Re: [MBZ] Klima relay for SDL

On Thu, 3 Aug 2017 17:53:09 + (UTC) Curt Raymond wrote: > Back in the day wars were fought over the "best" text editor > -Curt That I know. In fact, when I was working at Hewlett-Packard in Colorado Springs and was system administrator for our group's HP-UX system, we had a fellow join

Re: [MBZ] Klima relay for SDL

Back in the day wars were fought over the "best" text editor -Curt From: Craig via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Craig Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Klima relay for SDL On Thu, 3 Aug 2017 13:51:36 + (UTC) Curt Raymond vi

Re: [MBZ] Klima relay for SDL

On Thu, 3 Aug 2017 13:51:36 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > I took a class a couple weeks ago on one of our products. That product > runs on Red Hat Linux and theres a fair amount of text editing required > so I got a good introduction to vi. One of the guys in class looked > remar

Re: [MBZ] Klima relay for SDL

2017 3:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Klima relay for SDL > Jim wrote: > I also must now use wretched web interface for posting (but not > for reading), which cuts way down on my ability/interest in > posting. Ugh!  That sucks... For all their issues, gmail still lets me collect via P

Re: [MBZ] Klima relay for SDL

It is not. There are a number of different KLIMA relays out there, a few that are outliers, like the one in my 350SDL. You can "cheat" the KLIMA buy using a standard Bosch cube relay in place of the KLIMA. Do understand that by doing so you'll bypass the compressor lock up function. Should you

Re: [MBZ] Klima relay for SDL

> Jim wrote: > I also must now use wretched web interface for posting (but not > for reading), which cuts way down on my ability/interest in > posting. Ugh! That sucks... For all their issues, gmail still lets me collect via POP3 and send from the client of my choice with SMTP. So I can still

Re: [MBZ] Klima relay for SDL

Klimas respond to resoldering. They also do things like mess with the kickdown, also turning off the AC if they think you are stepping on it. So check all its inputs first, make sure they're good. I also must now use wretched web interface for posting (but not for reading), which cuts way down o

[MBZ] Klima relay for SDL

I am pretty sure I have not had access to outgoing mail since this took place. The SDL got some AC attention to the point that it got a minor fill of fake R12, but the compressor clutch would not kick in, so no more filling. The system held vacuum for two weeks. I jumped the pins on the Klima,

Re: [MBZ] Klima Konfusion about part numbers

Read my last post. I explained it. -D Sent from my iPad > On Mar 15, 2017, at 10:10 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > So what is the knob used for? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 15, 2017, at 6:31 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> The relay on my W126 300SEL is n

Re: [MBZ] Klima Konfusion about part numbers

So what is the knob used for? Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 15, 2017, at 6:31 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > The relay on my W126 300SEL is not a KLIMA, it's a MAS. It will have a knob > (not a button) on the top with an "I" and an "O" positions, indication that > it is locked down ("I"

Re: [MBZ] Klima Konfusion about part numbers

The relay on my W126 300SEL is not a KLIMA, it's a MAS. It will have a knob (not a button) on the top with an "I" and an "O" positions, indication that it is locked down ("I") or open "(O"). It does have the functions of a KLIMA, but it also interfaces with the fuel system idle control as well.

[MBZ] Klima Konfusion about part numbers

According to what I find on the bay of fleas: 001 545 80 05 300D, 300D2.5, 190D 2.5, 300SDL (124/201/126) 003 545 56 05 M103/M014 models 124/126 The info from Mother Benz would be more trustworthy... Does anyone have a way to find the applications for the 2 Klima numbers? 001 545 80 05

Re: [MBZ] Klima Konfusion about part numbers

Diesel preferred. From: Mercedes on behalf of Curley McLain via Mercedes Sent: 14 March 2017 22:51 To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curley McLain Subject: [MBZ] Klima Konfusion about part numbers Does anyone have a way to find the applications for the 2 Klima number

Re: [MBZ] Klima Konfusion about part numbers

MA. Diesel preferred. From: Mercedes on behalf of Curley McLain via Mercedes Sent: 14 March 2017 22:51 To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curley McLain Subject: [MBZ] Klima Konfusion about part numbers Does anyone have a way to find the applications for the 2

[MBZ] Klima Konfusion about part numbers

Does anyone have a way to find the applications for the 2 Klima numbers? 001 545 80 05 Which I think may be for a M103 vergasser as it has the button on top like Dan's, but it apparrently WAS working in the car. It has extra pins. (probably does not matter in the 124.133 socket) 003 545 56 0

Re: [MBZ] Klima Konfusion about part numbers

mboemparts.com (Northlake) seems to have changed their website (Or MB did it) Now when I look up a PN there it does not give application. I thought that was fishy at the South atlanta website too. I didn't see the tab with all the applications anymore. Max Dillon via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Klima Konfusion about part numbers

I'll check what is in my wagon, may have Wilton's 300D KLIMA somewhere. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On March 14, 2017 9:15:59 PM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: >MB of South atlanta website says 002 545 65 05 is the right Klima relay > >for 87 300D 124.133 when I loo

[MBZ] Klima Konfusion about part numbers

MB of South atlanta website says 002 545 65 05 is the right Klima relay for 87 300D 124.133 when I look up the part number and look at what it fits, 124.133 is not listed. Anyone know for sure what is the right PN for the Klima on this car? I have in my hands: 001 545 80 05 Which I think may

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA relay intermittent

Where is DeOxit sold, since Radio Shack is no more... Was just on vacation at Long Beach, WA. There is a Radio Shack there, and it's still open. Next to the Laundromat. I bought my last Deoxit online, the little spray can that RS had didn't last long. I bought the big spray can, the drip app

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA relay intermittent

Brace and splint, or "There I fixed it!" Admin please approve for release... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20150407_190603.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 3765760 bytes Desc: not available URL:

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA relay intermittent

‎Andrew inquires : >?? For electric guitars??  To do >what? To clean the potentiometers (pots) for volume and tone. The scratchy sound from dirty pots will absolutely destroy speakers at higher volume levels.  Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA relay intermittent

Thanks! I have a Harmony Music store nearby. Maybe they carry it. On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: > ‎Andrew inquires : > >?? For electric guitars?? To do >what? > > > To clean the potentiometers (pots) for volume and tone. The scratchy sound > from dirty pots will absolute

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA relay intermittent

?? For electric guitars?? To do what? On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: > ‎Andrew sez: > > >Where is DeOxit sold, since Radio >Shack is no more... > > Looks like a few near you still. > http://www.radioshack.com/store-locator > > Or Guitar Center or Musicians Friend. > > Onlin

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA relay intermittent

‎Andrew sez: >Where is DeOxit sold, since Radio >Shack is no more... Looks like a few near you still.  http://www.radioshack.com/store-locator Or Guitar Center or Musicians Friend.  Online  Walmart http://www.walmart.com/search/?query=deoxit d5 contact cleaner Amazon  http://www.amazon.com/gp/

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA relay intermittent

Where is DeOxit sold, since Radio Shack is no more... On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 6:33 AM, Max Dillon wrote: > Craig, Philip; > > I thought it was a bad contact, but a dose of De-Ox-It did not help. Next > I took apart the plastic base holding the pins, and tried each pin; they > are all tight. > >

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA relay intermittent

Craig, Philip; I thought it was a bad contact, but a dose of De-Ox-It did not help. Next I took apart the plastic base holding the pins, and tried each pin; they are all tight. It is either a problem in the wiring or the relay. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 __

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA relay intermittent

> > Max wrote: > > > > There is either a bad connection in the wiring or somewhere in > > the relay/board itself. I think I've got it "fixed" for now, > > but I'm planning to order a new KLIMA relay. > Craig wrote: > > It sounds like you should next investigate the socket into which > the KLIMA

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA relay intermittent

On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 21:00:55 -0400 Meade Dillon wrote: > I installed the relay without the cover, so I could see the > coil/contactors (I think that is what you are calling the relay on the > board) and there didn't appear to be any malfunction there. There is > either a bad connection in the wir

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA relay intermittent

Get a couple used ones for $20 each. On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Meade Dillon wrote: > Ufta! Just looked up the price: $128.80 for new KLIMA relay from MB > Northlake. > > Even worse, unique in North America to the '95 E300 (124.131), single year > model. > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 9:25 PM,

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA relay intermittent

Ufta! Just looked up the price: $128.80 for new KLIMA relay from MB Northlake. Even worse, unique in North America to the '95 E300 (124.131), single year model. On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 9:25 PM, Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I've had good luck with used ones from Kleb or fleabay.

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA relay intermittent

I installed the relay without the cover, so I could see the coil/contactors (I think that is what you are calling the relay on the board) and there didn't appear to be any malfunction there. There is either a bad connection in the wiring or somewhere in the relay/board itself. I think I've got i

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA relay intermittent

I installed the relay without the cover, so I could see the coil/contactors (I think that is what you are calling the relay on the board) and there didn't appear to be any malfunction there. There is either a bad connection in the wiring or somewhere in the relay/board itself. I think I've got it

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA relay intermittent

Probably bad solder joints on the circuit board inside at the relay, this is the hottest part. Could also be a bad relay, never tried to replace just the relay itself on the board. Mine was burnt up by a bad AC clutch. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA relay intermittent

I re-flowed all the solder joints, no joy. Had to brace and splint it. Should hold until I can get a new relay. Picture to follow... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On April 7, 2015 6:36:55 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: >Probably, or maybe dirty connection. > >Sent from my

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA relay intermittent

Probably, or maybe dirty connection. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 7, 2015, at 5:30 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > > '95 E300, AC compressor cuts in and out, flaky KLIMA relay. Touch, twist, > press on the relay, and it starts working. > > Bad connection, like a solder joint? > -- > Max Dillon > Ch

[MBZ] KLIMA relay intermittent

'95 E300, AC compressor cuts in and out, flaky KLIMA relay. Touch, twist, press on the relay, and it starts working. Bad connection, like a solder joint? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http:

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA update

> > Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > > > > I'm always quite satisfied with working climate control in > > these cars... its a great feature for a 30+ year old design. > > I rarely need to touch the controls, it just works to keep > > me comfortable without having to do much of anything. > Alex Chamberlai

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA update

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Allan Streib wrote: >  Defrost setting works fine, directing hot air > to the windshield with the blower on high.  I just can't tell a lot of > difference in the other buttons.  No matter which one I select, airflow > is about the same (mostly out of the center v

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA update

THAT sounds like a great deal. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Hans Neureiter wrote: $ 60, shipping included. Tested and guaranteed. Compared to reurbished for $ 250 or new for $ 650. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:40 PM, Max wrote: > Glad to hear that, hope it didn't cost you to

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA update

On Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:14 AM, "Alex Chamberlain" wrote: > (e.g. all defrost all the time like Allan's car means a failed PBU); This is not what I meant. Defrost setting works fine, directing hot air to the windshield with the blower on high. I just can't tell a lot of difference in t

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA update

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > I'm always quite satisfied with working climate control in these cars... its > a great feature for a 30+ year old design.  I rarely need to touch the > controls, it just works to keep me comfortable without having to do much of > anything.

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA update

If you have one this is the time to read the owners' manual. I tried working the ACC system like a typical heater. Frustrating to say the least. If you read the book it will tell you exactly what button makes the air and heat do what you want it to. The 3rd button from the right should keep all

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA update

no entirely true; as described in the Owners Manual, the button that has both 'up' and 'down' solid arrows will direct airflow to the windshield (as well as the floor vents). it does, however, involve the AC being on to keep the air drier, but it's perfect for those rainy days. what i don'

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA update

I would like a simple and/or inexpensive fix for broken center air control on SWMBO's 1985 300CD. No cold air exits from the center vents. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Hans Neureiter wrote: > $ 60, shipping included. Tested and guaranteed. > Compared to reurbished for $ 250 or new for $ 650

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA update

On Tuesday, October 25, 2011 7:27 AM, "Jim Cathey" wrote: > > My peeve about the ACC in my W123 is that defrost is "full heat, > > full fan" and that's the only option if you want airflow on the > > windshield. Gets uncomfortable quick if you want to defog the > > windshield on a rainy day. > > T

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA update

My peeve about the ACC in my W123 is that defrost is "full heat, full fan" and that's the only option if you want airflow on the windshield. Gets uncomfortable quick if you want to defog the windshield on a rainy day. That's what the next button over is for. -- Jim __

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA update

I was reading somewhere that Daimler Benz bought the system from an US car maker. The Evil Chrysler ACC From Hell is the unreliable system with the vertical row of pushbuttons. It was deployed after Chrysler itself abandoned it. Steaming pile it is. VDO designed (presumably) and made the suc

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA update

Hans Neureiter wrote: Who was it than? I was reading somewhere that Daimler Benz bought the system from an US car maker. The Chrysler Imperial system got ported to the W116. I'm sure Jaime can tell us how much Mopar content there is in a W123, but I don't think anything W201 or later had any C

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA update

Who was it than? I was reading somewhere that Daimler Benz bought the system from an US car maker. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > That system wasn't the Chrysler system. > > It's more like... not bad for 30 years old! > > When properly rebuilt, the last a long time and

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA update

$ 60, shipping included. Tested and guaranteed. Compared to reurbished for $ 250 or new for $ 650. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:40 PM, Max wrote: > Glad to hear that, hope it didn't cost you too much. > -- > -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD ___ http://www.

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA update

Wow. That is like embracing a porcupine. Hahaha. Mike On Oct 25, 2011 9:39 AM, "Jaime Kopchinski" wrote: > No offense taken... part of the reason I like these cars is enjoying how > they were designed and built. Automatic climate control is just part of > the > deal, so I embrace it rather th

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA update

No offense taken... part of the reason I like these cars is enjoying how they were designed and built. Automatic climate control is just part of the deal, so I embrace it rather than despise it. I'm always quite satisfied with working climate control in these cars... its a great feature for a 30+

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA update

On Monday, October 24, 2011 10:12 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > Whose business is it if I want to run the heater full blast at the > same time I run the AC? I love the 110/111/112/113/108 "climate > controls! My peeve about the ACC in my W123 is that defrost is "full heat, full

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA update

sue is with the sampler fan which lives beside the glove box and is making funny noises... -Curt Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 22:12:29 -0500 From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] KLIMA update Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA update

Glad to hear that, hope it didn't cost you too much. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Hans Neureiter wrote: installed 'new' PB unit. What a difference. Fan ramps up and down with temp. setting. Took the old unit apart: some ssolenoid contacts burned, some coils discolored. So muc

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA update

Jaime, don't take this personally, because it is not. It is just a (hopefully humorous) rant about building something just "because we can." That is a very serious and common malady among programmers, but it applies to the automotive area also. As for the ACC: Bah Humbug! Give me 2 levers

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA update

That system wasn't the Chrysler system. It's more like... not bad for 30 years old! When properly rebuilt, the last a long time and work very well. Its a good investment. Jaime On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Hans Neureiter wrote: > installed 'new' PB unit. > What a difference. > Fan ramp

[MBZ] KLIMA update

installed 'new' PB unit. What a difference. Fan ramps up and down with temp. setting. Took the old unit apart: some ssolenoid contacts burned, some coils discolored. So much for 1970's electronics, bought from Chrysler, -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD ___

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA driving me nuts

I think it just may be a KLIMA't issue. Last three days it didn't do it. Old car - Hotter than hell here - Who knows. Fix one thing if you know what to fix, and other problemo pops up. I stick with this one BEATER and I have a 12 Ga loaded with #00 Buckshot. An old Englesio/Nelson song comes to m

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA driving me nuts

Maybe Jim Cathey or someone else with more recent experience than I can help troubleshoot. -- Max, Charleston SC Hans Neureiter wrote: >Not anymore. Shake to much. I would definately render the thing >useless. > >On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Max Dillon >wrote: > >> Sounds to me like the P

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA driving me nuts

Not anymore. Shake to much. I would definately render the thing useless. On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Max Dillon wrote: > Sounds to me like the PB unit. Are you handy with a soldering iron? > > Max > -- > Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX > '82 300SD > > ___ http:/

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA driving me nuts

Sounds to me like the PB unit. Are you handy with a soldering iron? Max Hans Neureiter wrote: >After a period of fuses blowing, first #11, than #10, both of which >stay put >now without me fixing anything, >lately the AC/Blower quits completely after ~ 10 minutes. Put it in EC >blower comes ba

[MBZ] KLIMA driving me nuts

After a period of fuses blowing, first #11, than #10, both of which stay put now without me fixing anything, lately the AC/Blower quits completely after ~ 10 minutes. Put it in EC blower comes back. Wait a few minutes and put it back on AC it works again and stays on. First thought was the Evap fre

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA? - '92 300D

I finally had a chance to swap OVP relays between the two 300Ds, but discovered that the newer one, in the car with the problem, came apart as I was removing it. First the plastic top with the fuses came of, then the aluminum can. I ended up pulling the bare relay assembly out of the socket. On inp

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA? - '92 300D

On second thought - through in a OVP with the KLIMA -- I'd like to have both in stock. On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 10:10 PM, OK Don wrote: > Yup - thought of that. No change. > > On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > >> If the OVP relay behind the battery the one with the fuse

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA? - '92 300D

Yup - thought of that. No change. On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > If the OVP relay behind the battery the one with the fuse on top. > sometimes its not the relay but the connections are loose or dirty. Try > jiggling the relay and see what it does. > > > -- > OK Don

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA? - '92 300D

If the OVP relay behind the battery the one with the fuse on top. sometimes its not the relay but the connections are loose or dirty. Try jiggling the relay and see what it does. On 3/27/2011 4:21 PM, OK Don wrote: The second issue with the '92 300D is the loss of the tach, idle speed contro

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA? - '92 300D

The OVP relay is two years old -- the rest of the instrument cluster is fine. On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: > The contactor on the KLIMA relay can unsolder or fuse from age, bad solder > joints, or a shorted AC clutch. Usually results in always on AC clutch or > none. >

Re: [MBZ] KLIMA? - '92 300D

The contactor on the KLIMA relay can unsolder or fuse from age, bad solder joints, or a shorted AC clutch. Usually results in always on AC clutch or none. Pull the relay next time it does this. What is the age of your OVP relay? If it drops out, so does your instrument cluster. I suppos

[MBZ] KLIMA? - '92 300D

The second issue with the '92 300D is the loss of the tach, idle speed control, and AC - sometimes. At first it was once a month or so, and could be brought to life again (all three systems) by killing and re-starting the engine. Then it got so that once off, they would stay that way till the car s

Re: [MBZ] Klima, Again

Thanks much! Pins 5 and 7 in the socket. At 11:41 PM 6/25/2007, you wrote: > > 'Nother question: Can anyone remind me which terminals to jump in > > the Klima relay socket to power the compressor for testing? > >It's the usual relay terminal labeling, with extras. See: > > http://userwe

Re: [MBZ] Klima, Again

> 'Nother question: Can anyone remind me which terminals to jump in > the Klima relay socket to power the compressor for testing? It's the usual relay terminal labeling, with extras. See: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mamerepairs.html -- Jim __

[MBZ] Klima Bonanza

ok, part of this is self-promotion. There are currently 3 Klima relays llisted for sale on ebay. 2 are mine. One is for v-8 engines (vergasser) One is for OM617 Diesels I think maybe the other listing is for a 300E/TE Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz

[MBZ] Klima, Again

Can anyone tell me the application for this Klima relay? 001 545 85 05 I am looking for 001 545 80 05. I am guessing this one is for 6 cyl gas or maybe 4 cyl gas. 'Nother question: Can anyone remind me which terminals to jump in the Klima relay socket to power the compressor for testing?

Re: [MBZ] Klima

Jim Cathey wrote: Got my new KLIMA from Rusty last week--problem solved. Still don't know why the thing went south in such a big way. Here's a lousy pic of the circuit board and my feeble attempts to bridge the burnt traces. Upon further review, it looks like the burnt item on the front side

Re: [MBZ] Klima

Got my new KLIMA from Rusty last week--problem solved. Still don't know why the thing went south in such a big way. Here's a lousy pic of the circuit board and my feeble attempts to bridge the burnt traces. Upon further review, it looks like the burnt item on the front side was a resister aft

Re: [MBZ] Klima

Got my new KLIMA from Rusty last week--problem solved. Still don't know why the thing went south in such a big way. Here's a lousy pic of the circuit board and my feeble attempts to bridge the burnt traces. Upon further review, it looks like the burnt item on the front side was a resister aftera

Re: [MBZ] Klima

Just for SaG, I soldered in bridges for those broken traces to see if I could temporarily resurrect this thing, but it still didn't work. The burnt looking resistor registers continuity across, but since it's so discolored, I can't tell by its banding whether the resistance values are correct.

Re: [MBZ] Klima

A'ha! Yes, it's purely cylindrical. On 8/7/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know how to differentiate between a resistor and a diode. Diode bodies tend to be purely cylindrical, while resistors often have bulgy ends. Or, compare to a non-smoked unit. - Casey Olympia, W

Re: [MBZ] Klima

are you sure the "resistor" isn't a charred and smoked diode that got hit with too much current in the wrong direction? Sometimes something else may have gone south, and caused the diode/resistor to take the brunt of the failure. A reverse polarity incident might do it, there's little protect

Re: [MBZ] Klima

I don't know how to differentiate between a resistor and a diode. Diode bodies tend to be purely cylindrical, while resistors often have bulgy ends. Or, compare to a non-smoked unit. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Klima

I don't know how to differentiate between a resistor and a diode. One of them used to have symmetrical resistance, the other didn't. Glad to be of help. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Klima

This might be a case for dental records... Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Could be. I don't know how to differentiate between a resistor and a diode. > > -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (160kmi) '82 300D (74kmi needs block or engine)

Re: [MBZ] Klima

are you sure the "resistor" isn't a charred and smoked diode that got hit with too much current in the wrong direction? Sometimes something else may have gone south, and caused the diode/resistor to take the brunt of the failure. Luther Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Just for SaG,

Re: [MBZ] Klima

have neither the cranial capacity, nor equipment to run any further tests, so this sucker's toast as far as I'm concerned. Mmmm, toast! Send it my way, maybe we'll learn something? -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Klima

Just for SaG, I soldered in bridges for those broken traces to see if I could temporarily resurrect this thing, but it still didn't work. The burnt looking resistor registers continuity across, but since it's so discolored, I can't tell by its banding whether the resistance values are correct. I

Re: [MBZ] Klima

What I did was grab a small Japanese relay at the U-Pull yesterday. When I removed it from the shell and cut off most of the spade lugs it could wedge into the hole occupied by the dead relay. With far more than anticipated fooling around I was able to secure it and wire it in place. On the benc

Re: [MBZ] Klima

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: speaking of clocks, what are the 2 capacitors or whatever that you buy at radio shack to get the clocks working again? I have the RS part number but have lost it. 100 ufd. The originals were 15-16V rated. I recommend 25-35V replacements. Marshall -- Marshal

Re: [MBZ] Klima

speaking of clocks, what are the 2 capacitors or whatever that you buy at radio shack to get the clocks working again? I have the RS part number but have lost it. They're just generic electrolytic capacitors, 100 uF. (Larger values would be OK, I doubt it's critical.) They have to be rated at

Re: [MBZ] Klima

speaking of clocks, what are the 2 capacitors or whatever that you buy at radio shack to get the clocks working again? I have the RS part number but have lost it. Jim Cathey wrote: Well, I may have a dead KLIMA to add to your pile. Donations are cheerfully accepted. We need to build a kn

Re: [MBZ] Klima

Well, I may have a dead KLIMA to add to your pile. Donations are cheerfully accepted. We need to build a knowledge base of what _really_ goes wrong with them. (We have that for climate controls, ACC panels, and clocks. Solder, solder, and capacitors respectively. Every other failure seems to

Re: [MBZ] Klima

Well, I may have a dead KLIMA to add to your pile. I finally got my rebuilt compressor and seals in this week, so I went ahead and did the install, vacuuming, and Gaz d' Cathey recharge, but the compressor wouldn't kick in. I jumped pins # 5 & 7, and it sprang to life, offering significant vent

Re: [MBZ] Klima

Check out Mouser Electronics. http://www.mouser.com They have a pretty good selection - and no minimum order and fair shipping fees. Looks good. Unfortunately none of their offerings was an exact match for the broken relay, however several were small enough that they could probably be flanged

Re: [MBZ] Klima

I have some I would love to get repaired. I'm leaning towards repairing them for $20, but if the non-generic components, such as the relays, are what are usually dead then this won't fly. If it's primarily soldering, then no problem. The shingle page shows Klima stuff on it, but it's uncertain

Re: [MBZ] Klima

I have some I would love to get repaired. Jim Cathey wrote: wouldn't bridge pins 9 and 11 (?) to switch on the compressor even 5 & 7. 9 & 11 are the tachometer feedback. I don't feel so bad about having subjected the thing to my hamfisted soldering now! That's fine. Don't do it again

Re: [MBZ] Klima

rumor has it that Jim wrote: > Finding a replacement relay may > be difficult, the junkbox relays are all much larger than that one. Check out Mouser Electronics. http://www.mouser.com They have a pretty good selection - and no minimum order and fair shipping fees. Or post dimentions, pinout, a

Re: [MBZ] Klima

wouldn't bridge pins 9 and 11 (?) to switch on the compressor even 5 & 7. 9 & 11 are the tachometer feedback. I don't feel so bad about having subjected the thing to my hamfisted soldering now! That's fine. Don't do it again! :-) Anybody got more dead Klimas to donate to the cause of und

Re: [MBZ] Klima

On 8/4/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Freakish, the repaired electronics work fine, but the relay itself is defective. You don't see that too often. Maybe it got cooked? I removed it and then when I measured the resistance it had gone up to nearly an open circuit. Finding a replace

Re: [MBZ] Klima

Put the sick apparently-not-yet-repaired Klima on the bench. (Also brought in the good one from the car.) Began tracing the schematic. Measured the tachometer input on the car, the Fluke says it's about 1800 Hz at 3V at idle. The Klima seems to react at about 800 Hz, as soon as that frequency i

Re: [MBZ] Klima

Resoldered Klima. Went easily. Board is not varnished, so that nasty paint stripper step is eliminated. Burned mark on board is explainable as a pad that lifted off during soldering, I had one do that (it was for uninstalled components) and it left a black mark where the copper had been. As th

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