Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue

2016-07-29 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 12:53:35 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > These were likely short-term transients. But if the surge breaker > breaks the power to the panel during a voltage transient (of whatever > duration) it does its job, then if it fries that is just a

Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue

2016-07-29 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
These were likely short-term transients. But if the surge breaker breaks the power to the panel during a voltage transient (of whatever duration) it does its job, then if it fries that is just a $108 problem rather than a $500 SC unit problem or TVs etc.? Do I have this right? I'm trying to

Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue

2016-07-29 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 12:17:05 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > The manager of the other system on Seabrook Island, just down the road, > said they were getting voltage readings on a 480V line of 420-540V, all > over the map ... > > She says the powerco won't

Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue

2016-07-29 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue

2016-07-29 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> The basic job of a UPS is to replace the power when gets too > low. It may do nothing if it's too high. My APC and FerrUPS units all will cut over to battery if the power is too low, too high, or out-of-range on frequency. The FerrUPS units also have a mode where they're only doing power

Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue

2016-07-29 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Thanks. I think I'm going to get one of those surge breakers that sits right at the panel breaker, should provide some protection to all the circuits instead of just one surge breaker on the AC unit. They have an LED indicator to show when they are still working, so that is an indicator if

Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue

2016-07-29 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Floyd wrote: Looked like a power hit but there were no storms in the area, so it was the powerco sending out trash power, voltage up and down, surges, etc. The manager of the other system on Seabrook Island, just down the road, said they were getting voltage readings on a 480V line of 420-540V,

Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue

2016-07-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue

2016-07-28 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
It looks like one of these in each panel will do the trick: https://www.amazon.com/Eaton-BRSURGE-Whole-Panel-Arrest-Breaker/dp/B00PM927KK Or one of these specifically on the AC unit circuit: https://www.amazon.com/Eaton-BR230SUR/dp/B00JV3EIG4 Not sure that will deal with voltage swings but if

Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue

2016-07-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Go the JC route: Buy a used humongus APC UPS for cheep. Buy some batteries to make it work. Wire it in as a whole house (estate) unit. Less costly over the long run than a bunch of UPSs/surge protector. one other route is what they call a buckbooster. It is basically a big box

Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue

2016-07-28 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
So at the water board meeting this morning our engineer was talking about some problems in the distribution system, seems as though a coupla weeks ago in the early morning the SCADA system started sending alarms, which woke her up, sensors on our 3 tanks were all over the place then one

Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue

2016-07-23 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
'Xactly. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 23, 2016 10:16:41 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes wrote: >On Sat, 23 Jul 2016 18:46:42 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Sounds like you needed Sam Spade's services to track down

Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue

2016-07-23 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 23 Jul 2016 18:46:42 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > Sounds like you needed Sam Spade's services to track down these gents? As in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Spade Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue

2016-07-23 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 23 Jul 2016 18:07:55 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > Arrived yesterday, I got it in today, IT'S ALIVE Congratulations! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue

2016-07-23 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Sounds like you needed Sam Spade's services to track down these gents? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 23, 2016 6:07:55 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: >I found a guy who is based Upstate who facilitated getting me a new >control board

Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue

2016-07-23 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I found a guy who is based Upstate who facilitated getting me a new control board for my LG mini-split outdoor unit. He was a former boss of a guy who is listed on LG's website, but who no longer sells their stuff because of how poor they are to deal with (he says the units are not bad but

Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue

2016-07-15 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
The ways of SWMBO are not for mortal men to understand... "Yes dear" is the proper response, we'll get you trained up yet Curt. - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > We've got an in-wall aircon, sounds like

Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue

2016-07-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
fore lunch. -Curt From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Mitch Haley <mi...@mitchellhaley.com> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 11:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue On July 14, 2016 at 10:3

Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue

2016-07-15 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On July 14, 2016 at 11:29 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote:On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 23:21:12 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:The single room units always have a higher SEER rating too.That's interesting. I thought the bigger units had higher SEER

Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue

2016-07-14 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 23:21:12 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > The single room units always have a higher SEER rating too. That's interesting. I thought the bigger units had higher SEER ratings. Craig ___

Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue

2016-07-14 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On July 14, 2016 at 10:39 PM Joel Cairo via Mercedes wrote:Yeah we tried shutting off and restarting, no go. The board on the compressor has some LEDs that should be lighting but aren't. The indoor units are all blinking their light saying they can't talk to the outdoor

Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue

2016-07-14 Thread Joel Cairo via Mercedes
Yeah we tried shutting off and restarting, no go. The board on the compressor has some LEDs that should be lighting but aren't. The indoor units are all blinking their light saying they can't talk to the outdoor unit. They have power off the outdoor unit through a 12V source. I'm thinking

Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue

2016-07-14 Thread Joel Cairo via Mercedes
The service manual has some troubleshooting procedures, my Korengrish should work pretty well. I'll have to get at it this weekend, figure I can poke around at it as good as my guy. I'll have to dig out the warranty info but it is probably beyond. I'll look into the gas and a gauge set too.

Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue

2016-07-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Bought a 30 lb tank a few years ago, didn't need a license then. Amazon, about $125 and wait a few days. The installation manual / plan should give some idea of how it works, so then you can engineer a test method or two. Is there a big-a** start capacitor? Those are notorious for causing a

Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue

2016-07-14 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Korean?LG?Did you kill the breaker and try to reboot?Check every wire, there's probably four conductors for each indoor unit?I wonder if an electronic failure in an indoor unit can shut the whole system down or if it means something's wrong in the outdoor unit?I took the test for the auto license

[MBZ] OT HVAC issue

2016-07-14 Thread Joel Cairo via Mercedes
My mini-split quit working the other night, indoor units are blinking 5 times which seems to be a code (if I can understand Korengrish) that they are no longer communicating with the outdoor compressor unit. I thought the thing might have gone low on refrigerant but my guy came by today and