Sounds WAY too complex for a motorcycle! I thought the R100 was bad
(compared to the R69S that preceeded it). I don't like bikes that can't be
kick-started. I also didn't like the price of parts for the '84 R100, so
I've been bike-less since 2000.
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 12:58 PM, ernest breakfiel
gotta' wonder, eh?
from what i understand, older-style higher-quality cats aren't
harmed by ZDDP, but those cats are reportedly much more expensive than
the cheaper types (at least most) car manufacturers switched to.
i'm not sure which type BMW was using when they made my '02 GS, but
the
Sell more cats?
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 1:25 PM, ernest breakfield <
erne...@backyardengineering.org> wrote:
> apparently, ZDDP's an issue for the newer cheaper Cats, but you gotta'
> wonder, since at least some BMW motos (like mine) have catalytic
> converters,...!
>
> --
> OK Don
> Pair of W124
;>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Ed,
>>>> All I've read about getting correct ZDDP levels (which is quite a bit)
>>>> -
>>>> indicate using a diesel rated oil is a good option. The other is to use
>>>> one
>>>> of the
one
of the many ZDDP Additives available I'm using Cam-Tune but there are
many others ...
good luck -
Larry T
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Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] More OIL Quest
E M wrote:
Does zinc effect pollution itself, or just shorten the life of a cat,
I think it deactivates the cat, much like lead does.
Mitch.
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ing a diesel rated oil is a good option. The other is to use one
>> of the many ZDDP Additives available I'm using Cam-Tune but there are
>> many others ...
>>
>> good luck -
>> Larry T
>>
>> - Original Message ----- From: "Peter Hertzing&
ZDDP Additives available I'm using
Cam-Tune but there are many others ...
good luck -
Larry T
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I&#x
: [MBZ] More OIL Questions
I use the dino Rotella Diesel 15/40 in the old 300E gasser, and it seems to
work well. I like it for the higher zink content. I'm not sure what to
run
in my old 911 now that the zink levels have been reduced, but I'm thinking
to maybe go with Rotella in that
E M writes:
> I use the dino Rotella Diesel 15/40 in the old 300E gasser, and it seems to
> work well. I like it for the higher zink content. I'm not sure what to run
> in my old 911 now that the zink levels have been reduced, but I'm thinking
> to maybe go with Rotella in that too. Any though
Luther writes:
> Marshall swore up and down that Shell was a group III oil and nothing
> special. For conventional oil, it's worthless as it's nearly the same
> price as Chevron Delo 400 and Delvac 1300, both group IV oils.
I can get Chevron Delo 400 in 6 gallon cases at Sam's Club, that's what
Marshall swore up and down that Shell was a group III oil and nothing
special. For conventional oil, it's worthless as it's nearly the same
price as Chevron Delo 400 and Delvac 1300, both group IV oils.
Luther
tyler wrote:
Is the Shell Rotella a true API group IV based synthetic oil, or does
Thanks Rick. I seem to remember a few ppl saying, while the M1 is good, the
zinc content is still lower than was is recommended for older air cooled
porsches. I could be wrong.
Thanks for the link.
Ed
300E
2009/6/4 Rick Knoble
> I like it for the higher zink content. I'm not sure what to r
I like it for the higher zink content. I'm not sure what to run
in my old 911 now that the zink levels have been reduced, but I'm thinking
to maybe go with Rotella in that too. Any thoughts ?
Mobil One motorcycle oils have the highest zinc content, but they are not
cheap. M1 15w-50 is next.
came from Nat Gas.
Comments?
LarryT
- Original Message - From: "R A Bennell"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 2:44 PM
Subject: [MBZ] More OIL Questions
I don't see much choice in Mobil 1 here but when I go over the border
int
Thanks Manfred.
Ed
300E
2009/6/4 MG
> Ed,
>
> Try your local Harley dealer. They have special high zinc motorcycle oils.
>
> Manfred
>
>
>
>
> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 16:29:27 -0400
> From: E M
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] More OIL Questions
>
> I use the
Ed,
Try your local Harley dealer. They have special high zinc motorcycle
oils.
Manfred
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 16:29:27 -0400
From: E M
Subject: Re: [MBZ] More OIL Questions
I use the dino Rotella Diesel 15/40 in the old 300E gasser, and it
seems to
work well. I like it for the higher
yeah, that too. lol
Ed
300E
2009/6/4 Curt Raymond
> Zinc...
>
> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 16:29:27 -0400
> From: E M
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] More OIL Questions
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
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>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
t: Re: [MBZ] More OIL Questions
Randy,
For your usage I'd say stick with conventional oil. With a 617 engine and no
additional filtering you can't do
extended change intervals which is one of the big reasons to use M1. The other
is for easier cold starts but you
don't drive your car
LarryT wrote:
> Didn't know diesel came from Nat Gas.
I doubt diesel comes from Nat Gas.
I think what the GTL is saying is that a component can be created from
Nat Gas, or, that diesel can be made from Nat Gas. As I understand
it, many of the industrial plastics we use these days are created
YMMV
LarryT
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From: "Curt Raymond"
To: "Diesel List"
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] More OIL Questions
As Marshall would say, Rotella synthetic, while its a good oil, is NOT a
real synthetic, its a group III well refined
Zinc...
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 16:29:27 -0400
From: E M
Subject: Re: [MBZ] More OIL Questions
To: Mercedes Discussion List
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I use the dino Rotella Diesel 15/40 in the old 300E gasser, and it seems to
work well. I like
As Marshall would say, Rotella synthetic, while its a good oil, is NOT a real
synthetic, its a group III well refined conventional oil.
Mobil 1, Royal Purple, Redline, and Amsoil are all real synthetics.
-Curt
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 15:57:08 -0400
From: "LarryT"
Subject: Re: [MBZ
available I'm using Cam-Tune but there are
> many others ...
>
> good luck -
> Larry T
>
> - Original Message - From: "Peter Hertzing"
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 4:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] More
drive your car in the winter a block heater and/or (since you get
serious cold) an oil pan heater would do the job to get you going.
I've been using Delvac 1300 in my 240D.
-Curt
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:44:36 -0500
From: "R A Bennell"
Subject: [MBZ] More OIL Questions
- Original Message -
From: "Peter Hertzing"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] More OIL Questions
I've run the 15/40 in all my Volvo's and my gaser E320 Seems to get the
job
done. Never had a mechanical fail
riginal Message -
From: "tyler"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] More OIL Questions
Is the Shell Rotella a true API group IV based synthetic oil, or does it
contain group III hydroisomerized petroleum based oil (which ca
I've run the 15/40 in all my Volvo's and my gaser E320 Seems to get the job
done. Never had a mechanical failure due to oil breakdown - ever.
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:29 PM, E M wrote:
> I use the dino Rotella Diesel 15/40 in the old 300E gasser, and it seems to
> work well. I like it for the
I use the dino Rotella Diesel 15/40 in the old 300E gasser, and it seems to
work well. I like it for the higher zink content. I'm not sure what to run
in my old 911 now that the zink levels have been reduced, but I'm thinking
to maybe go with Rotella in that too. Any thoughts ?
Ed
300E
2009/6/
n't know diesel came from Nat Gas.
Comments?
LarryT
- Original Message -
From: "R A Bennell"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 2:44 PM
Subject: [MBZ] More OIL Questions
I don't see much choice in Mobil 1 here but wh
Is the Shell Rotella a true API group IV based synthetic oil, or does it
contain group III hydroisomerized petroleum based oil (which can legally
be labeled synthetic)? I can't seem to get a real answer on this
question, so I've always been afraid to use Rotella- since the group III
oils aren't
I've always seen it in stock when I look at Autozone.
Tyler
LarryT wrote:
Howdy!
Shell Rotella is an excellent choice if Mobil 1 is not available\\
The type of Mobil 1 recommended for older diesels like ours is M1
Diesel Turbo/Truck Synthetic Oil in 5W40. If W'mart doesn't have it,
tr
there's a
problem with the link --
Good luck -
LarryT
- Original Message -
From: "R A Bennell"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 2:44 PM
Subject: [MBZ] More OIL Questions
I don't see much choice in Mobil 1 here but when I g
I don't see much choice in Mobil 1 here but when I go over the border into the
USA, I always look at WalMart to see
what they have.
Do I need to worry about the coding on the jugs or is any reasonably heavy
Mobil 1 going to be ok for my old 300D?
So far, I have just stuck with the Shell Rote
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