[MBZ] OT fedora server

2012-04-16 Thread Dieselhead
picked up a dell 2650 with a fresh install of fedora. Anybody familiar with this OS for a server? I am wondering if it has something like AD group policies similar to M$ Server 2000/2003/2008. If so, I can learn to use it. Otherwise I can put 2003R2 on it. Its intended use will be data s

Re: [MBZ] OT fedora server

2012-04-16 Thread Walt Zarnoch
SAMBA should do most of that, iirc it did AD stuff. Sorry I can't be much more help, I just tolerate windows now, much prefer the penguin. Walt On Apr 16, 2012 11:32 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > picked up a dell 2650 with a fresh install of fedora. Anybody familiar > with th

Re: [MBZ] OT fedora server

2012-04-17 Thread Fmiser
> Dieselhead wrote: > picked up a dell 2650 with a fresh install of fedora. > Anybody familiar with this OS for a server? Fedora is a distribution of Linux. Formerly RedHat. > I am wondering if it has something like AD group policies > similar to M$ Server 2000/2003/2008. If so, I can learn

Re: [MBZ] OT fedora server

2012-04-17 Thread Tim C
Not to be a snob, but I wouldn't use Fedora; use CentOS or Debian for a production server. Fedora is a test distribution, so while it's as stable as, say, VistaSP1, it's not quite a real server IMO. That said, since the user is used to Windows and is otherwise going to be running Windows, I'd use

Re: [MBZ] OT fedora server

2012-04-19 Thread Dieselhead
Seems like the consensus is wipe and install 2003R2. Two more questions: 1. would it be worth considering an install of linux and then run server 2003R2 as a VM? Or is that just wasting resources? Dell 2650 xeon 2.8 4 gig memory. 2. Has anyone heard of insurance costing more if the business

Re: [MBZ] OT fedora server

2012-04-19 Thread Dave Walton
You are absolutely further ahead if you start with a virtualized platform. Use ESXi (free) as the operating system and load 2003 on it in a VM. It's much more stable than running windows or Linux as the host. The overhead is minimal. In fact it de-duplucates memory blocks so if you have 2 VMs ru

Re: [MBZ] OT fedora server

2012-04-19 Thread Craig
On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 09:47:10 -0500 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > 2. Has anyone heard of insurance costing more if the business is > running open source software? Say what? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okieb

Re: [MBZ] OT fedora server

2012-04-19 Thread Tim C
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > Seems like the consensus is wipe and install 2003R2. > > Two more questions: > 1.  would it be worth considering an install of linux and then run server > 2003R2 as a VM?  Or is that just wasting resources?  Dell 2650 xeon

Re: [MBZ] OT fedora server

2012-04-19 Thread Dieselhead
Is the setup of ESXi strictly command line? if so, is there a sample somewhere of the commands to set it up and install a vm, then start that vm? There is only one *nix command I remember because it is so unlike the commands of other os's for the same thing: delete a file is rm (filename).

Re: [MBZ] OT fedora server

2012-04-19 Thread Dieselhead
A friend of mine said he has seen instances of insurance companies charging more if the business uses linux, open office/libre office and so forth. I am wondering if anyone who uses open source in business has heard of any of this. It could be localized, or it could be regional or national.

Re: [MBZ] OT fedora server

2012-04-19 Thread Dave Walton
Should cost less. Years ago I worked for a CAD company in Boston. When customers came to us saying their computers were stolen or burned or whatever we had to remind them to include the software cost as part of their insurance claim. The program was licensed to a particular processor and they cu

Re: [MBZ] OT fedora server

2012-04-19 Thread Tim C
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > Is the setup of ESXi strictly command line?  if so, is there a sample > somewhere of the commands to set it up and install a vm, then start that vm? No, there is a remote GUI front end. ESXi is interesting because there's

Re: [MBZ] OT fedora server

2012-04-19 Thread Dan Penoff
My question would be, "How do they know?" Not to mention that it might be a business process that requires a Linux OS, so what bearing would that have as far as exposure is concerned? Hmm. I would certainly challenge an insurance agent who was questioning my use of software platforms. Dan On

Re: [MBZ] OT fedora server

2012-04-19 Thread Fmiser
> Dieselhead wrote: > Seems like the consensus is wipe and install 2003R2. > > Two more questions: > 1. would it be worth considering an install of linux and then > run server 2003R2 as a VM? Fedora _is_ linux! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] OT fedora server

2012-04-19 Thread Dieselhead
I don't know why open source would be more expensive. Makes no sense to me. Open source is more stable, more secure, the last I checked, and much cheaper, therefore not potentially as big of a claim on ins. It is some potential liability they are afraid of. Somehow, some "genius" in some ins

Re: [MBZ] OT fedora server

2012-04-19 Thread Dieselhead
Yabbut others suggested debian or centos I was just trying to make it generic. > Dieselhead wrote: Seems like the consensus is wipe and install 2003R2. Two more questions: 1. would it be worth considering an install of linux and then run server 2003R2 as a VM? Fedora _is_ linux! --

Re: [MBZ] OT fedora server

2012-04-19 Thread OK Don
I'd think it would be in the IT press, Gartner reports, etc. if there was an insurance issue with open source, and I've never seen, read, nor heard about any such thing. Sounds like hogwash to me . . . On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't know why ope

Re: [MBZ] OT fedora server

2012-04-23 Thread Ed Booher
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > picked up a dell 2650 with a fresh install of fedora. Anybody familiar > with this OS for a server? > > I am wondering if it has something like AD group policies similar to M$ > Server 2000/2003/2008. If so, I can learn

Re: [MBZ] OT fedora server

2012-04-23 Thread Walt Zarnoch
http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba4/HOWTO#Implementing_Group_Policies_.28GPO.29_in_a_Samba4_domain Hope that helps! Walt On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Ed Booher wrote: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>  picked up a dell 2650 with a fresh inst

Re: [MBZ] OT fedora server

2012-04-23 Thread David Bruckmann
There are a few GPO options for *nix, some better than others: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/24/group_policy_implementation/ On Apr 16, 2012 11:32 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > picked up a dell 2650 with a fresh install of fedora. Anybody familiar > with this OS for a

Re: [MBZ] OT fedora server

2012-04-24 Thread Dieselhead
Thanks Ed, and all. The consensus is to install the winders server or install it as a VM on a lightweight host.Now all I need is time to git'er done. The company closed, building was sold. New owner will be making similar product so some info on the existing computers might be useful, s

Re: [MBZ] OT fedora server

2012-04-24 Thread Dave Walton
Also consider using the free VMware Converter to create virtual machines for each of the running servers and workstations. You can run the free VMware player to boot them up to make sure they are working. I have had issues in the past converting domain controllers. They stop working after the

Re: [MBZ] OT fedora server

2012-04-24 Thread Dieselhead
No DCs in the existing setup. Just peer to peer Good info to know. Thanks Also consider using the free VMware Converter to create virtual machines for each of the running servers and workstations. You can run the free VMware player to boot them up to make sure they are working. I have h

Re: [MBZ] OT fedora server

2012-05-11 Thread Benz Hogs
It's rather easy to blank a Windoze password. I have a bootable USB thumb drive that I use for that Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '87 300SDL (325,xxx mi) On 4/23/2012 9:45 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Thanks Ed, and all. The consensus is to install the winders server or install it as a VM

Re: [MBZ] OT fedora server

2012-05-11 Thread Walt Zarnoch
If it can wait a day, I just use one of the many rainbow table services (loginrecovery free edition, etc) and get the original pass. Or I boot the NTHack floppy/cd and do some registry manipulation! :D Walt On May 11, 2012 9:31 AM, "Benz Hogs" wrote: > It's rather easy to blank a Windoze passwo