MBZ] 1987 300TD wagon for sale

2006-05-04 Thread Gary Thompson
Saw this on CL, thought some of you wagon nuts, i mean aficionados, might be interested. http://austin.craigslist.org/car/157070300.html Gary Thompson Georgetown, TX 1995 E320

[MBZ] 1987 300TD - 297k miles - $350

2021-07-16 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Appears like it might be a solid body. Color looks good with the tinted windows. But a lot of work to be done here https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/d/tacoma-1987-mercedes-300td-wagon/7351944230.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

[MBZ] 1987 300TD - 146k miles - $8,800

2021-11-14 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Looks nice, wish it had more close up pics of the typical rust areas. Weird that it's near Columbus OH but the Craigslist URL is for Los Angeles. https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/cto/d/grove-city-mercedes-300td-wagon-turbo/7407989709.html Allan ___ http:/

[MBZ] 1987 300TD Wagon in Portland, OR

2005-11-05 Thread kevin kraly
I happened to spot this one on Craigslist, and it seems like a KILLER deal! 200K miles, white ext with blue int, only $5400! If it doesn't have a #14 head or the W124 sunroof problem, someone is going to have a very nice car! http://portland.craigslist.org/car/108994503.html Do the W124 wagon

[MBZ] 1987 300TD - final chance - #22 head

2010-04-01 Thread Kevin Slater
Ok, it's Spring and I need to clean out things that are no longer in use. I have a 300 TD that I've mentioned before. My intent would be for someone to take it that has a need for the parts, particularly the head, which is a #22 head. Or maybe someone that doesn't mind a project car that might take

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD - 297k miles - $350

2021-07-16 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
That didn't last long. Not surprising I guess. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD - 297k miles - $350

2021-07-19 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
124s are heating up. Kinda knew they would. On Fri, Jul 16, 2021, 3:25 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > That didn't last long. > Not surprising I guess. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebe

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD - 297k miles - $350

2021-07-19 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
From the news today, everything that rolls is heating up. On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 5:26 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > 124s are heating up. Kinda knew they would. > > On Fri, Jul 16, 2021, 3:25 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Th

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD - 297k miles - $350

2021-07-22 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Or flies. But I did manage to find a decent deal on a 140 by surfing the comments on facebook posts. Everything for sale on barnstormers etc is just cuckoo asking prices. On Mon, Jul 19, 2021, 4:24 PM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > From the news today, everything that rolls is heating up. > > On M

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD - 146k miles - $8,800

2021-11-15 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
On 2021-11-15 00:59, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Looks nice, wish it had more close up pics of the typical rust areas. Weird that it's near Columbus OH but the Craigslist URL is for Los Angeles. https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/d/seattle-mercedes-300td-wagon-turbo/7407995247.html

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Wagon in Portland, OR

2005-11-06 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Hey, I have a matching '87 white/blue sedan. Maybe I should check it out. Power sunroof, not manual. I'd be less concerned about the sunroom, though, than the evaporator or anything else wrong with the A/C. As Marshall likes to say, a #14 head on a 603 is not a guarantee of failure. But nor is

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Wagon in Portland, OR

2005-11-06 Thread kevin kraly
I have a matching '87 white/blue sedan. Maybe I should check it out. It would look perfect in your driveway! Go for it! Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon without an MB diesel 2003 Dodge Cummins diesel pickup, 24K miles, THE TRUCK!

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD - final chance - #22 head

2010-04-01 Thread Rich Thomas
Max ought to buy that -- how much you want for it? He is headed up north soon, should stop by and tow it home. --R On 4/1/2010 9:49 AM, Kevin Slater wrote: Ok, it's Spring and I need to clean out things that are no longer in use. I have a 300 TD that I've mentioned before. My intent would be

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD - final chance - #22 head

2010-04-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Damn, wish it was closer. What town are you in? Kevin Slater wrote: Ok, it's Spring and I need to clean out things that are no longer in use. I have a 300 TD that I've mentioned before. My intent would be for someone to take it that has a need for the parts, particularly the head, which is a #22

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD - final chance - #22 head

2010-04-05 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
al Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 10:24 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD - final chance - #22 head Max ought to buy that -- how much you want for it? He is

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD - final chance - #22 head

2010-04-05 Thread Ed Booher
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: > -Max (who STILL has a project in the garage getting on SWMBO's nerve) Don't we all? EdB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To sea

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD - final chance - #22 head

2010-04-05 Thread Rick Knoble
-Max (who STILL has a project in the garage getting on SWMBO's nerve) Heck, I've got projects older than some people on this list. I've thought about getting Kaleb to start a procrastination help email list, but I've been putting it off... Rick ___ htt

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