[MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread LarryT
Hi Tim - Thx but no thx - it sounds too complicated for no improvement in performance. You didn't mention if it would improve security but I doubt it,. You're right about the configuration - presently the Ext HD is shown as a drive in the desktop. And when on the desktop I see it like that

[MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-12 Thread MG
ll forget about playing. Manfred Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:47:36 -0400 From: "LarryT" Subject: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer Hi Tim - Thx but no thx - it sounds too complicated for no improvement in performance. You didn't mention if it would improve security

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I went back to XP on my new computer that came with Vista. AFter I got it installed there were a couple of things that did not work correctly. I simply noted what they were and went to the manufacturer or whatever hardware it was (sound, video etc) and downloaded the xp drivers there. Works

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-12 Thread MG
e: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:18:31 -0500 From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" Subject: Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer I went back to XP on my new computer that came with Vista. AFter I got it installed there were a couple of things that did not work correctly. I simply noted what t

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-12 Thread OK Don
Install a virtual machine system, run XP as a virtual machine -- drivers for XP become a non-issue. Vista is only used to host the Virtual Machine. http://www.vmware.com/products/ws/ $189 http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/default.mspx Free On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 4:

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
times makes it impossible for the drivers from the video or whatever chip manufacturers to work right. Still it's the only hope we have. Manfred Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:18:31 -0500 From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" Subject: Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer I went

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-13 Thread MG
Thanks Kaleb, My daughter will be working on it as soon as she gets the computer back. I put it into the mail to her last Sat. so she should be getting it very soon. Manfred Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 17:00:16 -0500 From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" Subject: Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-17 Thread LarryT
his is called a "Dual Boot System" and is very common. \ HTHs LarryT 91 300D - Original Message - From: "MG" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer If you do figure out ho

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-17 Thread Loren Faeth
nning. This is called a "Dual Boot System" and is very common. \ HTHs LarryT 91 300D - Original Message - From: "MG" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer If you do figure

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-17 Thread LarryT
Friday, April 17, 2009 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer A fully patched and updated xp copy takes something like 7.5.to 8 gb, so IMHO, it takes at least 10 GB for XP without a lot of software. In practical use, i consider 20gb to be the practical min drive si

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-17 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:22:10 -0500 Loren Faeth wrote: > A fully patched and updated xp copy takes something like 7.5.to 8 gb, > so IMHO, it takes at least 10 GB for XP without a lot of > software I don't believe it is wise to run unpatched MS software. In setting up recent XP systems at wo

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-17 Thread Loren Faeth
I agree that 20 Gb is a practical Min size for Windows OS. 7.6 GB for the install leaves less than 25% free space on a 10 gb partition, and is a ticking time bomb. There are clever ways to do minimalist installs, but that is another matter and not for the faint of heart. IN my experience, Ch

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-17 Thread MG
Thanks Larry, I'll forward this to my daughter as more options. Manfred Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:18:20 -0400 From: "LarryT" Subject: Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer There are a couple of ways. I've been fighting this for a while and think I have fou

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-17 Thread Jim Cathey
I don't believe it is wise to run unpatched MS software. I don't believe it is wise to run their _patched_ software, either. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/ar

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-17 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:49:44 -0700 Jim Cathey wrote: > > I don't believe it is wise to run unpatched MS software. > > I don't believe it is wise to run their _patched_ software, either. Which I why I run Linux. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-17 Thread OK Don
Which I wouldn't (and don't) run unpatched either. Patch everything! > > I don't believe it is wise to run unpatched MS software. > > > > I don't believe it is wise to run their _patched_ software, either. > > Which I why I run Linux. > > > -- > OK Don > Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos > KD5NRO > "T

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-22 Thread LarryT
e knows how to get a XP driver loaded. (fingers crossed) Will let ya'll know if it works -- Be persistant in complaining to Microsoft! LarryT - Original Message - From: "MG" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: [MBZ

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-22 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote: Doing the reverse will not work either - installing Vista 1st will work but then XP cannot be installed because the OS will say "the OS installed is newer than the OS being attempted to install! Well, damn! I'm running dual boot on dual hard drives. About one hour ago, I ordere

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-22 Thread Ed Booher
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > LarryT wrote: > > Doing the reverse will not work either - installing Vista 1st will work >> but then XP cannot be installed because the OS will say "the OS installed is >> newer than the OS being attempted to install! Well, damn! >> > > I'

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-22 Thread Ed Booher
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > I'm running dual boot on dual hard drives. About one hour ago, I ordered a > 1TB drive, intending to transfer my Vista drive to it, then to install XP > Pro as a 2nd OS on the drive. I'm not happy to learn that MSFT has > prohibited me from d

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-22 Thread LarryT
d that work? Thx - LarryT - Original Message - From: "Ed Booher" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Larr

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-22 Thread Curt Raymond
ely very common with *ahem* more budget conscious hardware... -Curt Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 12:27:46 -0400 From: "LarryT" Subject: Re: [MBZ] QRe:  Ext HDD, was RE:  OT -new computer To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <933ffa014ddf47db8651382db6cc8...@larrypc>

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-22 Thread Curt Raymond
ell's website for free no less. This is a very high end laptop though... It seems strange to me that I'm defending Microsoft but when you work for a manufacturer I guess you develop a level of empathy... -Curt Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 12:37:52 -0400 From: Mitch Haley Subject: Re: [M

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-22 Thread Curt Raymond
disk but their computer is tagged with an OEM serial... We have a site license (which is a purchaseable type serial) for XP and I've gotten caught a couple times with only OEM disks... -Curt Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:40:39 -0400 From: Ed Booher Subject: Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-22 Thread Ed Booher
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:15 PM, LarryT wrote: > Hi Ed - > I think I'd definately go the route of 2 physical hard drives if these > weren't a laptop. I already have several hard drives for laptops so if I > could do it this way using USB ext encl or HD docking station I would. > > Also - I s

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-22 Thread Douglas
I have a dual boot system that I first installed XP then Vista, followed with Windows 7. yes its easy with multiple hard drives though you should be able to create a partition with a program EaseUS partition manager its free for home use.. then install on the new partition. Then use the vista d

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-27 Thread LarryT
uot; To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer LarryT wrote: Doing the reverse will not work either - installing Vista 1st will work but then XP cannot be installed because the OS will say "

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-05-02 Thread LarryT
m: "OK Don" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer Install a virtual machine system, run XP as a virtual machine -- drivers for XP become a non-issue. Vista is only used to hos

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-05-02 Thread Luther
You should try Virtual Box www.virtualbox.org It will allow you to control what resources the guest OS uses and will allow file sharing between the guest (more than one at once) and the host OS. Luther LarryT wrote: Thank you Don!! I am installing XP on a virtual drive at this moment! It a

Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-05-02 Thread OK Don
The next version of virtual PC, that will come with (or shortly after) Windows 7 will allow applications running in a virtual machine to look like native apps on the host OS. Also known as Med-V in the MDOP set. FWIW, Windows 7 RC1 seems fast! Just installed it last night, no apps yet, so it's too