Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

2014-04-14 Thread Peter Frederick
The 85 W123 in California had the Trap Oxidizer. The 49 state cars did not, although it's possible a few did. Some had the new style injection pumps too, in both places, but this is by chassis number, not by year. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

2014-04-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
s Discussion List > *Reply To: *Mercedes Discussion List > *Subject: *Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD > > I don't think they outfited catalysts on 1985 models > > They didn't. When you bought the CA engine, you should've listened to the > list consensus a

Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

2014-04-14 Thread Rick Knoble
From: Andrew StrasfogelSent: Monday, April 14, 2014 10:18 AMTo: Mercedes Discussion ListReply To: Mercedes Discussion ListSubject: Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TDI don't think they outfited catalysts on 1985 modelsThey didn't. When you bought the CA engine, you should've listened to the li

Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

2014-04-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I don't think they outfited catalysts on 1985 models. On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > >> If the dealer service advisor runs the CAR VIN he will realize the work >> hasn't been done, but also that this is a 49 state version 300TD. >> >> If he run

Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

2014-04-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: If the dealer service advisor runs the CAR VIN he will realize the work hasn't been done, but also that this is a 49 state version 300TD. If he runs the ENGINE VIN he will realize that the campaign was consummated in the 90s, in VA. So if the car shipped without a T/O,

Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

2014-04-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
gt; > If I wanted to keep a relationship with that dealer, I wouldn't want to > have to do any 'splanin... > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston, SC > > > Original Message > From: Dan Penoff > Sent: April 13, 2014 5:36:04 PM EDT > To: Mercedes Discu

Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

2014-04-13 Thread Max Dillon
do any 'splanin... -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC Original Message From: Dan Penoff Sent: April 13, 2014 5:36:04 PM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD My thoughts exactly. Unless there was something unusual about the engine I can&

Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

2014-04-13 Thread Dan Penoff
My thoughts exactly. Unless there was something unusual about the engine I can't imagine them going to the trouble of trying to read the engine serial number. If it's like the M119 it's pretty much impossible to get to in frame. Dan On Apr 13, 2014, at 5:31 PM, OK Don wrote: > Isn't the eng

Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

2014-04-13 Thread OK Don
Isn't the engine s/n stamped on the block below the head at the rear of the engine (I could be thinking of the M117)? They're more likely to look for the engine s/n by cross referencing to the chassis s/n. On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 1:10 PM, ernest breakfield < erne...@backyardengineering.org> wrote

Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

2014-04-13 Thread Dan Penoff
I would agree with this as well. If you gave them a different VIN they would immediately begin suspecting something fishy, I would think. Sent from my iPad > On Apr 13, 2014, at 2:10 PM, ernest breakfield > wrote: > > why would you give them a VIN that's different than the one they can see on

Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

2014-04-13 Thread Dan Penoff
True, but it's an easy "out" for the dealer to avoid having to do campaign or warranty work, which is about the least profitable job in the shop. Not to mention that they can get stuck with the job if the claim gets denied by MBUSA. If there is anything in the past that shows the numbers don't

Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

2014-04-13 Thread ernest breakfield
why would you give them a VIN that's different than the one they can see on the chassis? that would seem to invite questions... i'd have them check the one on the car, not the motor, especially if you don't know if either was ever part of the Campaign. cheers! e On 13/Apr/14 06:39, Andrew St

Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

2014-04-13 Thread Dan Penoff
I would. Most o the engine serial numbers are pretty tough to get to. Feign ignorance. What's the worst thing that could happen? Dan On Apr 13, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > Yeah, I agree. I may just play dumb and give them the donor car's VIN... _

Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

2014-04-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Yeah, I agree. I may just play dumb and give them the donor car's VIN... On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > It would be hard to damage the turbo internals in an engine swap unless > something got in there and buggered it. > > --R > > >

Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

2014-04-13 Thread Rich Thomas
It would be hard to damage the turbo internals in an engine swap unless something got in there and buggered it. --R On 4/12/14 11:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I can understand, since in transplanting a drive train or engine some parts of the assembly can easily get damaged. On Sat, Apr 1

Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

2014-04-10 Thread Rich Thomas
Thanks --R On 4/10/14 2:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Rich is a saint. On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Craig wrote: On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 13:46:59 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I doubt my local dealer (Euro Motorcars) would be willing to do anything of the sort. Find a different deal