Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-29 Thread Chris Lane
@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping I've got a KD clicker that I've been using for a few years now that I really like. I think it was around $130 new on sale( rumor was at the time that they came out of the same factory as snap ons torque

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-29 Thread Rick Knoble
The other day I was at my mom's house, in the garage, and looked though some of my dad's old tools. I found a Proto micrometer style tourque wrench, but I know nothing about it beyond that. Is this a good brand? How can I check it to make sure its still good, what do I need to know. I

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-29 Thread OK Don
After using my Craftsman Digitork click type torque wrench yesterday, I saw as I was winding it back to zero, that the scale had slipped down to the point that I could not read the values. I bought this wrench in the late 70's, and had been thinking that I should get it calibrated someday. I took

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-28 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: Saw a Sears ad insert in today's paper, had some Craftsman bone wrenches for sale, that ad said Made in the USA. Surprised me. I thought all the Craftsman hand tools were USA products, but I haven't paid attention for ten years or so. 10-15 years ago, I could get very

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-28 Thread mykd1
: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping Which style? Dial, micrometer click, or split-beam? What brands? Snap-On, rmstrong, Precision Instruments, Craftsman, or others? I'm going to be doing the head on my SDL and I'd like to have a high quality /2 150-200 Newton-Meter torque wrench. Suggestions

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-28 Thread LarryT
Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Robert Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping I've got a KD clicker that I've been using

[MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-27 Thread Luther
Which style? Dial, micrometer click, or split-beam? What brands? Snap-On, Armstrong, Precision Instruments, Craftsman, or others? I'm going to be doing the head on my SDL and I'd like to have a high quality 1/2 150-200 Newton-Meter torque wrench. Suggestions, experience, and 2nd hand

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-27 Thread Peter Frederick
My brother has used his Snap-on click type for several decades. Quite reliable, easy to use, and rather pricey. You only need a cheapie for the SDL, though -- even torque to 35 ft/lbs, then tighten a quarter turn twice. Peter

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-27 Thread Luther
You're saying that nothing special is needed to torque a head down? Just a 1/2 Craftsman will do? I really liked the Armstrong's...they're a full lifetime warranty with 90 days on the calibration. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (271,xxx mi) needs head '83 300SD (246,645 mi)

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-27 Thread OK Don
I've read that the split beam is more accurate over the long term, and it seems likely to me. Both the split beam and the dial types require someone to be able to see the indicator directly to read it while applying torque.This has been an issue for me in some instances in the past. There is no

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-27 Thread Jim Cathey
Which style? Dial, micrometer click, or split-beam? I vote for beam. It's what I have. Treated nicely it will last forever and never go out of calibration. Merely slightly harder to use. For brands, whatever you can find is probably good. They're easy to test, just clamp a socket in a

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-27 Thread Rick Knoble
Which style? Dial, micrometer click, or split-beam? What brands? Snap-On, Armstrong, Precision Instruments, Craftsman, or others? Proto click torque wrenches have a good reputation. That is what I have. Harbor Freight tw are a cheap alternative, They appear to be Proto knock offs and are

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-27 Thread LarryT
/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping I've read that the split beam is more accurate over the long term, and it seems likely to me. Both

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-27 Thread Allan Streib
Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which style? Dial, micrometer click, or split-beam? What brands? Snap-On, Armstrong, Precision Instruments, Craftsman, or others? I'm going to be doing the head on my SDL and I'd like to have a high quality 1/2 150-200 Newton-Meter torque wrench.

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-27 Thread Mike Canfield
for anything automotive I have ever seen. Mike - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping You're saying that nothing special is needed to torque

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-27 Thread Mitch Haley
Mike Canfield wrote: 90 days? Is that because it is EXTREMELY precise or cheap in quality? If you want one to last your lifetime using it every day and have a fancy name go buy a Snap On. Really? I knew a guy who worked in a factory tool crib, calibrating torque wrenches was one of his

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-27 Thread Peter Frederick
The 603 uses stretch bolts. Buy new ones -- there are 17 of the, three different lengths. I believe the instructions with the head gasket I just did say torque to 15 ft/lbs, to 35 ft/lbs, then 90 degree turn, wait ten minutes, another 90 degrees. No torque figures for the 90 degree turns,

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-27 Thread LarryT
http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-27 Thread Mike Canfield
Interesting to hear. I wonder who actually makes the one Sears sells as a Craftsman Mike - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-27 Thread Luther
Split-beam technology is fairly new and mainly a combo of beam and clicker types. See http://tinyurl.com/2l39p8 for more info. I'm getting the idea that my $10 1/2 HF torque wrench that could be off by as much as 10% would be ok? Even if I torque it to 30 or 40 Foot/Lbs (instead of exactly

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-27 Thread E M
/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping Mike Canfield wrote: 90 days? Is that because it is EXTREMELY precise or cheap in quality

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-27 Thread John M McIntosh
On May 27, 2007, at 10:59 AM, E M wrote: Same thing here, more and more stuff from China. Sorry to say, but anything I've bought made in China is junk! Ed, that's not quite true, the issue is: You as the buyer have no ability to know if the item is good or not. Frankly it's the

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-27 Thread Rich Thomas
Saw a Sears ad insert in today's paper, had some Craftsman bone wrenches for sale, that ad said Made in the USA. Surprised me. --R E M wrote: Try it the next time and see just how hard it now is finding quality US made stuff.

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-27 Thread Kevin Kraly
You want to help the environment, buy quality stuff that lasts, or is rebuildable. This is why most of us drive these old, solid cars. As long as parts are still available for these old diesels, that's what I'll do. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula PS. There aren't too many

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-27 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
I've got a KD clicker that I've been using for a few years now that I really like. I think it was around $130 new on sale( rumor was at the time that they came out of the same factory as snap ons torque wrenches ). I have a craftsman electronic torque meter that attaches to a 1/2 socket, very

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-27 Thread E M
From my personal experiene, I have yet to buy anything with a Made in China lable that was of any value. there are three things I look for when shopping. #1 Made in America. Probably a good product, but if only equal in quality (which I have yet to see) but cost more, I'm still will to pay it

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-27 Thread E M
I read a great article in an old British mag once. The gov is always eager to have us turn in out old cars and buy new more fuel sipping cars. The article factored in the energy used to dig up the raw materials, or recycle the old materials, and the energy used to manufacture the new car.

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-27 Thread E M
If I had found any tools with Made in USA on them the last time I was in Sears, I would have put down my money for a whole set of 1/2 sockets and drivers. I had no such luck. Ed 300E On 27/05/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saw a Sears ad insert in today's paper, had some Craftsman

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-27 Thread Luther
http://www.armstrongtools.com/about/usa.jsp Add to that a lifetime warranty on their tools -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (271,xxx mi) needs head '83 300SD (246,645 mi) SOLD! '82 300CD (166 kmi) getting front end rebuild '82 300D (74 kmi) getting '85 donor engine-SOLD! '85

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-27 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 27 May 2007 12:28:00 -0500 Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Split-beam technology is fairly new and mainly a combo of beam and clicker types. See http://tinyurl.com/2l39p8 for more info. Or you could follow the links to toolsource and buy a dial torque wrench:

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-27 Thread E M
Had a quick look at their site, I like it. They will probably get some of my money in the not to distant future. :-) Thanks for the link. Ed 300E On 27/05/07, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.armstrongtools.com/about/usa.jsp Add to that a lifetime warranty on their tools --