On Apr 19, 2012, at 7:15 AM, "Jaime Kopchinski" wrote:
> Replacing whats in the reservoir is quick and easy, so its nice to make it
> part of a normal service.
Especially with a topsider. :-)
Rick
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I guess you could "loose" all of the ball bearings in the steering gear, as in
"set loose".
Dan
On Apr 19, 2012, at 7:56 AM, Max wrote:
> Dan Penoff wrote:
>
>> Loosing?
>>
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> Loosing is one of Rich's favorite technical terms! ;)
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> Charleston SC
> '95 E300, '87 300TD
All that stuff is new -- I rebuilt the whole front suspension and links.
Looks like the various suggestions might add up to just living with the
problem for now. I asked the Benz shop that did the alignment what they
recommended for the slop, he said after it all settled in for a week or
two
Great info Barry,
Thanks!
Jaime
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 3:11 AM, Barry Stark wrote:
> Jamie -
> I believe that self adjusting is a bit of a misnomer. What happens in that
> later box is that there is a spring loaded plunger pushing against the
> working piston so if there is some slop you can't
Good question... last time I did this I don't recall getting much fluid.
I'll check again.
Replacing whats in the reservoir is quick and easy, so its nice to make it
part of a normal service.
Jaime
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Max wrote:
> Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
>
> >Until it looks cle
Dan Penoff wrote:
>Loosing?
>
>
Loosing is one of Rich's favorite technical terms! ;)
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Loosing?
On Apr 18, 2012, at 10:53 PM, Max wrote:
> Rich, what's wrong with a reseal without loosing the balls (like the website
> posted a few days ago)? That was done on a 126 box.
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Jamie -
I believe that self adjusting is a bit of a misnomer. What happens in that
later box is that there is a spring loaded plunger pushing against the
working piston so if there is some slop you can't feel it. Generally the box
can develop lash between the gear teeth on the working piston and th
Check the tie rods and drag link -- likely they are worn out as
well. Makes an amazing difference to replace them.
Should have been caught by the alignment shop, though.
Peter
On Apr 18, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:
OK the SD is all finished, I had to replace LF brake caliper as one
Rich, what's wrong with a reseal without loosing the balls (like the website
posted a few days ago)? That was done on a 126 box.
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Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
>Until it looks clean, yes... it takes some time to flush out 30 year
>old
>fluid!
>
Why not change all the fluid at once by draining the box via the port for the
locking screw? I've done it that way, just takes some time to work the air out.
Another method is to route
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 20:18:05 -0400 Jaime Kopchinski
wrote:
> I generally suck out what I can and replace it every time I change the
> oil. I keep a gallon of generic ATF on hand just for this purpose.
The generic ATF would be suitable for a W123, but doesn't one need to use
the special steering
Certainly could be... its been a few years since my last W126.
Jaime
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:30 PM, David Bruckmann <
bruckma...@transcontinental.ca> wrote:
> The later (W126 and newer) boxes use a spring loaded gear. A simple
> solution that reduces the box slop and prevents early wear cause
Sure, the reservoir only holds like a cup and its ATF so a change is like $1.
-Curt
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 17:23:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dimitri Seretakis
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop
Message-ID:
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Loosen the lock nut, turn the adjuster screw COUNTERclockwise
(loosen) 1/4 turn and try it on the road. It will take several
adjustments to get it right. sometimes 1/8 turn is enough. If you
get it too tight (Loosen the adjuster too much) you can tell by
noise and handling. Then just revers
The later (W126 and newer) boxes use a spring loaded gear. A simple solution
that reduces the box slop and prevents early wear caused by lack of timely
adjustment. But it also means that when the box is worn out, it really is worn
out.
I can't see why adjustment would ever be necessary except a
Its true the box is somehow self adjusting in the W126 (from 08/81, so MY
1982), but the manual still states that adjustment is possible.
See:
http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/12253/program/Chassis/46-110.pdf
and
http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/12253/program/Chassis/46-480.pd
Ok. I got it now. Thanks for the tip!
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On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:49 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
Until it looks clean, yes... it takes some time to flush out 30 year old
fluid!
Jaime
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
Whoa! You replace the PS fluid at ev
Roads are "crowned" so water runs off. So your car will drift right in USA or
left in OZ.
Rick
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On Apr 18, 2012, at 7:37 PM, "Allan Streib" wrote:
> Why a slight drift to one side? Don't you want it to track absolutely
> straight?
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Versus the W123 (and prior) is NOT self-adjusting, hence the need to do so
occasionally.
I'd be careful with a 126. If it is loose, it is probably the coupler, or the
box is shot.
D.
At 5:12 PM -0700 4/18/12, David Bruckmann wrote:
>On a 126 SD, the box is self-adjusting. Are you absolutely s
Until it looks clean, yes... it takes some time to flush out 30 year old
fluid!
Jaime
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
> Whoa! You replace the PS fluid at every oil change?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:18 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
>
> Yes, when y
Hendrik & Fay writes:
> Proper alignment is important, to ensure the car drives straight with
> a slight movement to the right for you and left for us.
Why a slight drift to one side? Don't you want it to track absolutely
straight?
Allan
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Whoa! You replace the PS fluid at every oil change?
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On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:18 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
Yes, when you reach the point that the adjustment screw won't back out
anymore, its time to rebuild/replace the box. I've only experienced this
once after owning dozens
Yes, when you reach the point that the adjustment screw won't back out
anymore, its time to rebuild/replace the box. I've only experienced this
once after owning dozens of these cars. You can usually adjust it to be
perfect or at least acceptable.
There is a factory procedure for adjusting the b
So when should a steering box be replaced? Is there a time when you just can't
adjust out the slop?
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On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:01 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
Its pretty straight forward to adjust the box... I do it all the time, as
recently as last night on a 83 300D. Heres the
On a 126 SD, the box is self-adjusting. Are you absolutely sure the flex
coupler is solid (ie. you need to check it with resistance, not with the front
wheels in the air).
Rich Thomas wrote:
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>I am thinking the steering box needs to be adjusted
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Its pretty straight forward to adjust the box... I do it all the time, as
recently as last night on a 83 300D. Heres the method in detail:
Start with a 19mm socket and a long set of extensions to reach the adjuster
nut. Loosen the nut with a breaker bar or ratchet just a bit... maybe
1/4-1/2 tur
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Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop
There is supposed to be a little bit of play in the steering, over
adjusting the steering box may well lead to premature wear and/or locking
of the box at full turn.
Proper
There is supposed to be a little bit of play in the steering, over
adjusting the steering box may well lead to premature wear and/or
locking of the box at full turn.
Proper alignment is important, to ensure the car drives straight with a
slight movement to the right for you and left for us.
He
When I did my front end rebuild all was well except for the steering slop. I
just tighten up the adjustment screw a bit and it eliminated the slop but the
steering still doesn't feel quite right.
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On Apr 18, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Rich Thomas
wrote:
OK the SD is all finished, I
Rich Thomas writes:
> I am thinking the steering box needs to be adjusted, but with all the
> scary stories about buggering the box I am reluctant to do that.
I don't think there's any harm in adjusting it slightly, to see if you
get improvement. Just don't adjust it so far as to remove ALL the
OK the SD is all finished, I had to replace LF brake caliper as one
piston was pretty much frozen. All new suspension and steering bits, an
alignment done. Car drives well except there is still a fair amount of
slop in the steering. The u-joint on the shaft just ahead of the box is
fine, I c
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