Re: [MBZ] w124 rear springs

2019-12-23 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
On sls cars the sls valve adjust does the height. I just made the axle shafts about level on the bench and tightened everything down. It is hard enough to get it all tight on the bench; like 10 fasteners of varying sizes per side. Complete pain. It is about right once the sls is adjusted to

Re: [MBZ] w124 rear springs

2019-12-23 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
The rubber acts as a spring, if you clamp the links while they are hanging down the rear will sit high with the wheels "tucked in". Drives very poorly. Jack the wheel carrier to normal ride height before tightening. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] w124 rear springs

2019-12-23 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
it is so that in normal resting position, there is no torque on the rubber.  Normal running will then twist the rubber one way or the other.   If you tighten them down in full down position, the rubber is always torqued at rest, and overtorqued at full compression.   It is only at rest when

Re: [MBZ] w124 rear springs

2019-12-23 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
That is exactly correct.  It comes from every WSM I have owned.  They want the rubber to be in the driving position - I used to know the complete reasoning but it's lost in the Way Back Machine. Larry On 10/28/2019 2:00 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 07:30:19 -0400 Meade

Re: [MBZ] w124 rear springs

2019-10-28 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 07:30:19 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > Hmmm, I thought the torque of the control arm nuts and bolts was > supposed to be done with the car resting on all four wheels, in "ready > to drive" condition (nothing loaded but full fuel tank and all fluids > topped up,

Re: [MBZ] w124 rear springs

2019-10-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
yes.  all 10 links are to be loose until the weight of the car is on them.  then tighten.   most easily done if you have lotsa 2x8 - 2x12 blocks, or an alignment rack, etc.   Good catch! Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 10/28/19 6:30 AM: Hmmm, I thought the torque of the control arm nuts

Re: [MBZ] w124 rear springs

2019-10-28 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
That’s what I thought. I know they do on a 123 etc. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 27, 2019, at 10:17 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > I thought the rear springs would come out with the car up and the shock > unbolted. I know they do with 110 and 123, and I am pretty sure i've done

Re: [MBZ] w124 rear springs

2019-10-28 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
I checked it on the e420 and they were pretty flat. I think you just dont want to have them all the way down. On Mon, Oct 28, 2019, 4:31 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Hmmm, I thought the torque of the control arm nuts and bolts was supposed > to be done with the

Re: [MBZ] w124 rear springs

2019-10-28 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Hmmm, I thought the torque of the control arm nuts and bolts was supposed to be done with the car resting on all four wheels, in "ready to drive" condition (nothing loaded but full fuel tank and all fluids topped up, spare tire and tools in place). I think that the rear axles have just a slight

Re: [MBZ] w124 rear springs

2019-10-27 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Yeah, they came out fine. Getting them back in without a compressor is the question. One is supposed to torque all the bolts with the axles horizontal; this means all the bushings are holding the control arms up when the subframe is bolted back in. If you put the springs in before jacking the

[MBZ] w124 rear springs

2019-10-27 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Is it possible to get these back in without the compressor? I torqued everything with the subframe on the bench and there is no way I am doing that again, the control arm wont go down all the way even with my 100lb kid standing on the hub. I guess I am looking for a compressor tomorrow. On Sun,