You are talking about the 15w40, it is not synthetic. The full synthetic is
5w40.
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> On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 10:32:42 -0500
> Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Well, according to Chevron:
>>
>> Delo 400 L
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 10:32:42 -0500
Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> Well, according to Chevron:
>
> Delo 400 LE SAE 15W-40 is formulated with ISOSYN
> ®
> Technology. ISOSYN Technology is a combination of
> premium base oils and high performance additives with
> Chevron's formulating expertise
> On February 9, 2016 at 10:05 PM clay via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>
> It gets really expensive to run the M1 for such low miles.
It depends.
Twice a year I buy two jugs for about $25-27 each, and get a $10-12 rebate on
each one.
That's not much money for 5 gallons a year.
Mitch.
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before.
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> On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 15:25:45 + (UTC)
Dangit!ThatsthesecondtimeI'vedonethatinasmanyweeks...-Curt
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On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 15:25:45 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
wrote:
> http://www.deloperformance.com/products/engine-oils.aspxsuggests the
> answer is no, the synthetics all say synthetic... -Curt
You ran the word suggests into the end of the URL. It should be
http://www.deloperformance.c
http://www.deloperformance.com/products/engine-oils.aspxsuggests the answer is
no, the synthetics all say synthetic...
-Curt
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On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 08:56:51 -0600
"Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote:
> It is full synthetic and is $19.99 a gallon at Wally World
>
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> > On F
Back to the original question, if one desires to use an MB-approved oil (or
any other fluid/grease/additive), here's the definitive source (MB):
http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/index.php?language_id=1
Rather clunky, you'll need to know exactly which sheet to look in, but the
info is there.
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"Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote:
> It is full synthetic and is $19.99 a gallon at Wally World
>
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> > On Feb 10, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
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> >
> > So can someone please clarify for me whether or not D
Huh? If you watch the sales you should be able to get M1 for between
$27 and $30 a gallon. Worst would be buying it in $10 quarts but
thats still only $40 a gallon.The cheap stuff has to be almost free
to get a difference of $30 per oil change and if its that cheap its
got to be crap.
-Curt
Well, according to Chevron:
Delo 400 LE SAE 15W-40 is formulated with ISOSYN
The prefix iso- means "equal to". So, the marketeers
are telling you that it's equal to synthetic. What more
could you want?
Delo has always been a very good conventional oil. I use
it in everything, diesel or not,
Yeah, their naming is very challenging...
You were right the first time though, we were talking about 15w40.
-Curt
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here. Internet lore suggests the cam failures here are from the
dealers putting in the wrong oil...
-Curt
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Th
whether or not Delo 400 LE 15W-40 is a synthetic or not?
Regular old Delo? It's not. I miss the $6/gallon days
when I bought 6-gallon cases at Costco. What with the 3-gallon
truck, and all those 2-gallon MB's...
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Hold on. Delo LE 5w-40 IS synthetic.
Max getting confused with the facts again
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Max
Charleston SC
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> That’s why I asked. I saw some discussions about this in another forum
> and was wonde
That’s why I asked. I saw some discussions about this in another forum and was
wondering, since I know there are a number of diesel folks that swear by Delo.
I thought it was regular dino oil, not synthetic.
confused Dan
> On Feb 10, 2016, at 10:32 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
Well, according to Chevron:
Delo 400 LE SAE 15W-40 is formulated with ISOSYN
®
Technology. ISOSYN Technology is a combination of
premium base oils and high performance additives with
Chevron's formulating expertise that "Rivals Synthetic
Performance" and provides su
perb diesel engine parts
protec
nthetic
oil to turn around and put conventional back in...
-Curt
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>Huh? If you
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The less expensive oil comes to $0.01 per mile driven, instead of $0.24 with
M1. That is around $30 between not M1 and
It is full synthetic and is $19.99 a gallon at Wally World
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> On Feb 10, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> So can someone please clarify for me whether or not Delo 400 LE 15W-40 is a
> synthetic or not? I always wondered, and there’s nothing in the na
So can someone please clarify for me whether or not Delo 400 LE 15W-40 is a
synthetic or not? I always wondered, and there’s nothing in the name that
would give it away as such. Based on the price I see it selling for, I’m
assuming it’s not, too.
Dan
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What does any of this have to do with the Continuing Crisis (aka politics)? Or
Guns?
Hard to believe...
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> I doubt that synthetic oil is any better most of the time.
Not true. Especially a group IV synthetic. The point of the
synthetic is the lack "junk". All the oil molecules are the
chosen ones - not just a majority like a typical dino oil.
> If you want to run higher miles be
ter 5w40 was critical...
> -Curt
>
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> I like M1 15-50 for the older cars and diesels
wn with each
>> subsequent oil change until it would stay normal through a 10,000 mile run.
>> The previous owner was kinda on the sketchy side...
>> -Curt
>>
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Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread
>So is the Delo synthetic best for engines like the OM603, or
>"regular" Delo 400 LE 15W-40?
>
>Aren't there some issues with the proper amount or lack of zinc in
>some of the synthetics?
>
>Dan
>
We need to co
If you only change the oil once a year you realize you'll be saving maybe $10 a
year right?
-Curt
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I have no
ZDDP only really matters in flat tappet engines.
AFAIK diesel oils are generally high ZDDP oils...
-Curt
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So is the Delo synthetic best for engines like the OM603, or
"regular" Delo 400 LE 15W-40?
Aren't there some issues with the proper amount or lack of zinc in
some of the synthetics?
Dan
We need to contact Larry our oil expert. He was having trouble with
his comcast email. I don't think
I think the zinc is a bigger issue for the older cars that used to run on
leaded, or diesels. The newer stuff probably does not need that formulation.
I seem to recall Marshall saying that the OM603 was not dependent on the older
formulations and the current (2004 era) oils were just fine. I
0. The 190Ds both got 5w40 since neither leaked terribly
>>> bad.When I lived in the apartment and had the 240D in the winter 5w40 was
>>> critical...
>>> -Curt
>>>
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the sketchy side...
> -Curt
>
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> It is coming out black, but getting lighter wi
I am thinking the stuff will stick to the metal bits longer than the dino oil
does. SL does not get out much, so having that initial lubrication is a must
at start up. The car had not been run much between 2002 and when I got her in
2012. Record showed she had service prior to that, but no ind
So is the Delo synthetic best for engines like the OM603, or “regular” Delo 400
LE 15W-40?
Aren’t there some issues with the proper amount or lack of zinc in some of the
synthetics?
Dan
> On Feb 9, 2016, at 8:12 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> I have used M1 15w-50 in my OM602 f
5w30 and the car has been consuming a quart in around
> 4,000 miles. Since I put in the 5w40 Valvoline stuff it seems to be slowing
> down.
> >> Theres a huge debate about 5w30 vs 5w40 in the BEW VWs, hotly
> contested...
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >> Fro
e...
-Curt
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The labeling has changed look over the past decade. It is being marketed as
light truck diesel oil. There
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It is coming out black, but getting lighter with each change. First change
resulted in near immediate change to diesel black on
-Curt
>>
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>>
>> I like M1 15-50 for the older cars and di
It is coming out black, but getting lighter with each change. First change
resulted in near immediate change to diesel black on the stick after ten miles.
Now it remains amber for far longer. Since I am only getting 2500 miles per
annum, I make sure if she goes out, she goes OUT! for a long d
oth got 5w40 since neither leaked terribly
>> bad.When I lived in the apartment and had the 240D in the winter 5w40 was
>> critical...
>> -Curt
>>
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leaked terribly
>> bad.When I lived in the apartment and had the 240D in the winter 5w40 was
>> critical...
>> -Curt
>>
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e one of
those places that has a nice waiting room with donuts, next time you're there
have one for me. ;)
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I used the M1 stuff in the OM606 in the E300D. It was the most current
recommended for the car in 2013. I had a few cases left on the shelf when I
had to sell the car. Waste not, want not.
clay
On Feb 9, 2016, at 2:34 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
> Yabbut Bob's is a 210 or 211, OM
On 09/02/2016 5:56 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
They pulled the CF certification some time ago because it "was obsolete" which
I think is BS. I used it even after they'd pulled the certification and the analysis came
back the same as it did before.
Have you had an analysis pulled on the
le. If the
answer is Wal-Mart that'd explain it.
-Curt
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That m1 15w50 is not diesel rated is it? The De
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On 09/02/2016 4:20 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
> I like M1 15-50 for the older cars and diesels. I am running it through
> Frosch for
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>
> I like M1 15-50 for the older cars and diesels. I am running it through
> Frosch for the past three years in an attempt to clear out 40 years of crud
> in the engine
On 09/02/2016 4:20 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
I like M1 15-50 for the older cars and diesels. I am running it through
Frosch for the past three years in an attempt to clear out 40 years of crud in
the engine. Just in case. Once it flows out clean during the annual change, I
figure I will
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I like M1 15-50 for the older cars and diesels. I am running it through Frosch
for the past three years in an attempt to clear o
Yabbut Bob's is a 210 or 211, OM 606. those take differ'nt oil than
the old engines.
I like M1 15-50 for the older cars and diesels. I am running it
through Frosch for the past three years in an attempt to clear out
40 years of crud in the engine. Just in case. Once it flows out
clean du
ate about 5w30 vs 5w40 in the BEW VWs, hotly contested...
>> -Curt
>>
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bruary 8, 2016 9:41 PM
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> It's a diesel, the 0w40 is the wrong oil.
>
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> > On Feb 8, 2016, at 8:15 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
at what temp.
-Curt
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It's a diesel, the 0w40 is the wrong oil.
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It's a diesel, the 0w40 is the wrong oil.
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> On Feb 8, 2016, at 8:15 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> I thought it'd use the M1 0w-40 European flavor?
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>> On February 8, 2016 6:36:12 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Stripl
I thought it'd use the M1 0w-40 European flavor?
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On February 8, 2016 6:36:12 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
wrote:
>For that car it has FSS so the most readily available oils will be M1
>turbo diesel truck or Chevron Delo 400le which is a
I was fairly certain my hell here required 5w40. It was 84 today already.
Ugh.
Bob R
On Feb 8, 2016 5:35 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> It's 5w40
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Feb 8, 2016, at 6:09 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
It's 5w40
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On Feb 8, 2016, at 6:09 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes
wrote:
>> For that car it has FSS so the most readily available oils will be M1 turbo
>> diesel truck or Chevron Delo 400le which is about $8 cheaper than M1 and
>> what I use.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
For that car it has FSS so the most readily available oils will be
M1 turbo diesel truck or Chevron Delo 400le which is about $8
cheaper than M1 and what I use.
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On Feb 8, 2016, at 5:30 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
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I have bought engine oil for only three diesel
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For that car it has FSS so the most readily available oils will be M1 turbo diesel truck or Chevron Delo 400le which is about $8 cheaper than M1 and what I use.
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On Feb 8, 2016, at 5:30 P
about 5w30 vs 5w40 in the BEW VWs, hotly contested...
-Curt
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For that car it has FSS s
For that car it has FSS so the most readily available oils will be M1 turbo
diesel truck or Chevron Delo 400le which is about $8 cheaper than M1 and what I
use.
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> On Feb 8, 2016, at 5:30 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> I have bought engine oil for only three die
I have bought engine oil for only three diesel engines: OM615, OM616, and
OM617.
Now I have an OM606. What is the correct engine oil?
Bob R
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