Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-10 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: The 4 is a185hp though which is staggering for the displacement. It's a 2.2, makes the same HP as a 1985 2.3-16 (euro) or a 1992 Olds Achieva SCX (2.3L Quad 4). I thought a 944 had staggering output in the 1990s, but IIRC it was a pretty big 4 cylinder. Mitc

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-08 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I was not trying to suggest our car was indicative of all Mazdas, just that this has been our experience based on where the car has been located. I've never looked at information on any of the Mazda forums regarding rust. I'll check it out. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Jan 8, 2015, at 10:11 AM

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-08 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yeah, if the AC dogged it down that would be a major problem. The AC is pretty much permanently on in her car...today would be one of the few exceptions. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Jan 8, 2015, at 11:57 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: > >> On 08/01/2015 7:31 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >> Sh

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-08 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
I think the 1.8 turbo VW Audi engine is phenomenal. I drove a friends old Audi A4 and it was really, really fast. No need for a six cylinder nowadays. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 8, 2015, at 11:57 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > >> On 08/01/2015 7:31 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wro

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-08 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 08/01/2015 7:31 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: She will ask specifically. I'll have to let her drive it, and if the performance is equal or better, she would probably go for it. She thrashes cars, so I might have some concerns about its longevity under such conditions. That being said

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-08 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
185HP ought to satisfy anybody. Our 450 SL (V8) had around 160 HP. My 200D has around 60HP, maybe, and it is surprisingly drivable. It will make it to freeway speed by the end of our (old, short) onramp. Not so the poor, pathetic 240D automatic we once had, which took a mile or so more to get

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-08 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
I'm not knowledgable on the Mazda makes, models, years but it has been my observation that Mazda 3 and 6 models made in the 2000s are quite rust prone. Perhaps less than three years salt exposure not enough? Perhaps your model year was not affected? This is just a general observation on my part.

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-08 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Just as a data point, our 2005 Mazda 6 spent almost three years in the Midwest, and was exposed to the typical snow, sand and road salt. Other than some superficial surface rust on the undercarriage, there is no evidence of rust on any of the body panels that I've seen. Dan Sent from my iPad

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-08 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
etty dammed fast. > Minimum for safety purposes? Thats the lamest thing I've ever heard. You > should get her a 240D and listen to her howl! Angie calls my Jetta "zippy" > and its only got 90hp. > -Curt > From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes > To: Mercedes List >

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-08 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
fast. Minimum for safety purposes? Thats the lamest thing I've ever heard. You should get her a 240D and listen to her howl! Angie calls my Jetta "zippy" and its only got 90hp. -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes To: Mercedes List Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2015 8:58 AM S

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-08 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
ularly spin their engines MUCH faster. > Explain that she's been brainwashed to want a v6... > > Or just don't buy a Mazda 6. :) > > -Curt > > From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes > To: Mercedes List > Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2015 8:31 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-08 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
#x27;t buy a Mazda 6. :) -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes To: Mercedes List Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2015 8:31 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles She will ask specifically.  I'll have to let her drive it, and if the performance is equal or better, she would probably

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-08 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
a185hp > though which is staggering for the displacement. Let her drive it, TELL her > its a 6cyl and she'll never know... > > -Curt > > From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes > To: Mercedes List > Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 7:51 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running O

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
: Dan Penoff via Mercedes To: Mercedes List Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles I would love for her to have a four cylinder model, but there's no way she would go for it. She's  absolute about having a six cylinder.  Lost that battle

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
ssage > From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes > Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 9:40 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Reply To: Dan Penoff > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles > >> Wifey's car is a 2005 Mazda 6 >Sport. > >> We will probably buy another

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-07 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎  Original Message   From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 9:40 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Dan Penoff Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles >Wifey's car is a 2005 Mazda 6 >Sport. >We will probably buy another >Mazda 6, as she likes

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Wifey's car is a 2005 Mazda 6 Sport. Has been relatively trouble and maintenance free since purchase, although at 137,000 it's beginning to get balky. Current issue is an oil leak at what appears to be the crank seal. Dealer says it's the oil pan, but I've traced the leak and it sure looks like

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-07 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I'd have a Korean car before a Toyota or Honda. You look at who fights recalls and who doesn't. Actually my top five favorite rental cars go from most favorite down:#1. Mazda 6 - would have been a 2004 or 2005, had it in Halifax, NS. Fun car in a fun place to drive#2. Hyundai Elantra - 2009ish

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-07 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I concur. I rented one of those things at BNA once, got to the end of the garage and the RF CV joint started clacking and screeching, the thing had 1400 miles on it. I turned around and took it back, told the kid the RF drive wheel was likely to fail any time, probably would not be a good id

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-07 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
appy little car. Close > runner up is the boring as sin Camry. I actually lost one in a parking lot. > Couldn't be bothered to remember what it looked like. > -Curt > From: Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes > To: "mercedes@okiebenz com" > Sent: Wednesday, Janu

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
n a parking lot. Couldn't be bothered to remember what it looked like. -Curt From: Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes To: "mercedes@okiebenz com" Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 3:32 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles I agree if you want to source cruise control

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-07 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
G: What they said; which is why I bought a Prius. An owner on a Prius list has a 2001 model. He has no problem getting parts. However, I'm keeping my two 123's since the prices keep going up. Karl Wittnebel wrote: > I agree if you want to source cruise control amplifiers nearby wherever you >

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-07 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
I agree if you want to source cruise control amplifiers nearby wherever you go then driving 30 year old iron seems oddly optimistic. Go buy a late model Camry, Accord or maybe a Hyundai. On Jan 5, 2015 10:01 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Nothing wrong with

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-05 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Nothing wrong with used Mercedes parts - just buy two at a time. On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The bottom line on running older vehicles, whether MB or not, is that you > cannot count on parts after about 10 years. > Sometimes it is

[MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-05 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
The bottom line on running older vehicles, whether MB or not, is that you cannot count on parts after about 10 years. Sometimes it is difficult to get parts for new vehicles too as there is little need and thus little production and no stock on hand. If you want to be certain you can get parts, t