Unfortunately, I'm from a state (NY) where you can be convicted of
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kill someone in your home and you had a path of escape (back door, etc.) or
if you kill an invader with a handgun & he only had a knife then you will be
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an interesting thing about the knife in a gunfight is a study that was
done
regarding the ability of police to respond to a knife wielding perp
chargi
Never had guns in the house, but a requirement for all
of us as kids was to take the NRA gun safety course,
which I thought was a good idea. I had my kids take
it as well. I believe the thinking behind having us
take the class as kids was to make us respect and
understand how to treat a firearm,
LWB250 wrote:
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> Never had guns in the house, but a requirement for all
> of us as kids was to take the NRA gun safety course,
> which I thought was a good idea. I had my kids take
> it as well.
It's far easier to gun proof your kids than it is to kid
proof the world. But just try to set up
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> Never had guns in the house, but a requirement for all
> of us as kids was to take the NRA gun safety course,
> which I thought was a good idea. I had my kids take
> it as well
Yeah, I never quite understood that, either.
While my Dad only had one gun in his whole life (a .22
revolver) he was a strong believer in education when
it came to guns. His attitude was that if you weren't
afraid of them you would be far less likely to hurt
someone or yourself with one.
I shot
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what if sombody is breaking in your house and you need to protect the
family, then what?
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I have an alarm system. And I'm not going to give in
to the bit about worrying about a home intrusion where
I live. It is almost unheard of.
If I lived in a rural area away from others, I would
definitely have a personal firearm or two in the
house. It's just not something I feel I would ever
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I have an alarm
Jeezus Kaleb, why don't you set up a guns/manly-manhood listserv for all
this excess testosterone?
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At the risk of being laughed at, I must again repeat my mantra that I spent
almost half of my five-plus decades in urban areas and have never found
myself in a situation where I'd have drawn a weapon if I'd have been
carrying one. Closest I've come to that was when I was being teased by a
street mi
99.9% of the time there is no need for that gun you may have on you or
in your house. Its that other .1% of the time
Wonko the Sane wrote:
> At the risk of being laughed at, I must again repeat my mantra that I spent
> almost half of my five-plus decades in urban areas and have never found
>
That is why it pays to pay attention to which decock lever you have
your finger on. One decocks the pistol, ...
On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 07:51:23PM -0500, Wonko the Sane wrote:
> Now, if you feel more secure with a 9 mm tucked into your pants, then I
> guess that is your right. Personally, I'd be m
earth and new guns to come,
peace with bullets and allies
Amen
Sorry, could not resist, Tom
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Kaleb special, if you are the 1000th visitor at my house you'll get a
bullet in the head and a great deal on used Mercedes parts :-D
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> 99.9% of the time there is no need for that gun you may have on you or
> in your house. Its that other .1% of the time
>
>
The keg is tapped ... please come single file to the communion rail and
honor the Flying Spaghetti Monster's memory.
:-)
D.
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> OK,
>
> our father who art in gunsmith 50.caliber be thy name,
> thy faithful m16 will get it done as will my m79 g
Don't tell my wife that - she likes handguns too.
Tom
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> Jeezus Kaleb, why don't you set up a guns/ma
It's actually more like 00.001% of the time - your odds aren't
very good for needing to protect your family in your home - probably
more likely to win the lottery.
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> 99.9% of the time there is no need for that gun you may have on you or
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:06:00 -0400, you wrote:
>Good addition to the discussion. I have never owned a gun, though mom and
>dad had a 22 rifle and pistol in the house and we had to take training on
>the rifle when I was a kid [they always thought the pistol was safely tucked
>away, but I used that
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Good addition to the discussion. I have never owned a gun, though mom and
dad had a 22 ri
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At the risk of being laughed at, I must again repeat my mantra that I spent
almost half of my five-plus decades in u
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:06:00 -0400, you wrote:
"Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Why not a 9mm that's so popular these days? Because a 9mm will not stop a
> drug crazed invader unless you hit a vital spot & in home defense, you don't
> have time to aim. You only have time to point & squeeze.
Which is why a shotgun is often touted a
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"Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Why not a 9mm that's so popular these days? Because a 9mm will not stop a
Retired Long Island detective told me a 12 gauge automatic with a pistol
grip and a short barrel was the best self defense weapon at close range.
Considering the way a 12 ga. kicks, I wonder about that pistol grip.
Gerry
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Retired Long Island detective told me a 12 gauge automatic with a pistol
grip and a short barrel was the best self defense weapon at close range.
Considering the way a 12 ga. kicks, I wonder about tha
get a 20 gauge. much easier to handle and kills em just as dead.
On 8/17/07, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Retired Long Island detective told me a 12 gauge automatic with a pistol
> grip and a short barrel was the best self defense weapon at close range.
> Considering the way a 12 ga. kic
Well, where is your handgun? Do you keep it under the pillow at
night?
"Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I can see myself trying to drag a shotgun out from under the bed as an
> intruder is entering my bedroom..
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> Retired Long Island detective told me a 12 gauge automatic with a pistol
> grip and a short barrel was the best self defense weapon at close range.
> Considering
I keep one there.
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Tom Hargrave wrote:
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> I can see myself trying to drag a shotgun out from under the bed as an
> intruder is entering my bedroom..
I can draw mine without leaving the bed. 6 shot pump, 18.5" barrel.
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This is getting a little OT (unless you don't want to shoot the mercedes
in the garage through the fireproof wall), but a .357 mag revolver can shoot
a .38 special round, and a .44 mag can shoot a .44 special round.
In addition, Glaser safety slugs (prefragmented bullets) work well in
revolvers wh
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Kevin wrote:
> If you're going to pull the trigger, make sure you know what's behind your
> target. It's surprising how this escapes a lot of people.
Especially those who know nothing about gun safety but what they
were required to learn for their jobs.
Cops trying to shoot snake kill 5 year ol
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> That's exactly why I chose the 45 ACP because it's a big,
t;
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> This is getting a little OT (unless you don't want to shoot the mercedes
> in the garage through the fireproof wa
"where you don't want to deal with overpenetration."
Freud is rolling over in his grave Laughing his butt off. I always knew
there was a connection between guns and ..
On 8/17/07, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> This is getting a little OT (unless you don't want to shoot the mercedes
>
I'm pretty sure it's an inverse relationship--compensation, if you will.
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> "where you don't want to deal with overpenetration."
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> Freud is rolling over in his grave Laughing his butt off. I always knew
> there was a connection between guns and
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> an interesting thing about the knife in a gunfight is a study that was
>
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> Gary,
>
> What you are eluding to in the knife verses handgun is reaction time.
> It's the same with knives, handguns, Tia Kwon Do a
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> Good addition to the discussion. I have never owned a gun, though mom and
> dad had a 22 rifle and pistol in the house an
about buying that.
>
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cops are not really that intelligent with guns, it seems. this story if
pretty near unbelievable given the number of alternative options available.
why not just beat the snake to death with your truncheon?
cops scare me. they often seem stupid and violent. and at the end of the
day, we learn,
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I will ask him, I really dont know anything about it. There is a big
gun show in tulsa this weekend, too bad I am broke. I need to go over
and buy some more guns and ammo.
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> you can get and i'm pretty
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>I will ask him, I really dont know anything about it. There is a big
> gun show in tulsa this
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> gun show in tulsa this weekend, too bad I am broke. I need to go over
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> cops are not really that intelligent with guns, it seems. this story if
> pretty near unbelievable given the number of alternative options
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It gets better, The local porcine patrol has run out of bullets.
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Your local mounties may have to resort to Paint Balls to subdue
criminals. They can no longer qualify on the AR-15 or upgrade the
the .45 colt from the little pea shooters.
Arm yourself with odd
According to my paintball playing teenager, frozen
paintballs are not only injurious, they could possibly
be lethal. The logistics of using a paintball gun
with frozen paintballs as a personal protection device
is questionable, however.
Dan
--- Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It gets bet
> Considering the way a 12 ga. kicks, I wonder about that pistol grip.
Not a problem at all. Lots of 'give' space when handheld
to soak up the momentum.
Easy analogy: have friend throw you baseball, catch in hand.
Compare to same throw 'caught' with shoulder.
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