Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2013-01-08 Thread Larry T
I had a laptop that did that. One of the connectors was bad -- ended up costing more to fix than it was worth. It would act like you said yours does - "click" and it was gone... no warning, no sound, no nothing - just Off. Since I assume you are working on a desktop you might have a connecto

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-26 Thread Scott Ritchey
M To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] hardware testing This computer has a hardware diagnostic tool that you can access at startup. Ran that, it tests memory, HDD, CMOS, system board etc. It passed every test except the SMART extended test on the HD. It past the short SMART test

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-26 Thread Benz Hogs
Download Ultimate Boot CD and use the vendor specific hard drive long test. If it passes, sounds like you might have an issue on the MoBo. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 "Max" (159,xxx mi) On 12/26/2012 9:29 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: This computer has a hardware diagnostic to

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-26 Thread OK Don
1) Bad connection between heat sink and processor/GPU/etc. > 2) Fan > 3) Fan controller > 4) Motherboard > 5) Power supply for fan > 6) Power supply in general > 7) Cat hair > 8) Roaches > *9) Gremlins* > > -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-26 Thread Tim C
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > If all the dust is cleaned out and the air flow is good, what would cause > it to run too hot if that turns out to be the issue? Its bone stock, not > overclocked or anything like that. 1) Bad connection between heat sink and processo

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-26 Thread Peter Frederick
Cracked solder under the ball grid array processor. Common problem with laptops. Heats up, connections open, computer quits. Usually accompanied by bizzare screen displays, but not always. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-26 Thread Brian Toscano
Since the person that had that problem left the company, and I re-imaged his computer, I'm not sure if the problem he reported was hardware or the software he had on it (or both). On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Brian Toscano wrote: > The last lenovo I needed serviced got a new motherboard and

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-26 Thread Brian Toscano
The last lenovo I needed serviced got a new motherboard and power button. For whatever reason, the power button had failed. I'm not even sure it needed a motherboard. The guy who had it complained his laptop would shut off and got hot. Oddly the fan was not what I would consider dusty, but it w

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If all the dust is cleaned out and the air flow is good, what would cause it to run too hot if that turns out to be the issue? Its bone stock, not overclocked or anything like that. On 12/26/2012 9:51 AM, Tim C wrote: On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Brian Toscano wrote: since you have 2 o

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-26 Thread Tim C
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Brian Toscano wrote: > since you have 2 of these you could try replacing parts from one to the > other, but the risk is that you'll end up damaging the good one. > personally i would just junk the one that doesn't work unless you have a > support contract. > Agr

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-26 Thread Brian Toscano
i have seen plenty of hard drives fail SMART tests but work completely fine. sometimes it is just a matter of what testing they support. i have not seen a bad hard drive make the computer shut off. i would be looking at failed/failing components such as motherboard and daughter cards including t

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
This computer has a hardware diagnostic tool that you can access at startup. Ran that, it tests memory, HDD, CMOS, system board etc. It passed every test except the SMART extended test on the HD. It past the short SMART test but not the extended, it also passed the surface scans. Hard drive

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-25 Thread Benz Hogs
Follow the steps on page 46 (written p38) of: http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/63y0640.pdf 1. Power off the computer, and then power it on again. 2. When the ThinkPad logo comes up, immediately press Enter key. The Rescue and Recovery workspace opens. 3. Click Launch adv

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-25 Thread Greg Fiorentino
edes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 8:11 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] hardware testing Bad battery charging circuit then. Don't know if it's a separate part like it is in a Mac or not, but if it is, it can be

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Tried that did not help. When up unplug the charger it shuts off immediately just as if power completely removed Sent from my iPhone On Dec 25, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Benz Hogs wrote: > Try a battery firmware update. See: > http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/X-Series-ThinkPad-Laptops/X100e-short-run-ti

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-25 Thread Benz Hogs
Try a battery firmware update. See: http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/X-Series-ThinkPad-Laptops/X100e-short-run-time-battery-won-t-completely-charge/ta-p/247381 Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 "Max" (159,xxx mi) On 12/25/2012 9:08 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I have pulled a fully cha

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-25 Thread Peter Frederick
Bad battery charging circuit then. Don't know if it's a separate part like it is in a Mac or not, but if it is, it can be easy or nearly impossible to change, depending on the design. On my old TiBook it was easy accessed by removing the bottom cover, on the 14" G4 replacement required rem

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have pulled a fully charged battery from another computer and put on it and it died also Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2012, at 11:32 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: > A bad battery, or more likely in a Powerbook or Macbook, a damaged DC in > board. Works fine on the charger, but will not char

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Greg Fiorentino
IME sometimes a bad battery can prevent a laptop from working properly. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 9:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Dieselhead
Bad battery. Seems to be a common problem with the chineeBMs X100e. While we are on the topic, I got another one of these, runs fine, but when you pull the charger it immediately turns off, it does not appear to be seeing the battery. Wonder what that could be? Sent from my iPhone

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Peter Frederick
A bad battery, or more likely in a Powerbook or Macbook, a damaged DC in board. Works fine on the charger, but will not charge the battery, so the battery is too low all the time to power the computer. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used pa

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I blew out th fan, it's turning and blowing good. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2012, at 10:10 PM, Russ Williams wrote: > When you boot up the lappy do you feel any air coming from the exhaust port? > If not then the fan is clog. > I replaced the fan in a HP lappy with the same processor a fe

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
reg >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. >>> Striplin >>> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 5:29 PM >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] hard

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
X100e. While we are on the topic, I got another one of these, runs fine, but when you pull the charger it immediately turns off, it does not appear to be seeing the battery. Wonder what that could be? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2012, at 9:36 PM, Benz Hogs wrote: > What model Lenovo is thi

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
f Kaleb C. > Striplin > Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 7:09 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] hardware testing > > What is the GPU? You talking about the processor? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 24, 2012, at 9:07 PM, "Greg Fiorentino"

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Russ Williams
When you boot up the lappy do you feel any air coming from the exhaust port? If not then the fan is clog. I replaced the fan in a HP lappy with the same processor a few weeks ago. Unit would power up then shut down after a min or two. Out came the canned air. Blew out the fan intake ans exhaust.

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Benz Hogs
al Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 5:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] hardware testing It's just got one 2 gig stick in there, I will pull one out of another computer and see wh

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Benz Hogs
2nd Ultimate Boot. It rocks. Kaleb, look for a hardware stress test program. I've used http://www.inquisitor.ru/about/ Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 "Max" (159,xxx mi) On 12/24/2012 5:20 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Download a copy of the Ultimate Boot CD. We use this at work all

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Benz Hogs
What model Lenovo is this? I might have some known good memory I could ship for a respectable price. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 "Max" (159,xxx mi) On 12/24/2012 7:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: It's just got one 2 gig stick in there, I will pull one out of another computer

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Dan Penoff
eb C. >> Striplin >> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 6:57 PM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] hardware testing >> >> These are x100e with amd processor. They are field rep computers that are >> carried around from car to car on a car

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Graphics Processing Unit...I guess some now have it all in the CPU? Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 7:09 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] hardware testing What

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
C. > Striplin > Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 6:57 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] hardware testing > > These are x100e with amd processor. They are field rep computers that are > carried around from car to car on a car lot > > Sent from m

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Greg Fiorentino
come out. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 6:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] hardware testing These are x100e with amd processor. They are field rep computers

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
entually on some models caused by MoBo flexing. This will show those > symptoms. > > Greg > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. > Striplin > Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 5:29 PM > To: Mercedes Di

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Greg Fiorentino
, December 24, 2012 5:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] hardware testing It's just got one 2 gig stick in there, I will pull one out of another computer and see what happens Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2012, at 6:17 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > If you were having temperature

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Greg Fiorentino
+1 on the de-oxit! -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 5:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] hardware testing Clean the socket/contacts with de-oxit while you're swpaing the m

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread OK Don
Clean the socket/contacts with de-oxit while you're swpaing the memory bad connection account for a LOT of computer hardware problems. On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > It's just got one 2 gig stick in there, I will pull one out of another > computer and see what h

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
It's just got one 2 gig stick in there, I will pull one out of another computer and see what happens Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2012, at 6:17 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > If you were having temperature problems they wouldn't show up like that. You > have a problem with memory, I'm betting. >

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Dan Penoff
I found it most helpful when I was working out in the schools and some kid would bugger up the admin account trying to get into the machine. It has a very good DOS based utility for resetting the default Admin account in Windows. Some of the hard drive utilities are a little dated, but still ha

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Fmiser
> > Kaleb wrote: > > > > Does anybody know of a program (prefer free) that will test > > all the hardware in a PC? Memory, MB etc? I got a laptop > > that will randomly shut off with no warning. Not sure if > > its a memory problem, getting too hot or something else. > Dan Penoff wrote: > Dow

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Dan Penoff
If you were having temperature problems they wouldn't show up like that. You have a problem with memory, I'm betting. I've said this before, but I was amazed when I started getting into servers and desktops more how many times faulty memory can cause problems Got any memory you can swap ou

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Craig
On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 17:33:35 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > I will check, or download a program to monitor it. What is a good temp > range? The lower the better. 50 deg.C is OK, 70 deg.C is not. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing times

2012-12-24 Thread Hendrik and fay
I have a widget that sits on the desktop that tells me how hard the CPU is working, as well as how much RAM is being used and if it goes into swap. Right now the CPU is sitting on 1% and goes to 6% as I type, RAM is at 34% and swap is 0%. My guess would be flaky motherboard, all the problems I h

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Dieselhead
Yes, thats what I am running, and it always shuts off before it finished. May swap ram and see what happens. That sounds like an indication to me! You might try reseating the mem or try other memory. Memtest is slow as molasses, and may take longer than the battery will last, but if the co

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Ok thanks will give it a shot Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2012, at 5:20 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > Download a copy of the Ultimate Boot CD. We use this at work all of the > time. Lots of good diagnostics on it. > > http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ > > Dan > > > On Dec 24, 2012, at 4:53 PM

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I will check, or download a program to monitor it. What is a good temp range? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Craig wrote: > On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 16:25:12 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin" > wrote: > >> Yes, thats what I am running, and it always shuts off before it >> finished. May

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Dan Penoff
Download a copy of the Ultimate Boot CD. We use this at work all of the time. Lots of good diagnostics on it. http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ Dan On Dec 24, 2012, at 4:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > Does anybody know of a program (prefer free) that will test all the hardware > in a PC?

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Craig
On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 16:25:12 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > Yes, thats what I am running, and it always shuts off before it > finished. May swap ram and see what happens. > > > > memtest will test memory > > > > the mfgr may have a diagnostic or at least a temp monitor > > available. Does

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Yes, thats what I am running, and it always shuts off before it finished. May swap ram and see what happens. On 12/24/2012 4:22 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Does anybody know of a program (prefer free) that will test all the hardware in a PC? Memory, MB etc? I got a laptop that will randomly shut of

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
. From: Kaleb C. Striplin To: Mercedes Discussion List ; Banned List Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 4:53 PM Subject: [MBZ] hardware testing Does anybody know of a program (prefer free) that will test all the hardware in a PC? Memory, MB etc? I got a laptop that

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Dieselhead
Does anybody know of a program (prefer free) that will test all the hardware in a PC? Memory, MB etc? I got a laptop that will randomly shut off with no warning. Not sure if its a memory problem, getting too hot or something else. memtest will test memory the mfgr may have a diagnostic or

Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Frederick Moir
Kaleb. Fuzz in the fan? Brand and type of laptop?   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. > > From: Kaleb C. Striplin >To: Mercedes Discussion List ; Banned List > >Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 4:53 PM >Subject: [MBZ] hardware testing >

[MBZ] hardware testing

2012-12-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Does anybody know of a program (prefer free) that will test all the hardware in a PC? Memory, MB etc? I got a laptop that will randomly shut off with no warning. Not sure if its a memory problem, getting too hot or something else. ___ http://www.okiebenz.